Thank you VW... Killer @ Stock and can think of a serial-killer @ oc. Also hope to see it work with atleast one asus board available right now...
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Thank you VW... Killer @ Stock and can think of a serial-killer @ oc. Also hope to see it work with atleast one asus board available right now...
Congrats Victor. :toast:
Have u any picture of this little toy? :D
@victor
just wondering why dont u edit the first post with new results and answers of the many questions here?
Maybe because he's in bed.
Time in Shanghai
I am expecting something like this:Quote:
Originally Posted by vapb400
Conroe 2.4Ghz - - - - $350
2Gb DDR2 (or maybe 4 for vista?) - - - - $150-200
Mobo - - - - $200
Thats what I expect it to be for me in the end. Sorry to disrupt this thread tho :slap: . Also I wanted to ask, if anyone would be so nice as to PM me the type of mobo that will be needed for Conroe (Fugger? FCG? VW?) and the type of recomended ram, as im totally new to the Intels and DDR2. Thank you for your patience.
And ofcourse, sweet score VW have fun with your Conroe and please keep us posted :banana: .
now its about timeQuote:
Originally Posted by freecableguy
let the magic happen
6 hours....... (and 4 days now )
hundreds are eagerly waiting
opened another sixpack
fresh pizza napoletana
gave the dog a walk
:stick: :stick: :stick: :stick:
lol yea i was talking about his current conroe setup, that is a far from optimal setup for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragex
http://images.dailytech.com/nimage/1...oe_pricing.jpg
latest conroe pricing^^
wow, with some decent cooling we may even see some single digit spi 1m times :eek:
cant wait for a good bios for these. what is the 985 chipset supposed to offer over the 975/965?
I've only seen the 985 mentioned in threads only. Someone show me an article or link that says intel is making a 985chipset? They made it clear that they are making a 965 chipset....where is the 985 chipset information at?Quote:
Originally Posted by rozzyroz
just guessingQuote:
Originally Posted by rozzyroz
support for 1333 FSB
ICH8 southbridge
complete conroe support from the beginning
dual real 16x slots??
probably some other nifty stuff as well.
very good results
965 supose to have "native" support for conroe as well
they're only there to support the conroe, or the 945 would of been sufficient
how does merom compare to conroe?
AMD is going to have to do something crazy to keep up with this.
conroe and merom are identical cores (merom is just the 'mobile version' and so will likely be made with slower switching, cooler running transistors, or perhaps just be binned conroe processors), so performance difference will be nill provided the fsb/supporting hardware is the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeguava
Nice Victor! I hope we'll be able to see some OC results soon. Can you shed more light the mobo? I was going to wait and see if Asus put a new 975 board for Conroe, but if the 965s are looking good, I'll get a P5B Deluxe (P965). I was just worried they wouldn't OC as well.
Thanks for coming through on this Victor, I think a lot of people were starting to climb the walls ;)
Intel rulez....this cpu is a real revolution....
At over 3 volts wow. Thats alot of volts
It's 1.2v actual, CPUZ is off...
@Pinnacle: Ah.. CPU-Z cannot get accurate info on the Conroe.. since it (conroe) hasn't been really released yet ;)
VW said that he only used the stock Vcore of 1.2V..
@victor
do you can do something for me ?
please run s_pi 16mb and cinebench 2003
Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolute_0
Oh I see
something thats always bugged me...its NOT megabyte...Quote:
Originally Posted by demek
sorry, my badQuote:
Originally Posted by AkXb70
16M :)
Cinebench 2003 would be really great!
I feel like throwing my yonah to recycle bin :p: :D
:woot:
OR this.
