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Sooooo close tonight.....
Still only around -30c to -40c on the cards. 175 points from 05' WR with only 3860mhz lol:
http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/.../123601748.jpg
50 points from 03' WR. 44k soon :)
Run was at 740/2144. 800+ on the cores should give around 44.5k
http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/.../123601745.jpg
Almost there KP:toast:
Thanx for the tip...."Lucus" ;) Effect on clockability?Quote:
Originally Posted by LucusScott
Thx again. I'll try it in a bit. 123-125pci-x freq was cool on the intel board with 512mb gtx, wasn't sure about the DFI.Quote:
Originally Posted by LucusScott
You don't even lok like your pushing the cards in 03 :toast: Keep up the nice work.
Got shamino :D
http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/.../123716972.jpg
Next up Kinc and Overklokk. Only 60 points more and I got it. Had some minor problems with the cards last session, but I think I got it sorted now. Cards are now bench stable through 05' at 2171+ on the mem. GPU temps were about -45c to -50c or so today. Mother nature is giving me fits again, otherwise I think I would be sitting here at 44k right now. 118 pci-e did help a littlebit, but not great in 05'. I got about 70 points xtra in 03' and maybe 10 in 05' I can take 05' WR with around 3870 on the chip I think. I am bailing on partying later to try for these two WR's tonight. I just cant stop.
You're the man Vince.... It's going to be a smashing new year for you! All the best!!
That all wishes may come true!!!;)
WTF :confused: ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by k|ngp|n
Good luck KP :)
Happy new year guys! :toast:
Well G...I couldnt seem to convince my girlfriend that orb domination was worthy of cancelling our dinner and pary plans..lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by G H Z
Will be benching later today ;)
A little CPU testing with def single card. Getting real close to 3900mhz with 15x for 3d stable. I think this will be good enough for now :O
-92c held for whole run:
http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/.../123878288.jpg
Good call. I should grab some up tommorrow....why not. Last tccd I used was gskill long time ago. WHats my best bet for getting some good ones?
Dam nice Kingpin :)
Looks like Kinc and i must start upp the rigg again soon :) My FX57 did 01 with singel GTX today @ 3906mhz with -105c load temp on evap . But my w2k instal was bad so only godt about 48473p :(
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8847154
Wil reinstall OS and get som better cooling on the GTX in a few days. Think my fx can do about 3930mhz under my 3 stager 3d stable :)
Nice work V, I see you're almost there in 05 on the HoF.... :)
3930 would be very nice. I prolly won't run 01 with the SLI setup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Overklokk
Sounds like a battle is coming.... GL with your hardware. You guys are tops on your own...as a team just awsome :) :toast:
He got me on gt2 by a little too.
2gb scores how much better than 1gb clock for clock?
2gb good clockers on average?
2x512 for now sounds good, thanx for the link. Dual core will be next thing for sure. The numbers look great. If these cards survive the next week, I will run them with a dc chip eventually :) I have some pretty tight solid gpu containers that should be done in the next day or two. I was going to wait till they were finished to bench these cards really hard, thats why the low core clocks. I only needed enough gpu power for the top spots, think I am good now. THis goofy container I made for the middle card has 0 capacity ;) and I dont want to take the volts up to higher than 1.8 on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by LucusScott
A couple of issues with this though....Quote:
Originally Posted by LucusScott
1. Can the cpu run 300FSB @ those temps? I have a funny feeling that the cpu's gonna freak out at that speed @ those temps.... :p:
2. If k|ngp|n's using an expert board, there may be some issues running TCCD.
3. That G.Skill TCCD is G.Skill LA's - IIRC, those run @ guaranteed rated timings @ 2t. 1t if you're lucky ;)
1. So you're saying that less VDD = higher FSB achievable in the cold?Quote:
Originally Posted by LucusScott
2. I have issues with my expert @ 300+ FSB, TCCD, and my 57 :( (Then again I didn't try the x13 mult:p: )
3. OK, that's better...Didn't think that LA's were the new "have-to-get" TCCD's ;)
The best TCCD out there atm is G.Skill FF and The best 2gig kit is Crucial ballistix pc4000. Then again for the best TCCD ever I'm sure there are some individuals around here who have access to the best around ;) i think you know who I'm talking about hehe.
Tim
Wait a sec, just re-read and did you mean to say VTT not VDD?Quote:
Originally Posted by LucusScott
VDD = Vdimm, VTT = what you're talking about :p: - 1/2 of VDD....Quote:
Originally Posted by LucusScott
The best TCCD I've seen were the new Geil One S. SPI32mb stable @ ddr 644 2.5-3-3-7. Seems pretty good to me.
Was that OPB? If so I don't think it was Geil:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by moddolicous
I think it was AndreYang, I think he beat out OPB a couple days after OPB grabbed the record.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cpt Twitchy
In that case I have no clue hehe. I just remember OPB recently posting a screen of 32Xmhz at 2.5-3-3-6 in one of team italys threads.
