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10-04-2005, 05:59 AM
Dumo

Heres a quick one.....

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/523...shot0340xl.jpg
10-04-2005, 01:57 PM
The Coolest

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozzimark

haven't gotten to oc'ing yet. 63c on my opteron 144. note that it's actually a venus core, not san diego

No its not. s939 Opteron 1xx are based on the San Diego core.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GMX

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: C, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2C, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20FC2
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Sempron 2800+ (Venice)
CPU Speed: 2800.00 (350.00 x 8.0)
Revision: DH8-E6
Platform: Socket 754
Maximum Case Temperature = 69C

I need about 1.7v for 2832mhz stable. But below 2800mhz i need alot less.

The Semprons have this value set to a static 69C, all chips will have the same values! Only A64 (FX, X2) and Opteron chips have variable MaxTCase/VCore.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fr4nk

Heres mine :)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18...99999/maxt.jpg

Edit: that app says my core is toledo but on cpu-Z its says manchester :fact:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18...9/cpuzcopy.jpg

-Fr4nk

CPU-z is wrong. 20F32 CPUID stands for a Toledo, you have a "crippled" Toledo CPU, which in most cases overclocks better than the real Manchesters.

Quote:

Originally Posted by alpha0ne

:confused: I wonder why some have a startup Vcore of only 1.3 and others are 1.35 ????

As I already stated in this thread, A64s (FX, X2 included) have variable vcore and variable MaxTCase values.

Quote:

Originally Posted by don_vercetti

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: B, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2B, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20FB1
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Manchester)
CPU Speed: 2100.66 (210.07 x 10.0)
Revision: BH9-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.300v
Maximum Case Temperature = 71C

Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Contact me at: Arthur_Liberman@hotmail.com

This is a CDBHE 0533 UPMW.

Looks bloody nice so far, currently priming 2100mhz at 1.26v. Only got it going an hour or so ago. Temps hit 31c on my WC, with room temps of 21c.

And isn't the case temperature of 71c decent? Has it been seen that these temps correlate to OC performance at all?

From the so far limited results we have, the higher the MaxTCase, the higher the chips will OC on average, you have one of the highest MaxTCase temp I've seen so far. Judging by the really high MaxTCase and the low stock VCore (1.3v and not the more common 1.35v) if my theory is correct, your chip is supposed to be a gem, or at least nor far from that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mongoled

I cant be arsed shifting through this whole thread to find the information im looking for, so I hope someoce can tell me wht is so important abt the 'Maximum Case Temperature' with regards to overclocking. Wht is the general consensus.

mong

The theory is explained in the first post.
As a rule of thumb, the higher the MaxTCase rating on a chip is, and the lower the stock voltage, the higher are the chances of getting a better OC out of the CPU.
10-04-2005, 02:14 PM
njkid32

Hey The Coolest, I was wondering how come my max case temp is 61c and my chip oc's like crazy? Mine is an early 3800 manchester (see sig). I thought the higher the max case temp the better oc you will get. Now my voltage is 1.3v so maybe thats why,,, dont know.
10-04-2005, 02:24 PM
The Coolest

All CPUs are unique, its just in *GENERAL* processors with higher rating, and lower stock voltage overclock better than processors with lower ratings. In addition 61C and up is a very good MaxTCase rating.
10-04-2005, 02:26 PM
njkid32

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Coolest

All CPUs are unique, its just in *GENERAL* processors with higher rating, and lower stock voltage overclock better than processors with lower ratings. In addition 61C and up is a very good MaxTCase rating.

Ok cool,, I was just wondering. I do like the proggy though! :toast:
10-04-2005, 09:44 PM
s7e9h3n

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dumo

Heres a quick one.....

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/523...shot0340xl.jpg

:slobber: :slobber: :slobber:
That's almost as unique as this one ;) :
Rev E6 A64 4000+
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/4749/maxtcase4md.jpg
10-05-2005, 10:02 AM
Concorde Rules

Code:

CPU Information (CPU #1): Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 7, Stepping: 1 Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 27, Stepping: 1 CPUID String: 20F71 Processor APIC: 0 Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3700+ (San Diego) CPU Speed: 2871.27 (261.02 x 11.0) Revision: SH8-E4 Platform: Socket 939 Startup VCore: 1.400v Maximum Case Temperature = 59C

Week 0515, CABGE. 3700+ San Diego

2800mhz = 1.396V CPU-Z
2850mhz = 1.404V CPU-Z
2900mhz = 1.501V CPU-Z (Im not quite sure on this one, but Im trying for 3ghz so I will get there!)

