OCZ PC4000 EB Platinum.....Initial Testing

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10-08-2005, 07:04 AM
infiniti029

Quote:

Originally Posted by Super strokey

Has anyone tired using lots of volts on these yet or does that just start making them error?

from what i hear, these chips don't respond that well to alot of voltage.
10-08-2005, 07:14 AM
van Basten

Quote:

Originally Posted by Super strokey

Has anyone tired using lots of volts on these yet or does that just start making them error?

I got mine (Corsair XMS) down to 2 Errors @ 200 5-2-2-2-T1 using 3,1V.
Errors came down from Thousands using 2,7V to only 2 using 3.1V, but I was afraid of putting even more Voltage onto those beauties
10-08-2005, 08:26 AM
dnottis

To answer a few questions Ive seen posted here - this my own personal experience.

The PC4000 does not like voltage, the PC4000 EB will react to more voltage however 2.9v is the highest Ive gone.

As far as heat the EB are not nearly as hot, mine are cool to the touch at 258, 2.7v. The PC4000 was hot even at stock settings, so the EB are in fact much cooler running.

The EB scale where the PC4000 does not. I can run DDR400 - about 420 2-3-2-6 (havent really played with anything but cas) and DDR500 - about ddr550 2.5-3-2-7 (which I think is very respectable for 2 x 1GB running 1T). PC4000 would not tighten more than their stock timings and dropped cas below 3 resulted in immediate errors.

The only issue I have with the EB is the memory controllers feakin' out. Using a 3700 San Diego I can run up to 260 Mhz and still be 3d / gaming benchable. However I can Super PI 32m and memtest upwards of 280 Mhz - its not the memory it's something with the memory controllers just like liking taking these too high in 3d apps. Using my Venice I managed 267 Mhz, 1 more Mhz and 3d / gaming benchmarking would just result in a freeze. I have reports of the FX chips going 275Mhz and higher...so this is all dependant on the memory controller.

Im using the orange slots for mine.

Hope this answers some questions till some reviews get posted. Ours should be up mid next week.

Dean
10-08-2005, 08:30 AM
Trice

What color slots on the DFI LanParty are you guys running these in?

Whas the difference between those?
10-08-2005, 08:39 AM
dnottis

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trice

What color slots on the DFI LanParty are you guys running these in?

Whas the difference between those?

I edited the above, but Im in orange.
10-08-2005, 08:55 AM
LikwidKool

I am using the orange slots, and mine do not like voltage. More than 2.7v gives me weird behaviour.
10-08-2005, 09:12 AM
Trice

Hmm I'm in yellow right now, whats the difference between them?
10-08-2005, 01:14 PM
MikalCarbine

I am thinking my memory controller is crap. I cannot run 3-3-2 at 250mhz. 3-3-3 is stable but I cannot overclocking past 270 (somewhere a little lower than that) or it locks up in memtest and reboots.

I am thinking of buying a new CPU. Any core in particular that can handle 2G better? or is it luck of the draw..
10-09-2005, 09:33 AM
Okda

more results from anyone yet ?
10-09-2005, 11:56 AM
ElAguila

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyderOCZ

All my ram runs 704-2BT bios now.....best so far IMHO for the board :D

As long as you don't need to the upper vid percent multis.
10-09-2005, 08:25 PM
Revv23

can anyone test these on an 875 setup?

i would love to run these with my 2.8c 1:1 at 270fsb with my IC7g
10-10-2005, 09:28 AM
uOpt

Quote:

Originally Posted by Super strokey

does that mean we could find some cheaper sticks that do just as well? Or are these crazy high binned?

With OCZ you can normally assume that the non-highend sticks will not go much higher than specified.
10-11-2005, 06:36 AM
eva2000

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony

either 623-2bta or 704-2bta

hmm i'm still using 623-3 official bios .. guess need to try these as well
10-11-2005, 09:07 AM
FACTION95

I just bought a pair from Atacom. I should have them by Thursday.
10-11-2005, 09:14 AM
andyOCZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by eva2000

hmm i'm still using 623-3 official bios .. guess need to try these as well

The -2 BIOS series either works really well on your board, worse or just the same. The yellow slots and 704-2BT BIOS work best on my 2 boards. Others report the orange slots are best. This depends largely on board revisions it seems.

