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Originally Posted by ozzimark
Updated first page already, about the same with previously , just about the same performance but great stability imporved.;) It's all about the Driving& Data Sttrength adjustment. :toast:
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Originally Posted by ozzimark
Updated first page already, about the same with previously , just about the same performance but great stability imporved.;) It's all about the Driving& Data Sttrength adjustment. :toast:
it is very dangerous to buy this motherboard?
i need an expert or another slidr
my config 4400 x2@2.72 or 3200+@2.9
gbFF 2x512
enermax 660w
thanks for your help
i don't want to burn my processor
After playing around with this board, I kinda feel good a bit.;)
Pretty much just single defective case.:)
great to hear it.
well i wonder too, if it's "dangerous" to build up a system with this mobo or was it just "bad luck" (the cpu-killing thing)?
mfg
which means that much more time to play with ram, as there's a lot of options ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Onepagebook
i think this board has won me over now, just gotta get one to play around with :toast:
LOL....I did, but after he posted.... :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jort
Good to see the board's up and running....still waiting for mine this week ;)
Folks,
Sorry if I'm detracting from the main topic, but I'd like to know how OPB's CPU's died?
OPB are you using the sameboard which fried your CPU's or a brand new one? Also, in you first post, you mentioned about a high pitched noise as the voice of doom :D
How did you make that connection?
I understand there were some "circumstances" surrounding OPB's CPU issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by killingspreez
When you have a board that is not final and are using totally (really) beta BIOS these things can and will happen.
You want to play with beta stuff you had better be ready for the consequenses. Letting the world know about problems that will not exist in final boards just damages the reputation of some good hardware IMHO.
We have had these boards in OCZ hands for while with no such problems. ;)
Sorry for your lost CPU's OPB.
imo, the Expert is no longer in beta stage if i can buy it from a retailer ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by andyOCZ
andy don't say that, i bought my board at a official dealer.Quote:
Originally Posted by andyOCZ
DFI should keep there boards a little longer and put a real bios into it.
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Originally Posted by ozzimark
[sarcasm] And every game I buy is perfect and does not require any patches. [/sarcasm] It seems as of late there are any things sold that are still betas. :hehe:
heh, the video card and cpu side of things seem to be pretty solid. DFI has a past history with all of us with releasing awesome products that take about a week or two to clear up most of it's problems :D
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Originally Posted by andyOCZ
:rolleyes: So your saying that if you buy the board from a retailer in the first month or so,your essentially a guinea pig? Its the consumers fault for buying too soon? Thats just not right man. :nono:
Problem is from NF2 days DFI boards have had this beta feeling thru their entire lifespan.
IMHO I think its safe to use the board OPB was an isolated case.
Btw OPB what PSU were you using when this happened?
Okay now the guys who actually bought the board :P Did you get it from Monarch or where?
SO OPB/Tony for 2x1gb ballistix you suggest driving strength 11~15?
It is kind of the way the world works. It sucks but it just a fact. If you want to be first or fastest there are risk and issues. Have you ever bought a first year car? Always tons of recalls and issues Vs. the 2nd and 3rd year. My buddy just bought a 05 Mustang...had it two weeks and the radio died.Quote:
Originally Posted by man called (E)
No matter how much testing and QC no product can be 100% ready for the real world. It still does not mean that major issues should not have been found.....Also many times outside pressure forces things to be sold before they were ready. Management Vs Engineers. If you left it to the engineers they would not launch until every issue was found....so the product would never be ready. Management would launch a product the moment it ran...so that they could see the return on the investment. Many times management wins...
