I just plugged in my 170 and at stock speed I can run 1 super pi on either core, but two together makes one fail. I was under the impression that you were supposed to run two things at once to test stability, so what am I doing wrong here?
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I just plugged in my 170 and at stock speed I can run 1 super pi on either core, but two together makes one fail. I was under the impression that you were supposed to run two things at once to test stability, so what am I doing wrong here?
make two diff install directories of superpi, and run the different exe's.Quote:
Originally Posted by jsriolo
My 170 did............Quote:
Originally Posted by periquitos
my 165 heatsink came with the one w/ heatpipes as well..
anyone know how much I could sell these for?
0534 SPMW here as well, does anybody know how to make a bootable cd for flashing bios that could explain it to a mentally challenged person?
Stick it on your Northbridge :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by demenion
~15-20usdQuote:
Originally Posted by demenion
http://www.bootdisk.com/txtfiles/flashcd.txtQuote:
Originally Posted by socrilles
http://www.bootdisk.com/
It's like the stepping that I have but it's a 170. I'm running double prime on it now (10x280) on air and I'm at 49-50c. I'll run it for two hours and will post the shots later tonight and then will let it run overnight. Wife didn't let me do it last night!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthOverlord
Now I've got a questions if you don't mind telling me :)
I'm doing this on my gaming rig which has all drivers installed and all 8 USB ports connected. I've got pretty much everything installed on this machine and I was curious to know if it actually affects my OC'ing.
Right now my goal is 2.7, but I will be happy with 2.5 and up. I know the eVGA are limited in their overclockability. I still can't believe I did not see this Opteron thread the week before when I ordered a Venice A64 3000. Now I have to ebay it!
from anandtech:
Also on a more interesting note; I must have tried 20+ vendors to find one with the 165 in stock for a reasonable price. I had several vendors tell me the item was discontinued. So I called the AMD Technical Service Center at 408-749-3060 (hit 0 then a couple of * to get out of voicemail & to a human).
The first call, the woman who answered said they were a current product but when she went to find out more info & my suck A%^ Verizon cell service dropped the call. I called back & got another person who checked and after 5-6 minutes on hold I was told the 165 has officially been discontinued.
That doesn't say that there aren't stocks of 165 to be had but new ones aren't happening anymore.
This has a high degree of suckability...
MM
Wow, that was unexpected :confused:
Glad I got my CCBWE 0534 from monarch, I almost waited
My Dual Core Opteron 165 just came in the mail at around 2:30 this afternoon, and I have been working on it ever since. It is a CCBWE 0541RPMW stepping. My max stable OC (based on 2x prime95) without using CPU VID special control to raise the voltage is: 2.55GHz @ 1.525v. I am using a 283MHz HTT with a 9x multiplier. I would have liked more, but this is by no means bad. I am sure I could have hit 2.6GHz if I raised the voltage to 1.575 or 1.6v, but I have insufficient cooling for that, and this chip runs on the hot side (50c load w/ OC). This does overclock more than my 3700+ San Diego did, my sandy would only hit 2.7GHz (2.2 stock), where as this hits 2.55 (1.8 stock) The sandy was a 500MHz overclock and this is a 750MHz overclock.
I actually got the email from Monarch telling me they were out of stock and they would fill my order later in the month. I called them and the CSR was nice enough to tell me they had some stock in the warehouse and he would make sure my order was shipped.
Thank God, I called and thank God for the nice CSR.
This is what I was talking about in the "buy your opty's now thread"...Quote:
Originally Posted by socrilles
I am testing my 170 and I am now at 280x10 with 1.32v... Yes, that is stock. It's stable so far and still going!
I can't run 280x10 unless I feed it 1.55v. What am I doing wrong?Quote:
Originally Posted by jsriolo
The 165s have been discontinued? Why?? Is there a problem with them? Good thing I got mine when I did... It just got here today...
prob same reason 256mb 6600gt's were discontinuted
Yeah... I was chugging along at 2.95 and trying for 3 whem all of the sudden it crashed on startup and would no longer boot. I was starting to hit diminishig return around 1.5v so I was sure I didn't fry it, but I was still pretty scared of what could have happened. My DFI shows dram power and standby with the LED's but when I hit power the fans hardly torque and it's off. I put my old venice back in and still the same thing. I tried resetting the bios, using 1 stick or ram, and just about everything else I could think of. Any tips? What did I break?
