my retail 4200+ shipped yesterday too! yay!
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my retail 4200+ shipped yesterday too! yay!
X2s finally reaching Europe? Overclock.co.uk have the 4200+ in stock.
:D Not my personal choice - but resellers here in Germany have listed & ordered it and availability is dated on Juli/15.
:toast:
komplett also have 3 4200+ in stock. Hopefully the 4400+ will be in stock by Friday.
Hope so too, I ordered my 4400+ from themQuote:
Originally Posted by nicholarse
Just ordeded one from fry's, even with next day air total was only $561.77. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris27
What does "delivery exception" mean? Despite my note/signature I don't think they left it :mad: They left the other package I did not leave a note for though!
Eric
Never mind. I'm told it made its way back to the Fedex office and I can drop by to pick it up on the way home :)
Looking forward to your WC results :) and everyone elses. :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
I'm hoping the 4800+ can get to 3.0GHZ on WC.
IMO, the 4600 has a better shot at hitting 3G on water...Quote:
Originally Posted by REDKEN
Woot :)Quote:
Your Order has been packed, and is currently awaiting shipment in our warehouse.
Your Consignment number (for despatch tracking) is xxx and was shipped by Amtrak Courier.
....
If there is a problem you must keep all packaging and any damaged item(s) for inspection by Overclockers UK.
The following poducts are on this order, if there are any discrepancies please contact Overclockers as soon as possible by phone on 0870 443 0880.
CP-127-AM AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 4400+ (Socket 939) - Retail (ADA4400CDBOX) (CP-127-AM) x 1
Hopefully my 4400+ as well. So far at least 2.75Ghz @ 1.475v BIOS. I can probably still drop that vcore too.Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
Eric
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Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
why? lower cache?
4800 boxed just arrived. :)
I second that questionQuote:
Originally Posted by xgman
topless:
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...oc.aspx?i=2452
Just posted today... Looks like 2.7 on air is all they could muster. I dont think H20 is going to get you 3.0. That is a 4200 btw.
Interesting - different week number.Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
They had 61 °C at the high overclock settings, my winchester started crapping out at 60, so i guess with better cooling even that one could have gone a bit further. 2700 isn't too bad anyways, wonder how much hotter 4400+ will run.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Mofo
They should of used a heat pipe cooler imho. 61 is pretty damn hot!
The reatil box 4800 I got comes with a heatpipe cooler.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Mofo
ZZF has all of the retail X2's in stock! Just ordered a 4400+ overnight!
Retail 4200+ $580 Shipped
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...ctCode=80725-R
Retail 4400+ $610 Shipped - fyi, within 30 minutes they just jacked up the price to $640
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...ctCode=80726-R
Retail 4600+ $830 Shipped
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...ctCode=80727-R
Retail 4800+ $1040 Shipped
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...ctCode=80728-R
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Originally Posted by xgman
Thats good to know, but if you read the article, AT used some cheesy ass cooler on their review. Do all of the X2s come with heatpipe coolers or just the 4800?
I don't know, but I don't think anyone who buys such an expensive cpu would use a cheapy cooler, but then again . . .
Komplett have put back the 4800+ date to "lead time 14 days"
im not impressed :(
Letting a little CPU nudity slide by are we :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
couldn't help myself :D
Bingo! ;) GL with the cpu....she'll look a lot better in a socket.... :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
Just got my 4200 in today and it came with a heat pipe cooler, kinda reminds me of a small XP90.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Mofo
arrrgghhh....the 4400 gone quick!! it's out of stock already....WTF???Quote:
Originally Posted by Capt_Caveman
Now 29th June for my 4400+ from komplett and thats unconfirmed, not so good :(
Just received confirmation of delivery from Dabs.Com for my 4400+ and I should get it either on Mon or Tues.
Glad I ordered it when I did as their next batch of 4400+ aren't due for another 3-4 weeks according to their site :)
Mwave has them in stock now:
https://www.mwave.com/mwave/ViewProd...essors+%2D+CPU
Gladiator say the 4800 is 6-8 days late - they were due in this week. :(
Have sold my FX55 too, so back to the old workhorse 2.4 northwood for me for a couple of weeks!
I want a 4400+ so much. But it's just too damn pricey.
I hope it will be priced same as a Boxed 3700+ SD in a month or two.
Yup, lower cache is less heat so they will OC better because of the lower heat output.Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
You wish :p: lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Hombre
Usama aka Ferrari Freak
I was at Fry's electronics today they say they'll have the retail boxed X2 4400
in a week to a week in a half.