See? It is already 20-80 ratio. I predicted 10-90 or more :D
actually megabitQuote:
Originally Posted by AkXb70
mb=megabit
MB=MegaByte
It was 406/90 earlier.Quote:
Originally Posted by demek
Can we stop with all the useless post? I just want to read about conroe, i don't actually care how excited all of you are.(and i don't think i speak only for myself)
Can't there be one thread about the 3 conroes that doesn't get filled with useless post, drowning out the actual results(that people really want to see)
:stick: Actually, actually:Quote:
Originally Posted by ewitte
Mb = MegaBit, MB = MegaByte
PS: Rather lame way to subscribe to this thread, I know. :woot:
wouldn't mb be millibit? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by ewitte
Mb = megabit.
ya know, if we were gonna actually follow standards or something. (pah, the computer industry doesn't need standards)
in other news, the conroe looks freakin awesome. i was GOING to look into an X2 in a few months, but now i may have to reconsider.
Awesome results there... can't wait for Conroe! Q3 2006 cant come quick enough!
Victor, can you please tell me/us what the max FSB in the BIOS is on that board? With such low multis on Conroes, I've been dying to know if the PLL chips have been replaced with faster ones....I know there's at least 500MHz PLLs are out there and was wondering if the new boards would step up with those to go along with the low multis ;) Thanks!
VICTOR,
you are becoming famous here in Israel (Home of the CONROE).
http://hwzone.co.il/news/1144186949/58172/
what he said ^^^^^^^^^^^Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeguava
this is ABSOLUTELY amazing to say the least
Wow
not really sure why everyones going so crazy over some SuperPi scores. We already knew based on Yonah that Conroe would own in SuperPi, and Merom already proved this. But what we should also all realise is that these SuperPi 1M scores are not very indicative of average performance increases. They are probably the strongest point for Conroe, so of course it owns everything in SuperPi. However there are also things it is weak at where the gains will not be very good at all. Don't be expecting Conroe to own everything just cause it does at SuperPi.
What happened to the Conroe @ 3.4ghz thread :confused:
This is true. As somebody pointed out to me, Conroe's adaptave cache means that one of the cores has access to all of the cache for single threaded apps, like superpi. Superpi likes cache. So, the 4MB cache certainly helped superpi an extraordinary amount.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrownTown
No, it is not just SuperPI. It ownz in 3d as well and I am sure it will do very well in other appz :D
I am afraid this is not possible, there've always been like this before and probably will be. For pure results threads must be locked. And I don't think moderators would spend time deleting 400 useless posts in one thread :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Gonwee
What happened to all of the Fugger/FCG Conroe threads? :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by perry_78
I'm thinking we've been dramatically letdown here......:nono:
How do you pronounce "conroe", does it sound as "conroy" or more like "conro"? We have an argument here :D
Impressive results. I cant wait to see if it works on the P5WD2-WS. If so, we will see the SPI1mb record broken w/o breaking a sweat. *Subscribes*
My guess is "conro" :banana:Quote:
Originally Posted by integral
Quote:
Originally Posted by BrownTown
agreed - but we can expect nevertheless a big improvement in Intel previous weaknesses.
That combined with most likely being immune to coldbugs - makes this a very attractive platform for overl:banana::banana::banana::banana:ers and Xtreme benchers - hence a lot of us being very excited
Quote:
Originally Posted by n91htmare
That crap is plain out getting old. :slapass:
That 4mb cache access would explain a deal, but makes perfect sense architectually why they would do that.
I'm just guessing Intel asked FCG/FUGGER to remove their own results?
eh, last I checked Yonahs werent going much over 3G, but don't think i've seen any Xtreme cooling on them yet. So far I'd say its way to early to expect good overclockability from this chip.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeguava
SPI is all i care about :DQuote:
Originally Posted by BrownTown
what results? last I saw they hadn't gotten anything working yet...Quote:
Originally Posted by perry_78
OK, well thats kinda sad.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
wow really 3.4GHzQuote:
Originally Posted by perry_78
Did I miss something? Did Fugger/FCG post up a new thread with full results only to take it down moments later? Or what?Quote:
Originally Posted by perry_78
This thread is making me depressed as an AMD owner : (
if they did it would have to have been up for only a few minutes at most for only 1 person to have seen it...I think he means that the threads where they claim to have Conroes but then never post reults were deleted...:p:Quote:
Originally Posted by trakslacker
Might have been 3.6, either way over 3 :)Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
If that wasnt a bogus thread I would have liked to see sandra results aside from super pi only.
