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This chip need not high vcore to do 3.0ghz
We overvolted it in the early stage trying to bench it coz we in a rush for time
Now managed to find it sweet spot
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...0mhz3500PI.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...3500nc3ghz.jpg
Umm... what type of cooling are you using???Quote:
Originally Posted by dfx
Great work! :toast:
I also ordered one from zzf, even though my winnie is @ 2.6 (325x8). I'm never satisfied.... ;)
Beautiful.
ya, what type? this is one crazy chip if it can do 3GHZ stable with under 1.6V..Quote:
Originally Posted by Ackbar
PLEASE say thats on AIR..... !!!!!!!!!!
On phase change :)
still amazing, did u prime it yet?Quote:
Originally Posted by dfx
Amazing :D Thats exactly what speed and mem bw I want!
The overclocking ability n' voltage needed perform almost the same with my FX53
As what's being discussed seem truth to me
A stripped down FX53's these 3500's are
Well or maybe "luck"
hmm...
the new one from chiefvalue sucks....
can't do more than 2.6 prime... w/o erroring w/in 1 minute...
@ 2.7 it'll superpi but that's about it...
won't even do 2.8 with the same volts...
this is a 0502CPMW CAAZC
I keep getting Z's and not 2's.
maybe that's my problem!!! :)
havent..Quote:
Originally Posted by S0nic
will do so later
need to ZZZzzz now as its already 2.40am @ my side now
CAA2C 0506 BPMW
From ZZF.
Currently running stock settings prime95 so I can be sure the new MB and CPU are at least good at stock.
Currently using the stock HSF for a temps standard starting point.
Brand new MSI NEO2 BTW.
I won't have time to bench it until I get off work. I rushed home at lunch and I'm already 15 minutes late getting back. :toast:
Newegg's got some 05's too, just received an 0502 from them. Gotta run back to work, but some more phase results to look at later tonight.
:brick: :brick: :brick: :brick: :brick: ..............I just got mine from Newegg and it is a CAAZC 0502 CPMW as well :slapass: :brick: :bsod: .............OMG........and I'm at work so tonight is the soonest I can get to it................I KNEW I shouldn't have ordered from Newegg. :mad: :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by shimmishim
I'm gonna burn this thing in................if it doesn't perform as expected.............I'm gonna burn it UP!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad: :explode:
:banana::banana::banana::banana: hope i ddint get a Z from the egg too. I guess I'll sign the thingm hope no one nabs the thing in the 4 hours im not home :\
I just got mine from ZZF - CAA2C 0506BPMW
I ordered on Friday night.
Will test tonight.
Someone take off the spreader and we will all know for sure. What's the highest Prime stable OCs you are getting, aside from eva's crazy 2.8?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dissolved
How well did it overclock? I have a CAA2C 0450 that I can't use because my board won't support it :(Quote:
Originally Posted by THunDA
omg... im in the UK ans was scared that the ones over here would be differnt from the ones u guys are getting over there..... we allways get screwed.. hehe,, but no! not this time!!!
ADA3500DEP4AS
CAA2C 0504GPMW <<< why as some got CPMW or DPMW ? whats the first letter mean?
omg... now i just gotta wait for my new mobo and ram to get here....,,, o and a fan i had to import from america to go on my xp-90 :)
this my first A64 rig and with this chip its gonna be awesome!.... dont spose anyone else got a 0504? would be nice to see how well its done :)
THANKS!
I got a CAA2C 0504GPMW as well, best of luck to us both!Quote:
Originally Posted by Chivalry
hehe... not got round to buildin yours yet??... i got almost everything i need.... i hate waiting! lol
Just got it from the FedEx guy, 30 minutes ago, give me a break! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Chivalry
lol... should had bnenchies posted by now!!! CMON MAN I NEED TO KNOW!!! lol :)
lol. jk,,, 30 mins aint enough time to do anything.... ill give u 45........ :))
I just got mine. It's 0504GPMW. OC results to follow soon.
