Just thought I would show this page of up coming crossfire mobos. Looks like DFI will be in the game also:)
http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/...spx?i=2434&p=4
Nice 2 slot spacing between PCI-E cards I might add;)
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Just thought I would show this page of up coming crossfire mobos. Looks like DFI will be in the game also:)
http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/...spx?i=2434&p=4
Nice 2 slot spacing between PCI-E cards I might add;)
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Very cool I was checking these out last night:Quote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
Asus (out): being intel only :p:
Gigabyte: Wondering why 2 sockets for bios chips?
MSI: Looks nice but imagine having a big cooler or phase change bolted in place and having to pull the battery and clear cmos?
DFI: Definately looks like a winner again. :)
Yes, DFI does look good, but the fact that ATI has pressured them to use the SB450 instead of the ULi southbridge has them worried, so it worries me also :(
Notice the DFI chipset fan. Right square in the middle of the 2 slots this time, perfect location, they learned their lesson:)
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Lets hope DFI doesn't take any crap from chipset makers:DQuote:
Originally Posted by IRQ Conflict
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They wouldn't push them to do it unless they think that it will work it make both co. look bad if it fails and I don't think either want to chance that...
Dragon
I like DFI's battery placment ALWAYS have they are wherer you can get to them when ANYTHING is installed I love it!!! the DFI boards looks like it will ROCK...the MSI boards the Asus and Gigabyte board are all in a bad place...
Dragon
I don't see any 4V memory jumper on that Bad boy, I hope she has the same potential as the NF4 mobo.
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http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=31844&stc=1
MSI has the new SATA ports to lock in the cable...I didn't think that they where doing that yet...
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Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
It is probly like the gruper board all done in bios...nothing to move or change, directly from the 5 volt 24/7 and it is ran through a circuit to drop it down and filter it to make sure it is clean the mem voltage adjust ment is as fine as .02 or something like also
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I want one already:DQuote:
Originally Posted by FireDragon
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i think u're like 10000000000 in line lol
If that was true it would Make DFI top of the tier one charts:DQuote:
Originally Posted by babyelf
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The ati southbridge is fine, nothing to worry about im told
Nothing wrong with the NF4 DFI battery placement in my setup. All you need is the right case;)Quote:
Originally Posted by FireDragon
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http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=31845&stc=1
Wow another plus forgot about always having to check to make sure the weight of the dice tube didn't cause the card to move a bit and stop the fan. :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
Tony,Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtoe
Whats the inside scoop on the DFI mobo? When will we see it out on the shelves?
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looks like its either this or the sapphire dependent on whether the dfi gets the the whole range of voltage adjustments like the sapphire es board or not.
I don't see why it wouldn't. DFI is making it after all, I'd guess they can pretty much put what they want to in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cossey
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Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
Yeah I like DFI bat placment...I have a Lian-Li case and I love it...the MSI and everyone elses batts are in a bad place...
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The Sapphier and DFI board i bet will be almost the EXACT same maby have a lil differnt lay out...but as fare as voltages they will be about the same...also I think the DFI board will be better just from having the know how and the long term trial and error...also I think that DFI will have better bios support thatn sapphire will...
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wouldn't that be nice :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
I have a question for Grayskill if he'd like to elaborate a little more on this. I've been reading over this thread that you started about how ATI and Macci got together and put up some nice numbers. The thing I would like to ask is this. As stated below, you said that they were not hand picked cards, and before that you said that anyone can go to the store and with the "right knowledge", get a 900 core also.
"Believe what you will, but I will tell you again, these are not hand picked cards. What you should consider is that someone knows how to tweak things better than anyone else. It is possible and in this case it is true." Posted by (Grayskull post #197)
we have all known that Macci is a master of making hardware do the imposable, or even the possible, but he actually puts numbers behind a reasoning or idea that many have come up with. We know he speaks the truth in his postings and gives us average joe's some insight of what we can do to better our performance. In his posting he mentions this below.
...but yes I suppose it does take a bit more than just the cooling and the Vgpu mod to get there... posted by Macci (post #199)
Posting this in regards to his clock, how are we supposed to perceive your comments exclaiming and even getting angry at other users when they are calling out that the cards had to be hand picked. Myself, being a computer hardware consumer would like to know the truth when it comes to testing and benching of any product. I've never been a fan of sites that sugar coat their results so they can increase sales of an item. As I know ATI is a billion dollar corporation and wouldn't need to do such a thing, it would be nice to know the truth. What is the shame in saying it is hand picked if it was. Some of your comments are misleading and would really appreciate some clarifications. Sorry if I offended anyone as I did not mean to, I was only questioning some statements that were made.
-Marc
Very good question and no offense taken.
What Macci is saying should be interpreted literally, as it's exactly true. It will take more than cooling and a Vgpu mod to the card to get as fast as he did. This doesn't imply that the cards were golden in any way. It just means more tweaks and mods are required.
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Originally Posted by mrnuke
i heart lian li cases, is that your normal everyday use rig opp? I'm assuming im not seeing a triple cascade nearby or heavy insulation ... And i can't wait too see a -200C cascade... I didn't think that was possible, thats colder than LN2!!!
Now that I can understand. Got any pics of said cards ;) :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Grayskull
Cards weren't hand picked since ATI supplied macci all their Crossfire cards they had in Toronto :D
Where are the extra power connectors? I can't see them.Quote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
I have been one of the peeps that was called out on my comments - now in retrospect I actually agree that I was off to downplay the achievement of Macci and assuming that it was a cakewalk with a handpicked card and setup.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrnuke
Hopefully soon I will get close being able to answer that...being trying to do some cherry picking - already went thru buying and selling 6 X850 trying to find a great clocker...not yet unfortunately.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grayskull
I actually feel that the core might be an easier quest than the memory - at least all my cards have been very poor in that respect.
Maybe Macci had a trick for the mem too...
lol - hopefully not since we're all hoping that they'll be shipping soon!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sampsa
That doesn't mean anything.....well maybe;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sampsa
Now that's interesting, he's modding something on the front side of the card rather than the back. Wonder what.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Troman
what about the v-i/o mod as well, done at the same time? there were 6 or 7 VR's on that card. Someone posted what the mods were:nono:, and then the post was removed.. :slapass:Quote:
Originally Posted by Troman
Just look at the pink markings on the sheets that are under the card that engineer is modding, that could give some of you an idea of what he was modding there.
EDIT: also have a look on those VR's soldered to that strange yellow conector beside the pci-e power connector.
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Originally Posted by SewerSide
Anyone has a copy of that post? :D, With precedents like that, I don't think anyone will tell us the whole list of mods done on those cards.Quote:
Originally Posted by cadaveca
Appears to be a mod to one of these mini mosfets, so maybe just a voltage monitor.
This is the best I could get it.
It's not exacly hard to find specs on little vreg chips, just check the voltage going into the sense leg, throw a 100K potentiometer on it and give the card 10% more voltage to that area and watch for additional clock speeds or artifacts.
OK, so then were gonna see over 900mhz from you soon then;)Quote:
Originally Posted by craig588
No cash.
i wonder what happened to the 5v 9800xt mod...must be something similar on these cards. my x800 tossed up it's hands and died, and i just got an agp xl...