The AMD rig hasn't done ONE cd in the past hour!!! they must have stopped it to allow Intel to catch up...and gave priority to the cd bench as farcry is so low...
Dragon
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The AMD rig hasn't done ONE cd in the past hour!!! they must have stopped it to allow Intel to catch up...and gave priority to the cd bench as farcry is so low...
Dragon
Wow the intels below 50 Deg C, have to put a coat on it soon, cant have it catch a chill now can we :D
They must have stopped farycry on one of the sytems or something as the watts are WAY low for both to be at load...under 500...
Dragon
Quote:
Originally Posted by Atomicpineapple
That is because it ISN"T at load look at the total watteg deing drawn UNDER 500...
Dragon
Yeh I realise, poor baby CPU get tired again? AWWWWWWWWWW. Honestly, who, having seen the test, is going to trust anything that site says again, pathetic, way to go THG, youve destroyed your image and any respect anyone may have had for you.
The iNTEL isn't running FarCry anymore ...
EDiT: OK, the iNTEL isn't running at all anymore: make that #7 :p:
Farcry isnt on the intel any more...but is still on the AMD what is up witht hat trying to make Intel win the creation tests?
Dragon
Haha! I was just watching the Intel rig and it went offline!? This is the best Net soap opera!!
Probably, this would make me laugh if it didnt make me want to cry.
**EDIT** HUZZAH the beast is dead............again lol.
This seams VERY Intel biased to me trying to MAKE it win tests by stoping the AMD from them and making do harder things at he same time with difernt priority then should be allowed...and with all the remakes differnt mem tacking it out of SLI as it wasnt doing good..I mean come on this is HORRIBLE!!!
Dragon
Intel rig running @ 85C compared to AMD running @ 54C..ouch!!
EDIT: This definitely deserves front page, post it Saaya!! Hilarious $hit :ROTF:
HA HA HA HA the AMD system is drawing 271 when the Intel system is OFF so this means that the AMD system should pull ahead in EVERYTHING as Intel is down but AMD is still running speaking of that should all of the verious get averaged in for the time tha the intel rig is missing?
Dragon
intel running exactly nothing at the mo :D :D :D
Offline for Intel... hahaha... Shame !!! Shame !! :clap:
Think they are replacing the CPU again? no more heatsink or cpu on the mobo
WOW the AMD sytem draws NOTHING compaired to the Intel system at load what was it 650 somthing and the AMD is ONLY taking 267 watts...MAN that is about 400watts on the Intel systems HOLY $HIT
Dragon
LMAO!
Looks like they are doing something around the CPU area you know what would WILD if it blew the PSU!!!!
Dragon
Or if the chip got so hot that it fried...because they had to take the thermal protection off to get it to run... ;)
So they arnt countin that as a reboot?!?!?!?! the damn thing shut off!!!!
Dragon
I see 3 reboots now.Quote:
Originally Posted by FireDragon
HAHA notoriousformula I just relized if any one needs a DFI NF4 bios between us they are sure to find it as we both have them ALL lol
Dragon
Ok they must have JUST changed it...
Dragon
blew the psu i dont think any modern setup can blew that pcp&p
haha. They replaced 3 boards in 1 day and concluded that Nforce 4 SLi is not a good pair with Intel, BUT ! They placed the Asus P5WD2 Premium with 955X chipset and it just crashed 2 times !!! LMAO. Now thats funny crashing on its own intel made chipsets...
Quote:
Originally Posted by leviathan18
LOL man you see how much that thing is drawing My Enermax 550 with 36A on EVERYTHING would have a hard time running that beast in a 85deg room...But yeah i know it was more an o that would be funny...
Dragon
Man that Intel rig is JUST STUPID!!! If this is REALLY true then these chips CAN"T go in anything so what is Dell going to with these chips?
Dragon
news updates from them what do you guys think about thatQuote:
After our many misadventures with these three motherboards - starting with the Gigabyte, then going to the Epox and ending up with Asus - we arrived at the conclusion that the nForce4-SLI chipset is simply not yet ready to be used with the Intel platform. We therefore decided that we can no longer use this type of Intel-based motherboard for stress tests.
At this point the only solution left was to use a board with an Intel 955X chipset, which, although it is sold only individually, is supposed to run without problems. However, the use of an Intel component involves a clear limitation: the current Nvidia driver deactivates the SLI mode of the graphic card on all Intel boards.
Despite this, in order to continue to guarantee a fair comparison between AMD and Intel systems, we are now determined to use a complete Intel platform based on the 955X chipset. So we established new conditions: all benchmarks will be restarted and the counters simultaneously set back. The SLI mode in the AMD system will also be disabled.
