welcome to my world of ambient room temps - just i don't have air con LOL :DQuote:
Originally Posted by MickeyMouse
but looking good so far there mate :D
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welcome to my world of ambient room temps - just i don't have air con LOL :DQuote:
Originally Posted by MickeyMouse
but looking good so far there mate :D
Here's my sweetspot on an XP-90C w/ Panaflo L1B
http://img298.imageshack.us/img298/5403/32m3ta.th.jpg
Great stuff. The MSI doesn't need a lot of volts to give the core to reach its potential. I don't think I've ever seen a MaxTCase higher than 65c before except for the X2s. So maybe these CPUs were meant to run hot. High MaxTCase for single cores usually associated with great OCs. So far the Opties maintain that pattern.Quote:
Originally Posted by aicjofs
Please post your MaxTCase results here as well. I'll post mine in the morning.
I am wondering why I have seen not even one Prime95 stability test on the 1xx Opterons? All that 1M, 8M and 32M stuff is just worth nothing.
Once, I got a SanDiego that could 1M up to 3100 MHz but primed only up to 2900 MHz. So just stop those 1M postings - they don't tell anything.
Lateste Prime95 v24.14 can be picked up here:
http://www.mersenne.org/gimps/p95v2414.zip
Do some 2-3h prime runs with those "freaking" Opterons and I am sure we will see more realistic OC's.
I think its because evryone is too busy playing and tweaking ;), give it a few days and you will see the 'real' overclocks.Quote:
Originally Posted by xxmartin
I don't think so. Posting Prime95 would stop the hype, I guess ... :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by mongoled
Have a look here:
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/showthread.php?t=160018
2700 MHz @ 1.55V with Prime95 and one of those 3.2-GHz-on-(frosty-)air-0530APMW-144-Opterons ... with normal cooling and an average core = nothing to talk about. Just a common SanDiego 3700+ result.
Of course, there may be some really nice 1xx Opterons around doing 2.8-2.9 GHz at Prime but there is the same number of good SanDiegos (3700/4000) around.
Agreed, and hopefully with large FFT's, not these pisspoor small FFT's that dont really stress a CPU :)Quote:
Originally Posted by mongoled
Sweet, that's the kind of result I've been looking for. Awesome clocks, 32M stable, and on good air cooling. :woot:Quote:
Originally Posted by robberbaron
don't small FFT's stress the cpu more than large FFT's?Quote:
Originally Posted by alpha0ne
I agree 1M is a sprinters test. However, 32M is not. I wouldn't put it as high as prime but it does show stabilty in your rig. How high could you do 32M on your sd? I've had cpu's that would do either prime or 32M but not both.Quote:
Originally Posted by xxmartin
I would call 32m stable enough for Xtreme Systems forums.
Maybe yes, maybe no, but at that price who can complain? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by xxmartin
With the A64 no, remember that the mem controller is on die :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ArcTan
So based on everything you've read so far you're predicting the Opterons will end up just like the SDs? Even if that were the case the Opteron 144 would still represent a terrific value to those on Venice budgets.Quote:
Originally Posted by xxmartin
Thanks for the link to the German site. Seems odd that he is giving 1.56v to get Prime stable at just 2.7ghz. Average? Maybe. Still too early to tell.
I would encourage all Opteron users to post any benches they feel like posting and not worry that their results will be dismissed. We can interpret the benches as we see fit. Over time the patterns will emerge.
As for me, I'll continue to do the work I feel necessary to get my rig game stable. 32M SuperPi stable has always been enough to get game stable. I've used Prime before but it wasn't as good as an indicator of stable game play as 32m runs. Sounds like there is interest in Prime from other members though, so I may have to give it a go. :D
Holy humping christ! 3ghz at 1.4v is phenomenal! Air cooled! :up: SD comparisons go out the window for your CPU. Hello FX comparisons.Quote:
Originally Posted by robberbaron
:clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by xxmartin
so it is.
that´s xs.org . screens , screens , screens, but no evidence for stability.
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Wow! This is a wonderful deal. I used to think only 3000's and 530's were worth buying not anymore.
So its not enough to dismiss all benches outside of Prime, now we're going to dismiss the entire XS community? Can't you guys just ask nicely for the Prime benches?Quote:
Originally Posted by freestylercs
plz,plz let me see some prime screens.
Just realize it, and look at this thread. There is no screen, that shows me, this cpu is stable enough.
Overclocking is an other language.