He just plugged in the CPU, turned on the system.... and the CPU was fried.Quote:
Originally Posted by Super Nade
No overclocking, no overvolting, no time for anything.... :(
You hit the nail on the head... RECALLS!! No computer manufacture AFAIK has ever recalled a motherboard due to the fact that it was a mistake. Look at the DFi ultra D NF3 board,there was,and still are issues with that board and DFi will take no responsibility for it. They simply just say "opps",and give the people a new revison 2 board. :slap: These companys need to be held to a certain amount of responsibility,just like any other consumer product. :poke:Quote:
Originally Posted by AACDIRECT
You guys need to read what I wrote. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by man called (E)
I heard from my sources that OPB had a PRE-RELEASE board, not a final one. This was my understanding, if I am wrong maybe he can straighten me out.
If you have a retail board then it's final and not in the same pre-release category.
As far as BIOS, you guys all know Oskar and the never ending beta BIOS program that he runs.
If someone with a retail board that has an issue then that would be news worthy. Also understand that Oskar and OPB are buddies, so who knows what BIOS he had and indeed he is a front line guinea pig.
If someone wants maximum reliabilty and a "mature" BIOS, then maybe an ASUS is what you want. No gurantess there either though. :)
Peace
In case anyone missed this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onepagebook
That may be true but he's not the only one with roasted CPU's on these new boards. And it's a very good bet that he's also not running high VDIMM with low vcore now either ;)
This I don't know. I only get feedback from the guys I know that had beta and now final boards. No dead CPU's that I heard of in my little world.Quote:
Originally Posted by G H Z
IMO it's best to wait and not buy the first run of any product if you want to be assured of relative safety. I do this with the cars that I buy. ;)
i hope there's a FAQ or tutorial on driving strength stuff soon
i'm gonna be using pc3700 ram on mine (gigaram mach1000), so if anyone's got any suggestions for settings to try...
Try cleaning it with alchohol if you got AS5 on anything. I thought I killed mine for sure going naked and even chipped the core but after pouring a bottle of alchohol to rinse the AS off of the little caps and reassembling, it worked. It was non bootable when I had it naked so I was sure it died.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gadflyii
OK EVERYONE LISTEN UP!
You know the saying when it rains, it pours? Well, it's pouring in OPB's apartment - literally. :rolleyes: Seems as if a fire broke out in an apartment in his complex on an upper floor and, luckily, the damage from the fire was contained by a quick-responding fire truck. UNLUCKILY, the fireman used so much water to extinguish this fire that it resulted in the flooding of OPB's apartment one of the lower levels. He has been informed by the lanlord and the authorities that his apartment will be uninahbitable for at least the night, and most likely a longer duration. He has no access to his personal belongings at the moment and won't be able to send out any cpu's (Mr. Lobber ;) ) until the electricity can be turned back on so he can rummage through his stuff. Obviously, there won't be any immediate updates to his testing. Hopefully the authorities will be quick in finishing up their investigation and get the whole complex back up and running........If there's any urgent need for anybody to contact OPB immediately, drop me a PM and I'll relay the message ;)
Good lord has he had some bad luck. Well I hope the water didn't get into his computer gear. Sorry to hear this OPB. Good luck.
My god... he's having a very unlucky time lately, poor OPB :( Sorry to hear this, hope everything will be alright..
OUCH! That sucks. This thread is bad luck...First it was "sorry about your bad chip/mobo",now its "sorry about your place almost burning down. :(
Holy Bananas !!! (since it will put them there anyway)
That is terrible....tell him we are glad he is alright Stephen.
Floods aren't supposed to happen in Ohio :(
yeah lock the thread b4 this gets any worse......
Whoaa, somebody's been doin' some voodoo on him :eek:
Man, feel for ya.
It's not just the water, it's the mold. The place is ruined as the landlord isn't going to do :banana::banana::banana::banana: to replace the drywall. He really needs to move now too.
I had a DFI NF3 kill 2 3400+ 1mb processors. Eventually a chip on the board smoked, but not before 2 of my CPUs did without that fault showing up. I'm probably getting an ASUS A8N32 due to my negative DFI experience. I'm sorry these guys lost some killer processors. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by zabomb4163
OMG, what rotten news. I hope all is well for OPB and everyone there.