Mabey the board died, not the CPU?
Anyone know if the 0530's still coming out from Monarch? OEM or retail?
The first thought I had was that I killed the CPU. Then, once I replaced it I thought it might be the board. I am still getting standby LEDs and everything does 'blink' on for a second so I'm not sure. Too bad I don't have another one to switch it out with.
Did you disconnect the PSU, flipped the CMOS jumper after you pulled the battery and then push "on" switch a few times? Do that once see if it helps.Quote:
Originally Posted by jsriolo
Yeah I got one, give up on 3.0 on air....... :nono: It's probably (hopefully) the board. I really do sympathize with you and I wouldn't wish this on anyone, but I gotta tell ya, reading your post was "funny sh!zzzT". :p: :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by jsriolo
Once again, sorry to hear it, hope you're not offended.........
Well, The CPU isn't dead! I went down the hall (undergrad @ OSU, ohio that is) and popped it in a friends computer. The 170 still works fine. On the other hand, I tried unplugging everything, resetting the cmos, and hittin the power button. Nada once I got it back together.
And BTW, At 2.9ghz my load temps were 42C. The first time I upped the voltage was 2.85ghz. If 3ghz isn't attainable then it is going to be damn close.
Were you able to prime it at 2.85?Quote:
Originally Posted by jsriolo
2.85 was prime stable. 2.9 was also. I didn't do a lot of testing at 2.95 but I got it pretty stable and decided to shoot for 3.0 when the :banana::banana::banana::banana: hit the fan.
Well i guess it is better that your CPU isn't dead.. If you're looking for a quick replacement for your DFI Board newegg has em on sale for $115 shipped.. (10 hr special) great deal
Mobo or Power Supply
Maybe... Ram?
Try ram and power supply, you should be able to get those parts easy...
Is anyone getting the 165 boxed version from Monarch? So did thery have to stock or not? I ordered and I am waiting since Monarch will charge 15% fee for their error.
My Opty 165 CCBWE 0534SPMW out of the box @ 2916ghz. Water Cool. Priming right now and still going :) Have to pump Vcore by .05 to prime stable.
http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/1...16529165hj.jpg
http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/2...16prime5fk.jpg
Holy moly...
These duallys are coming out even better than CABNE. The fact that they are dual cores and not single makes them even better!
Mine's not hitting those speeds. I need more voltage, but for that I need better cooling, this chip runs hot:
http://img475.imageshack.us/img475/4...ults9jn.th.jpg
It's a CCBWE 0541. BTW, why does CPUz say it's a Toledo core? I thought it was a Denmark core... ?
They're out at this moment. I could only find them at excaliberpc.com http://www.excaliberpc.com/AMD_Opter...id-560157.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by MonkSP
On air or water? Mine gets pretty hot when I double prime it at 2700 and scary hot at 2833. I'm on air though.Quote:
Originally Posted by jsriolo
Got one in the UK :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: AMD Opteron 175, 2.2GHz
http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?sku=313938&cks=SER if u want one in the Uk u better be quick they only have 12 left in in 165 , 170 ,175
Time to see what this Neo makes off it b4 I upgrade to NF4 - prob asus A8N32
so your load temps are 33C with 1.58v on CPU.........wish i lived on north poleQuote:
Originally Posted by nop
Think you could have the same load temp as mine since I'm also in Sydney. :D May be it's because my Opty is "naked" ? :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by nop
Bought an 170... what to expect from the boxed hsf? lot better than the 148 boxed hsf?
I think you toasted the board, as these dualcores stress this board to the max. Make sure to watch the PWMIC Temp, mine is at 54C right dual Prime95 Small FT's. My old Opteron and venice cores never got close to that temp. Check case flow when you get your new board.Quote:
Originally Posted by 003
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Originally Posted by QettoE
thanks dude, ive been looking for a 165 in stock :toast:
I wasnt aware they were in CA, so i got nailed for sales tax. However, with 2 day shipping and tax, it was $364... about the same price everywhere else.