*crosses fingers* :banana: :banana:
I'm gonna need more than that, got a new motherboard in as well (to replace the VNF4 Ultra). So I'm in the process of reinstallation. Will post when I get around to it...Quote:
Originally Posted by Chivalry
On a side not, these chips might start looking like crap once the Venice comes out from the looks of that one guy's posts!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ackbar
i somehow doubt ill be able to pick up a 3800 venice anywhere near the price i paid for this chip :).... being my first a64 rig... ill be more than happy with 2.6 - 2.8 ..... and more to the point,,,,,, i dont have to wait untill the shops get any stock :)
not to mention the fact that anyone buying these chips is probably lucky enough to get a cpu tat performs more like a cpu 4x the price...,,, hardly looking like crap,,, at least not to me anyways :))
So IM confused here, What are the clawhammer versions as I got one enroute from Newegg and how well do they Overclock?
ordered one from newegg, arrived today. received a:
CAA2C 0505APMW
im off to test it now!
was it the supposed clawhammer core?
we're not sure but some people think it's clawhammers with bad 1MB caches that were cut down to 512k and sold as 3500s..
I think you got the best date available..Quote:
Originally Posted by Veedo
Let us know how it clocks veedo, can't wait to hear. If you don't mind, post max 'stable' oc on stock volts, and then max stable with w/e in ur cooling limits. Mine should be here tommarrow, but my motherboard is being rma'd, so I won't beable to play with it till next week sometime :( It's from zzf though, so I'm hopinh to get an 050x
CAA2C 0506 BPMW 'ZZF'
227x11 2497mhz 1.5v stock VID Stock cooler, basically the same temps as stock speed maybe 1c higher average. This is not the max, I'm still climbing but I thought this would a good speed/voltage to report.
This is under Prime95 small FFT's.
Could some of you fine gentlemen link me to some 'proper' CPU stress testing programs.
I use Prime95 and 3dmark2001SE for all of my testing. Running loops of both at the same time for a week.
What would be something good for testing clocks quick?
Thanks!
so are these the reported clawhammer cores? answer?
yesQuote:
Originally Posted by Gaspar
Quote:
Originally Posted by RacerX27
SuperPi 2m while running 1 or 2 loops of lobby high, if it passes both, then it's 'somewhat' stable, definatly not longterm but enough for me to call it stable.
CAA2C 0506 BPMW
From Dabs in the UK.....
Currently at 9X305 (2745) at 1.53v, air cooled ; 1:1 with GSkill LE....still testing/burning in with Prime95. 1.56v for 3d stable.
Great cpu's for the time being......:)
has anyone ordered from futurepowerpc?
since i'm in ca, zzf and newegg are not my options becasue of the 8.75% nazi tax :mad:
lol nazi tax. ::Prays for a 2 and not a Z:: I get it tmrw.
Can someone post max OC's on Stock HSF?
9.75% tax here from Newegg. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by snowice
ZZF is worth the tax, get one before they are gone. Its only $22-23 for you.
This CPU is worth the extra $ so far.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnj
Currently at 2541 with the stock HSF at stock volts. Still testing, still climbing.
Edit:
Looks like 2528 is my max stock volts stock HSF. Not too bad. Prime95 only small FFTs.
I agree. Did some Fine Tunning and able to drop the Vlotage quite a bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by kryptobs2000
Another Up-Date: :D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...0mhz3500PI.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...3500nc3ghz.jpg
2.5 :\ . I guess I'll have to get an XP120 in the budget or splurge in the sumemr and get some WC
This is stock volts max. Temp at stock was 52-54c. Temp at 2527ish is 53-54c, with the stock cooler. Its like 40c idle or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnj
I've not let it idle long since its been installed.
There is alot of voltage left to play with. I have an XP90 and XP120 here that will go on it.
I wanted to see what the stock performance was first, so I know how good it is before i put great air cooling on it.
Yah, I got 2.5 here with stock retail HSF and at 1.5 V (actually 1.55 V, but I'm undervolting about 0.05 with my new DFI nF4 Ultra-D).