The initial testing of an appropriate motherboard with this chipset had strange results: two of our very own boards, identical ones of the D955XBK type, were unable to work with the processors provided by Intel. The Asus P5WD2 Premium with 955X chipset is now being used.
And after all that, finally, the Intel platform is running again - after the replacement of a total of five motherboards within a single day!
im going to change my bet maybe 10 reboots
saaya, if ANYTHING is worthy of front page new its this !!!
The Intel rig AT IDLE is drawing just over 200 watts!!!
If you carefully read the "More info" section the guy basically says that the Epox board they testest with NFroce 4 SLI chipset burned out. here is a quote
We had a new, just-delivered Epox EP-5NVA+SLI version 1.0 - also equipped with an nForce4-SLI chipset - so a quick replacement was available. The board is suitable for dual cores, so re-equipping it later should be no problem. But again, we immediately experienced problems. After the initial start, the motherboard began to smell like an electrical fire, even though only the BIOS had been activated. After 10 minutes, the board shut down and could not be restarted.
Hahaha :fact:
5 MOBOS IN ONE DAY
LOL INtels new slogin "Only cost 1Grand perday to run or NEW AND IMPROVED DUAL CORE PENTIUM!!!" (then reads in fine print must replace 5 motherboards per day to mantian peak operation)
LOL
Dragon
I don't think they are using pcp&p with Intel system anymore.. i saw some Red, regular size psu when they were tinkering with Intel CPU/Heatsink 10 mins ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by leviathan18
That is true WONDER WHY LOL!!! how it handle the load?!?!? must be a BEFFY A$$ PSU...
Dragon
I think that is an Enermax PSU... that they have in the Intel right now...
Dragon
They are running Far Cry on Intel setup now..What is THG trying to prove here? i mean we have seen atleast 6 reboots/epox motherboard burning/Gigabyte failing/Asus not stable, Intel D running @ 90C Approx, etc etc..whats left to prove? They should simply declare AMD won Dual core round.
hmm the Intel's CPU fan is now on higher RPMs...
Quote:
Originally Posted by notoriousformula
i think they are waiting for it to all out burst into flames.
i dont want to go to the university just to see this is just so funny see how they are trying to make intel rig look better than amd
Why is the Intel fan running faster and the CPU a littel cooler did they switch HS? LOL trying to give Intel an edge?
Dragon
You are right 2000rpm to 3600rpm.. is that the same HSF? looks a bit smaller than the last one?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ref
Now Intel is faster in farcry...come on...this is JUST BS!!!!! THG YOU SUCK!!!!
Dragon
Intel is now running what 10deg cooler they changed the DAMN COOLER!!!
Dragon
According to the second update, the Pentium D killed TWO intel brand D955XBK boards. In other words:
THE INTEL PENTIUM D KILLS INTEL'S OWN MOTHERBOARDS, THE VERY BOARDS THAT ARE DESIGNED TO RUN IT!!!
man this just gets better and better by the minute... the dead mobo count is almost as high as the reboot count. it seems at almost every reboot it kills a mobo..
and to think apple is switching to intel... i think they might want to rethink this. espcially considering the first intel cpu they are gonna use is a dual core... eek.
i really dont think the benchmark matters anymore even if in the land of hopes in dreams that we dont live in intel wins the cpu is still going on a motherboard genocide.
If only hehe
Hahaha!! for a second i was like WTF?! :ROTF: :rofl: Nice1 :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hans.Gruber
Ok you guys need to view these with internet explorer since they are mht archive files.
First off we have the inital gigabyte board with already one re-boot
Next Toms switches boards to Asus NF4 and still shows 3 reboots
Can't have that!!! so he re-sets the boot counter back to 1!!!
Crashes 4 more times as shown here before finally upgrading to Asus 955x board. That's at least 7 crashes so far!!!
Meanwhile, as shown here AMD is rock solid 97 hours straight!!! (actually more like 102 but I don't have an archive of that)
Toms does'nt like Intel 7-9 crashes so he resets counter yet again to Zero for the intel system and whipes out AMD rocksolidness restarting all testing
Intel Crashed 3x since last night with the new testing on Asus 955x
Count them up to 12 crashes for intel, Zero for AMD.
I must admit, he had me goin for a sec too, good job! and yes that cooler looks different to me too,
nice photochop.. if only it were reall.. well it probably will be.. just set the cpu fan to 1000rpm and let it glow!
Nothing new is happening..I guess heat was their issue. But changing the 6 boards, sli > single video card and last changing the stock HSF to a higher RPM/CFM cooler totally voids this stress test for Intel.
oh well, off to school..
ROFL THAT WAS GREAT ;) :woot: :explode2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hans.Gruber
:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
:toast:
LOL Hans:)
Intel: for all your rolling blackout needs.