Somebody needs to buy OPB's 4400 he's selling and help him out. I just bought a lot or I would.
god damn this is a bad string of luck! I hope nothing is severely damaged.
Good luck opb!
Hey Guys someone in contact with OPB Find out what his needs are for Computers whatever what can we do to help/// PM me or njkid32...
Wow...condolences OPB. I know what's like. I'm still rebuilding my life after the past few months
I know what's it's like when :banana::banana::banana::banana: keeps happening.
This is my 4th home this year due to circumstances beyond my control. I've lost a job due to my citizenship status. I've had my main car hit and run. I've had a huge amount of possesions (some of this stuff borrowed or prototyping) tossed out. And that just STARTS my list.
I hope you pull through it, it's tough.
renters insurance will take care of it hopefully, if he has some.
bad luck :(
I hope he can rma all his stuff
sorry to hear... :(
Hope everything is OK for you la, OPB.
HOLY :banana::banana::banana::banana: I feel for you OPB
hope everything's fine Kevin =/
fecking nora, hope nothin got toasted by all that water, would suck if all your pc gear got killed an you couldnt claim for any of it.
wait....maybe i shouldnt say that, might encourage the curse of this thread... :-S
OMG what a mess, looks like the devil keeps crapping on the same pile! :(
I really hope you're ok bro and that your luck will turn..SOON!
Hi OPB, where can I find your bios? My bios date is still 11/02/2005.... Is this the first bios?
thanks everyone here, I feel better now,
I do very serious apology that I brought all the hype and misery to you guys
I will do whatever I can do for the most.
I promise, I will get you guys working right on this board no matter what.:)
thank you all again for the warm concern Especially my Home country Memory manufacture Winbond and Team Group and also of course two of very nice menmtors Andy and Ryder from OCZ technology warm concern.
here are some pics I can do now.
redcross gift :p:
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/4...cross012ov.jpg
these were what I can grab during no electricity and can't see any.
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/7...cross024do.jpg
the comoputer I am temporary get it going is like that..
recently, I lost all of my cpus and included all hard drives ; wow I was gald that I grab the PC P&C 1kw.
now I am using OCZ 600wadjsli---->very good power. :)
http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/6822/hotel5jf.jpg
Welcome Back !
Things will be solved the best way :)
Can you get us the 11/11/05 Bios ?
yeah I want it badly!!!! :slobber:Quote:
Originally Posted by rcnike
Man talk about bad luck. Glad your are up and running. Red Cross gives out DFI Expert mobos.... :cool:
Hope the rest of your stuff is not too messed up.
Is there any bad about 11/02 bios?
Well I can't have Oskar's permission and just post that.
Once if I can, I always post at very first moment.:)
My Opteron 170 overclocks worse than when plugged into my old NF4-D. Used to be running at 2.7GHz @ 1.488V, but now not even @ 1.536V.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Onepagebook
Maybe, you tried ddr610 - 10/4 @ 11/02 bios ?
I tried 10~15 with level 4 and 1 and can't run 300*100, maybe bios dunno :confused:
The general consensus seems to be that you need to set the voltage higher in the BIOS compared to the other DFI boards. But at the same time, a lot of people who have set a higher voltage say their temps haven't been affected.....maybe the Expert has a thing for undervolting?
They did change the power system for the CPU, so I guess something was bound to be different.
As for me, the build is pretty much complete.....I was so relieved to hear the single beep and see a picture. :) Actually, it was the most drama-free build I've ever done. Everything worked on the first shot. :) By tonight I plan on having the OS and maybe a game installed and seeing what this thing's got in it. :banana:
guys you don't want the 11/11 as there have been later builds since then, this is just a test bios which had 2 fixes, some issues were still unresolved.
I will talk with Oskar ASAP and see if we can get a later build released on the DFI beta site for you. DFI have decided to no longer flood the net with beta builds due to some of the issues this caused in the past, so we do need to get permission now to release.