Concorde
10-05-2005, 11:52 AM
njkid32

Here is the 3200 I just got its already done 3.5ghz 1m stable--

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: F, Stepping: 0
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2F, Stepping: 0
CPUID String: 20FF0
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (Venice)
CPU Speed: 3000.76 (300.08 x 10.0)
Revision: DH8-E3
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 65C

Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Contact me at: Arthur_Liberman@hotmail.com
10-05-2005, 12:39 PM
The Coolest

Quote:

Originally Posted by njkid32

Here is the 3200 I just got its already done 3.5ghz 1m stable--

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: F, Stepping: 0
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2F, Stepping: 0
CPUID String: 20FF0
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (Venice)
CPU Speed: 3000.76 (300.08 x 10.0)
Revision: DH8-E3
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 65C

Written by: Arthur Liberman.

Figures, it has a 65C MaxTCase rating ;)
10-08-2005, 03:12 AM
alpha0ne

Quote:

Originally Posted by njkid32

Here is the 3200 I just got its already done 3.5ghz 1m stable--

Hey nj very nice OC there

What week is that CPU, I notice its an E3
10-08-2005, 04:48 AM
njkid32

Quote:

Originally Posted by alpha0ne

Hey nj very nice OC there

What week is that CPU, I notice its an E3

Thans! Its a 0521DPMW
10-14-2005, 10:25 AM
rahtid

i'm a newb to forums please bare with me i just orderd 2x1gig crucial ballistics ddr500 for my asus a8nsli prem w/4800x2. Do i need to overclock the cpu to 250 w12x multiplier. Or can i just set the ram to 500 in bio without overclocking. old ram was corsair xms 2-2-2-5 but had to back it down to 1t to get a desent overclock. but still had fast timming. know if i run the ddr500 at 2t will i be able to overclock to the same speeds as the ddr400 while at 1t. if i did not explain my problem correctly or in the wrong thread please let me know

asus a8n-sli prem
corsair xms pc3200 ddr400 cl 2-2-2-5 (old)
2gig crucial balistic (new) pc4000
xfx 7800gtx oc
coolmax 600 psu
audigy 2 zs
10-14-2005, 10:33 AM
don_vercetti

eerrrr
wrong thread
10-16-2005, 12:35 PM
ugotd8

I've had two X2 3800+ chips. One had a MaxTCase temp of 61, the other 65. Both were rev. JH9-E6 and had a stock vcore of 1.35. The one rated at 61 would only get to 2.5Ghz and needed a ton of vcore (1.6) to do it. The one rated at 65 will get to 2.6Ghz stable and only needed a vcore of 1.47.

Guess which one I kept. :)
10-16-2005, 02:20 PM
EvilWhiteDragon

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 3, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 23, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20F32
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 2595.40 (216.28 x 12.0)
Revision: JH9-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 59C

I do have to say that my CPU has been over like 80c degrees ( when my watercooling failed) and remainded stable till atleast 75C so, guess I'm pretty lucky :) But then again that is with the crappy abit temperature sensor thing ... It can't be right .... I know that ..
10-16-2005, 06:24 PM
Perc

not my max oc infact it was the first oc i did out of the box as you can see not to bad uh and look at that nice high t-case :)

peace perc,
10-17-2005, 03:46 AM
Slipknot

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: F, Stepping: 0
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2F, Stepping: 0
CPUID String: 20FF0
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3800+ (Venice)
CPU Speed: 2903.36 (241.95 x 12.0)
Revision: DH8-E3
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 59C

Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at: http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com...topic.php?t=83
10-17-2005, 04:39 AM
The Coolest

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perc

not my max oc infact it was the first oc i did out of the box as you can see not to bad uh and look at that nice high t-case :)

peace perc,

Download the updated version, it will now recognize the s939 Opterons. Same link
10-17-2005, 05:56 AM
eva2000

my Opteron 144 CABYE 0536 GPMW

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...x/cpuz_cbi.jpg

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...cpuz_cbi_3.jpg
10-17-2005, 06:43 AM
Slipknot

Quote:

Originally Posted by eva2000

my Opteron 144 CABYE 0536 GPMW

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...x/cpuz_cbi.jpg

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...cpuz_cbi_3.jpg

Did ya overclocked ya CPU? How much MHz and Vcore did ya get?
10-17-2005, 09:34 AM
furyfax

1 Attachment(s)

Here's my contribution, 3200+ venice
10-17-2005, 02:53 PM
Otaking71

long time lurker.