(if anyone lives in the southwest around here u'll get that joke)
Go the PC wizzards at Tom's 'Its running at 90 degrees lads, and it keeps crashing, is it too hot do we think?' 'No, cant be, its only two prescotts on one die!'
mhtml:http://www.csc.calpoly.edu/~smanning/44.mht!intel.html
Did anyone notice that voltage was lowered when cpu went under load?
ya. that was commented on a while ago.. apparently some think that the THG guys lowered the voltage in the bios below stock levels. but this is just conjecture. it could be the mobo misreading the voltage.
Looks like Intel has open system case, Intel has no reading for system temps..
So Intel is missing case temp and CPU temp dropped 20 C, i just wonder...
muahahahahhah this the best thread i have ever read since the discovery of UTT!!
it's even better!!
EDIT: subscribed off course!!
... :stick: thats a pic of the intel system btw, kinda hard to tell from all the smoke... Looks like the majic smoke is coming out from the p4 system.
ya it was a joke wfarid... but give intel 2 years and it wont be a joke.
lol, anyone notice how about an hour to 2 hours ago the intel reboot was at 4, and now its back at 1, i swear, my frend lives 150 miles away from there, ima get him to go shoot them a holes for rigging everything they do
what !! they changed it again.. this is nuts.. let me go check
no it says 3 reboots on my end here... try refresshing the page.
and even if they did. violence is not that answer.. sending this to the INQ and posting it on our front page IS the asnwer.. Saaya is working on that now.. and ill send the article to the INQ when its done.. trust me when i say half the computing world will know what a fraud THG is.
yet again they run divx on the amd system for a few seconds, and it gets 10 minutes so fast, they get scared and exit, ya it jus popped back up to 3
oh ya, just so u guys know, i think the drop in temp is cuz they started pumping more volts into the cpu fan, lol, its now running at more than 1500 rpm
They certainly did add some volts.. More volts to P4 fan.Quote:
Originally Posted by trance565
There is update at tomshardware in german, but that 3rd update soon probably is in english too.
wow that changed everything how many times, and intel restarted on all setups. While AMD has YET to reboot... Wow, i mean i knew intel was bad, but i never thought it was THIS bad. Respect goes out to AMD...
Read the german site...Dudes.. what havnt they swaped on this system..
-6 motherboards
-2 HSFs
-2 memories
-2 PSUs
I'm telling the problem resides with the core. Maybe they should just get another X2 so they can complete the test;)
AMD :Quote:
Originally Posted by Lithan
config :
>> current config, 1 vid card to "even" the Intel's
>> reboots : 0
Intel :
>>config : 7th Asus Mobo , fried PSU , Fried CPU, current Ram , fried Vid card.
>> reboots : 0 :rofl:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hans.Gruber
Heehee..:)
WTF the intel killed all of them, or did they replace it because it wasn't functioning "alright"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zebo
But intel should fix this really soon, or they will get serious problems in the future.
Does one of you know btw weather or not the intel has throtled back ? If it did then this are really serious problems :slapass:
Well.... I like the AMD more so, I don't really care ;)
Lol, intel is now only at 70°C :owned:
Isnt anyone wondering why in the hell cant that guy setup a pc correctly. If intel computers burst into flames 3 times in a day in real life, dell would be out of business. I think this "test" has goten way too much press and seems to be done by people who could crash a toaster oven.
This is their Pentium D 840EE, a chip known to run that hot. One, that as far as I know, is not offered by Dell, as they tend to not use intel's top end chips... These temps ARE the same as every other reviewer showed, and actually a bit lower, as most said they had an IDLE of 60C!
:::edit:::
They DEFINITELY changed the fan on it, I'm not sure about the cooler entirely, but definitely the fan!
Oh, really?Quote:
Originally Posted by DilTech
idle 60 = 5-6C more than load on amd hahaha
Don't blame THG, others have had problems too.
There are others, but very few have balls to say that Intel sucks (they might piss off sponsors).Quote:
http://www.motherboards.org/reviews/...re/1513_3.html
I must say in all fairness to AMD that the board they sent to us as their platform representative was much more user friendly than Intel's 955 board that gave us nothing but a hard time right out of the gate.
We spent a week of our time just getting the board to even recognize their own damn CPU, which was more than a mere headache as it sent us back on our schedule by days and wasted many precious man hours just fiddling with the board.[/b]
Well then, lets rejoice that theyre getting the hell away from netburst before long.
I still fail to see how this is 12 pages worthy. Nobody reads THG unless its to laugh at them, and not many more people will run out to buy a high end pentium D.
i want to see this in the front page just funny
We all know how this is going to end
Intel 0 reboots AMD 125 reboots
A, Someone should have slept at a Holliday Inn express last night.
B, Bench monkey is on vacation.
C, The Amiga classes did not help the THG team with AMD/Intel setup as promised.