SubTotal: $325.00
Shipping & Handling (2 Day Air Shipping (2 business days)): $8.80 Sales Tax: $28.44
Insurance: $2.00
Total: $364.24
Anyone know if the 0530 week is still being shipped out from the OEM 170s from Monarch?
I bought mine from them. I paid at 1:00PM CT and they shipped the same day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Haltech
I ordered an OEM and a retail 170 today from them for a client of mine, and hopefully if either one turn out to be 0530 then I'll keep it. I had them shipped 2nd day and they should arrive Tuesday.Quote:
Originally Posted by demenion
364? ouch.. you coulda got a 170 oem for that.. or retail 170 for $30 more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Haltech
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Originally Posted by bmac11
Not shipped i wouldnt...
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/DeepSearc...170&ALL=y&TP=1Quote:
Originally Posted by Haltech
http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merch...ch=opteron+170
Sub Total $395.00Quote:
Originally Posted by Ender17
Shipping & Handling Calculator $5.74
Sales Tax (Orange County, CA - 7.75%) $30.61
Total $431.35
Probably not. My 165 which I got on thursday is a week 0541, it OCs to 2.5GHz stable with 1.525v. Not as good an overclock as some of you other guys, but its better than my 3700+ sandy did, I could only OC it to 2.7GHz from 2.2 stock, and this 165 goes from 1.8 to 2.5. A 700MHz OC vs. a 500MHz oc.Quote:
Originally Posted by demenion
Monarch shouldn't charge you taxQuote:
Originally Posted by Haltech
they can if you live in a state where tax is required. soon more states will charge tax on online stuff its all just a mater of time before the tax free items are all gone....
peace perc,
not in the good state of delaware ;) no tax here!
Can any of you post what steppings are coming from Newegg?
my opty 170...is doing dual prime at 2.6 ..havent tried further yet.
I've got an Opteron 170 coming from Newegg, should be here early next week. However, I was gonna pop that baby into my new SLI-DR eXpert board, coming early next week too, but with all the procs getting toasted on that board I'm starting to get leary.
If all goes well, then next week I'll be OCing and comparing the 3500+, Opteron 146, and Opteron 170 with 1GB Ballistix Tracer and 1GB Geil One (see which clocks better) on the eXpert board. Then, whichever sucks most, I'll probably sell!
If that eXpert board doesn't kill my procs, expect a long comparison thread in a week or so.
--Nathan
The Zalman 9500 is a four way cooler. Read more here.Quote:
Originally Posted by QettoE
pls post some screenshots guys when you talk about your OCing so far and include some temp and volt monitoring along with A64Tweaker shot :toast:
Hi all. I have a request for anyone using a Dual Core that has a multimeter. I noticed that while CPUZ reported my Vcore as 1.552V, my actual idle Vcore meaured by a DMM was 1.609V. Disturbingly, I found that it jumped to 1.659V under load! This is nearly .11V greater than reported by software monitoring programs! We know these DFI boards underreport voltages in Windows, but this discrepency approaches dangerous levels.
If anyone could check their idle/load Vcore's (as well as reporting VID and VID multiplier from BIOS), I would be extremely appreciative. We need to find out if this is isolated to my rig or is endemic to Dual Cores generally.
For more info, see here. Thanks for your help.
They charge tax if you are in the same state that they have a retail store in.
holy crap, that voltage error really scares me. maybe its time for that new asus with the 8-phase power... any way, whats my best bet now? 165 from excalibur or 170 from mwave? is the 165 really discontinued?