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32m is pretty damn stable. You might get some 24H prime later but right now guys are just getting them and starting tweaking so hold your horses.
I've added Prime to my official list of things to try this weekend. Stay tuned. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by freestylercs
Please note that this :kissbutt: always works better than this :slapass: .
no 24h, but two hours prime 24.x are better than 30sec Super Pi.
I even say 30 min prime shows more.
@gundamit thx, :)
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I hope we're not going to get into the: if you do not have hours of prime, you have nothing debate. I guess one of the reasons I'm at XS is because it is XS. I thought it was a forum of wr, top oc's, information on oc'ing.
I like a system that is stable and I think OCCT or spi32 is more then enough for this forum. All you do is cut out the top oc'er when you cry about prime.
Can i ask where you guys are getting these from, or are they not for sale atm?
Vincent, for you probably it would be here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=75559
one of the toughest stress tests you can do is OCCT these suckers.....so anyone with an the 30minutes OCCT test pass would be priming for hours no problem.....so it's only 30 minutes away for the quick stress testQuote:
Originally Posted by freestylercs
for those wondering, i know my opteron is >3 hours prime stable at 2.7ghz with 1.47v. i don't have screen, cause i know i can do better :D
I need to ask a question how come a s940 cpu fits in a s939 mb have i totaly missed something here, the resone I ask is that a online store here in Sweden got a couple 144/146 operton cpu fore sale but I can´t get week and steeping from them only "we got them a month ago" the are priced 240$
:toast2:
Ask them specifically are they s939. Amd recently released the opteron 939 series, no idea why to be honest, but it seems to be good for all of us. on a side note i believe computersmsa has filled his order, so no more from there.Quote:
Originally Posted by bokis
Please tell us what cooling you use and if you can maximum stable prime.
I am getting one 2 so it would be handy if i could compare.
look carefully at the specs :DQuote:
Originally Posted by bokis
http://www.amdcompare.com/us-en/opte...pn=OSA144BNBOX
Sorry to say the one that was on ther site was a OSA144ATBOX so no go :down:
indeed a no go. i would laugh if someone managed to get a s940 cpu working in s939 though :DQuote:
Originally Posted by bokis
Those Ballistic sticks are making me drool MM :toast:
Love how you keep speeding up your Pi runs with the timing adjustments. Keep it coming MM.Quote:
Originally Posted by MickeyMouse
*Place Holder....Opty 146 in Hands....0530APMW*
And a note to anybody who's interested.....it does not come with the FX/X2 cooler, it comes with the lowly Venice/SD/3800 cooler.
Also of note is that this placeholder won't be touched until I get some TIM....it's gonna be awhile. :(
Oh yeah, no runs on stock cooling for while--no mounting bracket.
Something a little more subzero perhaps? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
Not for awhile dude....;)
If I had even a smidge of AS5 I'd throw it under my watercooling, but all I have is what's already on my nekkid 4400+ :stick:
I think AFI should have some results under the cold stuff soon :D
get tin foil from a hershey's kiss, clean up and flatten it out real well, fold it up to ~1/2 the size of the IHS and place it on, nice and flat. haven't tried it myself, but it may work ;)
/twilight zone theories
Does BB or CompUSA sell TIM? I can catch a bus to one of those...
hopefully i will be able to test one of the 146 out at -116C by the end of next week. :)
Guess whats here! Popping its cherry :D
Pictures man pictures, is it the same stepping as all the others?
Yep... Picture as soon as I get this thing off. Scared of slicing my finger open again...
Removing the IHS? That a boy... finally someone has the guts. Take your time though.
I am... Stupid razor blade is to thick and my mom has no clue where she put my exacto knife thing that would get it off in about 2 seconds :stick:
I know exactly what you mean man....my mom has no idea where she put my AS5 or the DFI retention bracket--I knew I shoulda brought them to school.
Anyway, I picked up a variety of blades yesterday from Meijers, hopefully one will work better than the crappy exacto blades I had taking off my 4400+'s IHS.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
CompUSA sells AS5 under the mad dog label. Just look at the tube and it says AS5. ;)
Dude you gotta get those very thin razors for the IHS removal! Get somethign too thick and you risk damaging the CPU...
Well I found it and the blade is about 5x thicker than I remember... Maybe I'll have it off by 4 :p:
I see this website already adverstising the 150 opty..
LOL I just cut off some of that green crap on the thing... Probably dead with my luck. Every IHS gets harder and harder to take off...
