Damn and I was happy just to have one ;) Too bad it was DOA and is currently in Denmark being repaired.Quote:
Originally Posted by oublie
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Damn and I was happy just to have one ;) Too bad it was DOA and is currently in Denmark being repaired.Quote:
Originally Posted by oublie
guys i am in error or 1.5 chips overclock like 2.1???
is dothan quad pumped??? a 1.5 fsb400 is a 100x15 chip right?
a banias 1.5 might gat to 2.1, but a dothan 1.5 should (with luck) get a ghz oc (2.5ghz or so) on stock voltage (assuming the mobo can handle the fsb, which this adapter effectively eliminates as an issue :))Quote:
Originally Posted by Malachia
thx, now i only must choose...dothan or venice :D
now you're in my boat
venice
what justification is there for venice over dothan? fanboy stuff aside that is :D
Hey man look at the sig I run two Intel systems ;) Next ones going to be a AthlonFX for sure tho :)
As Anand points out the SSE and FP performance of Dothan isn't quite up to par with current desktop chips http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...px?i=2382&p=13 also I like the integrated mem controller on A64s and they have 64bit support, with 64bit XP right around the corner (and hopefully quick software/driver adoption) 64bit will be the way to go. Besides, even though Asus did a excellent job, this socket conversion thing is still pretty hockey adjusting the voltage and getting a powerful heatsink on it would be difficult. But I'd still like to see what a volt modded dothan can do under a cascade :slobber:
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Originally Posted by XeroHouR
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Originally Posted by Malachia
Venice, Turion, or DothanQuote:
Originally Posted by aoc007
its too early to tell, far too early to make a decision. we dont really know what venice or turion can do and 3 test samples arent enough to even estimate how well they overclock. we do know how well dothans oc on crappy motherboards, but we dont know how they will d on good ones, so its in the air for dothans too. patience, we will see in a few months :)
its been done, look under the "dothan overclocking thread" results are :slobber: worthy. i dunno about an fx rig, i'd wait to see what turion, venice, and dothan with a ct479 can do, all are much cheaperQuote:
Originally Posted by aoc007
The adapter at Legit Reviews have stopped working, and they have no clue why. Now we all know that the CPU and the mobo can handle overclocking, but we don't know anything about what the adapter can manage...
Well, lets hope its just a side effecy of today, considering date posted.
This adaptor needs a power line going to it and some voltage jumpers. They add that and I'm sold.
doesnt need voltage jumpers, volts adjustable upto 1.95v in bios, the adapter does have a power line, its the floppy power cable visible on the adapter.
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Originally Posted by qui
voltage selection doesnt work with the current bios release
GamePC has a review of the CT-479. Haven't read it yet though...
I can`t belive!!!! Another nice review but no real OC tests and benches. Every overclocket know that the most importent think is high FSB. WHY they dont do any tests with FSB ~200MHz??!! I dont know how about the multipler adiustment in BIOS but there is a soft to do it from WINDOWS.....
I think what we have to take into mind is that its knocking on the door of FX55 at the rubbishy OC (as far as FSB to us is concerned) they have it at. imagine how it will behave with the experts here. what we must be looking for in the reviews out is consitancy in performance, and so far the adapter has made it consistanly clear that its well worth the investment over the 855 boards.
Will this adapter work on lets say an Abit IC7-Max 3??
Mcklain
http://shop.crazycamel.com/product_i...oducts_id=3793
Asus adapter spotted in Belgium!! :banana: :woot:
I found the CT-479 at ATACOM.
Though I can't see if it's actually instock, maybe I'll call thier line.
holycrap, they want 14 bucks shipping from California to Washington! BS, They were showing 5 bucks ground shipping on Pricewatch, bait and switch whores. :fact:
Im finding in Europe. But now is n/a in shops :-(
Belgium is europeQuote:
Originally Posted by ex.treme
;)
i know it :)
Are you sure, that is now available in store?
But is a long way for me.
One thing is ware in the inetshop and second thing is in the store.
Than i hear: Now its n/a. You must wait 1 month. :(
Damn, i wait only for this adapter. :mad:
i want one..
any one sited one in the UK ?
