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06-22-2005, 01:53 AM
Sampsa

Quote:

Originally Posted by perkam

OPP Just broke 47K :eek:

Looking forward to your response :D

Perkam

Well he is the master of 3DMark2001SE:

http://www.io-media.fi/temp/oppainter.jpg

My main focus is 3DMark05 and 3DMark03.

Hopefully NVIDIA gets the cold bug fixed and we can do some serious LN2 testing with Kamu and OPP & Shamino with their cascades. "Extreme overclocking" the cards with air or watercooling is a bit silly imho :)
06-22-2005, 02:05 AM
perkam

Quote:

http://www.io-media.fi/temp/oppainter.jpg

Nice Pic...Now we now what you're doing while the cold bug gets fixed :lol: LMAO

Perkam
06-22-2005, 02:36 AM
Always

How can you fix a cold bug in two or three days?
06-22-2005, 03:20 AM
varzmaster

Well... he can't... but NVIDIA sure will. :D
06-22-2005, 03:24 AM
Always

Hope its not a fix speccialy made for them but a fix for us all, would suck to pay 600 bucks for a card and that it was a no go on cascade.
06-22-2005, 04:17 AM
LowRun

Quote:

Originally Posted by Always

How can you fix a cold bug in two or three days?

New bios?
06-22-2005, 04:18 AM
HaLDoL

The 6800u had this bug too initially, only asus cards worked ok. I guess it's a bios thing.
06-22-2005, 05:05 AM
gundamit

6am PST?
06-22-2005, 05:15 AM
Sampsa

Quote:

Originally Posted by gundamit

6am PST?

Yes, the secret was already revealed several pages ago :)
06-22-2005, 05:18 AM
gundamit

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sampsa

Sorry, 22nd of June 6 AM (Pacific time) :(

Edit: Correct time

..... :confused:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sampsa

Yes, the secret was already revealed several pages ago :)

Ahhh. :p:
06-22-2005, 06:12 AM
don_vercetti

so does this thing physically have 24 pipes or 32, with some disabled? I know it's unlikely, but it'd be worth checking out.

Since top end 7800u is mooted to have 32 pipes, it's quite likely these do as well, with some disabled, right? Anyway you can check? If/When you get rivatuner running, you could probably check there, using the nvstrap thing, same way of checking on a 6800.
06-22-2005, 06:17 AM
HARDCORECLOCKER

:D Think waitin' for ATI X900XT PE is better - 32 pipelines & 512 MB !

:toast:
06-22-2005, 06:20 AM
don_vercetti

or so we think...

i won't get one, i haven't even got a pci-e system yet, im holding out for 65nm then i'll upgrade (unless a windfall occurs this summer). But i'd still like to know the situation on unlockable pipelines.
06-22-2005, 07:18 AM
Sampsa

I'll try with Rivatuner later today.

First post now edited.
06-22-2005, 07:29 AM
harleybro

How do you plan to have the cold bug fixed? Would a vmod pumping more voltage in help it? BTW very nice scores! :toast:
06-22-2005, 07:43 AM
Sampsa

Quote:

Originally Posted by harleybro

How do you plan to have the cold bug fixed?

NVIDIA is working on it.
06-22-2005, 08:04 AM
Sampsa

Quote:

Originally Posted by Troman

Serious question now..
what can we(i) expect from you the following days?
benching in a team?
record on 05?
:stick: :woot:

It'll be a public holiday here in Finland from Friday to Sunday so my plan is:

:toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast:
:toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast:
:toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast:
:toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast:

I haven't heard anything new about coldbug yet but when hear something new, I'll post it here.
06-22-2005, 09:25 AM
NiCKE^

It's middlesummer Sampsa, right? :D Got it in Sweden also.
06-22-2005, 05:47 PM
Kinc

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sampsa

It'll be a public holiday here in Finland from Friday to Sunday so my plan is:

:toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast:
:toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast:
:toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast:
:toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast:

I haven't heard anything new about coldbug yet but when hear something new, I'll post it here.

Well said! :toast: (Skål!)
06-22-2005, 10:05 PM
Sampsa

We have a first attempt to fix the coldbug.. I'll tryto test it later tonight. Also OPPAINTER and Shamino has it so lets see if it works out.
06-22-2005, 10:18 PM
JuanFlaiter

Did you fix the Rivatuner problem? Im still working on it :mad:
06-22-2005, 10:51 PM
zakelwe

Quote:

Originally Posted by don_vercetti

so does this thing physically have 24 pipes or 32, with some disabled? I know it's unlikely, but it'd be worth checking out.

Since top end 7800u is mooted to have 32 pipes, it's quite likely these do as well, with some disabled, right? Anyway you can check? If/When you get rivatuner running, you could probably check there, using the nvstrap thing, same way of checking on a 6800.

There's only 16 output pipes like 6800U and so I doubt there are 32 internal pixel processing pipelines rather than the current 24, there is just not enough transistors IMO.

Regrds

Andy
06-22-2005, 11:01 PM
HaLDoL

There are 24 pipelines but only 16 ROPS. 32 pipes is not possible with 110nm tech.
32 pipes will have to be 90nm, the RSX is known to have 24 pipes on 90nm and is clocked at 550 Mhz. So the ultra will be a 24 pipes 500+Mhz card on 110nm and later on 90nm.
06-23-2005, 03:27 AM
NiCKE^

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sampsa

We have a first attempt to fix the coldbug.. I'll tryto test it later tonight. Also OPPAINTER and Shamino has it so lets see if it works out.

I hope it's fixed so we can see some LN2 action.
06-23-2005, 12:11 PM
Sampsa

Card flashed succesfully!

