Could this be true?! :eek: *runs off to test the RPM on the OCZ PowerStream LED fan*Quote:
Originally Posted by andyOCZ
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Could this be true?! :eek: *runs off to test the RPM on the OCZ PowerStream LED fan*Quote:
Originally Posted by andyOCZ
LMAO!Quote:
Originally Posted by iddqd
Something like 90% of all RMA's work fine and meet spec. Once they have been returned they can't be sold as new.Quote:
Originally Posted by redgoo
Many RMA's are guys fishing for RAM that overclocks better than their buddies does. This doesn't always work out as they plan.
I sold a set of ram "UTT" that in my dfi with bios 3-10p did at 3.2v "3.24 real" 240mhz@2-2-2-5. Now this guy was tring to get the sticks to work on a dfi nf3 with supposly vmods "done right he said i guess" and was tring 200mhz@2-2-2-5 with each stick thinking ok 1 stick can do 240mhz@3.2v it should do 200mhz@3v, but it wasn't happening. After a few days he was mad and thought I sold him 1 bad stick so he ships me them both back to test. Off they go into the dfi lowest timings possible at 3.24v at 240mhz and pass everything with fling colors..
So guys with UTT there might be a sweet spot bios/voltage/timings ya have to work with this ram to get it working on some setups, but just becasue it errors on one doesn't means its totaly defective. :)
PS:And before you say "well It shouldn't be like that" remember TCCD is just as bad, lol
What about OCZ PC-3200 VX Gold? What chips -- I like mine but they seem to require high VDIMM run tight timings.
they are UTT, and yes they are designed to run at high voltage
all UTT needs high voltage.
IMO anything less than 3.2v for VX is not good as it needs 3.2v+ to perfom to par :)
Thanks, maybe the 3200 Gold is better if you can't run high VDMIMM?
Sandybeach ,
We get a lot of that , in fact about 80-90% of returned memory does just fine on our testbeds
VX = Extreme voltage :-)
Thanks, made for the booster or DFi boards!?
Either :)...although they are said to be "A64 optimized" I don't know what exactly that means...Quote:
Originally Posted by sauria
means it works better on A64?? LOL
yeah, its going to work the best on an Athlon 64 platform. :)
jjcom
Thats right :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanpgroovy
4,3v was no problem @277mhz 2-2-2-5 DC :banana:
normally above 3.7v there are no more gains
True, normally yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by enzoR
But i had had still gains for ~3,9v.
So I gues VX is not normal memory ;)
no uve got some special sticks then. All VX i have seen didnt produce any gains above 3.7ish v's. Most even started erroring out.
good point andy!Quote:
Originally Posted by andyOCZ
if your buying 3200 memory, it's not rated to 240-260mhz :rolleyes:
I just don't understand some people. Naturally, I would want the high freq, but I don't think screwing the company is a way to go about your overclocking.
any chance of buying the RMA ram that doesn't get 270 2-2-2-5 like people want?
hmm^^ promise the next ram i purchase with be OCZ ^^ next year when i'm 16 i'll get some kinda job and i'll see what i can do, it's be crucial for me since my first build lolz, and my 512 mb ballistix has done me well since it was a £51 off ebay :)
You might find that on eBay or "refurbs"
What voltage will the new OCZ BH-5's be warrantied up to?
