i' ve got a 1700+ jiugb who run at 2500 at 2.40V ....100% of stability :D
http://site.voila.fr/mokembo/1700.jpg
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i' ve got a 1700+ jiugb who run at 2500 at 2.40V ....100% of stability :D
http://site.voila.fr/mokembo/1700.jpg
I didn't say it sucked, what I ment was that i havn't seen any OCing of a "JIUGB" chip jet (havn't looked to hard...) and i don't want to buy one and found ot thats it's not good for Ocing.Quote:
Originally posted by HMB
Why does it suck? The stepping or? JIUCB is the worst of the J-breds i've heard, and JIUHB the best. But i dont think the difference between JIUGB and JIUHB is very large.
Think of the J-bred as the higher AIUGB and like steppings, AIUCB clocks worst of eg 2400+, AIUGB in the middle and AIUHB overclocks the best. I think the JIUGB clocks inbetween CB and HB, but i guess we will have to see, if my JIUGB chip wont clock well ill just buy an JIUHB, cheap mofos these are yes :toast:Quote:
Originally posted by Xizten
I didn't say it sucked, what I ment was that i havn't seen any OCing of a "JIUGB" chip jet (havn't looked to hard...) and i don't want to buy one and found ot thats it's not good for Ocing.
"À" steppings are better than "J" ( excluding JIUHB ), but it also depends on the first symbol on the upper right row - the most of the chips are "9" but there are also "4" ( like mine ) which clocks better....Quote:
Originally posted by HMB
Think of the J-bred as the higher AIUGB and like steppings, AIUCB clocks worst of eg 2400+, AIUGB in the middle and AIUHB overclocks the best. I think the JIUGB clocks inbetween CB and HB, but i guess we will have to see, if my JIUGB chip wont clock well ill just buy an JIUHB, cheap mofos these are yes :toast:
I see no reason to disagree with u, do the J-breds have the same "4" or "9"? Would be nice if we could compare a few cpu:s with different numbers (J-breds that is).Quote:
Originally posted by TodB
"À" steppings are better than "J" ( excluding JIUHB ), but it also depends on the first symbol on the upper right row - the most of the chips are "9" but there are also "4" ( like mine ) which clocks better....
Ok, I did some modifications on cooling (back with two pumps) unlocked that 13 mp.
And here it is:
3D mark 2k1
Score nothing special as my timing are too relaxed, also a Gf4 just mildly oc ;)
Here is another set of 2705 MHz benchmarks at 2.1V 15°C water.
Damn it, I need more power for chipset my I/O is at 3.2V and that does not help my mem oc. :D
Oh this is the first time I ran PiFast is that good ?
What all is relaxed in ur mem timings? That 3D score should be higher I think :(
I see the 2T, but that's it. :)
I was thinking cpu decode :), but I just saw that you used the same bios. Hmm, so something is not ok with score. 2t takes ~100 points, but you have much higher ddr clock, you have any score with same setting but lower clocks ?
Let me try few more things :)
you mean DDR as in my video card? ya, just realizing this lol.
have you burned in that corsair yet? I would think it could do 1T @ 208FSB.
I noticed in your 3DMark publication it says AMD Duron processor. :confused: What is up with that??? Ohh well, I think your score should be higher too, maybe a fresh install of everything would change that. Good luck though, and keep her goin. :)
Royal Oaks,
The ORB reads them as durons....look at my link in sig, same way.
morphling1,
I've got a new 1 to play with. Don't think it will be as great, but hey you never know :)
This is the one from Hong Kong...big thanks to DDTUNG & Hardass for getting it to me...just came in today & I just took it out of the package :D
N8, crank that sucker up! :D Although, I see it's a JIUCB, so as you say, may not oc as well. But it will be interesting to see!Quote:
Originally posted by N8
Royal Oaks,
The ORB reads them as durons....look at my link in sig, same way.
morphling1,
I've got a new 1 to play with. Don't think it will be as great, but hey you never know :)
This is the one from Hong Kong...big thanks to DDTUNG & Hardass for getting it to me...just came in today & I just took it out of the package :D
Hehe you got them comming from all over the world :)
But I doubt it will be something special first JUICB and then the cursed green color :D
I upped the ddr voltage a little so I can clock it to 700
Here is the new score at 13*200 2b01 bios cas2 2,5,2 1t
That's more like it, ddr oc. heleped a lot I'm practicaly at the same score even if my cpu is 105 MHz less and fsb 8 MHz less, 1t though.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5742684
Just to clear sometheng does 24/7 folding 3.1V counts as burn in, or is there some more specific program and method ?