It would be interesting to see the "Zen Memory Master from Down Under's" results. ;)
10-11-2005, 10:59 AM
winston

Mine wil be here 2mo :)
10-11-2005, 12:56 PM
Entropy1982

gettin my 2 sticks monday from atacom :D

:woot: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
10-11-2005, 01:06 PM
Capt_Caveman

Found a review on these sticks at Anandtech:
http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2560&p=7
10-11-2005, 04:59 PM
F@TMAN

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt_Caveman

Found a review on these sticks at Anandtech:
http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2560&p=7

Suprised they didn't make comparison with Ballistix PC4000, only PC3200. Surely a true enthusiast review would recognise these two as the frontrunners...
10-11-2005, 05:22 PM
poiuy223

IMHO, after playing with patriot, centon, corsair, ocz, and crucial, no one can touch crucial. 300mhz 3-3-3-8 is pretty damn hard to be if you ask me. plus there are no problems with the memory, ie IMC compatibility or game issues.

looks like i'll have to give gigaram a call again and see what they offer
10-11-2005, 05:30 PM
rockman

Here’s some of my results from this memory, seems to be pretty good stuff :)

http://www.unstableoverclock.com/u/r...c4000eb2gb.JPG
This was what I first tried booting to for fun, its stable for a SPi32 but wasn't for 3D so i had to try something different.

http://www.unstableoverclock.com/u/r...4000eb2gb2.JPG
This is what works for me 3D stable.

I really like this RAM, it seems to like 2.92v. Thanks for the fantastic product OCZ. :)
10-11-2005, 06:28 PM
Super strokey

Does it do better with more volts? I really want to know how it does with lots vdimm
10-11-2005, 06:42 PM
Tony

juicey clock there rockman....real juicey ;)
10-11-2005, 07:29 PM
rockman

I'm not done yet Tony :D
Still just trying to get everything settled in.

http://www.unstableoverclock.com/u/r...4000eb2gb3.JPG
10-12-2005, 02:51 AM
Mikesta

Hey your the man rockman.

First of all you are using the right memory test tool. Windows memtest is :banana::banana::banana::banana: loads more sensitive then SPI, memtest etc etc etc.

I'm now just wanting people to post game stable timings.
10-12-2005, 03:27 AM
MonkSP

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockman

I'm not done yet Tony :D
Still just trying to get everything settled in.

http://www.unstableoverclock.com/u/r...4000eb2gb3.JPG

Those OCZ sticks are awsome. Congrats man!
10-12-2005, 04:27 AM
Mcklain

I Should receive my 2gb kit today!

I will post back results with my X2 soon!!
10-12-2005, 07:56 AM
Family man 72

Ordered a kit from www.oc-wear.de. Should recieve it sometime next week. Going to run them with 3500+ winnie and Epox 9NDA3+. I'll post results as soon as I get them.
10-12-2005, 07:59 AM
eva2000

Haven't done any 3dmark benchies yet but just testing with 32M first :)

Still using 623-3 bios

10x282 <-- max i've tested so far 32M stable
http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...lidated_tn.jpg

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...32m_twk_tn.jpg
10-12-2005, 01:49 PM
dnottis

I am able to run 282 Mhz @ 2.6vdimm in Memtest #5 and Super PI 32M. Thats easy.

Cmon guys I wanna see some 3d benches!!!! :slapass:
10-12-2005, 02:28 PM
Entropy1982

Quote:

Originally Posted by dnottis

I am able to run 282 Mhz @ 2.6vdimm in Memtest #5 and Super PI 32M. Thats easy.

Cmon guys I wanna see some 3d benches!!!! :slapass:

Hey, i'm a noob here so i'm sure these questions will be laughed at :) hehe :

1. Why doesn't everyone just set the ram to 2.8v right away... OCZ guarantees it to be fine at that voltage.

2. What are 3d benches? =P i thought you only do memtest for ram stability? there is some other test?
10-12-2005, 03:16 PM
Tony

Memory does not alays need high voltage, sometimes tweaking small increases will gain more than ramming more juice.
10-12-2005, 03:51 PM
Mcklain

Ok guys just started testing them out.