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: F, Stepping: 0
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2F, Stepping: 0
CPUID String: 20FF0
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (Venice)
CPU Speed: 2574.75 (286.08 x 9.0)
Revision: DH8-E3
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 55C

Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at: http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com...topic.php?t=83

i can do 2.6..but not fully stable..figures from the max temp though....definitely some kind of correlation.
10-18-2005, 04:18 AM
eva2000

my 2nd Opteron 144 CABYE 0536 GPMW http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?p=23158#post23158

it's maxTcase is 2C higher than other one at 59C and clocks higher with 0.05v less vcore than my first Opteron 144 CABYE 0536 GPMW :)

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...rpi-1m_tn2.jpg
10-18-2005, 11:19 PM
IvanAndreevich

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: B, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2B, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20FB1
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Manchester)
CPU Speed: 2661.00 (266.10 x 10.0)
Revision: BH9-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 61C

Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at: http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com...topic.php?t=83
10-18-2005, 11:21 PM
Absolute_0

It seems most X2s show Tcase > 60
I think what really matters is what they show for startup Vcore ;)

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: B, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2B, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20FB1
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Manchester)
CPU Speed: 2860.12 (286.01 x 10.0)
Revision: BH9-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.300v
Maximum Case Temperature = 61C

Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at: http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com...topic.php?t=83
10-19-2005, 12:48 PM
destr0yer

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 3, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 23, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20F32
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 2700.83 (270.08 x 10.0)
Revision: JH9-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 65C

Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at: http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com...topic.php?t=83

Toledo core? :slobber:
10-19-2005, 03:44 PM
Punkas

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 3, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 23, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20F32
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 2800.78 (280.08 x 10.0)
Revision: JH9-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 67C
10-19-2005, 05:43 PM
Xerxes

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: F, Stepping: 0
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2F, Stepping: 0
CPUID String: 20FF0
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (Venice)
CPU Speed: 2700.76 (270.08 x 10.0)
Revision: DH8-E3
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 57C
10-19-2005, 05:45 PM
periquitos

OPTERON 148 CABYE 0528

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 7, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 27, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20F71
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Opteron 148 (San Diego)
CPU Speed: 2695.40 (245.04 x 11.0)
Revision: SH8-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 65C
10-19-2005, 06:26 PM
AndrewK

What stepping are those chips?

The toledos I mean.

-Andrew
10-19-2005, 07:24 PM
khurios2000

0529 SPMW X2 3800+

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 3, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 23, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20F32
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 2500.79 (250.08 x 10.0)
Revision: JH9-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 67C

Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
10-19-2005, 07:39 PM
cooter

Here is my 4800+

http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/5...ase15ul.th.jpg
10-20-2005, 12:46 AM
AndrewK

Heh, looks like i'm equal first =)

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 3, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 23, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20F32
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 2458.09 (245.81 x 10.0)
Revision: JH9-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 71C

Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at: http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com...topic.php?t=83

This chip goes from 2.0ghz to 2.6ghz on stock voltage, stock heatsink. I think its pretty safe to say there is a correlation between MCT and overclockability =)

-Andrew
10-20-2005, 12:51 AM
Punkas

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 5, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 25, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20F51
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Opteron 252 (Troy)
CPU Speed: 2612.08 (200.93 x 13.0)
Revision: SH8-E4
Platform: Socket 940
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 61C

CPU Information (CPU #2):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 5, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 25, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20F51
Processor APIC: 1
Processor: AMD Opteron 252 (Troy)
CPU Speed: 2612.09 (200.93 x 13.0)
Revision: SH8-E4
Platform: Socket 940
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 63C

My dual opteron rig @ work :)
10-20-2005, 08:24 AM
T_M

CABYE - 0536GPMW

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 7, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 27, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20F71
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Opteron 144 (San Diego)
CPU Speed: 2520.67 (280.07 x 9.0)
Revision: SH8-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 57C
10-20-2005, 08:29 AM
destr0yer

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndrewK

Heh, looks like i'm equal first =)

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 3, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 23, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20F32
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 2458.09 (245.81 x 10.0)
Revision: JH9-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 71C

Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at: http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com...topic.php?t=83

This chip goes from 2.0ghz to 2.6ghz on stock voltage, stock heatsink. I think its pretty safe to say there is a correlation between MCT and overclockability =)

-Andrew

Good chip :) My x2 is equals, since cooled by xp 90c

Hello Punkas, This opterons is waiting for clocking :D
10-20-2005, 06:41 PM
dutchman.pt

Quote:

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: F, Stepping: 0
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 1F, Stepping: 0
CPUID String: 10FF0
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (Winchester)
CPU Speed: 2500.73 (250.07 x 10.0)
Revision: DH8-D0
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 65C

It doesn't OC one more single mhz past 2550mhz...:S
10-20-2005, 07:00 PM
The Coolest

Quote:

Originally Posted by dutchman.pt

It doesn't OC one more single mhz past 2550mhz...:S

You have a winchester, if you read the first post of this thread more carefully, you'll see that all CPUs before Rev E have constant value.
10-27-2005, 02:04 PM
Fosco

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 3, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 23, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20F32
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 2630.77 (239.16 x 11.0)
Revision: JH9-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 57C

Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at: http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com...topic.php?t=83
10-27-2005, 04:08 PM
menlatin

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 3, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 23, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20F32
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 2720.54 (272.05 x 10.0)
Revision: JH9-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 69C

Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at: http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com...topic.php?t=83
10-29-2005, 05:06 AM
DDaniel

http://www.aquapc.com/imagens/Produtos/maxtemp.jpg

the best until now ? for sh8-e4
10-29-2005, 07:09 AM
Acrazar

3000+ Venice DH8-E3 57C
11-02-2005, 01:48 PM
don_vercetti

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 3, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 23, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20F32
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 2100.22 (210.02 x 10.0)
Revision: JH9-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 63C

Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at: http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com...topic.php?t=83

not as good as my old x2 3800...but that one didn't clock so well, upon reaching 2600mhz the required volts rocketted!
11-05-2005, 12:32 AM
stevke

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: F, Stepping: 0
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2F, Stepping: 0
CPUID String: 20FF0
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (Venice)
CPU Speed: 2600.33 (260.03 x 10.0)
Revision: DH8-E3
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 57C
11-06-2005, 02:10 PM
eclipse_me

heres mine...

I'm not to convinced by this software....

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 3, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 23, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20F32
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 2500.00 (250.00 x 10.0)
Revision: JH9-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.300v
Maximum Case Temperature = 61C

Now people with the same cpu and the same steppings are getting different temps and different vcore's

Its not consistent..unless i am missing some thing :eek:

Dest0yer gets this:

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 3, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 23, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20F32
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 2700.83 (270.08 x 10.0)
Revision: JH9-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 65C

why the different v core and max case temp what in essence is the same cpu?
11-07-2005, 10:43 AM
TEDY

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: F, Stepping: 0
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2F, Stepping: 0
CPUID String: 20FF0
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ (Venice)
CPU Speed: 2160.17 (240.02 x 9.0)
Revision: DH8-E3
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 59C
11-07-2005, 12:49 PM
Ref

Quote:

Originally Posted by eclipse_me

Now people with the same cpu and the same steppings are getting different temps and different vcore's

Its not consistent..unless i am missing some thing :eek:
why the different v core and max case temp what in essence is the same cpu?

why does every CPU OC differently? it is the same and same steppings...

MAN EVERY CHIP IS DIFFERENT :fact:
11-07-2005, 10:52 PM
alpha0ne

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 7, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 27, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20F71
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Opteron 146 (San Diego)
CPU Speed: 2950.28 (295.03 x 10.0)
Revision: SH8-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 59C

:D , Very happy with this cabbage, a lot more to go yet :fact:
11-13-2005, 06:52 PM
SrJabardo

Quote:

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: F, Stepping: 0
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2F, Stepping: 0
CPUID String: 20FF0
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ (Venice)
CPU Speed: 2790.00 (310.00 x 9.0)
Revision: DH8-E3
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 57C

Here's my CPU.

It can do 2.9ghz with only 1.58vcore ;)

Jabardo OUT
HaZtA
11-13-2005, 07:33 PM
soundx98

Opteron 146 CABYE 0540 FPBW

http://premium1.uploadit.org/soundx98//146MaxTCase.JPG
11-17-2005, 07:38 AM
The Coolest

I updated the program and the description of the program, I also explain the purpose of MaxTCase value.
Can someone please change the title of the thread to "Find out the Max Case Temperature and Max Power draw of your CPU", please?
So redownload it (should be v1.10) and check it out, enjoy

This is a quote of the first post

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Coolest

This is a new type of program, which checks AMD64 CPUs for their maximum rated case temp or TCaseMax and reports the TDP which corresponds to the processor in question.
On most AMD processors TCaseMax and TDP values are constant, and depend on CPU type and model, but on the E Revision chips, both this values and the default voltage are variable.
These are the chips that have variable values:
Athlon64 (Venice, San Diego)
Athlon64 FX (San Diego)
Athlon64 X2 (Manchester, Toledo)
All Rev E Opterons and Dual Core Opterons
What this all means is this: On 90nm manufacturing process, the power leakage of transistors on individual processors differs greatly, this is why AMD implemented TCaseMax. Each CPU has a different TDP rating, here's how it works:
A program reads the TCaseMax value off the CPU, then depending on the processor (CPU type like A64, Opteron;CPU Rating like 3500+, 146) it finds the processor's Thermal Profile (If you download the "AMD Opteron™ Processor Power and Thermal Data Sheet" and look at pages 10-11 you'll see the different thermal profiles). When the thermal profile is determined, the program finds the TDP rating that corresponds to the CPU's TCaseMax value.
So in a few words, the higher the TCaseMax, the higher the TDP of a processor will be (the transistor leakage is higher), so the processor will run hotter. Several people have reported that the Opterons rated at 71C TCaseMax were pretty hot. On the other side these processors will be able to reach higher clock speeds.
That is why we see that on average processors with higher TCaseMax can usually reach higher CPU speeds when overclocked.
Every CPU type (A64, FX, X2, Opteron, DC Opteron) has a different thermal profile, that is why you see that on an FX a TCaseMax rating can be "only" 57C and it'll overclock way better than an A64 with a 57C TCaseMax rating. That is because at 57C TCaseMax, an FX has a TDP of 77W while the A64 has a TDP of 44W.
11-17-2005, 08:00 AM
5days

