As Rollo said, THIS is the card to get (GTX 512) and he get info before other people here it seems. But he havent said anything about the card you talking about.
I thought you wanted people to buy this card ? should they wait instead ?
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As Rollo said, THIS is the card to get (GTX 512) and he get info before other people here it seems. But he havent said anything about the card you talking about.
I thought you wanted people to buy this card ? should they wait instead ?
My advice... Buy the 512mb 7800GTX, EVGA brand. Preferrably in december, just to give you a full Q1 span for stepping up. Step-up will be your best friend if the timeframe I'm told is true. If the date I'm told is wrong, then you still have your card, at $50 - $100 less than they'll cost the day they release, and you're not waiting 6 months for a new card. Nobody loses anything. If stepping up won't be an option, well, have a buyer on hand....When all else fails, EBay is your friend.
I have a sinking feeling that NVidia's plan this round is to run ATi out of options. We know that ATi cannot release the R600 until late next year... period.
So, throw out the GTX and make them throw the R520. Throw the 512mb GTX and make them throw the R580... Then, go for the kill....
Rollo said this is the card to get for good reason, because the day it comes out the gate no competition will come close judging by overclocked scores of cards close to those levels. I cannot say that for sure though, I haven't had hands on time with the 512mb GTX. I'm pretty sure though that we all know the 512mb GTX will be a BEAST!
R580 Q1 ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
Besides, WFC about hardware that doesn´t exist, there will always be incoming hardware. If everyone waited for the best big deal to come, nobody would buy computers. Well as long as you get :banana: with a GF FX type fiasco you are good to go with any of the new gen cards.
OT: I did read something about GPU wars here:
http://omid.tomshardware.com/
Mad Money GPU's, its a good read.Quote:
Once ATI and Nvidia have all their console, handheld, motherboard, and add-in card partners firing on all cylinders, there is not much to differentiate them. That is until we get one more round of leapfrog, and the whole damn cycle starts again.
Exactly Juan, if a card has everything you need, buy it. If it doesn't, or you're close enough to the next launch, simply wait.
It's not rocket science... That's why you gotta love the step-up program. Have a new card now, get a newer card later, without losing the money you spent on the first card. Win-Win situation for everyone!
To bad we dont have anything like that in Sweden =(
Ouch, my condolences.
Just when I thought I'd order a X1800XT ;)
It doesn't look like the author of the article realizes that the design of the Xbox 360's GPU was sold to Microsoft, to be made by them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ubermann
EDIT: Eh, nevermind, that's not what matters.
No eVGA here in the UK either....aw well.. I should be able to last till G80...there's probably gonna be an awesome high end card...but I can't wait any longer.... :)
Yes you will :D :D :p: j/kQuote:
Originally Posted by Troman
Wow, that's a HUGE cooler. Is this a quiet solution? The fan seems to be big...
Damn i just get the money together to get a 7800GTX (now looking at 2) and they bring this out , damn i wish i didnt have 4 kids id have way more money to waste on hardware:P
lol...Nice 4 kids. :) Now how bout i find your e-mail address and send that last post to the wifey ;) lol...priorities !!!Quote:
damn i wish i didnt have 4 kids
Anyhoo, i see these entering retail channels for pre-order, so apparently these are very real. Though I'm surprised to reviews popped up yet.
Perkam
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ubermann
WTF ?? :confused:
ATI doesn't care they lost the R500 to M$, they make much more money with that deal anyway. Zero RMA, more chips are sold, etcetera. The high-end market isn't big at all, they make the most money by selling OEM cards and 90% of those cards aren't high-end.
I see the battle for the fastest card available more as a prestige object for both ATI and Nvidia. If the fastest card is made by Nvidia then all lower parts for the same price as the ATI counterparts should be better than those counterparts. It takes a while before the opinion if either ATI or Nvidia is best change because 70% of the people that buy retail cards from ATI don't go through all those reviews. ATI can afford to lose the performance crown for now. No way ATI is history because it is a few fps slower than Nvidia's counterpart.
The R3** core was always better than Nvidia's NV3* core and those were sold in large quantities too.