BTW- I'm a newbie to the Ultra-D and when I overclock too much I get a BSOD. Prime doesn't even get a chance to fail, the computer just gives a BSOD. Is this normal? I never had this happen on my Winchester 3200+ with VNF4 Ultra. Also, anything I should particularly be aware of with overclocking on the DFI Ultra-D?
oh ok 2.5 on stock volts isnt so bad is it. Thanks
Glad to see there are 2 3000mhz screens along with at least being 1m stable. But most impressive, is only 1.6v, must be some headroom in there. Wonder what they'll do with 1.8v+ These are looking great :) Can't wait to get mine, hope it will do at least 3ghz.
CAA"Z"C 0502CPMW :mad:
It maxed out at 2.65 with the amount of volts i could give it (1.7). Sooo, I ordered one from zippy (instead of newegg..) and now I'm off to ebay it :rolleyes:
that sucks man :( first I've heard of anyone getting a caaZc, what crap :( I hope I don't get one, I'd be sooo dissapointed. We'll find out tomm, I need to stop posting so much in this thread lol, I'm just in anticipation :)
My local shop has them in stock... think I will pick up a couple :)
"Z" can be easily altered to look like a "2" ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by kryptobs2000
Maybe that'll make you feel happier about your CPU.
I'm running at 2500 @ 1.5V right now, and this appears (crosses fingers) to be Prime stable! This is on air on a Winchester HSF (the Clawhammer HSF appears to be slightly different, I'm not sure if it's better at all).
I'm running quite hot, between 57-60 Celsius on load. Can't wait for my XP-120 to come in tomorrow. Hopefully I'll be able to up the voltage to around 1.6+ and get some much better results! :up:
I'm sure u can get more out of this chip, 2500 @ 1.5v is not that impressive, my crappy 3500+ 0451 winnie can do 2600 @1.52v
I believe I can as well. But my temps are rather high, so I'm going to wait for my XP-120 then push for higher voltages.Quote:
Originally Posted by S0nic
BTW- I wouldn't call that a crappy Winchester. My 3200+ Winchester could only do ~2300 at 1.6V. :p:
Edit: Also keep in mind that these CPUs run at 1.5V by default. So your comparison of your Winchester at 1.5V is not a fair one since you're past your default while I'm still at mine.
I'm using an XP-120 btw..
I guess my chip wasn't too crappy but I wanted 2.7 and it seemed to hit a brick wall at ~2.65, anyways I don't own it anymore so it's history, I should have my superclaw friday or monday, I better not regret returning my winnie. The thing is I also got PC4000 VX to replace my plat rev 2 and I heard VX doesn't work very well with winnies and could damage the mem controller..
Oh that blows. I got my CAA2C today, but I'm too wrapped up in WoW ATM to start OCing. I'll start my burnin period tonight, then the hardcore begins tomorrow.Quote:
Originally Posted by gypsyboy38
You got 2.65 on a Winchester on air and you traded it in? That's being greedy! :D Most people get 2.7-2.75 max on air with a Winchester. Past that usually requires water or something else.Quote:
Originally Posted by S0nic
Take a look at: http://forums.anandtech.com/messagev...&enterthread=y
I believe that these numbers are inflated though since most people like to think that lying about overclocking gives them a bigger p3n1s
Can't complain about this one. Not the best, judging by the volts I need compared to some of the other phase change results, but not bad.
http://mysite.verizon.net/res6otqr/s...cdScreenie.jpg
It's a "Z": CAAZC 0502CPMW.
edit to add: and I whacked the volts off the top of my pic, lol. :rolleyes: 1.625V to get there.
edit again to add: f'in Verizon keeps resetting my webspace whenever I link pics in high traffic threads. Unadvertised b/w throttling, gotta love 'em. They'll be fired shortly, sorry for the dead link, just another 3GHz+ SPi 1M shot anyway. edited again to add: link fixed.....for now.
How can I see that poll?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ackbar
2.65 is about the max, didn't get it stable at a decent voltage (but didn't try too hard) however 2.7 was unachievable at all, if ppl are getting 2.7-2.75 from their 3000+ then I expect a bit more from my 3500+ which is almost double the price..