I doubt "only" a shrink will redeem amd. together with ddr2 they will be in hot prescott shoes it seems. history will repeat itself in intels favour, but honestly, intel should have done this aeons ago with its resources...
Quote:
Originally Posted by perry_78
perry, fill me in here. so, there was a thread posted up here about an OC'ed Conroe, or was this somewhere/time else? If it was here, who posted the thread? Just trying to figure out where this talk of a 3ghz+ Connie is coming from.
Rumors, you know. they're bad.
Quote:
Originally Posted by freecableguy
Quote:
Originally Posted by mine
no beer
no pizza
no conroe benches
dog is sleeping
______________
no information
night everybody
so far only 1 person says they saw it, perhaps just mistook this 2.4 thread for a 3.4 thread? But great, now there will be a million rumors going everywhere casue you posted that :slapass: .
there was plain nothing
zero
yea the 3.4 thread was a joke, it just said "hehe" then had the ass slap smilie.
hehe, thats why I want to stop this rumor before it starts. Perry, please clarify what you are speaking about asap.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrownTown
It was 3.6 Ghz and it was a joke, it was immediately deleted
good, die rumor die
I merely saw the thread on the forum frontpage as newest post in Intel - when I clicked it told me I followed an invalid link.Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolute_0
Here we have the clarification :)
I'm waiting for air overclock. Can't wait to see the overclocked Superpi 1MB! :D
Thx for the clarification, Absolute.Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolute_0
ARRGGHH!!
Ahoy,
Do I have any gamblers on this ship? A pence for an old man o'de sea?
I wager they will lock out the multi and and other tricks to keep Conroe from being enthusiast friendly...any bets, matey...YARR!!!!
well, of course the multiplier will be locked, its always locked in non EE chips. So, yeah the fact that the FSB is so fast could bad for overclocking since the lower multiplier chips will be limited by FSB. We can start betting about how high they will clock on air if you want.
What is the multi? 9? 266x9=2.4Quote:
Originally Posted by BrownTown
ACTUALLY...its NONE of those...its Million Decimal Places..no bits, bytes or anything related...Quote:
Originally Posted by incurable
That is true, that is why I play on going with a 2.66 (10x mult) chip. That is unless we can source some 2.4 or lower ES Conroes before I can get my hands on the retail 2.66.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrownTown
Frick this is nuts...I leave XS for a few days and THIS is what happens, holy hell!!! :woot:
Hopefully Shuttle will be FAIRLY ontop of things and will do what they can to get an XPC on the market that supports Conroe in the not to distant future, I can't even imagine having that kind of power available in a SFF system. :cool:
Hey VictorWang
Nice chip
Even with the Bios giving u some problems that chip performs amazingly well. Most of us knew Conroe will perform after seeing Core Duo, Merom performances.And Dothan on 2.8Ghz ;)
Could you plz update your FIRST post and just add information there, like if u have troubles with BIOS or whatever. It makes it easier coz all ur information is in one spot :)
Thankyou and Good luck
ORCBEAST
wow, and that is on stock with air cooling :slobber:
that is delicious 4mb cache in super pi grrr, no more amd for me :toast:
Damn... I'm so glad I didnt buy my rig now. Hopefully conroe will be out buy october... lol
is there a 975 shuttle?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cornelious0_0
Shuttle should have something similair out in the near future.
Quote:
Originally Posted by perry_78
I dont see why Shuttle wouldnt want to go Conroe way or even Merom way. Both chips u get alot more performance,price per watts.
Shuttle will definitely get Yonah/Merom/Conroe support.....but they are notoriously slow at introducing technology.