I'd hope 4.0v :DQuote:
Originally Posted by SLaY3r07
But that's probably wishful thinking hahah
:toast:
If they did that, I would sell my soul to OCZ :rotf:Quote:
Originally Posted by Garrett
I think 3v +5%, OCZ 3200 EL Gold at least... :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by SLaY3r07
Nothing special... :stick:
yup 3.0v -/+ 5% http://www.ocztechnology.com/product...l_channel_gold which equals 3.15v max
i'm testing 2x 512MB OCZ PC3200 Gold right now on DFI NF4 SLI-D
tips for this ram on DFI NF4 SLI-D
1. don't use 325 or 326 bios they mess up the ram clocks and threw me off track as to what the ram can do. i.e. lower cpu multipliers in 325 bios don't work 10x/9x
2. best bios so far 310 official bios
3. with 310 official bios fix ddram data drive strength = 1 otherwise you can sometimes BSOD in windows, i set drive strength at 2, 4, 6, 8 fine with no probs
4. ram with 310 official bios performs nearly exactly like old BH-5 in terms of mhz ceilings at each vdimm setting
5. like old BH-5, the new BH die stuff on this ram doesn't boot at cas3
6. ram is untested beyond 200mhz speed so guess not even OCZ know what they are consistently capable of overclocking wise from module to module
so far with 310 official bios with 2x 512MB OCZ PC3200 Gold on DFI NF4 SLI-D i'm at memtest86+ v1.55.1 wise
240mhz 2-2-2-5 at 3.0v
245mhz 2-2-2-5 at 3.1v
250mhz 2-2-2-5 at 3.2v
255mhz 2-2-2-5 at 3.3v
260mhz 2-2-2-5 at 3.5v
266mhz 2-2-2-5 at 3.6v <-- only ran 25 passes
using 3500+ CAA2C 0507 GPMW cpu
dude... thanks for the results... I believe you are the first to post...
Nice results eva, looks to be compareable to OCZ vx4000
which is the same as BH-5 back thenQuote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
just curious eva, have oyu burned these in yet?
Lookin good. How does she respond with lower volts?
no burn in yet... want to see how these do straight out of the box first :)
lower volts
200mhz 2-2-2-5 at 2.8v
225mhz 2-2-2-5 at 2.9v
3.0-3.1v is where they start to fly into 240mhz region
Hope those babies burn in good
Thanks for the post Eva, those modules would be great for those that dont want insane memory clocks or insane vDimm... 240 2-2-2 3.0vDimm is a very good moderate overclock... perfect for those with higher multis
Just want to make sure, eva2000...
You're testing VX PC3200 Gold, not VX PC3200 Value, right?
2x 512MB PC3200 Gold BH5 the stuff http://www.ocztechnology.com/product...l_channel_goldQuote:
Originally Posted by bachus_anonym
Thankya much :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
Can you clarify what you are talking about here EVA?Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
Thanks
i.e.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyderOCZ
325 bios
11x 245mhz 2-2-2-5 at 3.1v memtest fine
10x 245mhz 2-2-2-5 at 3.1v hangs prior to loading memtest
11x 225+ mhz 2-2-2-5 at 2.9v hangs prior to loading memtest unless i change cas to 2.5 so 11x 225-245mhz 2.5-2-2-5 load memtest fine
310 official bios no probs with 10x multiplier and using cas2 >225mhz
http://www.atacom.com/program/print_...EDD_OCZT_AG_C2
Value VX just got a lot cheaper...BH is going down lower also....dependant on IC prices but we are trying to get better pricing for you guys.
woah you're serious US$114 for 1GB of ram :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtoe
Isn't that April Fool's Day Special @ Atacom, Tony ? :lol: :ROTF:
its real actually , but it is value vx . See the first post for info about how it performs
@ Eva2000,
Just a friendly tip regarding Memtest ;)
You might want to test it with "Memtest for Windows" because this program gives quite a "reality-check" as far as memory stability goes.
I've learned it hard way how deceiving running only DOS/BIOS memtest can be :)
I know it's Value... Hmm.. makes me wanna pull a trigger on some of it. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanpgroovy
Eva have you tried the most recent Beta bios
do you have a link for this program?Quote:
Originally Posted by bachus_anonym
yes i know the limitations of memtest86+ http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=6 it's only a starting point which can potentially be lower in windows after stability testing ( http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=327 )Quote:
Originally Posted by bachus_anonym
not yet, 325 left a bad taste in my mouth heheQuote:
Originally Posted by ryanpgroovy
will try later
Thanks for the 3200EL Gold results Eva :toast:
Any updates on how they are doing at 266MHz ?
omg...114.95!!!
never a time has there been SO many options at so many GOOD A$$ ram!!
Looks like Mushkin's low $ Blue-line with BH5 has some price competition going now :D
Man! That program is harsh.... maybe even buggy.Quote:
Originally Posted by bachus_anonym
I just tried it out at 10x256 3.2vDimm (my daily speed), and it fails within minutes.... at the same speed I can loop MemTest86 for ever and have run Prime95 Blend for 42hours! Not just that, but 10x250 fails just as quickly.... something aint right
Just confirming that all "OCZ EL DDR PC-3200 Dual Channel Gold" is BH-5, Or is there old stock with other chips and the new ones with BH-5?