I am running memtest 86+ for the moment at 10*260@3-3-2-7 with 2.7v.

I got some questions:

First I see a massive jump in ram speed that memtest is giving me. Before I was at 10*260 with my tccd @2.5-3-3-7 and I had about 2500mb/s. Notice this was a 1gb kit

Now with my new and first 2gb kit I am getting 2902mb/s wich is my opinion a massive increase.

I know the timmings with the EB are a little more agressive than the tccd was but I dont think it can justify the 400mb/s diffence.

So is this increase due to it being a 2gb kit?

LMk what you think!!!
10-12-2005, 04:02 PM
bachus_anonym

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Hehe... I asked before but it looks like nobody wanted to try :( So, maybe I'll try again :D

Have anyone of you guys tried to run 2 instances of "Memtest for Windows" at those high clocks? Maybe up to 500%... Dean? Ryder? George? Each can allocate only 920MB... It's quite a bit more stressful for memory than P95 and normal memtest... I'm really curious how that kit fares with this tool...

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=38473&stc=1

Anyone, please? ;) Thanks in advance...
10-12-2005, 04:41 PM
Tony

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mcklain

Ok guys just started testing them out.

I am running memtest 86+ for the moment at 10*260@3-3-2-7 with 2.7v.

I got some questions:

First I see a massive jump in ram speed that memtest is giving me. Before I was at 10*260 with my tccd @2.5-3-3-7 and I had about 2500mb/s. Notice this was a 1gb kit

Now with my new and first 2gb kit I am getting 2902mb/s wich is my opinion a massive increase.

I know the timmings with the EB are a little more agressive than the tccd was but I dont think it can justify the 400mb/s diffence.

So is this increase due to it being a 2gb kit?

LMk what you think!!!

I put it down to 8 node interleaving...the density of the dimms is key
10-12-2005, 06:45 PM
RyderOCZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by bachus_anonym

Have anyone of you guys tried to run 2 instances of "Memtest for Windows" at those high clocks? Maybe up to 500%... Dean? Ryder? George? Each can allocate only 920MB... It's quite a bit more stressful for memory than P95 and normal memtest... I'm really curious how that kit fares with this tool...

I don't have a dual core....will 2 instances run without it? I have never used this tool......I am currently installing the board in a case so I can play BF2 on it :woot:

I will see if I can accomodate you Bachus in the next couple days :)
10-12-2005, 06:48 PM
Vapor

Don't need an X2 from what I know, Ryder.
10-12-2005, 06:51 PM
bachus_anonym

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyderOCZ

I don't have a dual core....will 2 instances run without it? I have never used this tool......I am currently installing the board in a case so I can play BF2 on it :woot:

I will see if I can accomodate you Bachus in the next couple days :)

No, you just fire up two instances, from same folder. No need for X2. You might gonna have to play with Priority in Task Manager to have each instance use 50%, though.
If you guys don't want to give it a try, that's fine. But If you do, it would be awesome.
Here's the linky - Memtest for Windows

Thanks Ryder :toast:
10-12-2005, 06:52 PM
RyderOCZ

Thanks Vapor...someone point a Windows memtest noob in the direction of a download linky?

Thanks again

**EDIT** Bachus you are too quick with the post ;) HAHAHAHA
10-12-2005, 06:56 PM
Vapor

LOL....he answered your post before you posted it! :rofl:

I think I'm gonna have to run 3 of these to test out my memory (3GB lovin' over here :D)....not that I've ever had problems.
10-12-2005, 07:06 PM
Major

Not to hijack this thread :D

I run two instances of memtest, one using a small sample of say 16mb and another using a large sample of 512mb and adjust memory settings in A64 tweaker while memtest is running to determine stable/optimal settings. The smaller sample will give errors quickly if a settings is not stable, and the larger sample should indicate if both sticks can handle the clocks/settings.
10-12-2005, 07:22 PM
Revv23

so no word on 875?

guess ill pass :(
10-12-2005, 09:13 PM
RyderOCZ

Sorry Rev....no 875 board to try it on.... 865 board has been replaced with a DDR2 machine.