Couple things.
Have you tried just booting to 200FSB rather than booting @ 179 & using SetFSB. I'm booting my machine right up w/ this BIOS as between it & the WPC tweaks I been using, I haven't noticed it helping any by booting @ 179 & raising FSB.
How did you get 13? Did you blow that bridge? :)
Have you been using 3.2v on the Corsair? It loves voltage. I used Sandra memory burn-in on my memory. I looped it overnight, all night long. Let me tell you how much of a difference it made. When I first fired this rig up w/ the 2B01, I couldn't only get thru 3DMark @ 205FSB. Now I am getting thru it @ 213FSB...ALL timings aggressive, so I would say the burn-in helped quite a bit ;)
Burn that memory in! Use sandra memory burnin-in looped overnight :D
N8
Your killing me here
:p
Waitin 4 your results
Got a friend going to a fair tomorrow so need as much additional info on steppings as much as possible.
So waitin on ya chip
Any feedback yet?
Cheers
;)
Aww hell :)
I ain't even put that 1 under the HSF yet. Wasn't gonna today...maybe I will for ya, give me a bit ;)
No haven't realy tried booting at 200 I'll do that, voltage checked, L3 checked :D sandra mem burn will do. I guess folding is not realy that memory intensive, just cpu rightQuote:
Originally posted by N8
Couple things.
Have you tried just booting to 200FSB rather than booting @ 179 & using SetFSB. I'm booting my machine right up w/ this BIOS as between it & the WPC tweaks I been using, I haven't noticed it helping any by booting @ 179 & raising FSB.
How did you get 13? Did you blow that bridge? :)
Have you been using 3.2v on the Corsair? It loves voltage. I used Sandra memory burn-in on my memory. I looped it overnight, all night long. Let me tell you how much of a difference it made. When I first fired this rig up w/ the 2B01, I couldn't only get thru 3DMark @ 205FSB. Now I am getting thru it @ 213FSB...ALL timings aggressive, so I would say the burn-in helped quite a bit ;)
Burn that memory in! Use sandra memory burnin-in looped overnight :D
I'll report back with results ;)
Yea that's what I'm sayin kinda weird. Ohh well, let me know how that 1700+ OC's, I am thinking of getting one of these from Newegg and testin it out. Also, I thought I read that you got 4 of these. ??? If so, which one is the best. I think so far the H is the best like everyone is saying, but I just wanna see if this is for sure. I might be ready to go with one of these real soon, and I would like to have a definite answer, or a consensus among the people here. :)Quote:
Originally posted by N8
Royal Oaks,
The ORB reads them as durons....look at my link in sig, same way.
Yeah, that's how I lost my other stick of Corsair :D.Quote:
Originally posted by N8
Burn that memory in! Use sandra memory burnin-in looped overnight :D
But better to find out that it's defective as soon as possible! ;)
THIS IS INSANE !!!!!
2805 MHz water cooled and benchable :D
I put my case on the window to chill my water with some cold air.
http://www2.arnes.si/~mlivak/Benchmarks/window.JPG
It was aprox -2°C outside so my water temps under load was:
http://www2.arnes.si/~mlivak/Benchma...ter%20temp.jpg
I bench in 3dmark, PCmark and sisoft sandra
Memory was very relaxed at cas2 3,6,3, 2t 2b01 bios, GF4 was at 330/660 so result are nothing special but the main thing is I finished them, if I'd have som kick ass memory that would handle agressive timings at that FSB and water cooling in GF4 results would be pretty high.
Here are the compare url's
For 3dmark
And PC mark
And here for iceing on the cake :D
O_O
Whoooooooooah!
Greeeeeeat job baby :D
Oh my eyes....!!! that is unbelievable... and to think I almost ordered one... I figured I could live with my 1600+ ... time to reconsider
REALLY INCREDIBLE!!! Imagine with prometeia, it's on the way for 3 ghz benched!!!
Argh.. must.. find.. JIUHB 0252 9..
ARGH! 2,8 Ghz??? Damn, GREAT CPU! :O
Morph ,
We hate you!:D
Is that @2.2 vcore?
Don't hate me, this is more the results of low temperature and good cooling, then cpu. Don't get me wrong this cpu is great no doubt about that, but highest end AMD cpus would work even better. And thats's at 2.15V, 2.2V was worse.