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 7, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 27, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20F71
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Opteron 146 (San Diego)
CPU Speed: 2920.71 (292.07 x 10.0)
Revision: SH8-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 65C

Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at: http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com...topic.php?t=83

:D

EDIT: Equal 3RD. :banana:
11-17-2005, 08:11 AM
s7e9h3n

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Coolest

I updated the program and the description of the program, I also explain the purpose of MaxTCase value.
Can someone please change the title of the thread to "Find out the Max Case Temperature and Max Power draw of your CPU", please?
So redownload it (should be v1.10) and check it out, enjoy

This is a quote of the first post

Hey there,
I know I had promised you a dump of this cpu, but I didn't get a chance to do that before I uninstalled it. I did, however, reload this pic @ imageshack since the first one was taken down due to excessive bandwidth usage :rolleyes: Hopefully, this will be enough info to get you by and if you'll be needing anything else, LMK. I'd like to think that I helped define a few cpu's in your prog :p: Here's the ADV 4400DAA6CD - Get it while you can lol....
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/199...default8nb.jpg
11-17-2005, 08:53 AM
The Coolest

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5days

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 7, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 27, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20F71
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Opteron 146 (San Diego)
CPU Speed: 2920.71 (292.07 x 10.0)
Revision: SH8-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 65C

Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at: http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com...topic.php?t=83

:D

EDIT: Equal 3RD. :banana:

You didn't use the latest 1.10v. Please redownload it, it should have a TDP field and when you click Copy to Clipboard it should also add a "TDP:" after MaxTCase
11-17-2005, 08:55 AM
The Coolest

Quote:

Originally Posted by s7e9h3n

Hey there,
I know I had promised you a dump of this cpu, but I didn't get a chance to do that before I uninstalled it. I did, however, reload this pic @ imageshack since the first one was taken down due to excessive bandwidth usage :rolleyes: Hopefully, this will be enough info to get you by and if you'll be needing anything else, LMK. I'd like to think that I helped define a few cpu's in your prog :p: Here's the ADV 4400DAA6CD - Get it while you can lol....

Thanks.
There is no way that I could see that would allow me to ID an ADA or ADV chip :(.
11-17-2005, 09:51 AM
ozzimark

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 7, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 27, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20F71
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Opteron 146 (San Diego)
CPU Speed: 2850.58 (285.06 x 10.0)
Revision: SH8-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 63C
TDP: 61.8 Watts
11-17-2005, 10:02 AM
5days

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Coolest

You didn't use the latest 1.10v. Please redownload it, it should have a TDP field and when you click Copy to Clipboard it should also add a "TDP:" after MaxTCase

Done chief. :)

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 7, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 27, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20F71
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Opteron 146 (San Diego)
CPU Speed: 2920.71 (292.07 x 10.0)
Revision: SH8-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 65C
TDP: 67.0 Watts
Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at: http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com...topic.php?t=83
11-17-2005, 10:25 AM
don_vercetti

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 7, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 27, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20F71
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Opteron 144 (San Diego)
CPU Speed: 2610.07 (290.01 x 9.0)
Revision: SH8-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 55C
TDP: 38.2 Watts
Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at: http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com...topic.php?t=83

Opteron 144, currently doing 2610mhz with 1.5v. Certainly not a great one, but is responding well to burn in (was 1.55v to be stable prime)
11-17-2005, 10:29 AM
RFC Rudel

I get a god one

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 3, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 23, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20F32
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 2800.84 (280.08 x 10.0)
Revision: JH9-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 69C
TDP: 84.4 Watts
11-17-2005, 10:52 AM
s7e9h3n

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Coolest

Thanks.
There is no way that I could see that would allow me to ID an ADA or ADV chip :(.

