brisbane dual core 65nm

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Originally Posted by pawl

hmmm. cant see the krudfather being launched with the older slow core and this brisbane being the new fast core. brisbane is a dumb die shrink with limitted oc potential.

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Same could be said about 90nm, however they on average overclock better (almost a full 400-600Mhz better than 130nm) then what they replace. While using less power.

I have a feeling that the 65 nm Amd Brisbane will have an improved memory controller;)

humbug memory controller. we want the new improved IPC core. they can keep the memory controller. all the whisper and inuendo about better things to come soon etc - its all rubbish.

amd had to be absolutley desperate to be desperate to break the numbering system and allow the operton socket 1207 to work to unregisterd ram. now every cheap server vendor is going to be squeazing them to let the opteron server cpus run with elcheapo ram.

and im guessing that they needed all those pins to supply the power to that hungry beast. its the new SUV of cpus.

the are running on empty. no gas.

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Originally Posted by pawl

humbug memory controller. we want the new improved IPC core. they can keep the memory controller. all the whisper and inuendo about better things to come soon etc - its all rubbish.

amd had to be absolutley desperate to be desperate to break the numbering system and allow the operton socket 1207 to work to unregisterd ram. now every cheap server vendor is going to be squeazing them to let the opteron server cpus run with elcheapo ram.

and im guessing that they needed all those pins to supply the power to that hungry beast. its the new SUV of cpus.

the are running on empty. no gas.

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9/10 performance problems come from not enough work being ready to be processed.
Not the lack of processing power

Thats k8l The improved ipc;=)

The big thing for Amd Brisbane is
1.Improved Memory controller<---Very likely, but i cant guarantine it
2.Lower power Usage:toast:
3.And higher clocks, althought the first one may clock bad . This will depend on how mature Amd 65 nm production is. Noone knows, but my guess is that Amd have had time to mature their 65nm node.

In a few days we will know:toast:

umm, i think we can drop the intel-dubbed "K8L" and use AMD's name, K10

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Originally Posted by The Ghost

the memory controller on all K8l cpu's support both ddr2 and ddr3 mempry

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So there will not be AM3 CPUs (DDR3 only).

im crossing my fingers that its more powerful than intel.. because i've always had an AMD in my computer.. and i <3 the underdog...


but then again I <3 the best.

I wonder how the market will look in February....

K8L is native quad core like Intels QX6700 right?

QX6700 has two Conroe chips sharing the FSB.

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Originally Posted by brentpresley

AMD's name is Rev. H, not K10.

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"K8L" is Greyhound/Deerhound, now renamed to certain stars

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Originally Posted by WeStSiDePLaYa

i await brisbane, and hope to see some core enhancements.

also, whats the difference between kuma and rana?

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from looking at the original post, it seems as if Kuma is multi-core, and Rana is single core?

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Originally Posted by doompc

AM2 CPUs will work on AM2+ boards too.
AM2+ CPUs will work on AM2, AM2+ and AM3 boards.
AM3 CPUs will only work in AM3 boards (DDR3 mem controller only).

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AM2+ is the name for the socket, not a kind of CPUs.

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Originally Posted by doompc

So there will not be AM3 CPUs (DDR3 only).

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AM2 CPU supports DDR2
AM3 CPU supports DDR2 and DDR3

Socket AM2 mobos use DDR2
Socket AM2+ mobos use DDR2 and have HT3.0
Socket AM3 mobos use DDR3

AM2 CPUs works on socket AM2 and AM2+ mobos
AM3 CPUs works on socket AM2+ and AM3 mobos (using DDR2 or DDR3, respectively)

Easy as that! :p:
(if there's some error tell me, but I think it's correct)

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Originally Posted by Piotrsama

AM2+ is the name for the socket, not a kind of CPUs.

AM2 CPU supports DDR2
AM3 CPU supports DDR2 and DDR3

Socket AM2 mobos use DDR2
Socket AM2+ mobos use DDR2 and have HT3.0
Socket AM3 mobos use DDR3 and have HT3.0

AM2 CPUs works on socket AM2 and AM2+ mobos
AM3 CPUs works on socket AM2+ and AM3 mobos (using DDR2 or DDR3, respectively)

Easy as that! :p:
(if there's some error tell me, but I think it's correct)

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from what I've heard, that looks right. AM2+ is just a bridge between AM2 and AM3. Nothing more than HT3.0 for socket AM2...?

I gess the QX6700 is not much different than 4X4, other than the cores are physically connected. Should be intersting to see how much performance gains there are from 4X4 to Rev. H. That will be a while though.

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Originally Posted by Piotrsama

AM2+ is the name for the socket, not a kind of CPUs.

AM2 CPU supports DDR2
AM3 CPU supports DDR2 and DDR3

Socket AM2 mobos use DDR2
Socket AM2+ mobos use DDR2 and have HT3.0
Socket AM3 mobos use DDR3

AM2 CPUs works on socket AM2 and AM2+ mobos
AM3 CPUs works on socket AM2+ and AM3 mobos (using DDR2 or DDR3, respectively)

Easy as that! :p:
(if there's some error tell me, but I think it's correct)

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Since the Hyper Transport 3.0 is backward-compatible AM3 CPUs will work on present day AM2 boards.

According to the first CPU-Z shot of the Brisbane core, it's running at 1.3V stock. Pretty high for a 65nm part.

Linky

It may also be a cpu-z error
We will know tommorow if this is true or not

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Originally Posted by Teroedni

It may also be a cpu-z error
We will know tommorow if this is true or not

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There have been rumors about initial 65nm parts needing higher voltage than expected. Let's hope it isn't true.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=125497

there is a link right in this forum :)

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Originally Posted by The Ghost

now do you have any links that says that the K8l cpu will not work in K8 am2 socket?

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This is good enough for you ?

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/115...uadcorexb6.jpg

Looks like gossip wins this time ... ;)

Sounds like someone forgot than Socket M2+ is 100% compatible with Socket M2 as the only features that it adds is Hyper Transport 3 (Probabily useless, everyone knows than Chipset communications doesn't even comes close to sature the current Bandwidth than Hyper Transport gives) and split power planets for running less used parts of the Cores at lower Voltage to save power consumption independently from the rest.

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Originally Posted by zir_blazer

Sounds like someone forgot than Socket M2+ is 100% compatible with Socket M2 as the only features that it adds is Hyper Transport 3

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and a few other things, but yes, an am2+ cpu will work in an am2 board. why bother with the +? i dunno.

I guess one more reason to just sit back and watch AM2. It's gonna get left behind just like 939 did. If I invest it will be AM3 as core speeds from AMD will not exceed much if any beyond 3ghz before AM3 arrives.