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Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
I don't think so. The ETA is Oct. 17th.
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Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
I don't think so. The ETA is Oct. 17th.
*waits patiently* (but not too patiently) *remembers ATI and their crappy launches* grumble, grumble.... :mad:
I love my USB external floppy for the occational bios flash... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by J-Mag
Check again it says ETA which translates to ESTIMATED Time of Arrival. That was the original release date for the board. So you're saying that you'd believe ncix.com more than the person who designed this board (Oscar Wu)? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by TransNone13
Quite possibly, I looked at the one video slot near the rear of the motherboard(after You mentioned It) and noticed what looks like either a fan header or a fdd power connector.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lood007
It's definately a sweet motherboard and on My list now. :slobber: :slobber: :slobber:
Damn, it seems I just sold my trusty (but VTT unstable) DFI nF4 too early? :cussing:
Here's an image from a different angle.
http://staff.bit-tech.net/tim/LP-UT-...Expert-sid.jpg
Nice, But I don't have any use for one. :( I'm used to fdd's anyway and I have a few floppies around here.Quote:
Originally Posted by J-Mag
One of the things which annoyed me about the Ultra-D/SLI-DR is that the chipset fan was a damn siren whenever I boot the computer up.
What do people think about the compatibility of replacing the chipset fan of the Expert with a Zalman NB47J heatsink, or a like heatsink, while using both of the graphics card slots (with coolers like a Arctic Cooling Silencer or Zalman VF700)?
No, I don't think NCIX is right at all. BUT I'm trying to be optomistic. I've been waiting since the beginning of September :(.
If you plan for the NB47J , take the vf700 , it will provide you the needed air flow for a good cooling but you will run it at full as the nf4 seems to run really hot when o/c.Quote:
Originally Posted by jermaink
Would the VF700 be any better than the Silencer for cooling? Or just for the better fit? I've got a AC Silencer ATI 5.2 on a X800XL and am getting idle temps of 34C and load temps of 52C, but I'd presume that a NB47J would need to be trimmed to fit with the Silencer.
With the Ultra-D, the chipset fan would seem to block a Silencer on the 1st slot pretty badly, but would be kinder to a card & silencer in the 2nd slot. How does the Expert compare in this regard? It looks like you're only getting a little bit more space than with an Ultra-D.
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Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
DAMN those guys!!!!!!!!!!!!! I want it NOW !!!!!!!! :slapass:
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Originally Posted by Scroatdog
same :slobber:
but we will need to wait a little bit ...
I hope we will not wait for nothing (not the same story as the crappy nf3 ultra-d)
is this mobo using the same bios as dfi ultra-d sli
good one.Quote:
Originally Posted by raydelee
its look like that, in DFI website there is no driver for the expert...
I hope so unless they are adding to the bios. I am quite happy with it the way it is and would hate to see things changed unless it was for the best or even options missing. More options is always a good thing though. Perhaps video card overclocking via bios like the MSI and gigabyte boards have. That would be sweet.Quote:
Originally Posted by raydelee
As I understood, the SLI-DR Expert is delayed, not the DFI Crossfire board ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by MickeyMouse
damn......1 month delay .........so mid-Nov........... :(Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
When is that Asus mobo supposed to come out?
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Originally Posted by raydelee
probably not , because of the new ram voltage circuit , maybe I'm wrong, but they will provide the same settings at least.
Better to get it right so we don't have trouble though :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
i agree but if this is true it's a bit disappointing that there is such a big delay.....Quote:
Originally Posted by kimandsally
Yeah, I'd rather have a delay than have an imperfect motherboard. :)
I'm with you man....but in the same breath, I'd go for the CF-DR (available VERY soon) before that if it performs well with my GTX!
yeah, but is a 1 month delay due to a glitch found so late in the game?
Anyone else starting to wonder what's the point if M2 is still coming out in Q1 '06? If this hits in November, the longest until M2 (assuming Q1 is correct) is 4 months. :(
Well - I am planning my upgrade to the DFI for the end of Novmeber anyways, so this might just all work out... Anyone know if pre-orders are available?