I haven't had any customers tell me it runs good on 875 yet either...sorry :(
10-12-2005, 09:30 PM
WeStSiDePLaYa

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony

Well im sorry you feel like that...you are actually saying you want to help our competitors, so actaully you are killing what OCZ do.

Very sad

the only reasons ocz does what it does is because competition. we all know a competitive market brings progress.
10-13-2005, 01:12 AM
Mikesta

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyderOCZ

Thanks Vapor...someone point a Windows memtest noob in the direction of a download linky?

Thanks again

I must say I'm alittle shocked. I started voicing windows memtest > memtest86
+ 1.5/6 months ago over at the OCAU forums.

I've had many and numerous instances of having a clean bill of health from memtest 1.6, SuperPi and even Prime95....

But my favourite game would crash.

In frustration I found Windows memtest. It finds errors where the others don't. Sometimes very fast. Literally within the first 30 seconds. how many errors you get and how fast you get em. If windows memtest is clear....my games DO NOT CRASH EVER.

EVA2000 and a few other quite prominenant member over at OCAU did agree with me but I am quite surprised by the lack of usage of them in screen shots by OC gurus here and elsewhere.

Hopefully this thread is a sign of things to come.

BTW have any of you guru's tried out the pro version? If not then please tell us about it when you guys do decide to get it! Having to constantly monitor the free version is the only draw back of windows memtest compared to 1.6 etc.
10-13-2005, 01:39 AM
eva2000

huh i never agreed that win memtest was better than memtest :)

each app accesses and tests memory in different ways :)

pcmark04/05 memory test in itself http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=474 is better for AMD64 mem testing than win memtest and memtest86+ for certain stuff like finding right TREF and drive/drive data strengths
10-13-2005, 01:57 AM
Gaspar

Any confirmation as to what modules these are?
10-13-2005, 04:26 AM
Mcklain

Anandtech talked about infineon. But I aint sure
10-13-2005, 04:32 AM
Vapor

For the 5th+ time from me alone.....these are Infineon CE-6.
10-13-2005, 04:49 AM
eva2000

seems 10x280mhz 3-3-2-8 like OCZ said stresses mem controller more and 3dmark2003 froze at GT1 with 2.64v vdimm, froze at GT4 with 2.69v vdimm and 3dmark2003 fully passed at 2.69v vdimm and at +0.25v more vcore to the cpu but the score seemed lower than usual.

But 11x274mhz 3-3-2-8 definitely works :)

Ran GT1 and GT4 (both most stressing on system) in 3dmark2003 in 40 loops @1600x1200 resolution with no probs

then did these

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...32m_twk_tn.jpg

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...0_18514_tn.jpg

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...00_8565_tn.jpg
10-13-2005, 10:01 AM
dnottis

We posted our review, unfortunately with 2 chips and trying different settings I could not break 263 Mhz with Sandy core and 268 with venice.

Overall increased performance with tighter timings rocked - we can run 250 2.5-3-2-7.

http://www.3dxtreme.net/index.php
10-13-2005, 02:10 PM
Nightprowler_77

Just recived my pair of OCZ EB replasing my bad stick of tracers. Right now I`m running a burn in at 3-3-2-7, 255 HTT.

Looking forward to test them this weekend :banana:
10-13-2005, 03:01 PM
Gaspar

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vapor

For the 5th+ time from me alone.....these are Infineon CE-6.

Im just curiouse if you know this as a fact or just pure speculation?
Ps my Pats are still screaming along no hiccups too
10-14-2005, 09:09 AM
Mcklain

Well finished some initial testing.

24hrs dual prime stable at 260mhz at 3-3-2-7 with 2.7

I also passed 100 loops of 3dmark 2003 game tests without any troubles.

I will try cas 2.5 but doubt it will work.

Anyways, awsome ram!!

Thanks again OCZ for a great product!!

http://yamaha.gotdns.org:2525/x2@2600-1.49v-small.JPG
10-14-2005, 11:43 AM
rupbert

I hope it isn't stated in this thread, but what is the part code for this ram please?