Just out of curiosity, what is the probability that these results are pure rubbish?
A 2.4-2.6 ghz conroe is equal to a 7+ ghz p4? WTF
I have a hard time believing this but I hope everything I see is true.
Whatever Victor posts can be trustedQuote:
Originally Posted by beta67
a dual core 7+ghz p4 !
I am sad to report that that BIOS 0401 (only release) for the Asus P5WDG2-WS does not allow a POST with my Conroe. Hopefully Asus reps will be able to tell us something soon. This is disappointing for me too...
:(
-FCG
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOQuote:
Originally Posted by freecableguy
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
any other alernatives FCG?
So the current Bad Axe and P5WDG2-WS do not support it, any others to add to the list?
These are legit. Why wouldn't you believe them? Conroe is a hell of alot better than any netburst coreQuote:
Originally Posted by beta67
because I am very ignorant when it comes to microchip architecture and the OP only posting one quick benchmark made me skepticalQuote:
Originally Posted by vapb400
That really sucks especially after all the money spent.... Hopefully there is a remedy...Quote:
Originally Posted by freecableguy
Alex
Well, CRAP!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by freecableguy
What's FUGGER up to though? Wasn't he trying to get something going, or is he having the same issues (no mobos) as you?
Thanks.
Mike
"Tis better to remain silent and let others assume you are a fool, than to speak and prove them right"Quote:
Originally Posted by beta67
@FCG: That REALLY sucks man. Hopefully the good folks at Asus can shed some light on the situation. If we're all lucky, its a BIOS issue. If unlucky, its a hardware issue. Maybe something can be modded to give proper voltages if thats whats causing the problems? Hopefully someone can give us a bit of concrete info regarding the compatibility issues. Keep up the good work guys!
*EDIT*: TheMan42, that was so offtopic its stupid. Please take it to the AMD section and stop clogging this thread.
I ordered a Bad Axe. I have one more trick up my sleeve although what I really want to know is what is needed to get Conroe to run on an Asus 975X board.
The problem is definately at least partially BIOS related as a check of CPU supply voltage (vcore) with a multimeter when the board has power shows 0v being supplied to the CPU....hmmm....need about 1.2v more. :rolleyes:
-FCG
Have you tried the 0403 BIOS for the P5WD2-E? Not sure if it will work for the WS, but its a newer build in case you have the P5WD2-E to test also.Quote:
Originally Posted by freecableguy
http://www.bilo-supermarket.com/asus.zip
Quote:
Originally Posted by freecableguy
Couldn't you manually compensate for that FCG?
mby power_good signal is not connected.. or the voltage conroe is requesting by VID pins is "no cpu" by current lga775 p4/pd specsheet..
either way, pinmod would help...
but that's only solution to a half problem.. bios issues still stay..
my intel contact said conroe should have no trouble on a 975 and won't need a bios update.. wonder what's wrong these days =/
the conroe work on the Intel D975XBX ?
no, the problem is that the VID code for the MOSFET drivers is not being set properly. this forces the MOSFETs low with an open source to gate drain....hence 0 supply voltage. think of this like a fail safe, since the BIOS cannot correctly determine the CPU microcode, it causes a power supply shutdown so that the processor does not accidently receive a deadly voltage....Quote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
like its been said large cache = low 1m lets see a 32m and some gaming benches.
looks impressive but so far Spi = fluff with that kind of cache avil.
AMD will have a hard time with conroe at 530.00 vs 1200 if Conroe does as well in games as its doing in Spi
Asus will give you the right bios ?
Could you overclock with the Intel 975X board ?
Conroe with SSE4? That's news to me.
Well, back to the drawing board. Thanks Victor, now I have 2nd toughts on getting a 960 and the thing is that I just ordered my Tuniq Tower 120 this morning before this thread started so I guess that's on the bright side for when I get a Conroe.
Good work Victor, thanks. :toast:
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