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07-14-2007, 03:08 PM
largon

They should make an ES-playground subforum inside Intel section...
07-14-2007, 03:15 PM
Viss

Many conroe ES chips dont come close to later retail versions.
07-14-2007, 03:29 PM
Achill3uS

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07-14-2007, 04:17 PM
Start

So if we are seeing around 3.9Ghz ES. So would 3.2-3.4 retail box be a reasonable estimate?
07-14-2007, 04:49 PM
The Nemesis

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Originally Posted by SP33DFR34K

So if we are seeing around 3.9Ghz ES. So would 3.2-3.4 retail box be a reasonable estimate?

I'm thinking 3.5-3.6Ghz 1.35v @ load prime stable & 3.8-4Ghz OCCT & 3DMark benchable. Kinda like the early "B"s were. Again cooling will play a big part once you heat up 4 cores. People posting results should specifiy if its an open bench or installed in a case. That info would help too.
07-14-2007, 05:24 PM
xgman

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Originally Posted by SP33DFR34K

So if we are seeing around 3.9Ghz ES. So would 3.2-3.4 retail box be a reasonable estimate?

I'm not sure that this is a fair assumption. All ES's are not created equal and all package units are not created equal. ES units are usually held to more scrutiny by more advanced users that may be able to get more out of any chip than some others and I have heard of some ES duds along the way. It may very well be that there is a higher likelyhood of getting a better chip if it's an ES, but that's probabaly about it. I think stepping is probabaly way more important in general. All that asside, I did pay top dollar to get my QX6850 es, but I still fell like the ES part of it is not that important.
07-14-2007, 05:44 PM
dinos22

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Originally Posted by SP33DFR34K

So if we are seeing around 3.9Ghz ES. So would 3.2-3.4 retail box be a reasonable estimate?

as far as my source is concerned they should all be on par but i have my doubts as well

but i see no reason why at least first batches shouldn't do 3.6GHz for normal use
07-14-2007, 10:46 PM
Jacky

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Originally Posted by SP33DFR34K

So if we are seeing around 3.9Ghz ES. So would 3.2-3.4 retail box be a reasonable estimate?

omg ES is no SUPER hardware, they may be cherry picked... but the final silicon will do better! and worse! the main question is, will it do AS GOOD on AVERAGE? (we hope so..) but there will be "golden chips" for sure, which will clock even higher and those chips that don't clock as well..

the only possible way would be Intel changing the (final) silicon for better yields, but lower overclock (why do you need stable 4ghz chips if you can't release them because you are power constrained..)
07-15-2007, 04:22 AM
dinos22

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Originally Posted by Jacky

omg ES is no SUPER hardware, they may be cherry picked... but the final silicon will do better! and worse! the main question is, will it do AS GOOD on AVERAGE? (we hope so..) but there will be "golden chips" for sure, which will clock even higher and those chips that don't clock as well..

the only possible way would be Intel changing the (final) silicon for better yields, but lower overclock (why do you need stable 4ghz chips if you can't release them because you are power constrained..)

you are right there

consider this guys all the ES chips (well most of them) in conroe were week 17 '06 and the REALLY good ones did 3.6GHz with 1.37V>>>>>>>>> now take my E6700 CPU which is week 26 '06 and the fact it does 3.6GHz with 1.31 and absolutely beats the :banana::banana::banana::banana: out of ES CPUs in overclocking........wow the conspiracy :p: :D
07-15-2007, 04:31 AM
erwinz

hehehe... only 7 days to from where I live for intel price cut.. :)
07-15-2007, 03:46 PM
Luis_GT

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Originally Posted by dinos22

you are right there

consider this guys all the ES chips (well most of them) in conroe were week 17 '06 and the REALLY good ones did 3.6GHz with 1.37V>>>>>>>>> now take my E6700 CPU which is week 26 '06 and the fact it does 3.6GHz with 1.31 and absolutely beats the :banana::banana::banana::banana: out of ES CPUs in overclocking........wow the conspiracy :p: :D

lucky... My QX is doing 3.6 with 1.42v load, 1.46-1.47 idle (1.52v bios)