So I know what I am looking for :)
10-14-2005, 01:38 PM
RyderOCZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by rupbert

I hope it isn't stated in this thread, but what is the part code for this ram please?

So I know what I am looking for :)

OCZ5002048EBPE-K
10-14-2005, 03:42 PM
FACTION95

I'm still waiting to get my EB sticks. UPS are a bunch of morons.
10-15-2005, 03:28 AM
rupbert

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyderOCZ

OCZ5002048EBPE-K

Thx
10-17-2005, 07:12 AM
arctic-k20

ttt - looking for more results!!!
10-17-2005, 01:14 PM
Haltech

Well i ordered some of this good stuff for my X2 3800+ as well. Picked it up at monarch for $332 shipped. Ill post my results when i get em. :toast:
10-17-2005, 04:00 PM
JCGhz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haltech

Well i ordered some of this good stuff for my X2 3800+ as well. Picked it up at monarch for $332 shipped. Ill post my results when i get em. :toast:

I plan on doing the same.. monarch will get em to you faster then atacom will...
10-17-2005, 05:35 PM
FACTION95

UPS guy just now delivered my sticks. They got left at the UPS facility. Now to see what these babies will do.
10-18-2005, 07:12 PM
JCGhz

Quote:

Originally Posted by FACTION95

UPS guy just now delivered my sticks. They got left at the UPS facility. Now to see what these babies will do.

Well? How did they do?
10-19-2005, 05:58 AM
Tibu

Can anyone forget about Cas3 for one bench session and see how far they'll go at cas 2.5? :stick:
10-19-2005, 06:23 AM
Mikesta

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tibu

Can anyone forget about Cas3 for one bench session and see how far they'll go at cas 2.5? :stick:

HERE HERE!
10-19-2005, 07:52 AM
RyderOCZ

Tibu - Mikesta,

I did this....Post #28 on Page 2 of this very thread.... 2.5-3-2-0 at 255....highest clock and tightest I could go ;)
10-19-2005, 08:25 AM
Entropy1982

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyderOCZ

Tibu - Mikesta,

I did this....Post #28 on Page 2 of this very thread.... 2.5-3-2-0 at 255....highest clock and tightest I could go ;)

that "0" confuses me... how is that even possible? :)
10-19-2005, 08:29 AM
RyderOCZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by Entropy1982

that "0" confuses me... how is that even possible? :)

I find that it is no different than 5....just looks good on paper ;)
Probably doesn't exist except in the bios of the DFI. I haven't fully tested it, and it would probably be CPU dependant as to its performance benefit.
10-19-2005, 08:34 AM
Entropy1982

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyderOCZ

I find that it is no different than 5....just looks good on paper ;)
Probably doesn't exist except in the bios of the DFI. I haven't fully tested it, and it would probably be CPU dependant as to its performance benefit.

Cool, thanks... I just got my rig hooked up today... 4000eb coming today.... my doorman probably already has it... just have to hook it up. Will probably OC tonight/tomorrow ... hopefully you guys will be able to help.

btw ryder... you rock =)
10-19-2005, 11:11 AM
arctic-k20

well i am having strange issues with this kit - right now i am running 280x10 9/10 divider so the ram is 254mhz and i am not confident that is 100% stable at this speed..

3-3-7-2-13-16-2-2-1-3-1552-1-en-auto-0-8-2-8-normal-6-256-en-16-7-dis

those are my timings for the ram...

the cpu is fine for 2.8ghz probably even higher but this ram is only running 4mhz over spec and even then i dont think its 100% happy - all sorts of strange things happen..

ram will not run 2.5cas at lower speeds - will not run 1:1 at much more that 200mhz

need some pointers on this stuff for sure - side note i can run dual prime for 9hrs and 3dmark will pass but this strange behaviour still happens...?
10-19-2005, 11:19 AM
mackanz

Arctic,

Post a A64 screenie and the exact voltages you use on cpu, chipset and memory.
10-19-2005, 11:27 AM
arctic-k20

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here is cpu-z and a64

for this screenshot i was using 3684 for tref instead of 1552 for testing...

v-ldt=1.30
v-chip=1.60
vdim=2.7 + 0.03%

vcore 1.45 + 110%
10-19-2005, 12:30 PM
mackanz

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The left row from top to bottom:

3
12
16
3
2
5
2
2
2
2
200 3.9us
1

The right side:

16
128
dis
dis
4
7
5.5
16
dis
200 (change it in bios)
en
norm
dis

Thats the settings i use on a SD FX-55 at 10X280 and 2.90 vdimm on an Asus A8N-sli premium. I have looped 3d03 all day and played a few hours of Quake 4.
Test 1:1 with a lower cpu multiplier. Test at 7 to take it out of the equation.
10-19-2005, 06:57 PM
arctic-k20

doesnt matter what settings i try - for 1:1 the highest this ram will go on my setup 257mhz - and that is only memtest stable

games arent stable @ 254mhz - i get erratic behaviour - long pauses where you think the system has froze but after 30seconds it will snap back.....and then eventually lockup..

this is on a divider no less.......i would say well maybe its my setup but this setup ran 512x4 just fine - and had better results than this....im disappointed!!
10-19-2005, 07:54 PM
andyOCZ

arctic-k20

I have you board CPU and memory here and am testing for you now.

Use Tref 4708 for starters, but I will post settings soon.
10-19-2005, 08:00 PM
arctic-k20

sweet - thanks andy

i have made a little a little headway - by setting tref to auto and also setting max async / read preambe to auto which works out to 10 and 7 made a big difference ...

i am also wondering if the nvidia 81.85 drivers are acting up...i dont like beta anything but they were supposed to fix up fear..
10-19-2005, 08:26 PM
andyOCZ

PC4000 EB, X2 3800+, DFI NF4 Ultra D, OCZ600w PSU, 704-2BT BIOS, Yellow Slots

arctic-k20

Give these settings a shot. I used a 7 multi to test and just pulled these settings off the top o' my head. I checked for 3d stabilty and all seems good.

In DRAM Configuration Section of Genie BIOS:

200
enable
3.0
03
07
02
8
14
02
02
02
03
4708
auto
enabled
auto
0
level 6
auto
auto
DRAM Response Time: Fast
auto
256
disable
16
07
disable

In Genie Bios:

270
auto
16 16
7 for testing, then up this to a stable speed for your CPU
100
disable
1.500
1.425v (This is about 1.57v, if you need more or less adjust as required)
above VID * 113
1.30v
1.70v
2.8v
Disable
10-19-2005, 08:38 PM
arctic-k20

thanks for the quick reply - i will give those timings a try... i will be shocked if i can boot 1:1 @ 270x7 but there are a few timings different in your suggestion that i havent tried yet so who knows....
10-19-2005, 08:55 PM
arctic-k20

ok i tried the timings - and got a hard bios error - i had memtest turned on in the bios and right after the post screen it tries to load memtest and gives me a black screen saying unexpected interrupt - halting execution

the writing is jumbled a bit - assuming that is bad i tried some variations of your timings and notta - this stuff will not boot 1:1 for me :(

that was 270x7 btw
10-19-2005, 09:34 PM
andyOCZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by arctic-k20

ok i tried the timings - and got a hard bios error - i had memtest turned on in the bios and right after the post screen it tries to load memtest and gives me a black screen saying unexpected interrupt - halting execution

the writing is jumbled a bit - assuming that is bad i tried some variations of your timings and notta - this stuff will not boot 1:1 for me :(

that was 270x7 btw

Try each stick by itself at those settings and let me know.

Thanks
10-20-2005, 10:51 AM
CHaynes112

I was reading the review at 3DXtreme and noticed the MemTest bandwidth was 2957MB/s at 280 3-3-2-7... I was wondering what the bandwidth was at 250 2.5-3-2-7? I thought I saw someone at 32xx-33xxMB/s running somewhere near there?!!