I'll pick some up tonight, thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by wickedld9
Maybe a stupid question but is the performance between a venice 2.7ghz and operton 2.7ghz noticable on real life benchmarks?
How does the memorycontroller does his job?
Qty. Available: 0Quote:
Originally Posted by REBEL900
How much benefit is there to removing the IHS? Taking a blade to something so hard to get doesn't seem...I dunno...good.
After it's off, what should be use to brace the heatsink? I know XP's have those four circle pads, one in each corner.
You gain a few C... I always take IHS off.
3ghz 8m stable 1.5v right now. Ram works just as well as on my 3700+ diego :) So far at least. Only tested 265mhz. Haven't pushed 3.8v yet for some suicide 1m benching on the ram. Still on watercooling. About to try 32m
Anyone know when these hardcore little overclocking Optys come out in the UK?
To say "I want one" is a complete understatement... :slobber:
Nice going,Quote:
Originally Posted by afireinside
Good to see someone has decided to take off the IHS :) will be looking forward to your results
:)
U can already get these over at cpucity.co.uk, go and take a look, he should have Opty 144 in by Monday and Opty 146 at a later date.Quote:
Originally Posted by Le_Petit_Lapin
check out cpucity, only place seen so far for preorders :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Le_Petit_Lapin
In must have been blind when I checked there earlier. Checked again and there it is...the price damn decent too.
Dunno whether to order or not to order a 144, or wait for the 146's or 150's now...
Decisions decisions..... ;)
:slobber: :slobber:
I realy need to get one of these opties when they come out here, if i had the money I would buy 2 of these great chips, but i also need to save some money for a new phase system and I still have to build a liquid-cooling system for my sempie, and then i also need a new motherboard and hd,s :( , Looks like i have to overwork alot the coming few weeks :D
Can,t wait to get one of these in my hands :banana:
Ok:
Voltage doesn't help AT ALL. at 1.55v bios I'm 32m stable at 3ghz. Even up to 1.85v I can't boot over 3060mhz. Weird...
These opties scale terribly with volts.
3050mhz 5m2s 8m :D
Got a liter of ice in res waiting for temps to pull down...
afi :
what temps are you getting without IHS?
you also need to tell us what speeds you were getting before IHS removalQuote:
Originally Posted by afireinside
damn so no comparison there......we know about your results.....i would also try the max OCCT speed with IHS and then without because heat is a major issue with those and IHS off should give at least 100MHzQuote:
Originally Posted by MickeyMouse
Would give me about 500... I can't get contact with an IHS to save my life. Thats why it came off right away.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...65#post1063465
My results ^^
So with all these results coming in, i haven't had time to tweak with mine would a Sandy 3700 Scale better than these Opty's 144/146's?
Anyone know when they will sells these at Newegg?
First tests....couldn't get an inch over 2.68GHz, regardless of voltage, RAM, LDT, etc.
I was wicked bummed to say the least....almost in tears (well, not quite, LOL). Then I got the crazy idea to run the 9x multi, which cleared 2.72GHz. At which point my RAM was a major limitation at 2.5-3-3-0. So I went into BIOS, dropped the multi to 9x, set the divider to 5/6, set timings to 2.5-4-4-7, set voltage back to 1.41V and ran with it.
Well, anyway, here's a quick glimpse of what's to come ;) .....this wasn't even the max, I simply haven't tried higher. :woot:
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/4...50m141v3on.png
:banana: another good one........what BIOS are you on Vapor?
Welp, someone down the hall was playing Busta Rhymes and I kept hearing "Gimme Some Mo'" over and over, so I obeyed. Still haven't hit the max--this is just the highest I've tried :D
http://img327.imageshack.us/img327/2...60m141v4ww.png
EDIT: I'm on the 704-2BTA.
:slobber: almost makes it better you thought it was a poor clocker aswell, a suprise clocker :D
Working on 3200mhz 8m stable ATM, pics soon!!
What did you guys order this from? Just curious.
Mine's on so-so water....got it up to 2980 1.41V 1M stable.
http://img322.imageshack.us/img322/6...80m141v4pu.png
It would crash at 3000 1.41V 1M in the 14 iteration....never tried anything between 2980 and 3000.
Now I have another problem (and maybe why I couldn't get 3000 stable), my board won't go over 332 with any CPU or chipset voltage :rolleyes:
This is a fun OC though, I love a challenge. I think I might retry the 10x multi now.
5/6 divider at 331MHz = 276 @ 2.5-4-4-8, no priority adjustment.