He isn't the only one. Please do a good search if you buy anything. Don't only look at fps and then make the decission which card you like most. Some people (including me) don't like Nvidia's image quality or are having unstable fps and/or mouse lag. Make sure to chose the card you like most. Only decide after you've taken everything into acount (including feedback from people that bought the 7800GTX already) and then decide which is best. Remember: still image doesn't say much about the image quality during gameplay.Quote:
Originally Posted by -R@mi-
ATI doesn't make one penny of the Xbox360 Alexio....they sold the design..no royalties...they only made money off selling the design. :)
That's why MS went with ATI..they had to pay royalties to nVidia on the Xbox....
Everyone says that's it's really quiet....Quadro reviewers say the same....so that's awesome (much better then the Vacuum-o-X850 style cooler)Quote:
Wow, that's a HUGE cooler. Is this a quiet solution? The fan seems to be big...
Rofl...I'm sure that no reviewer played with the cards, they just showed the screenshots ;)Quote:
He isn't the only one. Please do a good search if you buy anything. Don't only look at fps and then make the decission which card you like most. Some people (including me) don't like Nvidia's image quality or are having unstable fps and/or mouse lag. Make sure to chose the card you like most. Only decide after you've taken everything into acount (including feedback from people that bought the 7800GTX already) and then decide which is best. Remember: still image doesn't say much about the image quality during gameplay.
Well, I bet they still made more money with this than using the design themselves. Maybe they just sold the design because the computer market isn't ready yet for a unified shader architecture. It takes a lot of time before engines have been made to take advantage of this design. Xbox 360 games (atleast the good ones) are made specially to take advantage of this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim
Uhh i play with my card also but sorry for having my own opinion.Quote:
Rofl...I'm sure that no reviewer played with the cards, they just showed the screenshots
No problem...I have one too :) :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ubermann
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Originally Posted by DilTech
i just thought of something, it doesnt really seem like its that hard to get more mhz out of XT's, seems with better power circuits there could be alot more potential there... just thinking outloud here, but seems to me like ATI has a chance with the 520 core, 1800mhz memory, 700+ on core, XT PE anyone? that sure would give the GTX 512 a run for its money.
I don't think people will respond well to another Phantom Edition.... :p: j/kQuote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
ATi won't be able to push the ram that high, they didn't buy into the 1.1ns ram, they used 1.26ns. ATi are crazy, but surely not stupid. They can't afford to go testing those 1.26ns chips and hope for them to run stable at 1800mhz, that'd just cost them even MORE money on testing, as currently there's pretty much zero testing they have to do on the ram. They already spent too much money making the R520, they can't afford to go even higher considering the amount of R4xx chips that didn't sell and are likely going to end up being thrown away. It's in the double digit millions loss wise there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
They could do 700/1600, but I just can't see them trying higher than that on the ram. Time will tell though.
From what the rumours are.....550Mhz is easy on the new 512meg GTX....expect 800mhz+ on phase....if test samples made 800Mhz on air.....well....you don't have to be a genious to figure out a range of 3DMarks that you will get...
Anyway...I'd say let's all just wait and see...for all we know the 800Mhz was done on a 90nm core..and not on the 110nm....(not saying that it will be 90nm for those who read the sentence wrong) :)
Do we have any idea the power consumption of this thing? Looks brutal performance-wise, but a consideration is power usage, especially for those who plan to SLI it. If you need to buy a 600+watt ($250+) PSU just to run them, that's a price bump to consider. Sli 6800gt's run just dandy on my cheap fort 400, but I highly doubt this would as well
Where do you find that info ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim
I doubt the core will scale that high on 110nm...architectural limitations...And i doubt it'll be 90nm...otherwise it wouldn't need that cooler.
Perkam
The X1800 XT is 90nm and runs extremely hot. To go from 110nm to 90nm you have do make a lot of changes in the architecture.Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
It's not like 90nm uses 100 - (90 : 110 * 100) = 18% less power at the same frequency and vcore. It isn't that simple.
He made up half of what he said himself.
Not enough rumours ? Make your own ;)
JESUS guys......my english isn't great but where did I say it's gonna be 90nm???Quote:
Originally Posted by Ubermann
Sources told the Inq that it ran at 800Mhz (some test samples)
Now see what I wrote..
Maybe the Inq got fooled into thinking it was a 110nm core? Maybe it was just a test sample of an upcoming 90nm product (Q1)...TheInq got all excited thinking that it was this GFX was 110nm, the card that we expect.....geez. That's all I said. :slap:Quote:
for all we know the 800Mhz was done on a 90nm core..and not on the 110nm....(not saying that it will be 90nm for those who read the sentence wrong)
Let's all just wait and see how high the improved G70 core will go....