The Vcore and Max Power ranges (at least as identified on Everest) ;)
11-17-2005, 10:53 AM
Pyr0

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 3, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 23, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20F32
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 2807.85 (280.78 x 10.0)
Revision: JH9-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.300v
Maximum Case Temperature = 55C
TDP: 40.6 / 65.0 Watts
11-17-2005, 12:57 PM
The Coolest

Quote:

Originally Posted by s7e9h3n

The Vcore and Max Power ranges (at least as identified on Everest) ;)

Yes, the ADA has 89w as max, the ADV is 110W max. But there is no way to tell which is which. There is nothing the program could read in the processor that would diffrintiate them.
Just look at the above post by Pyr0. You see, there are two possible profiles, and AMD64 MaxTCase shows both, but there's no way to tell which is which. I'm guessing that chip is an ADV, as that is one heck of a OC for a 40W chip, so I'm going with the 65W version. I could be wrong tho.

Pyr0 is that CPU you have an ADV4400 or ADA4400?
11-17-2005, 12:59 PM
s7e9h3n

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Coolest

Yes, the ADA has 89w as max, the ADV is 110W max. But there is no way to tell which is which. There is nothing the program could read in the processor that would diffrintiate them.
Just look at the above post by Pyr0. You see, there are two possible profiles, and AMD64 MaxTCase shows both, but there's no way to tell which is which. I'm guessing that chip is an ADV, as that is one heck of a OC for a 40W chip, so I'm going with the 65W version. I could be wrong tho.

Pyr0 is that CPU you have an ADV4400 or ADA4400?

It will be an ADA....AFAIK, the ADV's are still a way's away from release...... ;)
11-17-2005, 01:13 PM
Pyr0

i've had it since the beginning of july, so i'm guessing s7e9h3n's right, it must be an ADA4400 :shrug:
11-17-2005, 01:23 PM
The Coolest

Sorry ADV = 89W, ADA = 110W
So it is the 65W option after all :)
11-17-2005, 01:28 PM
s7e9h3n

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Coolest

Sorry ADV = 89W, ADA = 110W
So it is the 65W option after all :)

:confused:
11-17-2005, 01:36 PM
Pyr0

i'm :confused: too :D
11-17-2005, 01:39 PM
krampak

Here it goes mine:

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 7, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 27, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20F71
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Opteron 148 (San Diego)
CPU Speed: 2800.74 (280.07 x 10.0)
Revision: SH8-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 59C
11-17-2005, 01:46 PM
The Coolest

The only difference between the ADA4400 and ADV4400 is their thermal profile.
the ADA can be upto 110W, the ADV can be upto 89W (in the previous post I mixed them up).
11-17-2005, 01:48 PM
The Coolest

Quote:

Originally Posted by krampak

Here it goes mine:

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 7, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 27, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20F71
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Opteron 148 (San Diego)
CPU Speed: 2800.74 (280.07 x 10.0)
Revision: SH8-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 59C

Again using the old version, please download the new one
HERE
11-17-2005, 02:06 PM
Kameleon

146 CABYE 0540 FPMW

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 7, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 27, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20F71
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Opteron 146 (San Diego)
CPU Speed: 2700.14 (270.01 x 10.0)
Revision: SH8-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 61C
TDP: 55.9 Watts
Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at: http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com...topic.php?t=83

Hmm, it doesn't appear to read actual core speed, only what the CPU is set to in the BIOS. Just got that dump and I'm running at 290x10 (set in clockgen), but it's reading what I have set in the BIOS instead...

Oh, and my 144 CAB2E 0540 FPMW had a MaxTCase of 57°C, but I didn't get a dump.
11-17-2005, 02:08 PM
Xenom0rph

My Venice 3000+:

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: F, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2F, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20FF2
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ (Venice)
CPU Speed: 2610.07 (290.01 x 9.0)
Revision: DH8-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 53C

Will post with my Opteron 146 as soon as i have it.
11-17-2005, 02:16 PM
stone_cold_Jimi

Hmm, my Venice 3000+ is an E6 stepping with max temp of 53C and my Opteron 144 (CABNE 0540) has the same. Neither of them are fantastic overclockers. I'll export better detail tomorrow.
11-17-2005, 02:24 PM
003

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 3, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 23, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20F32
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: Dual Core AMD Opteron 165 (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 2502.85 (278.09 x 9.0)
Revision: JH9-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 49C
TDP: 35.0 Watts

49C?? My opty has hit 57C during S&M and is not damaged in any way, I think this is incorrect.
11-17-2005, 02:33 PM
The Coolest

Well, if you read the first post of this thread, you'll see that MaxTCase is used to determine what TDP a processor has, not an actual maximum temperature the CPU can run at reliably.
11-17-2005, 06:03 PM
[XC] 4X4N

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 7, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 27, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20F71
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Opteron 148 (San Diego)
CPU Speed: 2905.50 (264.14 x 11.0)
Revision: SH8-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 65C
TDP: 67.6 Watts
Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at: http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com...topic.php?t=83
11-17-2005, 06:28 PM
Xerxes