Meh, I'm getting the old rev. Nice changes, but not worth waiting for and who knows if it will clock any better, or possibly even worse like abit and epox's later rev boards tend to.
I doubt it will be a dud or anything... sounds like they are taking their time with it and get it done "right" (by the delay in shipping).. or that could mean it's troubled also, I guess. lol. oi!
Anyways, I am so liking that wider gap between the 16x lanes... I can use a full height maze4 on gpu0 now, which means full size memory sinks on the chips under the coolant feed barbs.
Well, they aren't getting it all completely right. They abandoned the Promise RAID controller they were initially going with for another Silicon Image.. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
I've been waiting to start this rig for some time. I may just say to hell with it and get tha Epox board.
that is true... that kind of sucks actually... the SI is so-so... and not using the NF4 raid is less overhead on the chipset, which I kind of like.. I have been using the SI controller on my neo4 and it has a problem with large files... I have to decode DVDs in 900meg segments to avoid BSOD issues... anyways... sorry OT.
Believe it or not, but most people could care less about the secondary RAID controller. The fact of the matter is that DFI has used Silicon Image for quite some time, and that has not deterred many from purchasing in the past.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scroatdog
deception``
Socket M2 is coming in Q2 2006 :fact:Quote:
Originally Posted by Psyche911
and the way DFI is going we'll be getting the boads in Q3
And if it was sapphire, it would probably be Q4 ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
how damn long we have to wait sometimes... Anyway, i don't think i will rush for Socket M2 when it comes out.. often the first boards are very buggy.
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Originally Posted by Rolle2k
honestly, when did sapphire release grouper, two months ago now?
its too bad as i would have been all over grouper had it been available on release, now im waiting for the CF BT
Why the BT? The DR will be out VERY shortly and will be better (although it looks like it might cost a crapload--that's still not 100% positive though).
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Originally Posted by deception``
Got no dispute with that, bro. But leaked prototype pics (leaked by DFI??? prob) had the Promise on it, and now it's gone. That is why the rant.
Yeah I'd rather have the DR too, Sapphires Grouper was being held hostage by ATI and now We see It again with No Crossfire cards or motherboards, Definately a paper launch. ATI needs more foundry capacity to make the chips most likely. ATI isn't a bad company nor are their Cards mind You, Although My noisy neighbor might be a bit bad, Besides She's not My type.
Could someone tell me the difference between CF / BT / DR? I don't know which ones which.
For what I read the CF-DR has the dfi design (same as the nf4 expert which has been designed by oscar wu )with a 6 layer PCB when the CF-BT has the ati design with a 4 layer PCB.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psyche911
corect me if I'm wrong.
I think you're right....the BT is named after BigToe and will likely be very good with memory compatibility and performace!! (not that the DR will be bad or anything :D)
Hmm might have to just go for the DR board then, cant wait another month and even though there are some very good/VERY cheap boards that will do a fill in role, in the end I/Me/Anyone am not satisfied with the cheap alternatives (and some that are not so cheap :( )
the CF BT is the reference halibut design (the one that usually gets better cpu clocks then the dfi's)
combined with oscar's memory trace tweaks, and all of the mosfets are in one spot for active cooling.
i fully expect it to kick ass, and be superior to the DR, which is why i am waiting for it.
Wicked. I want one too. I wonder what i am going to do with my old Ultra-D board
I agree with you. When I change my Ultra-D will be to CF-BT design. Did Big Toe confirm blue sky pcb color?Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
Should be available between the 24th and the 31st here in the states (US).Quote:
Hi *****,
The board should be available in about 2-3 weeks.
Thanks,
Ming-Huey Jeng
DFI San Jose
Marketing/PR Dept.
doh...that must be an auto-response...cuz i got the same one lol. Now on the 10th...hopefully some time this week then...i've been hearing on tuesdays though too...