Tony
If you are running TCCD you want either 7 or 5 for drive strength, 9 and higher may over drive the dimmsQuote:
Originally Posted by rcnike
Nice Tony :D
Will be waiting for them :cool:
thanks Tony.
what about for Micron type IC?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
Welcome back dude. Glad your back so soon. Sorry that you have been having all of this rottne luck lately
I think I found the problem. My Geil One S don't work well on the Expert board..... After changing the ram to Gskill LA, no more reboot. But on the NF4-D, the Geil can do at least 320 with 2.9V, what's going on?
Not very lucky with my geil one s 2, what settings are you using ?
I tried dram/driving - 5/4 & 7/4 no luck yet.
I tried all slow timings. Actually when I set one of them other than "Auto", no boot at all.....Quote:
Originally Posted by rcnike
I, along with a few others, have found that our Opteron's Vcores (2 175's, a 148, and a 154 - all with high TDP's) jump significantly under load using non-Expert nF4's. In my case, I jump .05V on top of the .06V idle above CPUZ's display. So I am at .11V above CPUZ under load. The others mentioned above have similar results. So... you may have been using more Vcore than you thought, and now that things are being regulated better, it seems like you are doing worse, when in fact things may be the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by waiho2k1
Incidentally, it does not seem that 144/146's experience this (TDP=67W). Also, the owner of the 154 (OPB) has reported that the Expert solves this problem of Vcore spikes under load. I will be getting my Expert tomorrow, so I will report back (maybe this weekend) with my results. I will have the advantage of knowing exactly what Vcore I needed (via multimeter) to achieve a given clockspeed. This may help resolve the question of whether or not the Expert is simply worse with Opterons.
I don't come here so often, but just had to say sry about the incident OPB. Thank God your place didn't catch fire b/c my friend's did 2 months ago. Him, his wife, and his 2 kids have not had a house for a while now, and are living with family. It could have been worse! :D
In any case, I really (oh so badly) want to buy this expert board. The only thing that kept me from doing so was word of frying CPUs. If in fact the board that did that was a BETA, and not the ones that I can find at retail, then I would like to know ASAP.
If no retail boards have done the same, then I'm gonna buy one today. I have been running my opteron 144 CAB2E at 333x9 (3ghz) game stable at about 1.6v, but at my highest 1mb super PI clock (343HTT) I have to run 2.0x LDT. I cannot do 340+ HTT with the 2.5x LDT, and the 2.0x is a performance hit.
Since I'm limited to x9 multi, I need a board that can do at least 340-350HTT. Has the expert been doing that with ease?
It is very to good to know you are well. Getting your computer gear is very nice, but your health is the most important thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onepagebook
I hope you are OK until your apartment is ready for you.
Take care my friend.
For those who have Geil one se, there is nothing wrong with that, cuz the tccd screen shot I post is basically the samething as you guys,
Remember,
you might waana:
1. switch to Orange slot
2.label the stckers on each sticks and exchange the sticks to different slot
3. remember, this is completely new hardware updated board, so don't even recall the setting from old school nf4 series. You gotta find the best vdimm, driving & data Strength.
Welcome back OPB :) Good to see you again.
when you said you lost other computer components, did you mean they are permanently lost (fried & short circuited from all those water)? or.... just temporarily inaccessible? (they're okay but still in your apartment)
According to my test with BOINC Benchmark, cas1.0 was about 1% faster than cas2.0.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onepagebook
hey hey bro, I would say half and halfQuote:
Originally Posted by earthman
ex.
some hard drives, one ultra-D new board,3 pairs tccd, and one set of UTT have been in the water as I know.:(
opb that is so bad :( hope you can recover all your stuff
Hey thay might still work ;)
If they dry up it is not sure they died. You never know, and it is about time your luck should change!
are you insured ? :(
maybe with some users donations you cold get new replacements ! ;)
Thank you very buddy.I really really appreciate that.However, I don't know if my landlord would get me some reimbursement. Past has been past.Quote:
Originally Posted by Supertim0r
Let's get back to topic not to OT too much :p: :toast: I 'll remeber those who make warm concern to me about this misery. ;)
OPB
Dry that stuff off with a hair dryer, let it sit a few days and some of it might work as long as rust doesn't set it.