Old BIOS: 05.70.02.11.01
New BIOS: 05.70.02.11.28

The temperature reading is still active in drivers and it definitely didn't change anything with coolbits (I still get the internal test failure).

In my first LN2 tests I faced serious performance drop when overclocking cards beyond 525/1380 with Rivatuner and Coolbits didn't allow more than 525/1380 because of internal test failure.

I'll test the cards under LN2 in Sunday and let you know how it turns out.
06-23-2005, 12:30 PM
NiCKE^

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sampsa

Card flashed succesfully!

Old BIOS: 05.70.02.11.01
New BIOS: 05.70.02.11.28

The temperature reading is still active in drivers and it definitely didn't change anything with coolbits (I still get the internal test failure).

In my first LN2 tests I faced serious performance drop when overclocking cards beyond 525/1380 with Rivatuner and Coolbits didn't allow more than 525/1380 because of internal test failure.

I'll test the cards under LN2 in Sunday and let you know how it turns out.

Lets pray that it is gone!
06-23-2005, 03:08 PM
LowRun

Quote:

Originally Posted by Troman

my friend use powerstrip ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sampsa

With Powerstrip I faced even worse performance drop at even less clock speeds

:slap:
06-23-2005, 03:14 PM
metro.cl

sorry for the off topic but i think this would happen

nvidia will keep the 7800gtx and wont launch an ultra until they change their proces to 90mn then it will have 32 pipes. Now this is why i believe this, nvidia has 2 advantages price and availability (cards and mobo for sli) so they'll stay with the 7800gtx because ati will launch the r520 but mostly a papaer launch then the lack availability would make nvidia a 1st choice for most of the mortals, so nvidia can pretty much stay this way and not force a 7800ultra with higher clock instead they'll launch a new bios that would improove clocks for the 7800gtx so they r520 wont be that better

what do you think?
06-23-2005, 03:16 PM
s7e9h3n

Quote:

Originally Posted by metro_oc.cl

.... because ati will launch the r520 but mostly a papaer launch...

what do you think?

Why would you say this?
06-23-2005, 06:02 PM
[XC] leviathan18

s7e9h3n last time ati did a paper launch and crossfire is MIA
06-23-2005, 06:04 PM
s7e9h3n

Quote:

Originally Posted by leviathan18

s7e9h3n last time ati did a paper launch and crossfire is MIA

Thanks for clearing that up leviathan :toast: ...I guess I'm outta the loop when it comes to stuff like that :rolleyes:
06-23-2005, 06:16 PM
k|ngp|n

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sampsa

We have a first attempt to fix the coldbug.. I'll tryto test it later tonight. Also OPPAINTER and Shamino has it so lets see if it works out.

Hope this fixes it :( These cards would freeking fly at -140c
06-23-2005, 07:08 PM
metro.cl

Quote:

Originally Posted by s7e9h3n

Why would you say this?

crossfire is still unavailable for most people, i still dont know if anyone can buy one
06-23-2005, 07:24 PM
perkam

Quote:

Originally Posted by metro_oc.cl

crossfire is still unavailable for most people, i still dont know if anyone can buy one

No one can buy one yet, but there are MANY who want to ;)

Perkam
06-23-2005, 11:21 PM
Sampsa

Quote:

Originally Posted by metro_oc.cl

crossfire is still unavailable for most people, i still dont know if anyone can buy one

Not even the press have received the review samples... so Crossfire won't show up in stores just in "few days".
06-24-2005, 01:45 AM
HaLDoL

Quote:

Originally Posted by perkam

No one can buy one yet, but there are MANY who want to ;)

Perkam

Why would you want something that needs a new mobo which is slower than the current nforce4 motherboards (see reviews of xpress motherboard) and not as good oc'able; and a new card which costs more than a normal card.

Combining the cost of the motherboard plus the mastercard gives you the price of a GTX, a chip that supports HDR, SM3 and new AA options which give better IQ.

Tell me why people would want to buy it?
06-24-2005, 11:13 AM
Hans.Gruber

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaLDoL

Why would you want something that needs a new mobo which is slower than the current nforce4 motherboards (see reviews of xpress motherboard) and not as good oc'able; and a new card which costs more than a normal card.

Combining the cost of the motherboard plus the mastercard gives you the price of a GTX, a chip that supports HDR, SM3 and new AA options which give better IQ.

Tell me why people would want to buy it?

It's like buying a SLI capable motherboard.

Want to use SLI ?
Get Nvidia SLI MB and GFX card that supports SLI (you need 2)

Want to use crossfire ?
Get ATI crossfire MB and GFX card that supports crossfire (1 crossfire card needed).

Slower ?
i don't know, maybe immature drivers ?
06-24-2005, 11:20 AM
CD 1986

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sampsa

Card flashed succesfully!

Old BIOS: 05.70.02.11.01
New BIOS: 05.70.02.11.28

The temperature reading is still active in drivers and it definitely didn't change anything with coolbits (I still get the internal test failure).

In my first LN2 tests I faced serious performance drop when overclocking cards beyond 525/1380 with Rivatuner and Coolbits didn't allow more than 525/1380 because of internal test failure.

I'll test the cards under LN2 in Sunday and let you know how it turns out.

I use systool (by w1zzard) to OC gfx cards...no internal test using that program...dunno if it supports SLI though. :)
07-10-2005, 11:33 PM
babyelf

sampsa.. found a solution to it

try nvflash -4 -5 -6 bios.rom

-4 is a hidden force flash for nvflash and it'll restore everything.. u know before when u've activated riva tuner's "disableinternalclock" thingy.. it actually is not cleared if u don't flash it with -4.. so yea.. give it a go..

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