Here we go. Check post 13. Not a finished run though oops http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=84316
Don't bother with 2GB kits for 3D benching... 2GB of Samsung UCCC (8-4-4-3.0) or Infineon Rev.C (5-2-3-3.0) will not beat TCCD clock-for-clock. I don't have Crucial Ballistix (8-3-3-3.0) so I can't give you any results with that, but I would not expect it to beat TCCD (6-3-3-2.5-T).Quote:
Originally Posted by k|ngp|n
Recent TCCD has kicked BH5/UTT CH out of the benching memory throne or what? Why not just use a killer 1gb BH5 kit?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=237Quote:
Originally Posted by afireinside
I don't want to hijack Vince's thread but as I said in my other thread:Quote:
Originally Posted by afireinside
I think that very good clocking 2x512MB BH-5/UTT is still the way to go and better for benching, especially when fighting with severe cold-bug that impairs CPU's ability to go high on HTT :)
Funny...cuz LucusScott ;) says exactly the opposite:Quote:
Originally Posted by bachus_anonym
Quote:
Originally Posted by LucusScott
Steven,
300x13 6-3-3-2.5 will eat 260x15 6-2-2-2.0 (no doubt) but ONLY If you manage to run 300HTT. If particular CPU will do that under very cold temps, then 300MHz TCCD is the way to go. I have not seen anyone running 300MHz on TCCD above 3600MHz so we don't know If cold bug will not kick in @ 3900MHz preventing from going this high on HTT :)
edit: Also, it's true that low multi might get you some better HTT compared to higher one when fighting cold bug, but x13 is not exactly what we would call "low multiplier" anymore ;)
CNC normally you can send a cad file to a machine shop and they can make it for you but there is a price.
I don;t know waht a cnc stand for but its an automated mill end/lathe. Some models are millend only some lathe only and then the all in ones. The range new from around $25,000 for the most basic of cnc's. I have seen them as high as 500,000. It was a 6axis 4spindle 12,500rpm beast.
A cnc machine is seen in the pics in the 1st post. It cuts the material. They are thousands of dollars. You would want to go to a machine shop (look it up in the yellow pages) and give them a drawing of what you want and have them program and make it for you.
it stands for computer numeric control or something like that.
Your welcome and enjoy the learning.
Well that machine is in the hundreds of thousands of dollars.. near to 1/2 million with additional hardware and controls...Quote:
Originally Posted by vapb400
WOW:eek2: :eek2: :slobber:Quote:
Originally Posted by chilly1
High bandwith will only help for 3dmark... Tccd aint gonna kick bh5/utt in hexus pifast or superpi. If so, everyone would bench with tccd, but again the coldbug cant afford high htt. So 2 times why tccd aint great for this kind of benching.Quote:
Originally Posted by bachus_anonym
For example 2x 280 2-2-2-5 will kick arse 320 2.5-3-3-7.... Just try it yourself (i did @ pifast and superpi 1m) 320 isnt even enough to beat the 280.... you need more than 325+ to beat it.
Ok i both have 2x256 but will do what i wrote above.. youre right, and i dont know what 2x512 will do .....
Very nice work Kingpin!!:clap: :clap:
This might be a stupid question but is thermal compound still used on the cpu with DICE/LN2 containers?
@Waus-mod and LucusScott...
Let's just leave Vince's thread alone here as our discussion does not fit in this section very well... If you want to debate further, I would rather see you guys in my thread - 3DMark2001/03/05 .: vs :. 512MB/1024MB/2048MB - Comparison.
Thanks for understanding :)
Of course, you need some way of transfering the heat ;) Most everyone uses AS ceramique because it works at COLD temps and can be had for cheap in large quantities. I believe kyosen has used AS5 with good results and I've heard a few people say generic white paste actually works best. KP what do you use?Quote:
Originally Posted by MTP04
Nice work, Kingpin:toast:
@afireinside:
Can AS 5 be good with xtreme low temps, dont think soCode:AS 5:
Thermal Resistance:
<0.0045°C-in2/Watt (0.001 inch layer)
Thermal Conductance:
>350,000W/m2 °C (0.001 inch layer)
Average Particle Size:
<0.49 microns <0.000020 inch
Extended Temperature Limits:
Peak: –50°C to >180°C Long-Term: –50°C to 130°C
AS Ceramique
Thermal Resistance:
<0.007°C-in2/Watt (0.001 inch layer)
Thermal Conductance:
>200,000W/m2.°C (0.001 inch layer)
Average Particle Size:
<0.38 microns <0.000015 inch
( 67 particles lined up in a row equal 1/1000th of an inch. )
Temperature limits:
Peak: –150°C to >180°C Long-Term: –150°C to 125°C
AS5 will get "hard" and the thermal conductivity will be bad! Use silicon or Ceramic.
Thanks for the replys guys:)
Good info there Dani, I thought that might be the case with AS5.
He did - until I suggested he use AS ceramique - now check his new OC's ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by afireinside
By Dani's chart, AS5 should be OK for something like Mach2 or so. 150 for long term use, thats about what some mach2's do. Maybe not a modded mach2.
I used to used the cheapy stuff...but now I use ceramique faithfully. Once I started to bench ln2 on a reg basis, I realized that the thinner paste gets thin and watery and tends breaks down after regular freezing. With the ceramique, I dont have to break down the conainer/insulation to remount as much due to temps from the paste getting bad. It stays thick longer.Quote:
Originally Posted by afireinside
I am working to get ddr 640 here in a few days on my new -20 bench.
This particular run is at ddr 630 1:1. I lub this ram.
Been using this Geil ONe S to find the linits before Going all out. Having excellent luck so far.
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/4...woot1iy.th.jpg
You leave it on after a run? I always remove the unit and let everything warm up... Guess I don't have to.Quote:
Originally Posted by k|ngp|n