Not tweaking for time yet (although the mem controller doesn't seem to be very good on this Opteron :stick: ), I will though ;)
I've got my own Ballistix sitting on my desk....some sick UTT too :D
I really think there is something to the statement that these Opterons hate TCCD.
Alright, I think temps are killing me at this point--48C load.
309.2x10, mem@ 220/2.5-4-4-8 :rolleyes:
I'll be swapping in my Ballistix now and seeing what I can get. BTW, the 10x multi seems fine now, which is weird.
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/2...91m150v2di.png
nah, my problem is that i just see NO benfit of running anything higher than 2.5-3-3.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
my 1gb crucial value stick is topping out at 225mhz with 3-3-3.. and 2.5-3-3
i played with some geil ddr500, rated for 2.5-3-3. pretty sure it's hynix. got to 275mhz at 2.5-3-3. higher timings didn't get a single mhz
maybe play with some ballistix? 2.5-2-2 = 257mhz, 2.5-3-3 = 260mhz, 3-3-3 or 3-4-4 = 260mhz
at this point, i'm really scratching my head.
I can OC my CPU higher when my TCCD is at 2.5-4-4-8 than I can when it's at 2.5-3-3-0.
Anyway, I was sick of the TCCD bullsh so I threw in my Ballistix @ 280 3-3-3-8 and got a much better time :D
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/7...80m150v8eh.png
You ain't the only one. After seeing RobberBarons's screenie I thought I should revisit the voltage. Sure enough I dropped .25v and no impact on OC. Even managed to beat my personal best on 32M with this run. Everyone getting this CPU needs to know rule #1. This is a low volt CPU. Start low!Quote:
Originally Posted by ozzimark
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/5...lowv1459do.png
Looks like the s939 opterons are finally starting to trickle into the states.
@ ewiz:
148 for $285
150 for $389
152 for $821 :eek:
They don't have any 144's or 146's yet. Vandi must be putting too much pressure on fab51 for these. :nono: :D
has to be my board thenQuote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
gundamit, very nice. i'm almost tempted to do the same.. though i definitly get higher with 1.62v than i do with 1.55v
Welp, I popped off the IHS, bumped up the voltage .02 and she's 5C cooler under load....:woot:
3100 1M:
http://img272.imageshack.us/img272/3...vpopped4bd.png
Nice chip Vapor :) Go for 3.2!
Is UTT or Ballistix faster?
I noticed with Ballistix I can run 2.5-2-2 1T up to 250 Mhz but UTT can go cas 2 at this speed. But then I was reading an article at anandtech and wes thinks ballistix is fastest ram all things being equal.. But there not. Understand? prolly not.
Could someone try the afore mentioned settings please? I never did jump on UTT bandwagon because I was always happy with Ballistix's low volts (coolness) and speed it offered. But now, I need some new memory since I'm keeping my X2 with ballistix and need new ram with 144 setup. Get more or UTT? Thanks.:)
Don't know what you're talking about Zebo....anyway, onto more news.
Haven't tried 3.2GHz yet AFI, but here's 3.15GHz :D
I think it has more too...it was only 45C loaded.
http://img335.imageshack.us/img335/4...vpopped1tm.png
It's only marginally faster because I had to drop the RAM divider from 183 to 166 :(
I can pop in my Redline and probably get mid 26s though :D
Where are these 939 optys coming from, i cant find them anywhere!
^^^ You need to read the thread a little bit. ;)
I looked, didnt find- Maybe i went too fast...
Alright, first time I've ever run 8M on this processor was a success!
3140 @ 1.61V
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/6826/...vpopped6jv.png
Now it's time to throw in some Redline and shoot for 3.2GHz :woot:
vapo, i see you playin with upper voltages, what kind of cooling?
^^^^IHS off and Water^^^^Quote:
Originally Posted by VulgarHandle
geewiz....these Opti are clocking very high and looking mighty good for such a low price tag :slobber: they're begging for phase change!!
Gundammit or anyone else who has one....can you guys please run atleast 30min ~1hr of Prime blend and see how high they can clock? please... :toast:
upper voltages? :lol: I've run 1.85V through mine already...Quote:
Originally Posted by VulgarHandle
I would be too man cept I ain't got nothing to keep this thing cool :(
Anyway, I don't think I'll get 3.2GHz without an ice bath or the AS5 settling in A LOT.
Here's 3.17GHz with my Redline:
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/9...vpopped9km.png
Whats your water set up like?
I think you need one of these:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...N/P1010073.jpg