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: F, Stepping: 0
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2F, Stepping: 0
CPUID String: 20FF0
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (Venice)
CPU Speed: 2700.76 (270.08 x 10.0)
Revision: DH8-E3
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 57C
TDP: 44.1 Watts
Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at: http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com...topic.php?t=83
11-17-2005, 08:17 PM
ShaidarHaran

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 3, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 23, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20F32
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: Dual Core AMD Opteron 175 (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 2210.26 (200.93 x 11.0)
Revision: JH9-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 49C
TDP: 35.0 Watts
Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at: http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com...topic.php?t=83

Can that be right? 35W TDP and max TCase of 49 degrees C? Does this mean my Opteron 175 will o/c like crap? :(
11-17-2005, 08:22 PM
alpha0ne

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 3, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 23, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20F32
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 2750.76 (275.08 x 10.0)
Revision: JH9-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 63C
TDP: 65.6 Watts

:D :D :woot:
11-18-2005, 12:23 AM
The Coolest

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShaidarHaran

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 3, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 23, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20F32
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: Dual Core AMD Opteron 175 (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 2210.26 (200.93 x 11.0)
Revision: JH9-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 49C
TDP: 35.0 Watts
Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at: http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com...topic.php?t=83

Can that be right? 35W TDP and max TCase of 49 degrees C? Does this mean my Opteron 175 will o/c like crap? :(

Unfortunatly, that is a possibility. This is what we're trying to do in this thread, see if this the TDP and MaxTCase really affect OCability of a chip.
11-18-2005, 08:38 AM
s7e9h3n

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Coolest

The only difference between the ADA4400 and ADV4400 is their thermal profile.
the ADA can be upto 110W, the ADV can be upto 89W (in the previous post I mixed them up).

I'm curious - how did you arrive @ that conclusion?
11-18-2005, 08:46 AM
The Coolest

The docs on what thermal profiles the A64s have are still under NDA. But the ADV4400+ has an improved thermal specification.
11-18-2005, 08:54 AM
gpcola

AMD64 MaxTCase - v1.11
----------------------

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 3, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 23, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20F32
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 2500.00 (250.00 x 10.0)
Revision: JH9-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 65C
TDP: 71.9 Watts

Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at: http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com...topic.php?t=83
11-18-2005, 08:56 AM
s7e9h3n

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Coolest

The docs on what thermal profiles the A64s have are still under NDA. But the ADV4400+ has an improved thermal specification.

Hehehe...I already knew that, but my question is - how did you? :p: Access to those docs??? ;)
11-18-2005, 09:23 AM
alpha0ne

Quote:

Originally Posted by gpcola

AMD64 MaxTCase - v1.11
----------------------

TDP: 71.9 Watts

Hmm never seen that one ?
11-18-2005, 09:49 AM
stone_cold_Jimi

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 7, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 27, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20F71
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Opteron 144 (San Diego)
CPU Speed: 2340.04 (260.00 x 9.0)
Revision: SH8-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 53C
TDP: 32.4 Watts

It's hard work overclocking this chip. Seems to have an issue with my Ballistix 2x 1Gb as well; whereas the Venice kept going at 1:1 past 250 HTT, this doesn't.

Meh - just failed SPi32M after 4 iterations at 260*9. It's not to be... oh well, my dear old mum is getting an Opty for xmas... Sry, should add that it was at 30C when it crashed.
11-18-2005, 10:11 AM
TheMeatFrog

146 CABNE 0530APMW

AMD64 MaxTCase - v1.11
----------------------

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 7, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 27, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20F71
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Opteron 146 (San Diego)
CPU Speed: 3000.76 (300.08 x 10.0)
Revision: SH8-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 65C
TDP: 67.0 Watts

Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at: http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com...topic.php?t=83
11-18-2005, 02:18 PM
The Coolest

Quote:

Originally Posted by alpha0ne

Hmm never seen that one ?

Read the "What's new" part in the first post, I just added that. In version 1.10 I added some code to calculate the TDP of a chip (at stock speed/voltage ofcourse).

BTW, just so you guys know, for a 144 or 146 Opteron TCaseMax of 65C and TDP of 67W is the highest it can get. So you probably got the chips with the most potential of a high overclock.
11-18-2005, 02:44 PM
infiniti029

WTF! My Opteron 165 maxtcase is 49C???

AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.12
----------------------

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 3, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 23, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20F32
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: Dual Core AMD Opteron 165 (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 2402.97 (267.00 x 9.0)
Revision: JH9-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 49C
TDP: 35.0 Watts

Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at: http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com...topic.php?t=83
11-18-2005, 03:29 PM
The Coolest

Quote:

Originally Posted by infiniti029

WTF! My Opteron 165 maxtcase is 49C???

AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.12
----------------------
.
.
.
Processor: Dual Core AMD Opteron 165 (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 2402.97 (267.00 x 9.0)
.
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 49C
TDP: 35.0 Watts

Yes, there have been several such CPUs showing up recently... How does it OC?
11-18-2005, 03:36 PM
Herbal

AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.12
----------------------

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 3, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 23, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20F32
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: Dual Core AMD Opteron 170 (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 2384.97 (265.00 x 9.0)
Revision: JH9-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 49C
TDP: 35.0 Watts

---------------------------------

So far this CPU requires quite a bit of power...1.45v to get to 2700MHz and that's not quite stable yet. :(
11-18-2005, 03:47 PM
fareastgq

Well, I guess I'll be the one to put the kink in everyone's theory of higher max t case = better clocks. I read this whole thread, I still don't see any correlation. The data doesn't tell u anything except that all the cpu's are different. Also, everyone needs to be reminded of the famous stepping in my sig, which I might add, has the lowest maxtcase I've ever seen, but clocks like a mofo (just look at everyone's results who have the exact same stepping). Verdict for me, it still doesn't mean squat. The only real way of showing a difference I think is if someone compiled all the data, grouping them into chips that have exactly the same code/week/stepping/kind. THEN, maybe then, we can arrive to some type of conclusion as to how the max t case affects the chips by looking at the oc differential vs (idle/load) temp vs max t casefor those specific chips. Anyone want to do this? Our picture will be much much more clear and we'll be 1 step closer to unlocking the data. That's the only way we'll see if this hype holds true imo. And even then, it only takes 1 deviation from the norm to prove the hypothesis wrong, I'm sure u all know the scientific method. It certianly is fun to hypothesize though. What if all max t case really means is that the lower max t case chips run cooler at stock? Think about that...
11-18-2005, 04:30 PM
x714n

AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.12
----------------------

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 7, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 27, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20F71
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Opteron 144 (San Diego)
CPU Speed: 2700.69 (300.08 x 9.0)
Revision: SH8-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 57C
TDP: 44.1 Watts

Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at: http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com...topic.php?t=83
11-18-2005, 05:05 PM
The Coolest

Adding more info like how it OCs and on what volts would be great!!
11-18-2005, 05:13 PM
Runner

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 7, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 27, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20F71
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3700+ (San Diego)
CPU Speed: 2754.34 (306.04 x 9.0)
Revision: SH8-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 57C
TDP: 44.1 Watts

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 7, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 27, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20F71
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Opteron 146 (San Diego)
CPU Speed: 2803.64 (280.36 x 10.0)
Revision: SH8-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 57C
TDP: 44.1 Watts

Identical for my CABGE 3700+ 0522XPBW and my CABYE 146 0536GPMW. They're within 50mhz of each other at the exact same voltages...The opteron runs WAY hotter though, even with its IHS off. Both running 1.67v.
11-18-2005, 06:11 PM
ArcTan

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 7, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 27, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20F71
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Opteron 146 (San Diego)
CPU Speed: 2951.66 (295.17 x 10.0)
Revision: SH8-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 67C
11-19-2005, 12:04 AM
Anakin_Skywalke

AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.12
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CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 3, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 23, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20F32
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 2800.85 (280.08 x 10.0)
Revision: JH9-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 55C
TDP: 40.6 / 65.0 Watts
11-19-2005, 12:28 AM
nop

AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.12
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CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 3, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 23, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20F32
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: Dual Core AMD Opteron 165 (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 2880.21 (320.02 x 9.0)
Revision: JH9-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore:1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 49C
TDP: 35.0 Watts
11-19-2005, 02:33 AM
don_vercetti

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: B, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2B, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20FB1
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Manchester)
CPU Speed: 2009.26 (200.93 x 10.0)
Revision: BH9-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 61C
TDP: 59.4 Watts
Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at: http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com...topic.php?t=83

A new X2 3800+, LDBHE 0537 SPMW

Can i just ask, is anything going to be done with all this data? We really need some form of database, which has MaxCaseTemp, TDP, Top Speed and Voltage (last two done by user) so we can figure out what correlation there is in all this stuff.
11-19-2005, 03:10 AM
The Coolest

Quote:

Originally Posted by don_vercetti

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Can i just ask, is anything going to be done with all this data? We really need some form of database, which has MaxCaseTemp, TDP, Top Speed and Voltage (last two done by user) so we can figure out what correlation there is in all this stuff.

Yeah I know. There's a guy who promised me he'd build a page for that, but counting on him making it is a stupid thing for me to do as he promised me like over 3 months ago. This will require knowlage of PHP and MySQL which I don't have. So if anyone around here wants to take on the challenge (I have everything needed to be done written down in a txt file ready to send), please contact me via PM and we'll talk.

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