Should be higher then the XT and GTX I guess...but I'm no hardware expert... :)Quote:
Do we have any idea the power consumption of this thing? Looks brutal performance-wise, but a consideration is power usage, especially for those who plan to SLI it. If you need to buy a 600+watt ($250+) PSU just to run them, that's a price bump to consider. Sli 6800gt's run just dandy on my cheap fort 400, but I highly doubt this would as well
dito Tim said: for all we know
as in simply putting up a suggestion.
@Alexio
yeah to many people think that going from 110 to 90nm means the core uses less power.
simply look at Intel and AMD.
and for the 18% bit. In hardware 1+1 is rarely 2.
but usualy its hard to say how much power is saved when shrinking a die from 110 to 90nm cause usualy the companys also put in other power saving changes into the core with a die-shrink.
but eh does anyone have a chart of how much power the X1800 cards use in idle and under load compaired to the 7800 and x850?
but if the x1800 uses alot fo power while on 90nm that doesnt say the 7800 wil to if it wil b made on 90nm.
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Originally Posted by DilTech
since when does nvidia have access to different ram then ATi?
just becuse they use 1.26ns currently doesnt mean that they cant get 1.1ns, ati themselves said that this memory controller is very furture proof, so technically they could just switch out the ic and modify the bios.
but i wasnt talking about an overclocked X1800Xt, i was talking about an R520 based card with revised power circuits and 1.1ns ram. as i said earlier, seems like the core of this card is limited not by itself but by someother unknown factor, people are hitting a wall with them, and maybe ati did this deliberatley...
anyways, enough with my conspiracy theory, ati shows no signs of this occurence and certainly something would have been leaked if it were to happen.
http://graphics.tomshardware.com/gra...d_land-13.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by Starscream
as you can see, the x1800xt draws a LOT of power however the x1800xl isnt nearly as bad, drawing slightly less power than the 7800gtx.the x1800xt,s massive power draw has something to do with the high clocks i think...
shrinking a die doesnt really save power.
lowering the voltage does.
but since they always also increase the clockspeeds the power consumption rises again.
wrong...power is not a function of voltage in that changing the voltage doesn't make the system use more power....amps lower as voltage rises and vice versa...there is much more to this than playing with voltages... :nono:Quote:
Originally Posted by Der_KHAN
Whoa !!! I'm like, oh look its an informed member posting in the news for the first time....then I see...NO, its fcg with freaky matrix cat avatar lol...Quote:
Originally Posted by freecableguy
As for Tim and rumours, we generally have a greater tolerance of speculation than other sections, but yes Ubermann is right, backing up your statements with links or quotes helps your credibility while enhancing the discussion :)
Perkam
@Perkam
tim got them 800mhz from theinq
were they got them from no one seems to know although it would have been nice of them to put their source fo that in that article.
btw today si the 7th
isnt there supposed to be a launch today?
http://www.scan.co.uk/
the kock out thing.
my money is on the 7800GS today.
not the 7th here yet :P but there is supposed to be a launch tomorrow...i'm betting on the 7800GS as well :)
Then this 512mb GTX on the 14th.. :toast:
The X1800XT doesn't use much more power than the 7800GTX 256MB...Quote:
Originally Posted by RAMMAN
It has to do with faster RAM speeds (by nearly 50%!) and double the amount of RAM.
The 625mhz R520XT core, on the other hand, probably uses less power than the 430mhz G70 core.
:confused: The universe that you live in must be backwards. ;)
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Originally Posted by freecableguy
Well truthfully Grayskull Watts are a product of Volts x Amps so based upon the fact that most computer PSUs I have tested do not change amperage when you change voltage increase the voltage and leaving the amperage the same will result in more power becuase watts are a measure of work. However the card will not use more power unless a card parameter is changed(IE overclocking) becuase then you are looking at looking at a different unit of measure Watts per a unit of time.
cetainly, v x amps = watss. lower volts = lower watts = less total power.
drop the volts power consumption goes down, smaller proccesess need less volts to run higher speeds...
I really don't know how it all works but my guess is adding more voltage to a circuit is going to generate more heat somewhere, that extra power has to go somewhere as there is going to be more electrons trying to flow through the same circuit.