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Originally Posted by MonkSP
pcb color hasnt been confirmed... tony is supposedly getting a board this week, i sure hope so.
http://www.cooltechzone.com/index.ph...k=view&id=1779Quote:
Not long ago, DFI went from being a mediocre board maker to a company that caters to enthusiasts with rock solid boards and extreme overclocking options. DFI’s success in the overclocking market appears to be almost instant, but we’ve been told that DFI was working on the enthusiast line of boards ever since 2000-2001 time frame. Not only that, but Abit’s (and industry’s) most renowned engineer Oskar Wu left the company and joined DFI, which resulted in excellent board layout and BIOS options. Now that ATI has finally introduced its Crossfire platform, it’s only matter of time before board manufacturers start releasing their Crossfire products in mass quantities.
An insider near DFI reported that the company is working on an ATI Crossfire board, which will be based on the reference design. The board name, although unofficial, is DFI CF-BT where CF stands for Crossfire and BT is supposedly the abbreviation of an industry consultant Tony Leech who’s been working with DFI for the past four years and is on DFI’s "advisory board" for research and development. According to an insider, he’s been assisting DFI with research and development aspects of the board, and DFI is supposedly honoring Leech by naming a board after him. With that said, DFI USA and DFI Taiwan are still discussing the board name.
Naming aside, the insider reported that unlike Sapphire, DFI would continue to use high quality components to ensure stability and support for extreme overclocking that the enthusiast community expects. In order to release the board at a comparatively lower price, DFI may remove the postcode reader and replace it with four LED lights. Continuing with its tradition of selecting rather vibrant colors for its motherboards, DFI is expected to color the PCB sky blue to give it the usual DFI appeal. Whether DFI will add this product to its LANParty product lineup is unknown as well. The PCB color hasn’t been finalized either.
As you can probably tell, DFI still has ways to go before it’s ready to market the board with fruitful colors, a name after a consultant and possibly with a new product line, but one thing is for sure: DFI is on the final stages of tweaking the board. With that said, we have received information that DFI is expecting to launch the board sometime in October 2005. The pricing of the board is currently unavailable as well.
Info on the DFI CF-BT question.
Can anyone tell me whats the deal with the EPS12V thingy? Looking at this new board, it only need like 24 pin plug. Can i use it with my enermax noisetaker 600w without the need of getting a new PSU?
I just hope, unlike RDX200, this CF-BT will have SATA-II RAID. Guess they will do aim for sky blue pcb color. I will finally have an acrilic pannel!
Aiming the release 3 weeks after the 1st model is beeing test isn't placing that in much a hurry? I know the target should be x-mas but people wqon't buy if its not well tested and developed
Unless DFI adds an external SATAII controller, it's not possible because both boards would use SB450 southbridge which AFAIK doesn't have SATAII implementedQuote:
Originally Posted by MonkSP
Btw, this is the nF4 SLI-DR Expert thread, and for the DFI Crossfire boards, there is another thread, which is even named "official"... ;)
http://www.icomputers.nl/product_det...=1091&S_ID=411
I talkt today with this shopowner and he says he get this board an 18-10.
He also says he is real close with DFI.
Could this be trough???
4pin will work afaik.. but of course 8 will be betterQuote:
Originally Posted by knob
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Originally Posted by apesoccer
Source???
http://www.linuxelectrons.com/articl...50301100654152
I wish DFI would use that chip, still using the pci bus for things such as hard disk controllers is just retarded.
Holy %#%$%#I just looked up that port multiplier. It's a 1 to 5 multiplier.. that means it supports 10 disks!!Quote:
The SiI 3132 offers advanced RAID capability through Silicon Image's SATARaid™ software RAID management utility, which comes bundled with the chip. The SiI 3132 supports RAID 0 and 1 when two drives are connected directly to the chip's two SATA ports. When multiple drives are connected to the SiI 3132 via a port multiplier such as Silicon Image's SiI 3726™, RAID 0, 1, 10 and 5 are supported.
http://www.siliconimage.com/products...x?id=26&ptid=1
Sad thing though, is that it connects through only pci-e 1x, meaning a 2.5Gb/s bottleneck. While a single SATA II port is already 3Gb/s (and it has two)
I guess that's still decent :) It'll take about 5 disks to max it out.