And is it out in retail everywhere yet?
where the hell did you get this OCZ EL GOLD BH-5 EVA?
sample from oczQuote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
that is not fair...i want samples too!!!!
ur not as cool as eva tho, You take it he posts all over the net about ram, if you Made ram, siff you wouldn't give him a set, i want some now :D
Lol :)
So... how well do they overclock compared to your other sets of BH-5?
Now we all want toys ehh? Eva works hard for his...its not all toys and no work ;)
Awesome work George as usual ;)
If 10x256Mhz passes everything but Windows MemTest, don't worry about it. People got all freaked out about Winnie's failing Prime95 when they first came out, but if they pass everything else who really cares :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rabbi_NZ
When i say i want some now, i mean i wanna waste a week and a halfs pay ;)
thanks Tony... DFI NF4 certainly does help tweak out more mhz for memory across the board regardless of brand :)Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtoe
about the same actually 2x 512MB XMS3500C2v1.1 BH-5 does 260mhz 2-2-2-6 at 3.6v as well, one difference is Trc cutoff value in memtest for changes in bandwidth reported differs i.e.Quote:
Originally Posted by iddqd
with 2x 512MB XMS3500C2v1.1 BH-5 memtest bandwidth with Trc 11 to 13 is same as 2x 512MB OCZ PC3200 Gold BH-5 Trc of 9 to 11
2x 512MB OCZ PC3500 Plat LE BH-5 original stuff still clocks higher at 260-266mhz 2-2-2-6 at 3.6v though.
I see. Then I still have the ultimate BH-5 sticks :). :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
I'm of the same opinion. My 3200+ ClawHammer used to fail Prime at ANY frequency. I even tried underclocking to 1.6GHz... still the stupid rounding error after like a couple seconds.Quote:
Originally Posted by HiJon89
forgive me if this was asked and answered, but what is the value vx sticks product name, looking on ocz site, either i'm blind or i can't see it listed as value vx. Trying to find it but can't spot anything called that at any retail shops, but sure i've seen support threads of people that have bought them.
Any chance somewhere cheap in the uk might have them anytime soon. I "think" overclock.co.uk just got the bh-5 sticks in, but at £190 they are steep(not blaming overclock.co.uk, i used to work there and the guys there rock, just uk pricing everywhere that sucks extremely badly). Just seen the review on anandtech that suggest $195 for the bh-5 and $115 for the value vx, that equates to around £70 for the vx and should be £140 ish for the bh-5.
might get some from somewhere in the states if anyone can recommend somewhere. if the value vx isn't around yet, any idea when we'll start to see it. sure some european readers here would love it if you could recommend one of the stateside sellers as a reliable place to buy it from that would ship internationally. newegg won't, a few places will but can't find many.
http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2392&p=8
WTF???!!
Anandtech points it´s value Vx ram, but there are no winbond markings, like in all other chips.
Still the ram does 240 2-2-2 with 3.3v, wich is certainly winbond.
where can you get the value VX's in Aus? You can't yet can you? I've looked around but it doesn't seem to be around. Looks good performance on the Anandtech forums so if i miss out, it'll be a pitty.
Quick question for you fellas with these VX4000 Gold...
Any of you guys running them on K8N Neo2 mobo's??
Reason why I'm asking bout running them on K8N Neo2 is because I can't seem to get these sticks of mine stable on either of my 2 boards... DFI SLI-D & K8N Neo2...
Was thinking it was a power supply problem with the DFI (which is most likely right as even with 2x256MB BH5, my rig just turns off if I try to OC my cpu/ram)...
But on the K8N Neo2, that's a different story.... I've been able to run my 3200+ on that rig up to 2.5GHz (10x250 1:1) but once I put my VX4000 Gold in, I lose all form of stability...
I have ran memtest at numerous settings but to no avail... These 2 sticks I have are faulty imho but it seems no-one wants to listen to me... Ppl keep telling me to get a 24pin PSU but really, would a 24pin PSU really matter on a K8N Neo2??