So far 1hour and a half of prime.... 72C load with water cooling :eek:
07-15-2007, 05:45 PM
nealh

I have been watching ES chip reports like everyone and I firmly beleive most are so cherry picked to build the enthusiasm....it does seem that often the early released retail chips do well and then there general seems to be period of time where the batches seem to overclock less well and then we see the silicon get better and overclock well again

Unless Intel or AMD are ramping up for a new chip or something often the later chips do well....The recent e6600 C2D seem to be the exception(the theory seems to be the better cores we used for the Q6600) I got 2 that were true duds...one needed 1.5v to get 3200 and another need 1.5-1.55v for 3400 to be stable for 8hrs of prime95:(

I take all these early reports with a grain of sand..I do expect the early G0 to do well but then I expect in things to drop off a bit.....

But I also would not be surprised to see the G0 at retail to be perform just "OK"
07-15-2007, 06:09 PM
MacClipper

heheh, bait and switch conspiracy theory neal? Flood great ES and early retail chips and then hit them between the eyes with strictly speed binned parts later.

Pow!

I leapt cos I couldn't wait, having sold off my 2 x E6300s a little earlier. :)
07-15-2007, 06:25 PM
ChaosMinionX

I did the $5 TankGuys G0 preorder.... heres hoping I get a nice chip, if not oh well :)
07-15-2007, 06:34 PM
erwinz

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Originally Posted by largon

They should make an ES-playground subforum inside Intel section...

hope we have ES subforum.. :)
07-15-2007, 06:41 PM
dogsx2

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Originally Posted by loc.o

Many conroe ES chips dont come close to later retail versions.

Yes, I think there were 2. :(

The average oc of ES vs retail would be interesting to know.:D
07-16-2007, 03:00 AM
Pt1t

Q6600 Watercooled :p

http://www.pt1t.net/2900XT/Q6600_3d2k6_4100_860mhz.PNG
07-16-2007, 03:07 AM
adamsleath

it looks like the heat is under control with g0...even with 4 cores.
07-16-2007, 03:16 AM
dinos22

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Originally Posted by Pt1t

Q6600 Watercooled :p

http://www.pt1t.net/2900XT/Q6600_3d2k6_4100_860mhz.PNG

:shocked: i want your CPU pls :D
07-16-2007, 03:20 AM
erwinz

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Originally Posted by Pt1t

Q6600 Watercooled :p

http://www.pt1t.net/2900XT/Q6600_3d2k6_4100_860mhz.PNG

you have so nice cpu.. :) what happen to your xeon 3060?? i'm interested with it.. :D
07-16-2007, 10:52 AM
askimo

Q6600

Sorry if this sounds stupid, but how can you tell if the Q6600 is the G0 version?
07-16-2007, 11:46 AM
Pt1t

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Originally Posted by erwinz

you have so nice cpu.. :) what happen to your xeon 3060?? i'm interested with it.. :D

I sold it :p , after that i had E6700 , 2160 , 440 , E6750 , Q6600 , And For the end of this Week , E6850 and E4500 :rolleyes:
07-16-2007, 02:56 PM
dinos22

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Originally Posted by askimo

Sorry if this sounds stupid, but how can you tell if the Q6600 is the G0 version?

stepping will be
SLACR i think (on CPU IHS)
A in the middle is important and denotes G0
07-16-2007, 03:09 PM
Brother Esau

Hell I would be totally satisfied with even 3.2ghz with really good temps for a quad core chip.
07-16-2007, 03:52 PM
askimo

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Originally Posted by dinos22

stepping will be
SLACR i think (on CPU IHS)
A in the middle is important and denotes G0

Thanks dinos

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