Here's an implementation of their port multipliers: http://www.cooldrives.com/cosapomubrso.html (i imagine they can be placed onboard)
If they use the Sil 3132 and one port multiplier that would make 6 SATA II ports plus 4 of the NF4 = 10 :D now that would be sweet. And if you want more you could hook up another port multiplier to make 14 SATA II ports. :slobber: (they should make the second port on the sil 3132 that isn't using a port multiplier a different color so you know where to connect the multiplier to :) )
I suppose manufacturers don't like to drive up the costs, so i'd be happy with just the two ports from the sil 3132 (some intel boards have it like this), then give people the ability to buy the port multipliers as add-ons. (maybe a 3.5inch bay device with two multipliers turning 2 sata ports into 10, powered by a floppy power cable.).
Can anyone fill me in on the difference between the UT SLI-DR and the SLI-DR? I think it used a different LAN chip or something, but I could hardly see the significance.
the UT has all the accessories like the breakoutbox, carrying case, and some other random crap.Quote:
Originally Posted by jermaink
Seriously the PCI bus HAS TO GOQuote:
Originally Posted by Gogar
I don't really see PCI-E x1 as a limitation... What applicaiton uses constant burst speed on all 5 drives simultaneously? Christ man I have 10 hard drives in my system and usually only 0 to 2 are active at any given time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gogar
Well I guess if you were using a RAID5 or something...
Good idea. I say the more SATA ports the better. I mean with SATA you can actually have a 10 disks hooked up. God it was a nightmare just trying to get 6 IDE drives connected due to their cable design (at least in my case).Quote:
Originally Posted by Gogar
So what, in your guys' opinion, would be the optimal chip and setup for an onboard RAID solution? I am still under the impression that, if one were to go RAID 5, a hardware (i.e. Promise or 3Ware card) solution is always better than a software solution, such as the NForce.
Admittedly, I don't know much about RAID, other than the RAID-0 I have going through my onboard Intel controller. I mean, I know what the various RAID levels are and soforth, just not completely versed in what the best implementations are.
BTW, I can't wait for the 24th (Expert hopefully shows up)
It's just the other way around, the UT is the *lite* version without the accessoires. the SLI-DR is the one with the extra's.Quote:
Originally Posted by J-Mag
oh my bad... :hitself: whatever it is dont buy the big box versionQuote:
Originally Posted by Vassili
Hardware controllers are always a better option than the onboard software raid controllers. By installing a 3rd party raid card, you'd take a load off your processor allowing it to focus on other tasks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scroatdog
Raid 5 is ideally what you'd run as it combines both speed and safety but requires 3+ hard drives to implement.....
That new XFX SATA RAID card looks baddo! It's driver-less and supports all the common raid modes, 0, 1, 5, 0+1... but I really want to avoid using my pci slots due to the BTX orientation and my rad.
Isn't that just what happens when you use RAID 0 or 5?Quote:
Originally Posted by J-Mag
How about this PSU, should it be good for OC :confused: :slobber:
http://www.silverstonetek.com/products-65zf.htm
Yes it is a very stable psu with a excellent price vs performance niche.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dani
I saw this for as little as 169$ US .(egg) :fact:
IMO very good buy for any enthusuiast. Would probably power a decent water pump and overclock your board with ease. :coffee:
From what I've read online in reviews, It has to have enough of a load on the +5.0v rail so that the +12.0v rail will have enough Amps as they are cross linked and I'd say stay clear of It, OCZ is supposed to be bringing out a 750w or so psu for the enthusiast. Besides I had a 650w st65zf and even though It ran by itself I could never run a motherboard with one and so I sold It to a guy on ebay and the buyer couldn't do any better and yeah It would still run by itself too, weird, although the one I had was very possibly used as It arrived damaged in the mail and yeah It had no insurance and I thought since It worked maybe It was ok, But just not for My motherboard, I found someone else recently who has a St65ZF 650w psu and an H8DCE and that person likes It very much, So I would have to look at getting a new one again from a regular retailer as I spent $178.00 and wasted It. :( Oh well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dani
For what it's worth, Shamino and LardeArse used that PSU in one of their #1 #3dmark Runs ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dani
personally i dont like silverstone.... YMMV though.
