E6600 Step 5 + Intel 975XBX Installed

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07-01-2006, 02:55 AM
taemun

:toast: for eva :D

Thanks for sharing (as per usual :))
07-01-2006, 03:19 AM
easyrider

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supertim0r

the bios 1304 is great
I'm dual prime @ 3600mhz, 50% OC, 1.325v, 1.395/1.725...all from bios settings :)

430fsb is usually the max with an unmodded board ?

I take it you did the short mod?

as I have just flashed yo 1304 bios and all my oc options have dissapeared:confused: :confused:
07-01-2006, 03:32 AM
Metroid

Bad axe is the most stable motherboard ever seen till now, but it lacks other important features.
07-01-2006, 04:24 AM
eva2000

thanks guys... 3dmark results coming next :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by easyrider

I take it you did the short mod?

as I have just flashed yo 1304 bios and all my oc options have dissapeared:confused: :confused:

I haven't even shorted the oc debug pin yet on my above results hehe.. all i did was flash to custom modded 1304 bios i made using ITK app :D
07-01-2006, 05:20 AM
easyrider

Quote:

Originally Posted by eva2000

thanks guys... 3dmark results coming next :D

I haven't even shorted the oc debug pin yet on my above results hehe.. all i did was flash to custom modded 1304 bios i made using ITK app :D

can you email me that bios?

pls:D
07-01-2006, 06:47 AM
day187

nice work and glad to see you are not shy with your conroe i been waiting for some dual action :D
07-01-2006, 07:33 AM
eva2000
thanks :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by easyrider

can you email me that bios?

pls:D

I'm using modded 1304 bios with default strap set at 1333fsb but with -20 negative burnin by default, so you still get 266fsb for default cpu and with 533 divider you still get 1:1 :D

I made 3 versions of this bios, one with default 1.45v, 1.50 and 1.55v vcore set. I'm using 1.5v vcore (1.441v) version right now :)

Ya need ITK method of bios update outlined at http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=96648

1.45v bios - only the 5 files missing the winxp bootable floppy created files so do that yourself or grab them from other 2 bioses below.
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975...3fsb/1.45v.zip

1.50v bios one i'm using now gives me 1.441v real vcore
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975...3fsb/1.50v.zip

1.55v bios - have yet to try myself yet will do next in light of my below 3dmark05 results below
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975...3fsb/1.55v.zip

Note, use at your own risk, i take no responsibility for any damages done when using the above 3 bioses :)

Okay here's what ya been waiting for I guess, some 3dmark action :)

Thought I'd start off with my 2x 256MB BFG 7800GTX @473(525)/1350 for all below tests in SLI mode with some special drivers :D

System:
- E6600 QPGE Step 5 / B1
- Swiftech G4 Storm H20 on cpu with Thermochill 120.3 (3x 120x38mm panaflo 103cfm fans/MCP650
- Intel D975XBX Badaxe rev 304 no physical mods with 1304 modded bios
- 2x 512MB OCZ PC5400 Platinum Enhanced Latency XTC 3-3-3-12 rated DDR2
- 2x 256MB BFG 7800GTX stock hsf SLI 84.66
- 320GB Seagate 7200.10 SATA 16MB
- CD-RW drive / FDD
- 700W OCZ GameXStream
Stock @2400Mhz (9x266fsb) with 4:5 (667)
for memory @333Mhz 3-3-3-15 at 2.1v

3dmark06 = 8,328

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975...50_8328_tn.png

3dmark05 = 13,345

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975...0_13345_tn.png

@3004Mhz (9x333fsb) with 1:1 (533)
for memory @333Mhz 3-3-3-15 at 2.1v

3dmark06 = 8,757

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975...50_8757_tn.png

3dmark05 = 15,521
(dam that's fast and i haven't even clocked the video cards higher yet and look at the >10k cpu score!)

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975...0_15521_tn.png

@3422Mhz (9x380fsb) with 1:1 (533)
for memory @380Mhz 4-4-3-15 at 2.2v

3dmark06 = 8,989

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975...50_8989_tn.png

3dmark06 = 16,286

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975...0_16286_tn.png

@3809Mhz (9x423fsb) with 1:1 (533)
for memory @423Mhz 4-4-4-15 at 2.2v

vcore = 1.441v

3dmark06 = 9,166

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975...50_9166_tn.png

3dmark05 = frooze in cpu test #1

@3780Mhz (9x420fsb) with 1:1 (533)
for memory @420Mhz 4-4-4-15 at 2.2v

vcore = 1.441v

3dmark05 = rebooted system from cpu test #2

@3750Mhz (9x416fsb) with 1:1 (533)
for memory @416Mhz 4-4-4-15 at 2.2v

vcore = 1.441v

3dmark05 = 16,724

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975...0_16724_tn.png

Seems quickest way to find stability is 3dmark05 cpu test equivalent to my 2hr dual stressprime run at 3750mhz at 1.441v :)

Reminder, all above scores are with 2x 256MB BFG 7800GTX @473(525)/1350!

