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Originally Posted by bt_medic04
Actually, Diesel engines put out more power per amount of space then a gasoline engine. So with the same size/weight engine, you could go fast, and get their fast:cool:
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Originally Posted by bt_medic04
Actually, Diesel engines put out more power per amount of space then a gasoline engine. So with the same size/weight engine, you could go fast, and get their fast:cool:
yeah but were talking about DDR3 @ 800mhz with cas 7. heck lets even look at DDR3 1000 cas 7. theres DDR2 that does those speeds with lower cas latencies. there will be a slight performance hit until the speeds start to scale. like i said, im not impressed with it yet, however once the speeds start getting ramped up then its not problem (hence why i left out DDR3 1333 since DDR2 cant run that without high timings or lots of voltages)
i have heard there will be a bearlake variant that supports ddr2....it was in an article i read a few days ago...this would be good i think at first as ddr2 is so prevalent now.
The thing you miss here is that DDR2 1000 doesn't equal DDR3 1000. DDR2 1000 is 500MHz base, 1000MHz effective. Based on what nn is saying, DDR3 is 1000 base, 2GHz Effective.
2000/7 is better than 1000/4, right?
ah well thats what i wasnt getting. i was reading it as DDR3 1000 was actually running at 500mhz x 2 and not at an actual 1000mhz :oops:
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Originally Posted by bt_medic04
DDR3 800 with cas 7 == 1600 my friend which no DDR2 can do now at any timings
DDR31000 == 2000 whihc no ddr2 can dream about
You can't expect new technology to immediately outpace settled and mature technology. Remember when DDR2 was first coming out and having trouble running above DDR2-533 with decent timings? Look where we are now with D9 modules capable of doing DDR2-1300 with the same timings those old DDR2-533 sticks had (5-5-5-15). Give DDR3 time to mature and let the manufacturers start producing higher quality ICs and we will easily see DDR3 outstrip even the highest binned GKX that's leave the factories now. I don't think we will see the problems that DDR2 had with it offering less performance for a higher price than DDR2, DDR3 should kick the crap out of DDR2 once there is a market for it. Now I can't wait for the day when my memory is running faster than my processor.. *drool*
No, DDR2-1000 = 500MHz = DDR3-1000Quote:
Originally Posted by Tulatin
Wrong again, DDR3-800 = 400MHz.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaFrOuT
DDR3-1000 = 500MHzYou read it right.Quote:
Originally Posted by bt_medic04
oh wait.. thats just like the other two DDR's. People dont seem to understand that DDR means double data rate.. simple..Quote:
Originally Posted by largon
no DDR2-1000 = 500mhzQuote:
Originally Posted by largon
while
DDR3 will start @ 1600 which means 800mhz which is much faster than any current ddr2 in the market now
I guess it's difficult for some people to see the frequency advantage of DDR3 because we're is used to DDR2 OC'ed to DDR1000+. The point is these first few specs are the "extreme-low-end" of what DDR3 can do.
DDR1 launched at 100MHz (DDR200), max OCs topped at ~350MHz (DDR700)
= max OC @ 3½ times the launch freq
@ 256Mbits/IC
DDR2 launched at 200MHz (DDR300), max OCs topped at ~700MHz (DDR1400)
= max OC @ 3½ times the launch freq
@ 512Mbits/IC
DDR3 will launch at 400MHz (DDR800)
3½ times the launch freq would be :nuts: 1400MHz (DDR2800):nuts:
@ 1Gbits/IC :slobber:
Isn't that exactly what I posted?Quote:
Originally Posted by SaFrOuT
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DDR3 will start @ 1600 which means 800mhz which is much faster than any current ddr2 in the market now
No.
Bottom of the barrel DDR3 are rated for 2.5ns' = 400MHz (DDR800).
wonder what the latency is for low level DDR3, it would be cool if it beats DDR2 right out of the gate, though i doubt it will./
this sucks:slapass: :slapass:Quote:
i just got info from supertalent that DDR3 motherboard will start shipping in mid 2007, that DDR3 wont be pin compatible with DDR2.
expect a 5-15% advantage in latencyQuote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
What about the prices per GB of base RAM at launch vs. high-end overclockable RAM at maturity?Quote:
Originally Posted by largon
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Originally Posted by nn_step
over what? 600mhz DDR2 4-4-4? :p: Thats what im hopiing for. :D
DDR2 at the same timings and the same clock speedQuote:
Originally Posted by Revv23