Anyone been able to get ahold of the SLI DR Expert yet? ;)
i reckon we'll see some people with these next weekQuote:
Originally Posted by IvanAndreevich
What do you think about my modded Antec TrueControl 550w 20pin/4pin.?
It's enough for DFI CF mobo with 24pin/8pin?
..and hard OC..
I think I gonna need new PSU, thats why I asked you about that Silverstone :)
Exactly why I just sold my Antec TC 550 and bought a ocz 600sli. I considered the zf65t but OZC is more mainstream and you pay 50 dollars more. Which, may not be worth it for less maximum power 600ocz vs. >650 zuess. But we will see if I don't like the OCZ i'm selling it and getting the Zuess. :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dani
x1 still has 500 MB/sec.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gogar
Using 5 drives, even if they deliver 70 MB/sec each, gets you up to 350 MB/sec theoretically, and in practice it's probably more like 200 MB/sec due to controller losses.
And you don't share those 500 MB/sec with other devices. Although of course total system throughput will be challenged at some point.
PCI-e 1x has 2.5Gb/s in each direction.
So it has a cap of 2.500.000.000 / 8 / 1024 / 1024 = 298 MB/s in each direction.
And that's without protocol overhead. In general it's said that it can do 266MB/s.
If you assume one disk does 70MB/s, that means it'll max out with somewhere between 3.8 and 4.2 disks.
Ofcourse you can do this in two directions at the same time because it's pci-express, so copying from a 4 disk RAID 0 to another 4 disk RAID 0 on the same controller should go at full speed. (damn i wanna see that in action :) )
The Seasonic S12 600W looks to be the perfect PSU for me. Powerful, efficient, and very quiet (and has 8 pin mobo connector). Only problems are slightly expensive, and that weird issue with other DFI motherboards, though this seems mainly cured with the latest revision.
@jermaink
when you order you s12 ask for the last release A02 , apparently the issue are fixed with this one .
I have that PSU and I like it a lot... you do need to make sure you balance loads across the four rails, but if you do that it's power output is strong and stable. I know about the 5v thing needing to be loaded to get the max out of the 12v rail... I am not pressing this psu hard enough for that to matter too much... I eventually will upgrade to an OCZ, now that the SLI certified ones are out with the dual pci-e power leads that 600 looks mighteeee nice. but the SS seems to work fine for me now, so I see no reason to tear my wiring out for not much gain... anywaysQuote:
Originally Posted by Dani
EDIT: ok - so anyways, where in the US can I "order" (pre-order) this expert series board? Or, I should say, I am in the US, where's the best place for me to order it from? :banana:
Ive got the revision A2. It's lying dormant in its box right now, and sleeving with blue UV (I will NEVER do that again. What a PITA!). Well, it's almost fully sleeved. There is no way I can sleeve the SATA power lines, as the end connectors have NO WAY of coming off. I'm so pissed. I'm gonna have to use some blak 1/4 inch split loom I have. :rolleyes:
wow... I feel your pain.. I have sleeved a LOT of my lines... all of the visable ones... why not try some pre-sleaved SATA power extenders?Quote:
Originally Posted by Scroatdog
something like this might work... but it does not use the actual SATA lead from your psu..
Hmmm, thx for the info, Im only concentrate on CPU's and cant push on +5V rail :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by revenant
Nah, won't work. But thanks for the link, though.
My drives will not be visible, nor the wires going to them for the most part. What will be visible, however, is everything coming out of the PSU and then going behind the right side. I guess it won't be so bad. Just aggravating that they would put a non-removable SATA connector on there.