Volts/ohms=amps so would that not mean increasing voltage to a circuit would in turn net an increase in amperage which would simply be output as heat somewhere.
Kinda like increasing the voltage to a light bulb, resistance across the filiment is the same but increasing the voltage causes the filiment to burn brighter/hotter when electron flow is increased.
Nonono....amperage * voltage = wattage. Therefore lower volts != lower amps. A downward shift in one will cause the other to go up, however, at the same wattage. Since less voltage is needed with smaller processes, amps can go up with the same power envelope which means you can power more transistors. Or, with the exact same # of transistors, you can have reduced power.Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
OK back on topic.... it's the 7th and I see no 7800GTX 512MB...
next rumored date coming up is the 14th.
Shadow.....it's 7 CET in the fricking morning....and I still can't get a X1800XT :owned: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Shadowmage
Anyway.....patience.
7th isn't for the 512mb GTX, the 14th is shadow. The 7th we're all completely clueless about, we're *guessing* it's the 7800GS.
Now, stop with the flamebaiting. It's against the rules now you know.
:::edit:::
Shadow, here's the card...
6800GS
http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merch...ct_Code=190443
Signed and delievered, november 7th.
:owned:
That thing will have my 6800GT for breakfast!!! :eek:
for $230! :D :D :D
Not sure about that... 12pipes but 425mhz core... hrm... it'll be close.. looks like they found something to make the super extra marginal 7800GTX cores out of... ;)
WHOA... looks like something else new... a 512mb 6800GT?... er, maybe this is old... lol... news to me tho..
Yea the 512mb 6800GT is old...Quote:
Originally Posted by revenant
Edit: Yea, it's 12pipes....guess it aint gonna beat my 6800GT? I paid $500 for that card :D Now you can have similar performance with $230, crazy
The 512mb GT has been around for awhile, but the 6800GS is definitely new. There's not even any reviews out on it yet.
As for the 12 pipes at 425 core, that's IDENTICAL to the 6800ultra go, the mobile 6800ultra. It *should* maul a stock 6800gt with ease.
Also, IIRC, the NV42 it's based off of is 110nm instead of 130, so it should clock higher too.
:::edit:::
Yep, it's the 6800GS
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=27493
Launched today, already up for sale at monarchcomputers, and surely will be at other stores too before the end of the day.
I *LOVE* NVidia's new launch policy this year!
the one i found in a webshop near home is 10 euro cheaper then a real 6800GT :stick: so price wil have to drop a bit.
was hoping for the 7800GS.
but maybe they aint launching the 7800GS til theyve dumped their NV40/NV42 cores.
read it here: http://www.theinq.net/?article=27492
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NVIDIA'S flagship Geforce 7800 GTX card with 512 MB is expected next Monday the 14th of November,and we have some pricing details about how many greenbacks this card will cost.
Nvidia has priced this card at high as $649. A new card working at 550MHz core and 1700+ for the memory will certainly be a faster option than X1800XT 512 MB card but will cost you exactly $100 more than the $549, the suggested retail price of the Radeon X1800XT.
But, is that MSRP or final retail (after prices settle)???
MSRP it seems, and looking at GTX and GT hard launches the (final) retail price will probably start dropping real soon (after release), while it doesn't seem to be exactly the same with the X1800XT (it's not even available in Sweden, where I live, for another months or so, while GTX was en masse at launch day!). Things are starting to look real interesting.
(nVidia only determines MSRP, nothing else.)Quote:
Nvidia has priced this card at high as $649.
On the expensive side, but I'm still getting one :D :D
Prices will probably drop pretty fast in the first 2 weeks :)
I think they will still launcht the 7800GS this month.... :)
Not surprising really, 512mb of memory running at over 1700mhz, ain't gonna be cheap, still stupid prices IMO.
How much does it cost Nvidia to make each one? If it's anywhere near that ill eat my own arm. :rolleyes:
bah, ill be damned if it costs them more than 10 dollars to make each card.
lol... Here in Sweden the gtx 512 costs over 1000 US dollars so far.
It better perform better then 2X7800GT at that price.
