yeah, cause every time someone submits an order, their inventory system sees it's out of stock and hides it from viewing.Quote:
Originally Posted by nn_step
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yeah, cause every time someone submits an order, their inventory system sees it's out of stock and hides it from viewing.Quote:
Originally Posted by nn_step
ok, how do I found out when I can see it so I can actually buy it?Quote:
Originally Posted by ozzimark
Chances are they won't even have enough to fill all the orders as it is, I doubt you'll get a set from them
Try Skew Mode = Decrease and Skew set at 0. Also, try mal= 9ns (8 may be fine for you), and preamble at 5.5ns. For tref, try 166mhz 1.95us, which is 4708 in bios I believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by ozzimark
Isn't setting it at 0 the same as having no skew at all? And for TREF IMO you need to try all of the bottom 8 in the BIOS (all 1.95us settings). 2560, 3072, or 3684 I think are your best betsQuote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
skew increase (slow) is actually a smidge more stable, but inconsistantly. decrease is worse. i've tested that out quite throroughlyQuote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
mal 9ns, i was trying not to do that, but i might if i can't get 300mhz otherwise
preamble already is 5.5ns ;)
also, tref.. i've messed around with that a lot too, and 3072 is definitly most stable no matter what.
Not True. The Mushkin Redline 2GB Kit can do 48+hours of p95 blend but instantly error in 3dmark05 and run like poop in BF2 and CS Source. With your Vid Card i dont think u can run the tests that we all want u to run :( Got any friends close by that'll let u borrow theirs and run a few benchies?Quote:
Originally Posted by ozzimark
This is an email I got from TG todayQuote:
Originally Posted by Repoman
February 28th, 2006 Newsletter
Product Announcements:
We are proud to announce we are now carrying Team brand high performance DDR memory! We are currently having 3 modules tested, and we'll have results posted on our forum. You can see the new memory offerings byclicking here. We expect great things from this company.
We are slowly expanding our offerings of stepping information on processors. We currently offer stepping information on the AMDAthlon X2 3800,Opteron 165, Opteron 146. We'll be adding more processors as demand allows.
Product Special Announcements:
AMD Opteron 146 - Normal price $214.99, on sale for only $194.99! (Quantities very limited!)
ASUS A8N32 SLI Deluxe - Normal price $210.00, on sale for $200.00
AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ - Normal price $316.00, on sale for $306.00
Other News:
As mentioned in our last newsletter, we have opened up our own forum. Traffic is steadily increasing, and we hope to continue to grow! Come on by and check it out, and join us! We offer exclusive specials for forum members, so it's well worth looking into.
Thanks to all of you who have supported us so far, we greatly appreciate your business. Have a great day!
-TankGuys Team
Also as a side note I cant get blend stable to save my bawlz, but I can 3d till the cows come home.. wierd huh?
I apprecaite all those who expect to purchase TeamGroup 2gb set cronus, here is the lastest update news from what the 1st director of Marketing, "I am pretty much confident that we will have nearly 400 pairs allocate to different regions especially focus on US market."
What about that guys? I promise that certainly you guys will have that just the matter you gotta give them to produce and do the QA.
OPB
quite interesting, and slightly amusing if i may say so :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Philosophy
i have a strong feeling that i'm 3d stable at these speeds, but we'll see i guess.
indeed, time is of essence. Team is just now barely making their way into the US market, and people are already complaining about the scarcity of products :nono:Quote:
Originally Posted by Onepagebook
Micron chips never had 3D problems. If they were prime, 90% of the time they were also 3D.
As for that TankGuys newsletter, they are having three sets of Teamgroup memory tested. A set of pc4800 TCCD, a set of pc3200 UTT, and a set of 2GB micron -5b F. I'm personally testing the 4800 and the UTT. Tankguys forum member Avalon got the Micron.
I'll be posting my results here as well as on Tankguys forums, don't know about Avalon though.
just played through a skirmish in warhammer, no problems at all. took about 30 min. this is at the same exact settings used in the prime95 stable shot i took earlier.Quote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
Nice :-D
nice keep us posted..
I have my expert and opty now all i need is my OCZ and my Cronus..
What is wrong with wanting more product availablity?Quote:
Originally Posted by ozzimark
it keeps prices reasonable and it keeps customers happy..
but it hasn't even come in stock to begin with :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by nn_step
anyway, after doing some poking about, i'm gonna agree with enjoy.. micron doesn't have 3d problems, except in a few rare cases. this isn't one of those :toast:
ok, when can we expect to get some of these if humanly possible?
not soon enough it seems :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by nn_step
i'd say that in the next week or two we'll definitly start to see scattered stock showing up.