They also showed in their computer that
http://www.outpost.com their online site does have stock
of 30 or so pieces now, though when I look on their www site myself now that I'm
home I see outpost hasn't updated that into their customer accessable site yet.
So if anyone's looking for the retail X2 4400 give outpost a call or look next week
in Fry's.
Fry's SKU 4462236 $599.99; I assume Outpost may be the same SKU / price.
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Originally Posted by [timko]
Timko, be up in the morning, dab's , as with a lot of uk stores don't actually use a different method to send for next day or 1-3 day delivery, they just hold back sending it out for a couple days, gives them a chance to get out the orders placed with next day. anyway everything i've got from dabs(and its a lot) comes parcel force 24, which will delivery to home address's on saturday. not always but 80% of the time parcelforce will deliver on sat. i'm gonna be up incase \o/.
Ok, sounds like a plan then DrunkenMaster :)
got one tonight... 4200+ ... but check the default Vcore. :D
I just hope my Epox board works with this puppy. :confused:
Just got my 4400+ from Dabs.Com
http://img62.echo.cx/img62/6820/my44003ag.jpg
CCBWE 0522 TPMW
Nice1 timko, any results from overclocking?Quote:
Originally Posted by [timko]
It would be nice to see Dual Core mobo's like this:
http://www.tomshardware.com/motherbo...119/index.html
Even though the CPUs are expensive, its still works out as a cheaper option when you concider there isn't much of a performance hit (i.e. 1 core per user, as opposed to buying a single core pc for each user).
Does anyone know whats happening with the X2s from komplett? It still says 49 due for yesterday ??
Newegg is out of control and selling the 4400 x2 for $719....jesus...that's insane!
^^ Thats fairly cheap for UK price. :(
you seen their FX57 price? Over $1300!! They have lost it and gotten greedy.Quote:
Originally Posted by ben805
Yes I saw....can't believe my eyes, it's way over AMD's MSRP! :slapass:Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
I rang them yesterday and they said they'd be in stock yday afternoon. I don't think they have a clue when they'll be getting them to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by nicholarse
Its £769 in some places in the UK. Thats $1384.Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
Quote:
Originally Posted by [timko]
Overclock that sucker!!!..I wanna know if its worth the upgrade on the 4200+
:):):)
Actually I suggest burning in slowly... I find my CPU behaving very well with burn in (still in process... it might take me a month at rate I am going by as I started from 1.2v for burn in process :P after initially finding extra 50mhz in as little as few hours) I am finally at 1.275 v right now lol... (1.275 bios setting 1.23 actual v-core reading) Got long way to go to my comfortable 1.57v range for daily setting. (going up by 0.25v increment or so with about 8 hours each volt when I can get some time in)Quote:
Originally Posted by thebeast
PS) Burn in rarely worked for me on other processors... this is first time I do see improvement so noticeble.
Due date 07/07/05 now :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Agent-JCDenton
Gladiator say they "hope" they will get some in "next week". :(
Overclockers say next weds.
I just noticed the 4400+ showed up again at newegg.. except first it was $639..
Now it says $719.00!!!!!!! :shock:
Yea newegg.com has a automatic system for adjusting price on the fly according to demand so depending on how many they're selling over a given amount of time the price can go up to amazing amounts...
Monarchcomputer.com is selling em' for $660 according to www.pricewatch.com right now, you can get a 4200+ for about $557 right now as well.
Price gouging sucks though...
... ya get what you pay for... just imagine, you are getting two 3700+ cpu's and don't have to upgrade any other parts. :)
Its still wrong, newegg. is blindingly bending people over. I have pretty much stopped shopping there over the last 18 months, this is just the last straw.
Hey guys,
Just thought I'd let you know that outpost has the 4400+ in stock now for the price someone quoted a few pages back, $599 for the retail.
By the way, I'm new but I've been lurking for awhile and getting lots of great info here. It's a great forum. :)
Yeah I got a 4400 from outpost the other day for $599, they didn't have them listed on the site at the time but when I called they said they had like 3-4 more in stock, maybe thats why they didn't have them listed yet.
Hey LBJGH i notice in your sig the Epox 9NDA3+, what's it been like to use? :)
The board has been solid as nails and an excellent overclocker provided you have TCCD/TCC5 memory since the 9nda3+ lacks Vdimm over 2.80v.