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Originally Posted by Mats
Wow... I appreciate it buddy. :banana:
OK, I am getting this board on Monday and am going to run an Opty 165. I assume it will be safe to run this board at stock voltage or is even stock voltage not accurate?Quote:
Originally Posted by ixtapalapaquetl
20 hr Dual Prime stable on my 165 (no IHS)
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/8172/27003lz.th.jpg
I am still waiting for more users to confirm that this problem is not isolated to just my rig. However, initial reports support the theory that Opterons with high TDP's (like Dual Cores at 110W, 152/154 at 104W, and quite possibly 148/150 at 85.3W) will experience a .05V jump in Vcore under load that will not be reported by MBM, CPUZ, SpeedFan, or even OCCT (which uses one of the aforementioned for its monitoring).Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthOverlord
So what is safe? That is question for you to answer. In the absence of a multimeter, conservatively add .11V to your software-reported Vcore to be safe. At stock, that is surely safe. I would (and am) willing to go as high as 1.54 in CPUZ, but I am fairly aggressive. It should also be noted that while this problem has been confirmed in both DFI Crossfires and regular nF4's, it is NOT a problem with the Expert board (thanks OPPAINTER - I just ordered mine literally 10 minutes ago!) Watch your temps, and if your rig gets crashy or freezy, you should back off quick. I will keep you posted...
Received my 165 OPTY yesterday, I am pretty n00by compared too some of you guys when it comes to OC'ing.
Currently 306x9 on my CPU with 1.55V put in bios, says 1.504V in CPU-Z.
Have run dual SuperPi 32MB without any problem. Nothing over 2.75Ghz is stable, mostly I get bluescreens before i come into windows at 2.85GHz and higher. I've read that it's somewhat tricky too OC the OPTY's with memory settings. I also had to mount a 120mm fan over the PWMIC area due to extreme heat, lol, highesst measured was 68 degrees Celsius! :banana:
Can someone please list a suggestion to memory settings in bios for my system? I would really appreciate it!
This is my "baby":
AMD OPTY 165@ 306x9 1.55V (1.504real)
DFI NF4 LP-Ultra
2x1GB OCZ PC3200 2-3-2-5 2.85V running with 150 divider. (230MHz 2,5-3-2-8)
+more..
I might be shelling out the funds for a 0530TPMW, are these like the old 0530 CABNE's?
i have an ultra-d, i don't know about getting an opteron anymore until i have more info on this issue. is my x2 3800 @ 2.6 1.52v (cpu-z, in bios its 1.55) affected by this? i really i wish i had that 8-phase asus32x right about now.Quote:
Originally Posted by ixtapalapaquetl
lol dude your joking right? this is not the place to sell your cpu! im suprised a mod hasnt jumped all over this yet! read the rules man before you get your self in trouble :fact:Quote:
Originally Posted by demenion
ISn't there a MaxTcase which works with the dual cores ? When I run the program it says ut can't read the max temp.
Btw, if somebody cares, I got 2 dual core 170's from mWave before 2 days, and they both were CBBWE 0530 TMPW ;) :banana:
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=50078
It's stable, however I'm waiting on my ballistix to get back from RMA before I post any screenies...
CCBWE 0530 TMPW
I can run it at 3.13Ghz @ 1.67v (however it's too hot to bench or anything...I can't afford better cooling, so I'm sticking with what I got...) I'm happy I hit the 3Ghz mark though on AIR :)
i would back off that voltage for now, at least until we know more about the dfi nf4 overvolting situation. i'm getting an asus a8n32-sli as soon as they go down in price a little.
Noooooo. Monarch just increased their pricing on the 170s! OEM is $410 now :mad:
The worst part is I just got done selling my single core to buy a dual, was going to order today and this is what I find :bs:
What do you guys think the OC potential of a 165 CCBWE 0534SPMW would be on air? (Ultra-D, Ballistix, Big Typhoon).
2.7-2.8 easy..Quote:
Originally Posted by Confusion
2.8-2.9 if you are lucky
my x2 3800 is sold and i just pulled the trigger on a 170 retail from mwave, i'll you guys know how it goes when it gets here.