Quote:
Originally Posted by nn_step
Oh ya.. why not.
According to Overclocker's manual:D
If Good product barely can be purchased, then it's not a good product but just an eye candy;)
OPB
Excellent results !!
jack
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Originally Posted by nn_step
Team is sending more as quickly as possible. There's only a limited number of sticks available in the US at the moment, but more is on the way.
I hope I ordered mine early enough to get them from this shipment :)Quote:
Originally Posted by TankGuys
here is about the best i can do. ICL 016 didn't end up helping, sadly. threw it back to 256 because it was much more consistant, despite previous experiences with 016 the other day.
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=75579
edit: enjoy, mind updating that DB of yours? :D
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=67762&page=57
Anything for you ozzi, consider it done later tonight... ;)
thanks :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
i understand how you feel about updating it though... i'm kinda behind on the revE oc db over at [H]... :(
Wow Ozzi, your almost there!! Nice Work, keep it up!!
:toast:
$260
They look pretty tasty,me thinks me need some.
They are on backorder, so take a number :YIPPIE:
I did.. but I don't think I got a lucky numberQuote:
Originally Posted by klrgreenis
Quote:
You are 666th in line
http://www.ocztechnology.com/product...l_platinum_xtc
OCZ introduced their new DDR500 3 3 3 8 2GB.
Maybe they use the same IC from micron.
could be, but discussion for that is not for this thread ;)
take it here
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=90881
SorryQuote:
Originally Posted by ozzimark
I had never noticed that area of thi forum before you posted the link.
OMG are you serious??Quote:
Originally Posted by nn_step
Wow I feel lucky I am #13:banana:
Ah lucky 13, yikes well lets hope so!!
settings of the Team Xtreem looks like beeing the same as the Ballistix!!! so nice.....it will roxxxe!
is is indeed pretty similar. helps that it uses micron dies too, just a different revision :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by rastaseb
Lets pray that this revision doesn't get into the habit of dying..;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ozzimark
any sign of these in the uk???
02-27-2006, 07:53 PM #11
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Hello! Everyone,
Sorry to let you guys keep waiting and for the short supply at the beginnig.
However, we're doing our best to improve and I will make sure that Cronus DDR500 2*1GB (3-3-3-8) will be avaible next week (around March 7th),
Thank you for the best support and interest in team Xtreem. Your comments are always welcome!
Best regards.
Xtreem Tech Support
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...9&postcount=11
edit: also visit www.teamgroup.com.tw > search forums for uk distro
I just bought a 1gig dimm Buffalo. It has Micron -5b rev F on them and payed $70 for it. Ill have pics and some resalts soon.
that is good news.. and good news for them because they probably will sell out about 2 hours after that...Quote:
Originally Posted by flytek
Well, a nice post, with a lot of facts, rumors and some nice results.
Compliments, Ozzi:clap:
As for the set I have, even before they were called Cronos,
I havn`t tried anything more than 2,78V, and they max out @289 3-3-3-8 on my RDX.
On my NF4 Ultra-D got them op to @287 3-3-3-8.
Sadly, couldn`t get them to do 2-2-2-8@200 on neither.
Remarkably though, lateral timings can stay 15-7-1-2-1-2 up to 269~.
Compared to UCCC 3-4-4-8 @ 299x9 vs 269X10 the microns give me the best system performance, so until i get a better set, these are here to stay.
:woot:
(me is Berry on Madshrimps.be)
You know it seems that everyone is doing paper launches. What's the point of advertising your product if no one can buy it? It was frustrating when AMD did it, it was frustrating when ATI and Nvidia were pulling these stunts and now memory makers.
the rule of thumb is three weeks before everyone gets pissed at the paper launch...
I here ya. By the time its even close to mainstream supply its over and gone.
Well, some detailed explaining on how I got them, then.
After purchasing my first 2 sets, Infineon and Samsung based, i contacted their support with a request on info and availability on a set, that would be compatible with my barebone.
Got a mail the same day, that a shipment was sent to their German distri.
He got different flavours, including some new microns.
They were the first sets, to be shipped.
And I got one of them.
Me lucky. :toast:
Three weeks later, I posted my findings on Madshrimps, and another three weeks later availability should be a fact.
They seem to mis that by a week.