Now comapre this to my best FX-60 score so far with 2x 256MB BFG 7800GTX stock HSF @493(541)/1370-77

Click on images for full screenies

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...0_8949_tnn.png

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...7_16212_tn.png

I'll do oc'd SLI tests next :D
07-01-2006, 07:45 AM
Lestat

now correct me if i am wrong here. but it looks liek it took the Conroe to run at 3.4 to run almost even, in 3dmark atleast, with the FX-60 @ 3.4
that sound about right ?

why does this seem not right ?

or does the FX just scale that good ? considering the bus and ram speed of the conroe wouldnt one want to believe that the conroe would be just kicking the crap out of the FX-60 ?
07-01-2006, 07:47 AM
eva2000

Nah re-read ;)

E6600 @3422mhz was with cards @473(525)/1350

vs

FX-60 @3408-3440mhz with cards @493(541)/1377

cards clocked higher on FX-60 :)
07-01-2006, 08:17 AM
Lestat

the fx60 cards arent clocked higher enough to make any difference at all.
20mhz doesnt make any difference on these cards. you have to overclock them quite a bit to get a rise out of them.

E6600 @ 3.4
vs
FX-60 @ 3.4

shows almost similar 3dmark scores regardless of the 10mhz difference in clocks.

that just doesnt seem right
the FX-60 has EXTREMELY low FSB and memory while the E6600 has very high FSB and memory.

i mean lets be honest thats real world stuff Eva...
some real game benchmarks would result in a more true to life result.

now try some multimedia and other benches,, thats where i think the conroe is going to truly shine.

try to setup the FX 60 with a higher HTT and memory so the memory speeds and such are closer together and try it.

what im seeing goes against eveything else that i have been seeing.

unless im not seeing something here that FX is hanging right in there with the conroe which has a much higher overclock and fsb and ram/bus speed.
i cant think right off the top of my head what the stock clock on an FX-60 is.
07-01-2006, 08:20 AM
eva2000

FX-60 has cold bug hence low HTT heh. But yes real world for 3dmark/gaming conroe's margin over FX-60 @3.4ghz at least is alot less heh.

FX-60 stock is 13x200HTT = 2600mhz heh

Okay first oc'd SLI test

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975...7_16938_tn.png

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975...77_9248_tn.png

AM3 = 172,668 :eek:

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975...172668_tnn.jpg
07-02-2006, 03:23 AM
eva2000

2x 512MB OCZ PC5400 Plat XTC maxes at 2.2v @423-426mhz 4-4-4-8/15

2x 512MB Corsair PC5400ULv1.5 Fatbody D9 Micron so far at 2.2v @506mhz 4-4-4-15 :eek: and still haven't tried higher yet.

Click image for full timings and mem screenshot
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975..._single_tn.png

At 3649Mhz 9x405fsb and 4:5 506mhz 4-4-4-15 only 8 seconds slower than @3809Mhz (9x423fsb) and ram @423mhz 4-4-4-8 of 15min 05s!

5400ULv1.5 now at 3816Mhz 9x424fsb 4:5 with ram @530mhz 4-4-4-15 at 2.2v

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975..._single_tn.png

Crazy 530mhz 4-4-4-15 at 2.2v which is 33 seconds faster than @3809Mhz (9x423fsb) and ram @423mhz 4-4-4-8 of 15min 05s :D
07-03-2006, 10:52 AM
eva2000

I'm back on 1067fsb strap and with E6600 only having 9x multiplier had to do 9x389fsb 1:1 with ram at 389mhz 4-4-4-5 at 2.2v

seems with my 2x512MB PC5400ULv1.5 ram i can do 389fsb easy with 1067fsb strap straight boot from bios - stock unmodded badaxe rev304

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975..._15m06s_tn.png

I loose 438-389 = 49mhz off memory clocks compared to a E6700 @10x350fsb 4:5 438mhz 4-4-4-5 and loose +20s off 32M with 2x512MB vs 2x1GB heh

Getting the hang of this board and cpu now, 1067fsb strap with 9x400fsb with 2x512MB PC5400ULv1.5 @400mhz 4-4-4-5 at 2.2v straight boot from bios with +50% burnin.

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975...4min42s_tn.png

This is what it takes on Badaxe with 1304 bios for 2x 512MB modules on 1067fsb strap 1:1 cpu:mem to break 14min 28s single 32M. Booted straight from bios at 9x400fsb and used clockgen to raise fsb to 404.7fsb for 3646Mhz with ram @404mhz 4-4-3-5 at 2.2v

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975...4min27s_tn.png

Crazy 1067fsb strap with 9x411fsb = 3703mhz with 2x512MB PC5400ULv1.5 ram @411mhz 4-4-3-5 at 2.2v totally unmodded badaxe rev304.