Hmm..that is interesting. Hope there was no setup faults i.e shorting or sweat of anticipation on the board? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Piotrsama
Any other ideas you guys would like to throw around?
Ouch OPB, I just read the whole thread and man you had some bad luck this week. Be glad your hardware is dead instead of you, I always think like that and smile :).
But i am sure you are off benching very quickly ;).
Stephen said it best when he said "when it rains it poors!"
Sorry to hear about the disaster OPB.
Just remember, it doesn't matter how much hardware you lost, what matters is you still have your health! :)
as long as they were not powered on when they were soaked, i think they are still OKAY!Quote:
Originally Posted by Onepagebook
hi kevin, jest see that thread man.
sorry for those lost cups of yours :stick:
i am so confuse, i can get the expert in a day or two, but the thing with the cup are scary.
if you have been following the thread, his case frankly was an isolated case. Tony's board seems to be doing pretty well!Quote:
Originally Posted by cupra
OPB,
Sorry to hear about your troubles. From one buckeye to another (grab a TV, OSU v. Michigan soon)
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Originally Posted by BenT
You missed me on the 10 tv and Nbc4 news last night;)
Sorry about your stuff OPB hope things work out.
No crap! That's what I get for working late ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Onepagebook
Drop me a line if you need anything. Maybe we can hang out at microcenter and make fun of people :nono:
Ben
OPB, I have been reading your posts for a while and only now I realize that you are a Buckeye too! It's my first year and I don't watch the news much but I haven't seen anything about a fire. Are you a student? Living off campus?
How about you bent?
I live in Morrill and I am currently out of a computer because my DFI NF4 SLI-DR died when I was testing my Opty 170. I just sent the RMA in today. I hope they replace it, but otherwise I guess I'd just buy one of these expert boards if I can find one. Either way I'm still bumming my roommate's laptop in the meantime.
Well I hope you are alright man! If I can help you in any way then contact me.
just like that FX that lost a few pins and clocked better afterwards :DQuote:
Originally Posted by SlackeR
Kev, i'm glad you're safe. what happened definitly does suck, but you're safe and not harmed, that's what's most important. however, you're right, the past is the past. nothing like a bit of overclocking and tweaking to put stuff out of your mind :toast:
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Originally Posted by jsriolo
I graduated from OSU in 98'. Oh, the good old days! lol
Glad you're doing okay OPB, I hooked mine up and listened for sound, no noise so I put in my 3700+ and my worst ram, and hooray, everything boots up fine. I'm trying to see how far I can Overclock my worst hardware now(cpu and memory), just as a fun exercise to learn my way around my first DFI board
from the prediction, then now I can show you guys this:
be notice then, the trtw can be 1 now up to 260 for sure.
driving &data strength: 8/4
updated at first page
http://img494.imageshack.us/img494/1...04pi32m9bl.jpg
Whoa, new FX-57 for you OPB again :D
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Originally Posted by mrlobber
That's the last one I have , originally need to sell to DUMO...
OPB, how many volts do you give to the ram?
3.17vQuote:
Originally Posted by waiho2k1
sorry about can't show the mbm5, cuz it looks like weird when I popped it up..
the vdimm became to 1.00...
Thanks! That's very good for BH-5 which can reach such high freq with 3.17V, I think I'll plug my BH-5 in as well tonight to see what will happen! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Onepagebook
Glad your safe Kev, sry to hear about all your troubles with the water damage. :(
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Originally Posted by waiho2k1
If your Opty 170 is good enough, you might not need 3.17v;)
@Dynasty,
Thank you very much bro. :toast:
Glad you back up and running OPB, shame abotu the Hardware you lost,and other personal items no doubt, youll get it back :)