No I'm only waiting for some -10 or lower temps to get that 100% oc. even if only CPUID shoot :D
omg really nice oc you got there m8 :). /me wants JIUHB but i cant find it :(. Send me one ;)
If you can run at this setting then you can get to my oc. :D
Here:
i neeeeeeeed 1700+ jiuhb
Hey guys, I've been following this thread for a while and was wondering...
I've got an 8k5a2+ motherboard and a Radeon 9700pro. The 9700 limits my FSB to about 170mhz because the Radeon doesn't like high AGP frequency.
SO... even if I get a really good 1700+ I'd be limited to 2125mhz (12.5x170).
My buddy just did the wire mod to get the low multiplier with his 2400+ and 8k5a2+ ... would it be possible to do a wire mod to give the high multipliers?
That way I could get a 'good' 1700+ to run at 15x166 or 14x166.... just a thought.
R9700 is good for about 195-200 FSB on 8k3a which is almost the same as 8k5a, for unlocking you need to cut the last L3 bridge, and if you want to switch back you can do mobo trick and solder 100 ohm resistor to pin AJ27 and ground on socket A (back of the mobo), you can then make like a jumper to switch between up to 12.5 MP and above 12.5 MPs
I did just that
morphling1, go get urself some LN2 and spank that CPU to 3 ghz :]
:D
I realy don't care too much about those 30minutes or shorter tries. I'm interested only in something that I can keep stable 24/7 overclocked and stressed. And for me that's only water cooling or phase change. So my next project would be to combine this two methods with high efficency water chiller, because I realy like the idea of temp controled water chilling where every major heats source is cooled.
Also I find out I was also way off with my heat output calculations. I appologise to those I tried to persuade :)
I find the realy good html heat calcutor refreshed regulary from cpu spec sheets and practicaly tested in controled enviroment, definetly bookmark material, also don't forget that 88% of max heat output, because that is aprox. what the most stressful programs can load cpu.
http://www.benchtest.com/calc.html
So 2.7 GHz 2.2V outputs (88%) 135W which is very believable.
Of course we musn't forget to use the real Vcore because, when loading no Vcore will stay at bios settings.
Ur right about the LN2 thing, thoug i think it would be nice to be a owner of a AMD 1700+ @ 3.0+ ghz, 24/7 or 30 min, §§§§ the same, I think it's still s quite nice feeling :)Quote:
Originally posted by morphling1
:D
I realy don't care too much about those 30minutes or shorter tries. I'm interested only in something that I can keep stable 24/7 overclocked and stressed. And for me that's only water cooling or phase change. So my next project would be to combine this two methods with high efficency water chiller, because I realy like the idea of temp controled water chilling where every major heats source is cooled.
Also I find out I was also way off with my heat output calculations. I appologise to those I tried to persuade :)
I find the realy good html heat calcutor refreshed regulary from cpu spec sheets and practicaly tested in controled enviroment, definetly bookmark material, also don't forget that 88% of max heat output, because that is aprox. what the most stressful programs can load cpu.
http://www.benchtest.com/calc.html
So 2.7 GHz 2.2V outputs (88%) 135W which is very believable.
Of course we musn't forget to use the real Vcore because, when loading no Vcore will stay at bios settings.
I don't think that there is too many AMD chips out there that ever has been over 3.0 ghz.
Don't mention it ;)Quote:
Originally posted by morphling1
Also I find out I was also way off with my heat output calculations. I appologise to those I tried to persuade :)
I find the realy good html heat calcutorhttp://www.benchtest.com/calc.html
So 2.7 GHz 2.2V outputs (88%) 135W which is very believable.
Of course we musn't forget to use the real Vcore because, when loading no Vcore will stay at bios settings.
I thought that If I give ya that same link you'll see what was I talking about, but somehow forgot that thread and just came back to see what you've written :D :toast:
That's funny... both me and my buddy have a 8k5a2+. He has a AIW 9700pro and I have the 9700pro... both video cards chock on anything close to 75mhz AGP.
We are both using retail ATI cards... could this be the problem?
Quote:
Originally posted by morphling1
R9700 is good for about 195-200 FSB on 8k3a which is almost the same as 8k5a,
wish me luck guys !! ... a local store here just e-mailed me they now got JIUHB 0302 ..... ii would've bought 2 of those 0251s but i guess i'll try out 1 of these JIUHB 0302 first .