God! the price here in sweden really is :shock2:
LeadTek Geforce 7800GTX Extreme, 512MB DDR3, TV-Out, 2*DVI, HDTV, VIVO, 16X PCIe [Limited Edition]
Limited ? Now i understand what Rollo means with "lucky enough to get one"
Win the reviews and fade out ?
if that was true than there would be no point in buying "Low-Voltage" and "Ultra Low-Voltage" processors.Quote:
Originally Posted by freecableguy
but just to make sure that u get my point: [edit]deleted for the sake of getting back on topic :D[/edit]
wow...that would suck...but I think they will have enough (crosses fingers :p:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ubermann
Well you have to realize the 7800GTX msrp is $599, so we are paying only $50 more for the much better 512MB GTX. Also take into account that the GTX's are $460-$500, so I would say that the 512's end up being $50-$60 more than that.
But if this card is limited then i dont see price dropping.
Maybe its only Leaktek that is limited.
I'd say prices will be much much lower by the end of the month....especially if availability is high :)
Hmm...I'm really wondering what this card will do....probably insanely fast... :D
If i could afford it i would buy one, but i dont =(
First good clocker to get them will take down the ORB.
Tim sure has it on for this card :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Tim
Post Edited, Can't use that Language - Perkam
Ow man it's horrible....I have been waiting for so long (on X1800XT or higher end nVidia part...)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheik
Since June..... :eek: I want a new card soooo badly...it's gonna be cooled with a Maze4 :D
The price of video cards is stupid, espeically when my 400pound GTX can't run COD2 how i want it to, and wasn't exactly fast in FEAR.
In the good old days, the Geforce 2 Ultra, was like 250-300quid max as the flagship, same with the Ti4600, etc. Getting close to 500quid for a video card is pathetic, and it's a complete con.
Go for it man ... YOU ONLY LIVE ONCE :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Tim
If it's that much in dollars I shudder to think what I'll cost over here :mad:
Looks like I am getting 2
better get me 4
That avvy is awesome mate....Laser Mittens :D
It's gonna be awfully expensive here in the uk though.....maybe 470 Pounds? Who knows :p:
Meow...what bout those GTXs with quadro hsfs ?Quote:
better get me 4
:confused: Here today, gone tomorrow ?? lol
Will be interesting to see how this performance...considering higher clocked XTs will take another month to arrive by partners :shakes:
Perkam
Hell at that price I'll probably have to hire someone to handle it for me so I dont accidently break it, thats alot of damn money... but I still have to get it.
Tim has been waiting patiently for a new card, his original plan was to buy a X1800XT, but ATi has simply made him wait entirely too long. Now, NVidia show him this, can you blame him for jumping for joy at it?
Personally, I'm even plannin on getting one(evga for the step up plan, probably in december to cover me for Q1). considering I've been working ATLEAST 12 hours a day, DAILY, and owe myself a VERY nice christmas present. This should make the season jolly, no?
As for $649, I agree that's a bit steep, but beats the $699 alot of etailers want for the x1800xt(like ZZF). I won't pay that much regardless, if I snag one it'd have to be $549 or less.
You think $699 is much for an X1800XT ? Is there more then 1 store that want that price ?Quote:
Originally Posted by DilTech
Then the $1000 for the GTX 512 in sweden is horrible.
We havent seen the prices in US yet, i dont expect it to be just $649 first weeks but i may be wrong.
zip zoom fly and allstarshop both want $699 last time I checked. There's others too, I just don't have time to google for them.
As for the $649, I agree that's very steep. As for $1000 in sweden, all i can say is ouch, perhaps wait til it actually comes out and see what the price ends up. I get the feeling they're trying to get those "gotta be first" pre-orderers to pay an arm and a leg.
Hey dil, you had 512 posts when you posted that last post ... Jinx !!
Also, when XT's come in quantities, it'll come back down real quick. PPl have already bought them from Newegg for $599, so price gouging is still pretty rare.
And it would be too optimistic for us not to expect pricegouging on something that has an msrp of $50 more ;)
$749 for your 512MB GTX anyone ? ;)
Perkam
Eh, there wasn't any price gouging on the 7800gtx 256 perkam, or the 7800gt for that matter.
It's hard to price gouge a product that every store has ample supply of.
We dont know how many every store gets yet.
Anything can happen even if they done really really good lately.
I soon start bashing ATi myself for lack of cards =)
The other thing to note, when it comes to price gouging, the 6800gs launched at under MSRP as well(msrp is $249).
Like em or not, you can't help but be impressed with the new way NVidia does launches now. Doesn't matter what "team" you prefer.
