I got mine from NEWEGG as well.
I got mine from NEWEGG as well.
I got 2x ST3320620AS and i cant hear them.. i guess u had a bad one :)
Its even set on performance mode...
they have modes?
Just received my 7200.10 320gig from newegg on monday, and I've definately got the Loud, Clicking model. VERY noticable during seek operations.
That sucks, sorry man. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Prelector
But do you think it is worth buying these drives if you might have to send them back for maybe a better one? :confused:
same as prelector - it's quiet at idle, but clciks LOUD when working
Doing some reading over at storagereview.com, and the general thinking over there is this:
There's 2 different motors. This difference might contribute to a higher pitched whine at high rpms, sustained transfers.
There's 2 different MODE settings on drives being shipped out from Seagate. Seagate sets OEM drives to Performance Mode (bit faster, loud clicking on seek). Quiet Mode is set for Retail distribution (bit slower, no clicking on seek). This makes sense to me, and might go a long way to explaining the differences. BTW, OEM and Retail don't seem to necessarily reflect the packaging, but instead refer to who Seagate manufactured a particular production run for primarily.
Here's the rub: Seagate hasn't seen fit to enable AAM on the 7200.10 drives, so there's NO WAY to change modes on these. Basically, you either take performance or silence.
Also, reports are starting to trickle in that the clicking "MIGHT" be alleviated over time/use. Either the bearings are "settling", or people are just getting used to the noise :P
Based on my previous post, and the thoughts some people are leaning towards, not sure there really is a "better" one. This 7200.10 seems to be the performance KING among the non-raptor drives, so might just be something you have to live with. I'll be keeping my current drive, and hoping that I see that reduction in clicking noise over time that some have reported...Quote:
Originally Posted by Knight
If I were to do it again today, knowing what I do now... I'd probably take a chance, and try to find myself a retail packaging drive, hoping it was more likely to be the "Quiet Mode" (despite what I said above :P)
What's AAM ??
What's the performance difference between the 2 modes?
PS: is there a serial on the retail box of a drive?
AAM = Automatic Acoustic Management. It's the API interface to allow firmware function change on the drive. Without this, you can't change the base way the drive operates.Quote:
Originally Posted by KoHaN69
Basically, from what I understand (I'm by no means an expert on this stuff), the Performance mode says "Operate at 100% of possible", running the motor and seek heads to maximum, to allow the reading of data at it's fastest possible rate. This causes increased noise though, as these parts are moving faster (Like reving your engine). Quiet mode says "Operate at 85% of possible", giving almost as good performance, but giving up that last little bit to reduce system noise.
There might be a serial, I'm not sure. I purchased an OEM version of the drive.
Ok, what about the pins for the Sata1/sata3 switch? does that make a difference in noise?
the sata1/sata3 switch is on 2 pins, there are 4 pins, what if a jumper is put on those? :?
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Warning: Hardware ECC Recovered :confused:
The better one is the one manufactured in china.
This may be a little off topic but I bought 2 of these drives and so far so good, my friend also bought one and everything was fine until yesterday he mysteriously started loosing massive amounts of space a gig every minute. He virus scans and is up to date, same with malware and such. He checked to see if something was using up that space but found nothing, be it huge files or tons of tiny ones. From what we can tell it decided to start giving itself multiple partitions. I am not sure if this is the drive at fault but I did think it may be a good thing to warn others about.
twll him to run seatoolsQuote:
Originally Posted by Teratism
it definitely seems to be the performance king under raptors, and i love my four drives, but i'm not ok with the possibility that my drives are operating at 85% of what they could be. i should not have to sacrifice silence for performance and i'm not sure if this is particular to seagate drives, or all manufacturers or maybe just the 7200.10'sQuote:
Originally Posted by Prelector
i've owned a DiamondMax10 for 2 years now and i haven't seen a thread like this regarding those drives. they seem to offer everything you'd expect from a decent hard drive; great performance, good average read and burst speeds, low noise levels and reliability. one thing i will say on reliability, the DM10 did die once when migrating to a new case and i had to RMA it. but as a testament to Maxtor, they shipped the replacement drive to me BEFORE they received my RMA for a charge of $1 for insurance, and this refurbished replacement has been going strong for over a year now (300GB, sata2 model). i'm very impressed with Maxtor's service and reliability and as long as they continue this kind of support and quality, i'd be glad to purchase another Maxtor drive.
considering Maxtor was purchased by Seagate, i'm hoping that the quality does not decline, although i'm surprised at this sort of poor quality from Seagate as they are known for quality products in the past.
if anyone knows of a similar issue on other hard drives from Seagate, or from any manufacturer, please link the threads here so we can see if this "performance throttling" is real, and if it is common among manufacturers; also if anyone knows of any common threads involving the inconsistency in parts quality between drives manufactured in multiple locations, that information would be greatly helpful also.
it would be nice to know who to blame for bad quality or if just all manufacturers do this occassionally... and what is the actual issue, perf throttling or bad motors?
well moonlightcheese, Maxtors are generally pieces of shiet and Seagate is imrpoving the quality.
I think that any current problems are due in part to this migration, not Seagate's original quality
my experiences say the exact opposite, regardless of what's posted all over this forum. i've owned plenty of hard drives and haven't had many issues with Maxtor. i thought i'd give seagate a try, but then i see this thread. i've got a 7200.9 160GB sata1 and these four sata2 320GB 7200.10's and no complaints, so i'd do seagate again. and i can't complain, i love these drives, but the idea of sacrificing 15% of my performance for silence (if that is the case) is not acceptable. never heard anything of the kind from maxtor, and maxtor's service, rma and reliability have been top-notch for me. maybe i'm lucky but maybe you're wrong. who knows. but based on past experiences, i will continue to buy maxtor drives in the future.Quote:
Originally Posted by KoHaN69
Well, all future Maxtors WILL be seagates :)
IN fact, some people who bought the 300gb maxtor were lucky enoguh to open the box and find a seagate 320gb (even with seagate sticker)
I don't think this thread specifies there is a problem, and I don't believe that the 15% performance claim is official at all.
In fact, I think I'll call SeaGate tomorrow and discuss this :)
Regarding good Maxtor experience: at least the Diamondmax9 were very sensitive to power fluctuations. If you always had stable power it's no wonder you didn't have problems yet. Oh and don't get me started on their inane RMA process.
I have to admit I'm not happy with Seagate's performance but since I think Maxtors are junk, WD always screws up the firmware, my Hitachi is loud and lame then what do I do? With Seagate at least I get to keep my data and a silent office (except for occasional shouts "hurry up you *&#^*#&*#!" :)).
Newer batches of 7200.10 should sport new motor (can be identified with a pink gum sticked on the hub)
I ordered 2 and got both newer ones :D, minimal vibrations and quiet even when seeking/reading.
I think ot's all luck of the draw really. I had and still have 2 7200.7 Seagate NCQ 160gb drives, 1 was as silent as a church mouse the other would emit random what I can only describe as 'cheeping' or 'chirping' noises. Sent an email to Seagate, their response this is normal, my response was how can it be I have 2 exactly the same and only 1 of them does this. They advised to RMA it but I couldn't be bothered. Anyway 6 months down the road the 'chirping' drive died on me so maybe no the same problem as others but an early indication that things weren't right. The replacement drive Seagate sent through didn't even work but the second replacement worked fine and is silent. :)
Not to wake the dead on this topic. But I have ST3250620AS model with 2 chips blown on the PCB. I am looking for someone/anyone to post a very high quality image of the PCB showing the values on the chips. The images posted in this thread are apparently an older version of the PCB layout....as mine is a bit different.