I earlyer calculate with the same formula as the benchtest site. So i don't see how you got 135W?Quote:
Originally posted by morphling1
:D
I realy don't care too much about those 30minutes or shorter tries. I'm interested only in something that I can keep stable 24/7 overclocked and stressed. And for me that's only water cooling or phase change. So my next project would be to combine this two methods with high efficency water chiller, because I realy like the idea of temp controled water chilling where every major heats source is cooled.
Also I find out I was also way off with my heat output calculations. I appologise to those I tried to persuade :)
I find the realy good html heat calcutor refreshed regulary from cpu spec sheets and practicaly tested in controled enviroment, definetly bookmark material, also don't forget that 88% of max heat output, because that is aprox. what the most stressful programs can load cpu.
http://www.benchtest.com/calc.html
So 2.7 GHz 2.2V outputs (88%) 135W which is very believable.
Of course we musn't forget to use the real Vcore because, when loading no Vcore will stay at bios settings.
The formula is
Overclocked Watts = Default Watts * (Overclocked Mhz \ Default Mhz) * (Overclocked Vcore \ Default Vcore)²
That would be...
59.8*(2700/1467)*(2.2/1.6)² = 208.0847Watts 100% and 88% = ~183Watts
AMD says the cpu radiates 59.8W max at defualt settings... old 1700+ Tbred A would radiate ~49W max.
So explaine yourself
Hmm, if you got an 2600+ then 135W(88%) would be right but we were talking about 1700+ here and then its not the same thing!
[edit] i have now started a own thread about wattage calculations http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...?threadid=8798 write some reponse
Tedi - are those 03's 9, 4, or Y's?
I am interested in one of them, or the store where you bought them from.. 8-)
i don't know yet .... i'll be getting them tomorrow ..... and uhh i live in the philippines. which is close to malaysia (AMD) and intel makes CPUs here as well. as far as i can tell the salesperson e-mailed me they already have the t-bred B JIUHB 0302 ..... i was looking for d 0251 that morphling has.
It will be interesting to see what 0302s do. Let us know asap!Quote:
Originally posted by tediber
i don't know yet .... i'll be getting them tomorrow ..... and uhh i live in the philippines. which is close to malaysia (AMD) and intel makes CPUs here as well. as far as i can tell the salesperson e-mailed me they already have the t-bred B JIUHB 0302 ..... i was looking for d 0251 that morphling has.
how can i know if my is Y, 9 or 4 ?
Look at the last CPU I posted a pic of...at the black label. It says AXDA1700DUT3C...to the right of that is a 9. That chip is a 9....though I'm not sure how critical this is :)
Edit: morphling1,
2.8GHz is amazing :)
You're so close to a 100% OC :D
I can't wait to get this thing under my waterblock now.....I hope its anything like urs ;)
http://www.noone.hpg.com.br/proc.JPG
Its 9, right?
How bad/good this is? anyone know?
crank it up so we'll know how JIUGB steppings do
Yeah, we really want to know, Lot's of people in Sweden wanting to know too!
Edit: When do I stop beeing a new member? ;)
9 means nothing to any1 who isn't guessing :)
JIUGB is interesting tho. Crank it up indeed :D
Edit:
I will try to test my JIUCB 0251 tonight. The other 4 1700+'s are scheduled to arrive tomorrow according to FedEx ;)
OliT: I've ordered 2 JIUGB:s in köttbulleland. Will have to see how high they go ;)
9's (like morphlings) seem to be doing good. There are 4's and Y's that are doing good, too, but 2.8ghz is near the top of the pile 8-)
From Overclockers.se?Quote:
Originally posted by HMB
OliT: I've ordered 2 JIUGB:s in köttbulleland. Will have to see how high they go ;)
Why didn't I wait like 3 days more, then I would have gotten a Jiugb, Just my luck...
i cant go too long.. my mobo is kt266a and here in brasil is too hot :) 38ºC is good enought ?