D, Hellen Keller was a bad choice to lead this project.
E, They have no clue what they are doing.
^^ didnt get the joke :(
If they at THG are not skilled enough to build a system, why AMD is running 24/7 ?
I would understand that they fooked something, but not this much.
Also many other sites have had lots of problems with Intel dual cores.
It is (Intel dual core) a really pathetic CPU that Intel released in panic.
Ill agree i wouldnt buy a pentium D, but to use the word panic is kinda funny
Im sure if you had side by side a celeon 2ghz and an a64 3000+, the customer would still buy the intel cpu, so i very much doubt intel is scared heh
ailleur not at that level but high end they are quite scared :P
dont worry guys. its going on the front page. kazoo will post it when she gets home.
But it's the corporate customers that Intel is afraid to loose.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ailleur
Corporate customers are usually very loyal if you get to be their supplier, AND that is were the money is.
Also AMD is is increasing x86 server sales faster than Intel (big money).
So that word panic does apply quite well to Intel, just use the internet.. :D
btw. this is great news for us since Intel is not going away, they just have competition and they are going to improve.
4k rpm for the intel fan weird is going faster but load temp is 70°c and i dont get why the amd systems just encoded 30min of video :S
amd is encoding so little becuase windows for some unknown reason decided to se the encoding priority REALLY low instead of normal where it should be and THG wont change it becuase this is just somethign windows is doing.. i can see how this is fair, but with how many concessions were made for the intel machine, why not give amd a break here and let it have a fighting chance with the encoding. besides if they do that the other benchmarks intel is getting slammed in will not be so drastic losses. thigns will balance out more.
better to see just amd losing 1 and intel getting owned in the other 3 xD somebody here knows ppl over thg to talk to them ????
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ailleur
most people don't run crazy stability stress tests. Rarely (like once in a blue-moon) do Dell users place anywhere near the stress the THG is putting those chips under.
So they finally admitted that they P4D isn't stable on stock and upgraded the cooling eh?
I can only say one thing....
Booyah! Who yo daddy!
I dont think its healthy to criticize Intel's Dual Core platform just because of heat. Perhaps AMD's X2 series runs cooler, however, anyone here at Xtreme should already know that if they're buying a smithfield, its meant to used under watercooling, heck even the reviews tell you that much.
Under watercooling, a 4ghz Smithfield can do many things in many ways to both an X2 and an FX ;) ...I mean, if they were encoding apps here, even if the 840EE had rebooted 10 times, it would still be a head in encoding tasks lol. Each processor has its own pros and cons.
Also, this isnt Intel's definitive dual core solution. You'd have to wait for Presler or Dempsey - which happens to be two 65nm cores clocked at up to 3.8ghz on air...So we have yet to see Intel's full potential with their dual core strategy and members should know better than to scoff at Intel just because of one mere stress test. By no means am I pro-intel, but i've learned not to biased towards AMD either.
Perkam
According to reviews I've seen perkam, X2 kicks the crap out of P4D's in most encoding programs. And single core P4 with HT also beat them in at least half of the tests I've seen.
Plenty of reason for most.Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
Perhaps ? :DQuote:
Perhaps AMD's X2 series runs cooler
AMD X2 can do under watercooling things that no other CPU can do. :)Quote:
Under watercooling, a 4ghz Smithfield can do many things in many ways to both an X2 and an FX
What cons AMD X2 has ? (dont say price, we know it's not cheapest).Quote:
Each processor has its own pros and cons.
It is the best what Intel has for x86 !Quote:
Also, this isnt Intel's definitive dual core solution.
You'd have to wait for Presler or Dempsey - which happens to be two 65nm cores clocked at up to 3.8ghz on air...So we have yet to see Intel's full potential with their dual core strategy
Also todays CPU'sare not "final solution", both AMD and Intel will improve.
So what is your point ?
It's amusing. :DQuote:
members should know better than to scoff at Intel just because of one mere stress test.
Doth thou skoff?
I skoffeth!
And now we all step into a new level of rediculousness.
btw intel is coming up on teh 10 hour mark.. wonder if it is going to crash or not?
I wouldn't doubt them just yet ;) http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=61987
Hmmm...I dont really wanna turn this into Intel vs AMD, as long as its healthy jeering, I guess I shouldn't mind :)
Perkam
perkam you cant say future dampsey or preseler will be better they still are netburst tecnology and when those cpus come amd will have m2 socket around here so we may see in the future which is better
Yea and it'll require DDR2 ;) But actually, the reason I am trying to convince you guys of comparing it with Pressler was because it will be coming q1 2006...Socket m2 wont come until Second half of 2006...think q3 or q4 of 2006 : http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/05...t_m2_desktops/ .Quote:
Originally Posted by leviathan18
That's why :)
Perkam