I have been seeing some good OC number for the GS card.. wow... 500+ core speeds... 1200+ memory... the memory is the same as a stock 6800GT.. 2ns modules... nothing special.. but still and all. this is quite a card for the sub $200 range. wow. These are likely GTX cores which would not even make the 7800GT cut.. must be part of the "no wafers go unused" policy at Nvidia. heh.. ;)
$229 for the GS at Monarch :DQuote:
Originally Posted by DilTech
Seems like one will release core at 590mhz, wonder if anyone will go 600 or above.
Diltech its EVGA that might have that core speed =)
Geez....590Mhz is nuts.....no..make that insane.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ubermann
I have the rig setup...waiting for GFX... :D :D
About the MSRP...I wouldn't worry about it....the GS is 6800GS is $249 and Newegg lists them as $209.....I'd say could be lower...but it's a different animal ofcourse....all will depent on availability....
yeah i think im gonna wait and see if evga releases a KO version with the core over 600 .. i bet most companies like BFG and leadtek will have versions where the core speed is like 580-590
I advise the EVGA card to anyone who can use the step up program, just so you're covered for Q1 2k6, regardless of who has the best "stock clocks".
Yeeeeikes. talk about sucking hot air off the back of another card... Seems like a tighter fit than the 6800Ultras were... these stock HSFs will be lovin the 2 slot gap sli boards... or water blocks :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim
IIRC, that heatsink pulls the air from the side of the card that the power cable is on, runs it thru, and exhausts it out the back of the case... It doesn't pull the air thru the fan.
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Originally Posted by Vapor
this is what i meant, i must be dislexic or something. :slap:
the difrence is some stores got smal supplies of the X1800XT and already started price gouging by upping the asking price alot.
some stores are price gouging on a card that isnt even launched yet and whos specs arent even 100% set yet (7800GTX512).
when the 14th is there and if we see an other hardlaunch then we will see the pirces drop hard and those people that actualy paid 1000 dollars for that card to reserve it wel they wil go mental.
simply forget the prices some stores are atm asking for the 512Mb GTX and wait for the 14th the launchdate.
I definitely agree... :)Quote:
simply forget the prices some stores are atm asking for the 512Mb GTX and wait for the 14th the launchdate.
Not too long now :D
Ahh! that's a good thing... I just saw the open top with the blades and assumed that was the intake, and the exhaust was on both ends..Quote:
Originally Posted by DilTech
1 week away until the first ever "2 cards in 7 days" hard launch!...
Never thought about it that way..... :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by DilTech
Anyway...I really hope they don't mess up the launch....what will happen if they pull it off? I can't imagine.
History books...I can tell you that......
ATI will be :owned: j/kQuote:
Originally Posted by Tim
a small passage in a history book no one will ever read.
i think if the the 14th the next card is hardlaunched u should really wait a week or 2 and sit on ur wallet cause i think prices will drop a few bucks a day.
So I was checking the EVGA forums and came across a thread where an EVGA moderator was making som interesting statements....
"Also, I have not seen the actual Card or it's spec sheets, but I have it on good authority that the 7800 GTX512 will have a Newer Tweaked PCB Board, a 512 Bit interface, 512MB's of Samsung 1.1ns GDDR3 RAM with a 900MHz Frequency with 1.8GBps Maximum Data Rate. The Speculation is that this GPU may be based on 110nm or that it could actually be the new 90nm Dice(G71) with 7800 architecture which has 24 Pixel Pipes, 16 ROPS, and 8 Vertex Shader. We know that Nvidia has been quitly tapping out 90nm cores for some time now. Yet again, this is only speculation. We will find out for sure when either someone leaks a picture, of a "naked" GTX512 with its Heatsink and Fan Assy removed, or We will find out when the NDA is lifted on the GTX512 Luanch Day which is now tentativly November 14th.JKohl
BTW according to the Newegg website the ATI X1800XT has only a 256 Bit Interface for its 512MB 1.2ns GDDR3 Memory."
See here...
http://www.evga.com/Community/messag...30&whichpage=3
Quite interesting comments if he is in the know.... and he has already pretty much confirmed the release date and even model versions (waterblock "black pearl" version on its way etc.). As for price he never mentions anything below 600-650 and says it will be high. Just thought this was an interesting read...
D