So - where are the pre-order spots for the wiley and illusive expert series DFI SLI DR?? :)
No need to take the connector off, just cut the wire and then solder them back after you put the sleeves on ;) I did this with my Zippy 700W:Quote:
Originally Posted by Scroatdog
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/3...ciesata5gu.jpg
Going slightly off topic here, But I see You use the Silverstone st65zf psu, Cn You tell Me what You have on the +5.0v rail versus the +12.0 rails of this psu?Quote:
Originally Posted by revenant
I ask as I couldn't get this motherboard to fire up with a Silverstone st65zf 650w psu once(650w psu was possibly damaged from delivery as It had arrived in two bags with no insurance and the case slightly bent, psu would fire up, But plug 24 pin into motherboard and nothing would happen, motherboard LED would glow orange and not glow Green as It's supposed to), It will start with the 550w psu listed as It has one 36Amp rail(not a Peak Amp rating I think, It starts the motherboard by just turning the psu switch on by itself, neat), But I need to replace My psu in zoom2 as that PC has a failing psu and zoom3 is a better match as I like to run a minimum of components in a secondary PC mainly used for crunching for Seti.
What would You put on the 5.0v rail of zoom3 below(As long as It's not a fan) to balance the +12.0v rails that I have not listed? Mind You I could add only one more internal 5.25" drive bay(Three 5.25" drive bays are being used for fdd, dvd/cd burner and hdd) as the 3.5" drive bays are gone mounts and all, I was planning on equipping the last 5.25" drive bay with an FM radio device I saw not too long back and It could play cassette tapes too like a car stereo and I think It uses both 5.0 volts and 12.0 volts.
Here is what I have in My 2nd PC zoom3(This is all I have with no lights in zoom3 as the Door has no window and being It's 35' away(cable wise It's more like 65') in another room[keyboard is in kitchen along with mouse, scanner, one half of a usb extender[uses ethernet and is on 75' cable], 6-port usb hub and LCD monitor(No usb in monitor)] It doesn't really need one that badly).
zoom3 specs below:
# Supermicro H8DCE motherboard,
# 1-SuperTalent 1Gb Reg/ECC PC3200 127x72 64x8 Dimm[Samsung/D32RB1GW], (connected to motherboard),
# 2-Opteron [C0 stepping] model 244[Rev. AL] cpus, (connected to motherboard),
# Enermax EG651P-VE 550w Power Supply, (connected to motherboard),
# Albatron GeForce PCX5750 16x PCI Express Video Card w/256MB ram, (connected to motherboard),
# Chieftec Matrix Lime Green Mid-Tower ATX case [Dremeled to be E-ATX Compatible], (2-LEDs connected to motherboard),
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# WD 80Gb 7200rpm 2Mb cache hdd(uses both 5.0 and 12.0 volts),
# NEC ND1100A DVD+RW drive(uses both 5.0 and 12.0 volts),
# Teac 1.44Mb fdd(uses both 5.0 and 12.0 volts),
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# Sata Coverter box for HDD drive(uses 5.0 volts, 12v in cable),
# Sata Coverter box for DVD/CD burner(uses 5.0 volts, 12v in cable),
# usb Acer 56x cd-rom drive(self powered, uses some 5.0 from usb possibly),
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# 3-Delta 120x38mm 150cfm fans[2-cpu fans, 1-exhaust fan], (uses 12.0 volts only, no LEDs),
# 1-Vantec Tornado 80mm 84.1cfm fan[For Chipset], (uses 12.0 volts only, no LEDs),
# 1-Thermaltake 80mm 75.7cfm fan[For Chipset], (uses 12.0 volts only, no LEDs),
# 1-Chieftec 80mm 20cfm fan[In Door, May not always be running, while testing door may be off], (uses 12.0 volts only, no LEDs),
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usb devices below are shared with another PC like zoom2 with a usb hub/vga/kvm switch!
