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Bah you obivously have never used Raptors in RAID0. Next please.Quote:
Originally Posted by [TAG]Imp
This is what Iraqi bob says from the folks on anand:
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/3...tercopypj7.jpg
@ Natalia: The lesson to learn here is that 2 or 3 Raptors are superior in performance vs 1 in every aspect. Doesn't really matter what size the drives are. Keep in mind that Raptors are ENTERPRISE level drives, designed to bring the reliability of SCSI to SATA..
Keep in mind the 150 GB Raptor is faster than the older ones.
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Originally Posted by uOpt
I was refering to the WD360ADFD Drives, not the older WD360GD drives wich have been around, from what I can tell, about three years. These WD360ADFD drives look to be built on the same premise as the new 150 wich have the model number WD1500ADFD
Also, on a side note, everyone talks about loss off data... not to much of a concern for me since I have never once seen a hard drive fail in my 15 years of using a computer... dating all the way back to DOS :p: Also, if I keep any sensative material that I can't just reinstall off the RAID, then if it dies, who cares? Right?
I was comparing prices and came across this!
WOOOOOOOOOOO
150GB RAptor with 50$ MIR for 199$ aMIR @ the EGG!
WISH I HAD the cash :-(
Wow it's back!Quote:
Originally Posted by phelan1777
Newegg had this deal like 4 days ago. I would jump on it if I had th money.
Hmmmmmmm.....
$200 for 1 150 GB Raptor......
$327 for 3 36GB Raptors in Raid....
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....
That's a tough one :stick:
uh, where in my post does it say that i have? I was merely pointing out that your tests used the very old barracudas, as opposed to the new ones...Quote:
Originally Posted by RangerXLT8
This was aimed at a comment natalia made about some folks at anandforums/ hence why I typed this "This is what Iraqi bob says from the folks on anand:"Quote:
Originally Posted by [TAG]Imp
@ Natalia, if you go with the 3x36GB drives you will be happy, trust me.
Yeah sure it will be fast, but it won't be worth it. $400 will get you two Raptors and 300 gigs of space. $327 for three Raptors that equal 108 gigs of space....Quote:
Originally Posted by RangerXLT8
spending another $73 will get you 192 gigs of space, I'd take it. Why have three 36k Raptors, when two 150 gig will be just fine.
I'd just get two 150gig Raptors in Raid0, and keep your other two 80gig drives as storage, or you can just buy another say 400gig drive and use that as storage. Up to you.
I think the point of the 3X36GB raptors was that 3 are better then 2 and that Natalia did not need 300GB of storage across 2 drives when 3 drives totaling 100gb is more practical in terms of speed..Quote:
Originally Posted by Latoron
I love my raptor 2x74 raid, 32K/16K stripe/cluster size. I'm always the 1st one in server (after map change) when online gaming :)
http://xs204.xs.to/xs204/06304/gbraidatto.JPG
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Originally Posted by RangerXLT8
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Originally Posted by kiwi
and if you wanna get a clear view of the new 2x74gb ADFD's performance
you can see how they perform against either the 3x36gb or the 2x74gd configs
(stripe64 cluster32 on ICH7R)
atto32
http://www.thelab.gr/attachment.php?postid=404627
HDTACH3.01
(don't pay attention to the insane burst speed...
the write caching just made the bench go crazy)
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27...ITECACHING.jpg
Wait, RangerXLT8, you have the old version of the 36 Gigs right? The WD360GD ones, not the new WD360ADFD. Would that mean it could even be faster than what you were testing?
Also, in regards to you test against an old Baracuda, that was a great test since those are the drives that I have now. Much more useful than a test against the new Seagate drives.
Yes the new 36GB Raptors are faster no doubt. The new 36GB drives could be as much as say 20% faster then mine. :banana: They are revised and have 16MB cache along with NCQ, which all make a big difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Natalia
I don't know how much space you need. With that said, the more Raptors doing the job, the faster. Remember RAID0 is a handfull of drives combined to make one big drive. Take how much space you need, and get as many Raptors as you can to make it up, the more drives, the faster it will be. Take 2x150 GB raptors = 300GB. That 300GB of storage made up with 4x74GB drives will be wayy faster.
More noise and heat, and power?Quote:
Originally Posted by RangerXLT8
Yep along with more SPEED.Quote:
Originally Posted by phelan1777
Anyone who has used Raptors in RAID understands what I'm talking about.
4x78 is just ASKING to lose data...
You know I have been reading tech forums since Raptors came about, and I have not heard one such case.Quote:
Originally Posted by [TAG]Imp
If it was me I would hold onto the drives I already have. Keep your raid 0 config for games and get a 32 gb flash drive for the os and swap file when available.
Because lots of have seen even D.O.A. Raptors (mostly 74gb older ones...)Quote:
Originally Posted by RangerXLT8
if someone is going for a 4 disk config
i'd definately recomend a raid5 setup...
you use the 200gb (3x74) and spare the xtra disk for security
much safer choice
especially if you can afford a decent hardware controller
to avoid suffering software-raid5 write time penalty...
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Originally Posted by RangerXLT8
ehh well I am 200$ or 1 raptor short of RAID :-/
I think for Natalias case depending on how much space is needed, 2x74GB Raptor would work aswell. I'm just saying that 1x150GB raptor cannot compete with 2xRaptor in RAID0.
Space is not too much of an issue. I only need enough space for Windows and it's teem of junk it installs, and a few games. I usually only play 2 maybe 3 games at any given time.
Also, is the RAID control built into a high end ASUS motherboard sufficient for what we are talking about?
ASUS do not produce their own controllers, be VERY careful which controller you'd use.
ICH5/6/7 (Intel integrated RAID controllers) have no PCI bus limitation and are good for RAID 0.
An integrated nvRaid will also give best possible performance in RAID 0.
I am running 4 Raptors in RAID 0 on nvRaid, but I do need it, and I still consider it slow, with actual copy speeds of 250 MB/s (not just some burst s***). I am YET to find anyone with SATA setup to outperform the nvRaid (without > 4 Raptors, \duh).
Promise integrated controllers on ASUS on the other hand are S*** of the worst kind :(
BTW, if you intend to run 3 drives, note that you will not gain much over 2 in real-world. Windows cache is oganized in 64K chunks, thus if the stripe is <32, you will read the same drive twice (at least one of the drives), and if it is >=32 you will not read at least one drive for each chunk.
Power of 2 plays a handy role in RAID.