:D
Lets try when i buy my NF2
Looks like the JIUCB 0251 is good for 3DMark @ about 2240MHz, 1.95v. Priming @ 2205MHz right now...gonna leave that on overnight. Not as spectacular as the JIUHB 0252 for sure...but surely no slouch. The other 4 should get here tomorrow & then I will do some real testing :)
NoOne,
You need a KT333, KT400, or NF2 to get the most outta that chip! Or perhaps some better RAM? :D
here are my preliminary results of JIUHB 0302 (GREEN)
our weather here is probably similar to that of brazil (HOT) fortunately i do have airconditioning
will do 2.ghz at default Vcore 1.6volts (nice temps)
2.1ghz at 1.7vcore (i'll be happy with this as my daily settting very safe temps 49C idle 52C load)
2.3ghz at 1.9vcore
this is as far as i have tested using sandra and 3dmark ..... unfortunately my 512mb Geil DDR333 runs stable up to 200FSB passes any stress test but can't seem to pass prime95 (it only passes prime95 at 166FSB at low mem settings ...... sucks!)
my maze3 + blackIce pro just can't handle anything above 1.9Vcore ..... the heat starts to build up
morphling is correct to say he's amazing overclock is a combination of very good cooling and a good chip ...... very nice block morphling !!!
and another thing ..... vcore seems to be a bigger factor in CPU temps than the processor speed ...... i'm getting the same temps with the same Vcore from my XP1700+ T-bred A AIUGA as this JIUHB 0302 ....
same temps ..... for
T-bred A at 2.0ghz at 1.9vcore and
T-bred B at 2.3ghz at 1.9vcore
Sure, and at the moment, my PSU make my PC reset.Quote:
Originally posted by NoOne
Lets try when i buy my NF2
Tomorow i must receive my new 500w PSU.. and ill try more overclocks :banana:
I just read replyes from procooling fellas, they all recieved 1700+ A's looks like newegg is out B's. That's too bad
Man! Why can't I get that High, mine Refuses to go higher than 1937 Totally stable @1.7VQuote:
Originally posted by N8
Looks like the JIUCB 0251 is good for 3DMark @ about 2240MHz, 1.95v. Priming @ 2205MHz right now...gonna leave that on overnight. Not as spectacular as the JIUHB 0252 for sure...but surely no slouch. The other 4 should get here tomorrow & then I will do some real testing :)
I always have bad luck
:mad:
It seems like a power issue or something. Can you list your full system specs? I've seen chips that more voltage didn't help OC, but that was much higher than 1.7v. Either power or cooling is insufficient :)
My psu might not be the best, but the rails are ok: +5 = 4.97, +3.3=3.33 +12=12.20V Vcore = 1.71V, Cooling Is sufficient I'd say, SLK800, open case, Temp @ fulload 39C. Samsung PC2700, CTL-CB3 and DTM-CB3 (sucks bigtime, but I tried without it), Xp1700+ T-Bred B Jiucb 0251.
Msi KT3-Ultra-Aru. When coming near 2Ghz it bluescreens, not matter what settings I use.
Hi Olit,
What fsb u pushing there?
Have u tried reducing fsb and upping multiplier?
Yeah, sure I have, Right now running at: 168 Fsb, I tried using the 12.5 Multi to, but no difference.
ya what mult, fsb, vcore, & vdimm are you runnin?
Im gathering u aint got another rig there have you.
Even though everything looks like it should work fine maybe u will need to start eliminating which parts could be the culprit.
If u have other parts i would suggest replacing them and trying again, you need to determine if it is definatley the cpu holding you back.
Multi: 11.5 Right now
Fsb: ~168
Clock Spread Spectrum = Off
Vdimm = Standard
Vcore = 1.7
I don't see how anything could hold me back, It's all running at standard, since this is a KT333 mobo the dividers was activated at 166Mhz Fsb
Have you tried to set the vcore to its highest voltage whilst leaving the cpu speed @ default and then looking in your bios to check your voltage rails then.
We can then determine if the mobo is workin fine with higher voltages.
If you havnt i suggest u try that .
No, I haven't, I'll try that a bit later.
Dont know if you busy with stuff but i suggest u try that now
;)
Yeah, Running it right now. All rails looking perfectly stable, nothing seems to be wrong, Vcore @1.71
What the highest vcore you mobo goes to??
1.7 without doing the pinmod, It only let's me overvolt .1V
My other specs:
WD Caviar 80GB 8Mb Special Edition
Point Of View Ti4200 128Mb
3Com 3C905TX
Samsung 52X Cd-Rom
Using integrated audio
Memory by spd settings (most relaxed)
Also may be clutching at straws here but has your OS installation come under alot of stress with high fsb. The reason i ask this that if there is any corruption in the OS upon booting @ higher clock speeds this may be causing you to 'bluescreen'
I have suffered this before especially whilst hitting high fsb speeds. A new instalation solved this problem for me.