These are the only settings that work:
200HTT 1:1 @ 2.9v 2-3-3-8
These are settings that I have tried but it don't work or brings up numerous errors in tes 3, 5 & 6 of Memtest86+ v1.55 & OCZ Memtest v1.0:
200HTT 1:1 @ 3.2v 2-2-2-8 = numerous errors in the 3 tests mentioned above
217HTT 1:1 @ 3.3v 2-2-2-8 = numerous errors (over 1000 errors)
Anything above that & it just errors out... I'm kinda getting sick of ppl telling me to get a 24pin PSU as I've just spent over AUD$1500 on some components...
Think of it this way, I do not have the DFI SLI-D & only gave the K8N Neo2... What would your thoughts about this RAM be then?? Really, I have tested these VX4000 Gold on my 3200+ Winnie/K8N Neo2 as well as my mate's 3500+ NC/K8N Neo2 but these sticks fail miserably...
Any ideas/opinions welcome...
Minnyboy
Long time, no visit... been busy
Recently, while taking apart and cleaning out my system, I scratched the PCB on my Corsair CMX512LL. I wasn't too thrilled because even with chipset voltmod on my NF2 mobo, the RAM would only hold 2-2-2-5 @2.8 up to 220, and CAS2.5 up to 231. I got after selling OCZ3500EL Gold that did 2225 up to 225...-_-
So after the Corsair broke, I cracked the heatspreaders open and found out I indeed did have Winbond BH5. What a shame I never got the chance to put 3+ volts through them.. I'm sure they would have been magnificent.
So now I am deciding between OCZ 3200 GOLD (BH5) or OCZ 3200 VX... leaning towards the BH5 because of nostalgia. Do any of you know any company offering these new BH5 or even UTT that are binned at 249+ @2225... like the OCZ4000VX?
Fir the DFI you MUST have a 24 pin PSU. No negotiation there. The Neo 2 does not need or require one. If you have problems on the DFI after you get a 24 pin PSU with the VX, lets RMA you. The Neo 2 should work, but you might have other factors affecting stability.Quote:
Originally Posted by Minnyboy
I don't have a 24pin psu, and not running adapter, and still run 24/7 1GB BH-5 @ 260MHz 2-2-2Quote:
Originally Posted by andyOCZ
not the norm and not reccommended. consider yourself lucky.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eversor
I gotta try some of this new BH-5, see how well it compares to my current 2 kits.
will OCZ release a higher rated BH5 like there god-like pc3500 plat.?
If they use the same dies, speed ratings mean nothing.
Depends on how they get binned as well. If OCZ were to bin say a PC3500 at something like PC4200 then that'd be great :DQuote:
Originally Posted by masterofpuppets
jjcom
Just got FInished reading the whole thread very informative and good information and nice to see it comming from the manufacturer too. I have always thought of OCZ Memory first when buying memory and now Powersupplies too. Great Company Great products keep up the customer support as well it really does matter.
Dgen
I bow to you. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Eversor
I've been trying to find some Redlines 4000 or OCZ Vx4000 and couldnt find any of them ANYWHERE :( WTF is going on ? :( Are they discontinued or something ? :confused: I have one set of OCZ VX4000 but it wont do 270 benchable and i realy need 270-272MHz :D (the one i have does 264MHz Max. :rolleyes: ). ANyone knows a place that still sells RedLines 4000 and OCZ VX4000 ? :rolleyes:
vx is discontinued
im not sure about redlines, but if they are not on the site...chances are they are discontinued as well too
Where did you hear this?Quote:
Originally Posted by chinkgai
When it disappears from here: http://www.ocztechnology.com/product...ce/gold_series
Then its discontinued.
i heard it from Jimmy Houn in ur rma/techsupport department when he rma'ed my vx about 2-3 weeks ago
and why is it out of stock everywhere?Quote:
Originally Posted by RyderOCZ
Ryder,
Question is what chips are on the VX sticks.
Used to be "new CH" chips, are they still. You know what I mean I'm sure.
I'm looking for a 2nd pr of 3200Gold VX and want them to match the "CH" based current pair I have.
See the list of Ram yes it is still Ch5 chips.
Guys I have read many things about the slots, one man said the best for all rams is orange slots, and an other guy think yellow it's for winbond and high voltage, but for my vx's its all the same.. or I'm lame, and it must be different?