If that is all :slapass:
And as for all the modules I have, I paid for them and got them through retail channels.
i saw that review and was slightly jealous that someone had beaten me to the punch of getting a review on them (:slapass: for me being slow) . i should have mine up in about a week or so, i'm gonna be away from my test rig cause i'm going snowboarding with my dad this week :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by XII
strange that you couldn't do 2-2-2 at 200mhz. mine is just barely stable, though i only have 2-3mhz of headroom. at 2.7v, max 32m stable is just a smigde over 201mhz, and i've found that max prime stable is about 1mhz underneath max 32m stable.. so yeah, just barely does 200mhz at 2-2-2 ;)
3-3-3 is definitly optimal though. my chart of max 32m stable results:
Code:2-2-2 2-3-2 2.5-3-2 2.5-3-3 3-3-3 3-3-3-8 2T
2.5 290.63 289.87
2.6 204.35 222.51 245.21 292.9 293.65
2.7 201.32 206.62 223.27 246.73 295.17 295.92
2.8 202.83 208.13 225.54 250.21 297.44 301.22
2.9 202.83 210.4 226.29 251.27 296.68 302.73
3 202.83 212.67 227.81 257.32 295.92 306.52
Maybe the early bird isn`t always the winner.
Nice results though. Maybe going to burn them harder, once my new CE6 are in.
Almost same story, hard to get, long wait.
Until then, 263X11 24/7 for my system.
Maybe finally finish my second rig, so i can do some more heavy testing.
As for the results of my test, keep in mind it is an RDX, not an Expert/Venus.
It has a few strange twists, but I love it.
Nice foot-note, calls for competition, though.
wow ozzi, you really like to test your RAM don't you :p: No way I'd have the patience for all those 32m runs.
On a side note I also have some Team Infineon coming in as well :) Don't know exactly which IC's, but they're rated 3-3-2-8 at DDR500 for $220! Similar OCZ stuff costs $280
i'll be waiting for it :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by XII
I am hoping us poor cousins in AU get some of these Cronus 2GB sets ;)
You've had it this whole time, in fact, you're the first people I myself saw had them :)
Teamgroup at Nintek
You guys even have an ETA on the Micron stuff (second page) of March 8th
Looks like this stuff could be the new Ballistix without the massive amount of heat. Certainly a good backup/replacement for my Gskill HZ.
Are you yet ANOTHER nintek shill, they are the very last place I and many others would ever consider buying from :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by WC Annihilus
Agreed and considering the $489.00 Price tag they put on the same ram that Tankguys is selling for $260 is a freaking joke..Quote:
Originally Posted by alpha0ne
har har.. that would be $365 USD.. please think before you post
Really because It says $260.00 so I think It is close
http://www.tankguys.biz/team-xtreem-...acturers_id=62
unless you think they charge $100 in shipping
No. What the distributors of Cronus are doing to the price is a freaking joke. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by nn_step
So what is the price of buying it direct?;)Quote:
Originally Posted by 5days
~$245-250 is my dealer cost.Quote:
Originally Posted by nn_step
MSRP is $305, for what it's worth.
nintek is an AUSTRALIAN site.. what currency do you think they accept? :stick: $489 AUD = $365 USDQuote:
Originally Posted by nn_step
Ozzi Ozzi Ozzi, I wanna see some 300 action, have you been burning em in?
I think 300 is a nice round number, lets see it...
it's gonna have to wait a week, sorry :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Philosophy
i'll see if i can manage to eek out the last 3 mhz sometime.. it's definitly not gonna be too easy without seriously killing the secondary timings. :(
Cant wait a week :p: , please send it to me and I will post all the ss you like @ 300MHz :eek: ;) :DQuote:
Originally Posted by ozzimark
Hey, you were just asking whether AU had it and I showed. I never said it was a good deal... Sorry if I offended (or whatever you want to call it) :(
Nothing personal, unless you are a shill, which the mentioned company is very well known for :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by WC Annihilus
well i just checked work today and found another 2 sticks of Amicroe OEM with Micron -5B F chips... one is week 50 and the other is week 52.... (i already got a week 50 and week 52 infront of me...)
im yet to test them as i dont have a motherboard yet... im awaiting my dfi expert....
unfortunately i think i got one of the very early revisions of the DFI board... AA0?
i havent really done any research on the revisions but hopefully this is a good board...
I will update u guys asap... hopefully in a couple of days :)
Cant wait to see your results :)
Make sure to keep i4 updated :toast:
i shall do dude :)Quote:
Originally Posted by alpha0ne
now its the waiting game on the mobo :slapass:
Nope, jus a kid in the US who only really got into hardware and such last summer :DQuote:
Originally Posted by alpha0ne
Well you certainly have some very nice h/ware for someone who only became enthusiastic recently :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by WC Annihilus
This is what I picked up form the computer fair for $79.
http://pic15.picturetrail.com/VOL601.../132149605.jpg
I have a 3000+ S754 NC CBAUC and its one of the first NCs out and the mem controler sucks. All I can get out of the mem controler is about 255 and the meme will do that at 3,3,3,8.