# usb hub/vga/kvm switch(self powered, uses some 5.0 from usb possibly),
# usb Canon CanoScan D1250U2F flatbed scanner(self powered, uses some 5.0 from usb possibly),
# usb Micro innovations Micro Stack 6 port hub(self powered, uses some 5.0 from usb possibly),
# usb MS 5 Button Optical mouse(usb uses 5.0 volts),
# usb Teac 1.44Mb fdd(usb uses 5.0 volts),
# usb extender over ethernet cable(usb uses 5.0 volts)
# usb BTC AT keyboard w/ps/2 adapter & ps/2 to usb adapter(usb or ps/2 some 5.0),
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# 2-Thermalright XP-120 heatsinks[Case modded for two XP-120 heatsinks].
That's a good question... Well, the mobo draws some 5v juice... and I think my LED cannons do, only two of those, but that would not even count realy.. I have two hard drives, two DVD drives, no floppy... my koolance 720bk which is powered by one 4 pin molex... 12v prolly. two 120mm fans, two CCFL invertors, and the LIS POP VFD display... seems like a lot of 12v devices to me... I think getting a load on the 5v is only really important for maxing the PSU out... or I think I read that... so with little or no load on the 5v side you only get so many 12v amps... Anyways... sounds like you got a broken unit, because mine has been very good for me (*knocking on wood* lol).... Anyways, sorry I could not be more informative.
I just edited My question and It was meant to be short, Key on keyboard(Turbo key I think) got stuck and keyboard and mouse acted weird for a bit until I somehow un did whatever I did to cause the keyboard to not allow Me to type. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by revenant
Its just been made available for pre-order here in Singapore. Release date 15/11/2005.
After conversion, around US$230.
http://216.147.36.17/livestore/produ...oducts_id=2617
:woot:
What about any US retailer/e-tailers? I have seen this, but they are in CANADA:
http://www.us.ncix.com/products/inde...1&membership=0
I just ordered it from www.icomputers.nl and they are saying that they can deliver in 6 too 10 days so ... I hope they are right 'cause I already sold my abit and don't have a replacement for it ....
But we'll see what the future will bring us.
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Originally Posted by EvilWhiteDragon
I'm sorry................ but $213-230 dollars is a bit MUCH for a re-hashed NF4 motherboard, don't you think???
What could they have possibly added to this board to justify such an outrageous price??????
Great. Now my AMD build will be delayed even further, until it doesn't cost Bizarro-world prices anymore.
$230.00 ????? You have got to be kididng me. :slapass: :nono:
So what's the expected time when these things will be released in bulk?
yeah we are paying around USD$225 for them here in Australia....i've got mine on order...can't wait until it's here.....
no problems. :) but I am not sure what devices to use to load the 5v line more, other than maybe some fan conversions for 5v... maybe lighting? I guess that could be a reason why this PSU does suck a little, because it's hard to get the full potential out of it because there are dependencies which are not reasy to fulfil in order to get it balanced for optimal power output... anyways, sorry I could not more knowledgeable about that.Quote:
Originally Posted by zoom314
anyways, back to the topic, I still have not seen any pre-orders in the US for trhe expert board. foo!!
Question for anyone who might know, does that board which sticks up near the audio output jacks have the "break out" boxes with the audio jacks on it? or is there an essential part of the audio hardware on it? I am not sure it will fit with my plans to put a 2nd radiator in while installing this mobo... because with the BTX orientation, that little "spit" of pcb looks like it really stick up high, and it will be a tight fit for that as the rad is going in the back of my v1000 attached to the rear 120mm fan. So can I run the kajan audio in 5.1 with that pcb off? or it it essential? How is the quality of that sound? is it even worth the trouble?
Anyways, even as it stands now I am going to have to install the rad with the barbs at the bottom, up-side-down I guess, because with this board the lowest pci-e slot is going to use the lowest pci slot on the case, which is where the barbs for the rad were going to be... anyways, this is going to be an interesting puzzle. others who are bying this board might want to consider that also.
As far as i know its the same Karajan audio module as on their curent NF4 series, so therefore it DOES have the "breakout" boxes for the audio input/outputs and without it you cant use the onboard audio...hope that helps.Quote:
Originally Posted by revenant