-Thanks
10-20-2005, 03:13 PM
arctic-k20

Andy: here is an update on the eb...

stick 1 in single channel mode in orange slot furthest from cpu maxes out at 256mhz 1:1 with cpu multi of 7x

stick 2 in single channel mode in orange slot furthest from cpu maxes out at 260mhz 1:1 with cpu multi of 7x

the kit will not do 256mhz 1:1 with a cpu multi of 7x... :confused:
10-20-2005, 05:17 PM
Astennu

Quote:

Originally Posted by arctic-k20

Andy: here is an update on the eb...

stick 1 in single channel mode in orange slot furthest from cpu maxes out at 256mhz 1:1 with cpu multi of 7x

stick 2 in single channel mode in orange slot furthest from cpu maxes out at 260mhz 1:1 with cpu multi of 7x

the kit will not do 256mhz 1:1 with a cpu multi of 7x... :confused:

I sure hope its not your memmory controller.

But something else. I got 1 gb of PC4000 VX. Will i lose a lot of peformance by going to these sticks ?? i'm seaching for the best 2gb set there is. This set and the bassilix are the best i found so far. But i'm affraid my VX will be mush faster. Will there ever be something like VX in 2 gb version ??
10-20-2005, 10:06 PM
andyOCZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by Astennu

I sure hope its not your memmory controller.

But something else. I got 1 gb of PC4000 VX. Will i lose a lot of peformance by going to these sticks ?? i'm seaching for the best 2gb set there is. This set and the bassilix are the best i found so far. But i'm affraid my VX will be mush faster. Will there ever be something like VX in 2 gb version ??

Running a 2gb kit with 2-2-2 timings at 250mhz is not likely to happen. The load on your memory controller is just too high. To be honest I don't see a huge difference in when switching from 4000 VX to the 4000 EB 2gb kit. The timings are pretty darn good and I don't see anything with better timings coming along soon.

Bottom line is that for me the benefits of having 2gb outweigh a small hit in benchmarks.
10-20-2005, 10:31 PM
andyOCZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by arctic-k20

Andy: here is an update on the eb...

stick 1 in single channel mode in orange slot furthest from cpu maxes out at 256mhz 1:1 with cpu multi of 7x

stick 2 in single channel mode in orange slot furthest from cpu maxes out at 260mhz 1:1 with cpu multi of 7x

the kit will not do 256mhz 1:1 with a cpu multi of 7x... :confused:

Email me and we will either get you straightened out with some settings or get you a kit that will do better for you.

Do me a favor and give me a run down of all your BIOS settings.

Thanks
10-21-2005, 01:26 AM
Astennu

Ok. I'm gonna call my hardware outlett if they can order me some 4000 EB. I have not seen them in the nederlands tho. but 2 GB sounds verry sweet :D

Do you think that there will me faster memmory from OCZ that can hit higher clocks like TCCD @ CL 2.5 or CL 3 timings and thats way faster than EB ? of tis this the thing to have in the upcomming year ?
10-21-2005, 07:15 AM
LikwidKool

Quote:

Originally Posted by andyOCZ

Bottom line is that for me the benefits of having 2gb outweigh a small hit in benchmarks.

Exactly. In the "real world" these sticks rock.
10-21-2005, 08:04 AM
Sentential

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vapor

Other manufacturers will also start using this IC, so who knows what we'll get.

We're very well aware of the newer C die Infineon chips. The 6ns parts (PC2700) as well as the 5ns parts (PC3200) are *exceptionally* good right now.

We have considered many many times about using these chips but there is a great concern that the yeilds will not hold for long. Ive personally seen this happen atleast 3 times. As a whole Infineon has a nasty habit of producing chips with unstable yeilds. We have been screwed before and most likely it will happen again.

Sure this batch kicks ass but will it 2 months from now? My guess is no. If we did make one it would most likely be a limited edition for the reasons listed above.

Besides there are plenty of other parts that should be able to match this and match it on a consistant basis without the worry of it being a golden batch. But hey get em while the going is hot because I sincererly doubt that by year's end it will stay like this just like it was with BE5.
10-21-2005, 08:14 AM
Vapor

Get them while the going is hot? I might have to....I have a feeling my SLI-DR killed my Ballistix.....these are better for the speeds I run though, so that's a plus.

And I'm very content with limited editions....so long as we get them for at least some time ;)
10-21-2005, 08:45 AM
iboomalot

I sure hope 270-280 is possible with this ram.