Yes, actually I reinstalled yesterday, SYSTEM was damaged. The "bluescreens" don't happen when I'm in windows, actually while booting, IRQ_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL, BAD_HARDWARE and so on.
Well im pretty sur we have found your problem dude.
You definatley need more voltage
:p
Unless you got more voltage to that CPU u aint going any higher. Sorry i couldnt break the news to you any easier.
I think your next post should be 'how do i voltage mod a Msi KT3-Ultra-Aru'
Anyway thats is my definate opinion. Your problem is you CPU is hungrey and needs more juice, feed it!
:D
Yeah, that has already been understood from my side ;) I knew it from the day I got the sweet thing.
I'd hafta agree....voltage is prolly ur problem @ this point :)
geez... heheh im getting one..
just one thing. .. waht r your core temps?
Luck just ran out ;)
Got my 4 in from Newegg, all JIUCB 0251's ;)
I'll check how they clock later, but I'm not optimistic :D
Still a lot better then those that got tbred A lately from newegg ;)
Are they running yet :)
I'm not home from work yet :)
My cousin IM'd me & told me they came so I got him to scan them in for me LoL ;)
I'll post them in a sec :D
LOL you couldn't wait ha. :D
haha, sure couldn't :)
Here they be...just the steppings, less file size. all green wafers:
I just got my green JIUHB 0251 '9'
Currently running prime95 at 1833 default voltage (1.60v).
I have a SLK800 w/36cfm 80mm... what voltage can I push through this chip?
pic here.
LBJGH,
Don't stop now :)
I'm working on the first chip up there right now. Man does it sure seem to love voltage. Clocks about the same as the other JIUCB I tested so far @ similar voltage, but is clocking higher w/ higher voltage. So far like 2310MHz @ 2.1v....I'll report back :)
Give me som loooove N8 :)
Anyone know were i can find som OC info about JIUGB?
LBJGH,
1.95v should be fine. If its stable, its fine...that's how I look at it anyway :)
Looks like 2320MHz was the max for the first chip in that pic...2.1v, more didn't help.
On to chip #2...running out of time for tonight :D
Well I'm up to 2GHz @ 1.70v...
time for some prime95
Well this is the top for Day 1.
100% on air (prime95)
http://members.rogers.com/lbjgh/mbm5.jpg
Since newegg seems to be drying up, I might be able to get some JIUHB's.. gonna have to wait a few days on a confirmation email, though. Order has yet to come in.
STEvil, the 0251 JUIHB's are doing the best of all 1700+s at the moment, based on the 1700+ database I'm trying to put together. Averaging 2224 based on 4 CPUs.Quote:
Originally posted by STEvil
Since newegg seems to be drying up, I might be able to get some JIUHB's.. gonna have to wait a few days on a confirmation email, though. Order has yet to come in.
In general, 0251s are averaging 2160 across 15 CPUs (comprised of JIUCB, JIUGB, and JIUHB)
I just ordered a 1700+ JIUHB, should be in before the weekend, so we'll see how it goes ;).
If I can get a JIUHB 0251 or better, I am happy.. 8-)
EDIT
wherefrom, KE??
Well, the 2nd JIUCB up there also liked voltage, but didn't clock as well as the 1st. Looks like 2250MHz @ 2.1v is the most she'll do 3D at. :)
Didn't get finished testing that last night till right before I had to leave & I didn't get home till late so I'm just now reporting ;)
Should have time after work today to test the other 2 :D
My 2 should arrive today, so hopefully I'll have some results later this evening.
Peace
WannaGoFast
GO wanna go! :D
I must get my new PSU today :D
If arrives today, ill post my results here :D
Tbread 1700+ JIUGB 0251..
I think a lot of you here think that psu is the problem. I just finished testing 5 psu, and 300W Enhance could easily run 2.5GHz cpu at 2.1V Toast loading for 1h sure the 5V line dropped to 4.6V but stability was never in quiestion. My old crappy maxpower PSU (cheap chinese stuff) also run everithing without problem. For me going to 380W Antec truepower didn't get me single MHz more. Only good thing is, that the rails are holding in +-3% area like they should, and the PSU is very silent, which is the main reason I bought it.
The only problem I had with PSU was with my old Macase 300W that I run my palo 1600+ at 2GHz 2.2V and one day it just died, but that one had combined power on 3.3 and 5 V line only 145W