That stick looks like -5B.. but I really can't read it that well
it's definitly F.. you can tell from the sticker anyway ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by nn_step
1GMFJ
Its -5b rev F.Quote:
Originally Posted by nn_step
IT SUCKS that my NC has a poor mem controler. This the cooling on it as of now. This rev F is much cooler the the rev C and rev D at the same voltage.
http://pic15.picturetrail.com/VOL601.../107723388.jpg
I was tired of the P4 1.8 ghz, 512 mb ram, and 9600xt aiw. Wanted as much power as possible within my budget. Currently, it has cost me around $1200, but I still have a 3500+ and AN8-SLI mobo to sell to drop that cost down to something more like $900-$1000. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by alpha0ne
i've noticed the same thing myself. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by SnipingWaste
how about friend's running? dual sp2004 and watching the Taiwanese palm drama at the same time..:D
http://home.so-net.net.tw/anping168/sp2004ddr600.JPG
WOW, very very nice!Quote:
Originally Posted by Onepagebook
u got any idea wat week ur sticks are OPB?
im deciding on whether to go with week 50 or week 52 sticks.... or i could test em all :)
Edit: moved to a new thread so I'm not hijacking :)
:toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Onepagebook
looks like i have some work to do now, gotta catch up to you :p:
just out of curiosity, how much voltage was that?
Probably more than is healthy for the chips :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by ozzimark
sounds like 2.8v I think;)Quote:
Originally Posted by nn_step
Ok get ready.... This Micron Cronus should be in our hands b4 the end of the week. I Back-ordered my set with priority next day air from tank guys. If i'm lucky i'll have it thursday. I was told that all backorders would be filled and ship tomorrow or thursday. Keep am eye on inventory @ TankGuys. I think there might be some extras poppin up over there tomorrow.
Do u need active cooling with these? This is almost another month since u posted that, Do u still feel they are as solid as they were when u first got them?Quote:
Originally Posted by ozzimark
well, it's still micron. it's a lot cooler than my 512mb ballistix, but not cool enough to get away with not cooling em when pushing towards 300mhz.. plus, why not actively cool them? micron responds more to temperature than any other ic i've messed with :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by nugzo
as for the 2nd comment.. well, there's evidence how that is, right? just last week i finally hit 297mhz for sPI 32m and got 295mhz prime95 and game stable. no issues or quirks yet :D
Well just don't be that rush, there are 50 sets just head out in US from Taiwan yesterday, don't waste the $$ to the shipping company, as long as I am here, I promise you guyswill havew this for sure.
Time for playing some aenoen that someone just don't wanna tell the truth.;)
Heh heh nice :woot: You can do anything with dual core and 2GB huh. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Onepagebook
Hehe never a truer word spoken Eldonko, once you've used "2+2GB" theres no going back :fact: :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Eldonko
Its in stock at Tankguyz. I hope these are leftover stock after filling the pre-orders otherwise it would suck if thye oversold. I can't believe I am spending this much on ram. I must be going crazy.
I won't over sell :) Actually, I've marked less than there actually are, in case something happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
Good because i'm still pissed at Monarch for that 9week delay for shipping a 3800+X2 to meQuote:
Originally Posted by TankGuys
Can we expect the modules to get shipped out today then?
Hopefully yes. It's out of our hands though - they are shipping directly from Team. I didn't want to have them go to us first, then re-ship as that would cause huge delays for everyone. Our rep said they should ship today though, otherwise tomorrow. So it should be happening quick, but again, it's kind of out of our hands...Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
How is the availability in Europe?, that interests me. I will check trend4pc.deQuote:
Originally Posted by Onepagebook
hä do you mean TeamGroups? trend never had TeamGroup ramsQuote:
Originally Posted by kakaroto
only G.skill not even them in stock..
Hey ozzi!
My new rev Ballistix just came in today from Crucial RMA. They are the new .16TD1 rev stuff, any idea if these are still -5B D or the new "F" chips? I think it's still -5B D with a pcb revision. Anywho, I'll be testing these against the TeamXtreem PC4000 Micron -5B F I have on the way to me next week to see which overclocks best and which will be best for my 24/7 setup. I'll let you all know how that turns out next week when the TeamGroup arrives. :)
I think I might try a set of these myself.
Just ordered these at tankguyz! :slobber:
Thanks for que quick replies Ben :toast:
I just got sick of my G.skill being prime stable for 48hrs at 275 3-3-2-5 but 3d stable only at 249 and under :(
Let's hope these stix dont that have that stupid 3D "bug"
Quote:
Originally Posted by TankGuys
How is team shipping? i paid $40 for overnight by 10:00AM... I dont think that is possible from taiwan.