Trust me, I know what you mean. 3000+ seems to be the best for the Winchesters though, the SPAW 3000+ seemed to kick the crap out of most other steppings. I don't know how AMD speed bins, but overclocking is never guaranteed so if you get anything above stock you gained something. Aside from that, it's all luck of the draw. The only reason I got the 3200+ Winchester over the 3000+ was the multiplier, I know most people feel the same way. So maybe you basically just pay more for the multiplier.Quote:
Originally Posted by S0nic
Edit: You should just be able to click on "show poll" or something. I don't know since I've already responded to it.
I got my X850XTPE from them, shipping was fast, I am in NC they are in NY. Pretty uneventful process, other than they have a crappy website.Quote:
Originally Posted by snowice
thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by WheresWaldo
Mine sucks :(
CAA2C 0506BPMW
Will do 2500 (10x250) stock volts, however can't even prime 1M above 2600 regardless of volts (tried up to 1.85). I'm on water, btw.
Hopefully I just got a poor clocker.
i actually don't mind to pay extra if i can have it right away. zzf doesn't allow you to do local pick up. i am just 20 min drive away from them :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by RacerX27
i don't they will be gone anytime soon though....
still, this is so tempting... decision, decision, decision....ARGHHHHH
That does suck, maybe it's ur mobo or ram or something. All the other caa2c 0506's have been pretty good, even the caazc's have been better than that. Thats really wierd too. Somethings gotta be holding you back other than the processor, unless it's just supposed to be a 4000+ and it sucked and thats why they relabled them as 3500's but I doubt it, more likely, just trying to sell off all 130nm chips imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by redgoo
Update:
I just finished Super PI 1M at 2745 (305x9) @ 1.65v - with a memory divider though (memory at 250). I couldn't run past 260x10 1:1 with GSkill LE 2.5-3-3-7. I don't think its the memory as I should be able to run up to 275... is it the memory controller?
Phew... that's better! :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by redgoo
Memory could be defective... try it on another rig, if you can't get it to what it's rated for then RMA it.
Just swapped my CAA2C 0505 APMW to DFI NF4 SLI-D now
http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...sscpu_1_tn.jpg
55 is load with water? I'm getting 57-60 load on air.Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
You are all lucky. Mine sucks like you wouldn´t belive.
Its a CAA2C 0506BPMW 00569
Max prime stable 2750Mhz 1.6v and Max super pi is 2850Mhz 1.65v
This chip is walking all over my BigWater setup. At 2750Mhz 1.75v I get 68-70c load with a water temp of ~40c.
Think I need to hook up my ProCore / MXC6000 / Eheim instead. Im not even gonna bother mounting my CPU Cooler on this crappy thing.
Okay.. 2800-2850 for benching isnt too bad.. however what really IS bad, is that it wont run RAM higher than 245-250 if CPU is at 2400Mhz or more.
Also.. it refuses to run Trtw and Twtr 1 any higher than 240.
Thats just my luck. When i finally get a chip that OCs OK, the mem controller is FUBAR.
I have a feeling that those who think they have a CAAZC are maybe just misreading them and they are CAA2C - could someone who thinks they have a Z please post a screenshot. In terms of a stepping iteration the Z would have to have been earlier than the 2.
Mine looks to max out around 2800, but the memory controller won't go higher than 260.
I wish I had some VX to test as 300x9 with memory at 250 2-2-2 wouldn't be too bad (until Venice, lol).
My Neo2 has stability issues above 300htt as well it seems.
Quote:
Originally Posted by redgoo
Have you tried running higher than 260 with 2200-2300Mhz on CPU?
And are you running Trtw/Twtr 1 or 2? If 1, then you should try 2.
different temp sensors (not that accurate anyway)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ackbar
You have a DFI Ultra-D/SLI-DR, right? That's what I have, so I would imagine that we could compare the difference between our temps even if they're not absolutely accurate.Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
With Trtw/Twtr set to 2 and 2100mhz, all I can get to for SPi 1M is 262.Quote:
Originally Posted by Formann
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ackbar
I depends on what they mean by load. Super-pi / 3dmark load, or Prime SmallFFT. Big difference there.