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975...4min12s_tn.png

@9x415fsb 4-4-3-5 at 2.2v!

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975...4min05s_tn.png

@9x418fsb 4-4-3-5 at 2.2v breaks 14min for 1st time :D

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975...3min57s_tn.png

I wonder if how high fsb you can clock on 1067fsb is memory dependent ? i.e.

on 1067fsb with 2.2v vdimm 1304 bios

2x256MB Centon PC4300 Advance Micron D9 fatties = max 382fsb

2x512MB OCZ PC5400 Platinum XTC = max 378fsb

2x512MB Corsair PC5400ULv1.5 Micron D9 fatties = so far completed 32M upto 418fsb and doing 32M run @421fsb!
07-04-2006, 01:10 AM
eva2000

Decided to change the stock northbridge (MCH) heatsink as it appears better MCH/NB cooling = higher FSB :)

Easiest way to remove stock bad axe NB heatsink is to:

1. Unhinge the spring on one side
2. See in this pic here , the 2 diamond club shape tabs at top of heatsink. Unhinge them from the heatsink and the black clips just falls off.

I installed my 2nd Thermaltake Extreme Spirit II chipset cooler, 169g of copper goodness @19dba fan noise :D

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975...ls/thumb_3.jpg http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975...ls/thumb_7.jpg http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975...ls/thumb_9.jpg

Full pics here http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975...heatsink/html/
07-04-2006, 02:24 AM
v0dka

Eva2000, just wanted to say that this is one of the cleanest and best organised threads I've ever seen. Beautiful.

Interesting results as well, seems that the FX isnt far behind clock for clock and that Conroe's main advantages are higher stable speeds with less cooling and the absence of coldbug.
07-04-2006, 02:40 AM
Primoz78

Quote:

Originally Posted by eva2000

I installed my 2nd Thermaltake Extreme Spirit II chipset cooler, 169g of copper goodness @19dba fan noise :D

What is the difference in °C between the stock and the Spirit?

Regards,
Primoz
07-04-2006, 02:44 AM
eva2000

if the bios remote and internal temps reports are NB then around 2-3C cooler so far from bios... before 28-30C now 25-28C

Quote:

Originally Posted by v0dka

Eva2000, just wanted to say that this is one of the cleanest and best organised threads I've ever seen. Beautiful.

Interesting results as well, seems that the FX isnt far behind clock for clock and that Conroe's main advantages are higher stable speeds with less cooling and the absence of coldbug.

thanks.. it's nice to be appreciated and even nicer the smell of fresh new hardware :D
07-04-2006, 04:30 AM
Kallenator

Very nice as allways Eva :)

But you might want to check this out.
3dmark06 = 16,286 | just a little glitch ;)

What are the temps Load Idle?
07-04-2006, 04:41 AM
WeedJunk

Looks sweet, that Thermaltake Extreme Spirit II chipset cooler. Looks like full copper, right? :slobber:
07-04-2006, 04:49 AM
Primoz78

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeedJunk

Looks sweet, that Thermaltake Extreme Spirit II chipset cooler. Looks like full copper, right? :slobber:

As eva2000 said:
I installed my 2nd Thermaltake Extreme Spirit II chipset cooler, 169g of copper goodness @19dba fan noise

...I think it is full of copper ;)

Regards,
Primoz
07-04-2006, 04:53 AM
[XC] Angstrom

eva: Do the caps around the socket give you any trouble with the Storm, would it be possible for you to mount it vertically (as opposed to horizontally like you have now) without issues?
07-04-2006, 04:54 AM
eva2000

yeah full copper = 169g :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kallenator

Very nice as allways Eva :)

But you might want to check this out.
3dmark06 = 16,286 | just a little glitch ;)

What are the temps Load Idle?

whoops 3dmark05 heh

temps of what chipset ? in windows can't read chipset temps heh

Quote:

Originally Posted by EquilibriumX

eva: Do the caps around the socket give you any trouble with the Storm, would it be possible for you to mount it vertically (as opposed to horizontally like you have now) without issues?

only mounting the way i pictured other way the blue heatsinks are too tall and get in the way that and if you could mount storm other way, it would obstruct the space for a 3rd party chipset cooler if you intend to use one heh
07-04-2006, 05:35 AM
Waus-mod

Great going eva :D
07-04-2006, 06:02 AM
Kallenator

Was thinking about CPU Idle/Load, sorry about that one :p
07-04-2006, 06:16 AM
eva2000

3750MHZ at 1.441v = 33-34C idle and 59C dual stressprime load - already posted this in this thread ;)

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