Has anyone confirmed this problem on the regular ultra-d? I thought it was only the eXpert that had the problem of killing cpus. I think its kinda odd a huge problem like this is just recently discovered on a board that has been out for over a year.Quote:
Originally Posted by shiznit93
Perhaps you didn't notice that last Sunday the 170's OEM were $366 ;) +$50 in a week just seems the vendors ask for this :slapass:Quote:
Originally Posted by Confusion
To keep things in perspective, the OEM 170 I just received from Monarch is a CCBWE 0534SPMW, and at the moment 2.7 SuperPI 32M stable is the highest I can get. I have an XP90C with a good panaflo on it. So, the Big Typhoon might get you more. Load Temps are about 53-54c and voltage needed for 32M stable is about 1.55. I'm not really willing to go any higher on voltage with this cooling. I never seem to get the super chips that some folks around here seem to get, so I was expecting 2.5-2.6. So, I'm happy.Quote:
Originally Posted by demenion
I'm trying a burn-in at 2.2 at 1.25 volts to see if I can get 2.7 stable voltage down some...
Rob
Quote:
Originally Posted by ixtapalapaquetl
dual core 175
Bios 1.35 X 110%
CPUZ 1.424
idle DMM 1.493
dual p95 DMM 1.524
holy $hit, this is not good. where exactly are you measuring the voltage, i have a very good DMM and wanna try this myself.
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Originally Posted by shiznit93
LOOK HERE
CBID shows it under the p-states tab, 49C on my 175Quote:
Originally Posted by furyfax
i always said the vcore is more than you think on the dfi's ;)
more to the point, shall i go for a 165 = £230 or 170 = £290 ??
I'd say 170 if you want the chance at the golden stepping, 0530TPMW.
You can OC these to the speed of a stock FX-62 (DC 2.8ghz) easily, maybe even push up the volts to make it 3.0ghz (FX-64) :p:
yeah and with 2 cores...hmmQuote:
Originally Posted by edma2
DAMN!!!! i ordered an OEM 170 last tuesday (shipped thursday)Quote:
Originally Posted by fargusmax
i was really hoping for week 0530 :(
Yea, I was hoping for 0530 myself. But I don't think I'll be raising any stink because I can only get a 700mhz overclock...Quote:
Originally Posted by SubZeroGTS
Rob
Anyone from newegg.com or zipzoomfly?
Monarch shipped my two (OEM and retail) last Friday... but I'll keep my fingers crossed. It's weird that I can never get the good steppings regardless of how soon I order them.
I orderd a 170 oem saturday morning (from monarch) hoping for a 0530, guess it won't happen, since i don't have too much good luck. it was like the only reason i ordered one too, see how well the 0530's were doing :(
I think we should give up on 0530 if none of us get any.
hey guys when your talking about these opties getting 2800mhz and such are you guys talking on air? just asking cause i just picked up a 180 dual core and im expecting atleast 3gigs on phasechange... my 3800x2 will run 3300mhz on phase i would hope these opties are good for atleast 3gigs using phasechange...
btw: the 180 optie i scored is a 0530 TPMW so if this is the stepping to get i hope its a good one.
thx perc,
Mine does 2.9 (Prime crashes) on air and it's a 0534SPMW.
thats not bad actualy i wouldnt doubt one of you guys getting 3gigs on air with the right stepping... ill post some results once i get this thing. ill be running mine under phasechange (stock vapo ls ) so i hope for atleast 3gigs maybe even 3200mhz just depends if the oc gods are smiling down on me or not :) .
peace perc,
My 170 CCBWE 0530TPMW did 2.8 before I had to touch the voltage (1.32 stock) and 2.9 prime stable for ~6 hours. It was pretty stable at 2.95 (spi & some prime) and I was pushing for 3.0 when my mobo died! Doh! I have good circulation and lots of fans (memory and pmw fans besides the xp-120) but something still gave. There is no obvious damage but it is definatly dead because I switched everything else out with a friend. Figuring out now if I can RMA it.
SPMW can do 2.8 and up with 1.550 only. At some point I had to play around with special VID to get it higher than 1.550 to do prime at 2.8.
I still have some tweaking and testing to do. I'm hoping for more than 2.7, but I just don't see that happening.
How did your board die? Was it b/c of OCing the 170?Quote:
Originally Posted by jsriolo
woohoo got my chips.
Hoping for 2.6 on the opty and 2.4 on the X2.
if I hit that I'll be 100% happy.
http://ls1archive.com/hard/cpus.jpg