Redgoo OK. I cant say i like this. Seems some of the cores were scrapped as 4000/FX due to problems with the mem controller, and not only poor OCing and bad cache.
Im thinking of getting another one, but if Venice hits the stores in a couple of weeks i might wait. Im getting tired of buying new chips all the time just to get a good one.
Did some math the other day. Found out how much I have spent on AMD CPUs since the Tbreds came. Should be enough to make me eligible to a Chirstmas card and a free FX55 :p:
I have the same code, week and this is what I got. :)
BTW no screenie but got it prime stable at 3G, 1.8 vcore
with water temp 4C.
Also, I can get it prime stable at 2.8G with 1.55 vcore at water temp 20C :)
You might wanna try some better water cooling.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Formann
Formann,
I'm thinking of getting another one too, lol. I'm probably going to wait until some more results are posted before I make that decision though ... maybe we're just unlucky?
Quote:
Originally Posted by formyfaith
Whats the highest HTT you can run 1:1?
295. My OCZ Rev.2 TCCD ram is pulling me back.
But I still think HTT 295 with 2.5-3-3-5 is nice enough for me though. :)
Havn't tried with lossened timings yet,
but I think I'll be able to take it up more :)
Quote:
Originally Posted by redgoo
Well that could explain it then again DFI boards even under load the sensor reports same load temp @2600-2800mhz at 1.6vQuote:
Originally Posted by Ackbar
the mem controller on my CAA2Cs are nice on DFI NF4 SLI-D 2x 256MB XMS3500C2v1.1 @275mhz 2-2-2-6 1T 7-14-2212 16x 7x 7ns 5ns at 3.7v
Impressive speed man .
I can´t wait to those get my hands in one of those chip´s
/me wants
:toast: :toast:
what cooling dfx?
Quote:
Originally Posted by OC Detective
No that's just silly. When FX-55's were released there were ZC and 2C's floating around too. I thought I wanted a ZC then, and got a 2C. Now, with these, I got a ZC...no question, ZC. In fact, if you search here, you can find pics of both ZC and 2C FX chips I bet, I know for a fact back then I saw a ZC photo here.
What screenie are you looking for? I posted a cpu-z screen, do you want CBBID, Sandra? Just let me know.
hmm i wouldnt recomend anyone to ruch out and buy one, if they wanna bench 2001se. 1mb cahce stomps 512k, 200mhz PR difference as well as 100-150mhz becasue 2001 loves cache. a 2.6ghz claw can get 30k with a x800xtpe
but they look better than most 939 chips, if u cant afford an FX
he wants a pic of the actual stepping, but I believe there are caazc's, I don't think peoples eyes are that bad lol
I thought I'd start by seeing how low I can go on vcore, passed 3dmark03, Supier PI 32m, and 7 hours of Prime95 Large FFT.
Now the OCing will start.
A picture of the cpu itself if there are ZC's then they must be earlier steppings than the 2C'sQuote:
Originally Posted by mikead_99
yup local retailer i got my CAA2Cs from received stock of 3500+ CAAZCs today as well
That could well be that they are earlier. I'm smacking myself atm, I almost took a pic before putting it under the evap, but based on the posts in this thread I didn't think it was worth doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by OC Detective
Now this is nice. .1 undervolt and at least partially stable.
dfx, what kind of cooling are you running?
What kind of clocks should i expect on the stock HSF and AS5?
My local shop has a CAA2C 0504MPMW in stock now... anyone have this week?
both of the ones i've gotten from newegg/chiefvalue were ZC's not 2C's...
i ordered one more from ZZF to see if i get a 2C
Got one coming from ZZF too... I'll post what I get when it arrives on Monday!
Mine will be here from ZZF Friday. :banana4:
How do you guys do it? How do you get 2.6ghz, stable at stock volts? I can't even get 2.5ghz stable at stock. I can' boot into windows at 2.6ghz under 1.55v. I'm pissed, I always get the CPUs that don't want to OC. I've got the HTT at 3x, AGP is at 67, spread spectrum disabled, speed step disabled, am I missing something or is my CPU just a poor OCer?