I currently stable at 250 with my PC3700eb and my ballistix won't boot even at 260 FSB so sending them back to Newegg for refund and buying some of the 2gb EB but I sure hope a 300.00 investment is worth it over my kickass 3700eb I already have

***crosses fingers***
10-21-2005, 09:11 AM
Family man 72

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Finally I recieved my kit today. Initial results are here:crappy 3500+ winny doesn't go much more than 2.67GHz. Gonna adjust Trc,Trfc and other alpha timings later. Overall I'm impressed. Thank's again Ocz!
10-21-2005, 09:12 AM
andyOCZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sentential

We're very well aware of the newer C die Infineon chips. The 6ns parts (PC2700) as well as the 5ns parts (PC3200) are *exceptionally* good right now.

We have considered many many times about using these chips but there is a great concern that the yeilds will not hold for long. Ive personally seen this happen atleast 3 times. As a whole Infineon has a nasty habit of producing chips with unstable yeilds. We have been screwed before and most likely it will happen again.

Sure this batch kicks ass but will it 2 months from now? My guess is no. If we did make one it would most likely be a limited edition for the reasons listed above.

Besides there are plenty of other parts that should be able to match this and match it on a consistant basis without the worry of it being a golden batch. But hey get em while the going is hot because I sincererly doubt that by year's end it will stay like this just like it was with BE5.

Dear Sentential, thanks for the nod that these would be a good purchase, but it would be best to let OCZ determine the length of life of their products.

If you would like to start a thread on your Mushkin 2gb parts that would be a better place for speculation as to how chips might yield. I promise no one from OCZ will post in your thread.

Thanks buddy.
10-21-2005, 09:16 AM
Family man 72

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHaynes112

I was wondering what the bandwidth was at 250 2.5-3-2-7? I thought I saw someone at 32xx-33xxMB/s running somewhere near there?!!

-Thanks

I get 11x243 and with 2.5-3-2-7 settings 3153MB in memtest v.1.55.
10-21-2005, 10:01 AM
RyderOCZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHaynes112

I was reading the review at 3DXtreme and noticed the MemTest bandwidth was 2957MB/s at 280 3-3-2-7... I was wondering what the bandwidth was at 250 2.5-3-2-7? I thought I saw someone at 32xx-33xxMB/s running somewhere near there?!!

-Thanks

It will depend on CPU core and CPU speed... Venice is higher in memtest than Clawhammer for example, San Diego is really low...if all are running at same Clock speed.

There will be no 1 set bandwidth at 250 or at 280...it will depend on CPU speeds.
10-21-2005, 10:07 AM
arctic-k20

Andy - you have pm !!
10-21-2005, 11:04 AM
Micha

Andy - would this memory work with A8N-Premium??? I know some people has problems with OCZ memory and this mobo... Did someone tested it with Asus's ........ (put here whatever you want). I'm interested in running 240-250 MHz, 2.5-3-2-7 t1, so nothing extreme.

Thanks

Pawel
10-21-2005, 12:15 PM
CHaynes112

Ryder,

What about an X2 4400+ Toldeo at 2750MHz (250MHz x 11) with the RAM at 250MHz (2.5-3-2-7-1T-1:1)? Ay ideas? :D
10-21-2005, 12:30 PM
andyOCZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by Micha

Andy - would this memory work with A8N-Premium??? I know some people has problems with OCZ memory and this mobo... Did someone tested it with Asus's ........ (put here whatever you want). I'm interested in running 240-250 MHz, 2.5-3-2-7 t1, so nothing extreme.

Thanks

Pawel

It does great on the ASUS Premium.

Marcus posted settings here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...45#post1093145
He hit 280mhz, but no promises on you doing the same. His FX55 may have allot to do with it.
10-21-2005, 12:50 PM
RyderOCZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHaynes112

Ryder,

What about an X2 4400+ Toldeo at 2750MHz (250MHz x 11) with the RAM at 250MHz (2.5-3-2-7-1T-1:1)? Ay ideas? :D

Not really, I don't have one....My memtest bandwidth with a Venice running 2650 (265 x 10) at 3-3-2-5 is 3571MB/s :)
Memtest v1.60 built into bios 704-2BTA.
10-21-2005, 12:56 PM
CHaynes112

nice :clap:

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