I'm still waiting for a bios to run the X2 correctly. Epox support responded to my e-mail last week saying the bios would be out shortly.
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Originally Posted by daffy67
Thanks, a friend is looking to get this board. :)
Hey LBJGH:
Thanks for mentioning the EPOX board; it looks great, I'm leaning toward it now
for my X2-4400+ / Pny Verto Gf6800 AGP / 4 GBy RAM box based on its specs.
I hope they come out with an X2 bios for it soon!
How does your Zalman 7000CNPSCu fit over your EPOX 9NDA3+ ?
Does it mount properly with the Zalman backplate & mounting hardware without
any capacitors & parts under / over the area being in the way?
Did you have to do anything special to get that to fit, or use some custom combination
of the EPOX backplate & Zalman mounting kit?
Does the Zalman come too close to any RAM sticks in even the closest slots to the
CPU?
Does the Zalman come too close to your AGP card?
Are you actually *using* the X2 4400+ in it now or are you just using another
CPU while you wait for the X2 compatible BIOS?
If you're using the X2 now, what OEM BIOS did you first get it working with,
and what did have to do in terms of BIOS settings to get the X2 set up?
I wasn't under the impression from the WWW page that the stock BIOS even
*let* one chose CPU voltage down as low as the 1.30 V that some X2s are spec'd
for; I'm afraid of frying the CPU if the MB old BIOS doesn't recognize the X2 and
boots with some high Vcore value on the CPU or whatever. What default Vcore
did it boot your X2 at? Were the default frequencies right even with the original
"non X2 compatible" BIOS?
Is it true EPOX includes MOSFET heat sinks bundled with the motherboard by
default? HEXUS' review seemed to imply that which sounds great but I wonder
why they didn't just put them on at the factory if it does come with them... are there
mounting holes or something or do you have to glue the CPU MOSFET heatsink on?
Can one large rectangular heatsink cover all the MOSFETs nicely or do you have
to use four or eight small ones?
Any clue which of the 4 SATA ports are "locked asynchronous" to your
CPU clock so they remain working correctly even if you OC the CPU beyond
260 MHz? I understand many other motherboards have some or all of the SATA
ports on external controller chips, and that they don't clock those chips in such
a way that you can OC the CPU past 260 and have those ports work right.
Any horrible BIOS bugs / annoyances other than the X2 CPU support lacking?
Do you notice your rail voltages, CPU Vcore or RAM, AGP, or 3.3 rails dropping /
fluctuating much under heavy load? HEXUS seemed to have a problem with that.
http://www.hexus.net/content/reviews...lld19JRD05Mjc=
Where'd you buy the board? Find an especially good supplier / deal?Quote:
The most important factor, as far as we enthusiasts are concerned, is the ability to lock AGP/PCI buses. Previous S939 boards have purportedly implemented them, but have been found wanting when tested. Driven clock can be adjusted from 200MHz up to 400MHz, all in 1MHz increments. The latter figure may sound daft, but forum reports suggest that 300MHz driven clock, CPU and memory permitting, is on the cards. CPU voltage ranges from 1.55v-1.70v. Increments could be better, though, as voltage rises by 0.05v at a time. DIMM voltage tops out at 2.8v, supposedly, but what's worrying is a load figure of closer to 2.65v. Premium RAM is often specified to run with at least 2.75v, so the undervolting here is of concern. AGP and chipset voltages rise to 1.8v and 1.75v, respectively.
PS are the DIMM slots so close together that your DIMM heat spreaders
are touching / too close when you use them in adjacent slots (which looks
necessary if you want to use dual channel and stick to the same colored
slot).?
Thanks!
The Zalman 7000cu fits fine but is a little tight around DIMM 1. I was able to install some corsair twinx pc4000pro (which are taller than most ram) while contacting the heatsink in DIMM 1. I currently use OCZ platinum and they just clear the HSF in DIMM1.
I used the Zalman backing plate.
The latest bios (April 1, 2005) will run ONE core of the X2 at the default voltage (actually the epox board runs the CPU at 1.35v) without any problems.
Ya, the 9nda3+ comes with the power pack which is rounded cables, mosfet heatsinks and a mini screwdriver.
Here are a few pics:
http://ca.geocities.com/lbjgh@rogers.com/x.jpg
http://ca.geocities.com/lbjgh@rogers.com/y.jpg
http://ca.geocities.com/lbjgh@rogers.com/z.jpg
Got the board at Canada Computers (North Toronto)
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Originally Posted by synergy