I mailed those guys in the begining of the week but I didn't got a reply yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by ex.treme
:stick:
I called ATACOM this morning when the damn adapter was 50 bucks just to make sure it was available. The guy on the phone didn't understand the point of it, I explained it to him and said it was in stock and no less than 2 hours later they jacked up the price. :mad:
I'm just going to wait and get it for cheaper. :toast:
What?? Can't believe they'd do a thing like that! What punks!
$50 was such a good price!
CT-479 Installation Guide:
http://www.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/a...ck_install.pdf
:)
Think I will buy a Dothan+Adapter+P4P800 motherboard this summer if they get avaible in Sweden untill then.
I think too. Dothan 1,6 waiting on the desk.
Its better P4p800 or P4c800 ? In what things are better i 875 ?
XPC-Gear has the adapter too, for $49.99. I ordered it thursday night and had it shipped UPS ground for about $6.50. Alot better than what ATACOM wants for it plus+shipping. :slap:
I'd like to know this as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by ex.treme
This is too sweet. I knew there was a reason a kept my p4p800se mobo sitting around collecting dust.
Anyone know a good store to get a hold of the 533mhz fsb P-Ms?
Jay
anyone hear anything about other vendors releaseing bios's for them?
(cough: ABIT)
Maybe Oscar will have to mod a bios for the DFI 875P-T board and TicTac to some other boards ;)
canterwood!Quote:
Originally Posted by conrad.maranan
Do you really have to flash the BIOS of the ASUS P4C800-E DELUXE over to 1021 with another P4 CPU in order to get the Dothan and the socket adapter to work? Is there any other way to get it working straight out of the box?
Please pardon my Intel n00bness.
KustomPc's said that they should be stocking them soon. :banana:Quote:
Originally Posted by ibby
i'm not sure it will work out of the box, but i'm assuming that since they will sell the mobos+ adapters as a bundle (as well as seperate of course), they should already have the newest bios as the shipping biosQuote:
Originally Posted by conrad.maranan
guys you must remember to buy fsb533 cpus, fsb400 doesn't seem able to go over 180mhz :(
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Originally Posted by Cyprio
:woot: :D
wat is the difference between the p4c800dlx and the dlx-E? is it just WiFi?
and how much worse is the springdale?
I wouldn't think it would be to hard for a BIOS modder to mod a ABIT or DFI boards BIOS to support this thing. I sure as hell hope so. :toast:
Short question: What's the difference between BX80536GExxxxF and BX80536GExxxxFJ? Both got 533 FSB.
Finally an OC v. OC review!!!
http://www.x86-secret.com/popups/art...dow.php?id=123
They all have overclocked FSB, exept the FX... still not fair. :mad:
I might be mistaken but the -J suffix could mean support for -NX Bit. (or EDB, Execute Disable Bit, etc)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mats
you are not mistaken ;)
J suffix = XD-bit
yea right ,
i saw the J versions of dothan around the shops.. i wonder witch one OC better ..the J one or the other?
is true that on P4C800-E is not possible to change the volt core?
i really hope in some bios mods for other mobos like Dfi and Abit.. on my ic7-max 3 a dothan would be great!! anybody knows if tictac or bigtoe are working on some project?
Does anybody know, if the adapter works on the Asus P4P800?
For those in the states,....where are the 533fsb P-Ms for sale? I haven't found any place yet.
Jay
DrJay: It's not really that hard to find them...
12 stores linked here for the 770:
http://www.shopping.com/xFS?KW=penti...essors&FD=1719
Will you be able to mount a regular heatsink on this chip or will you have to use a special one
Thanks. Yeah, alot of people seem to have them.......guess I was just looking in the wrong places.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mats
Some questions:
1. I've seen some CM's showing up with a "J", I wonder if they're made with the newer C0 stepping (that is for PM 533 FSB only so far) because of this (but with 400 FSB of course)? If so, then they could be pretty good budget overclockers: newest stepping but still 400 FSB >> higher multipliers at much lower price (and half the cache disabled..). I haven't found any info at Intel, they dont list any C0 CM's yet, but on the other hand they don't list the 370J for instance...
If you don't know then I really hope that someone will post a CPUZ of a CM -J soon...
2. How much do you know about the adapter being stable over 220 FSB in 2D but very buggy in games over 185 FSB like some reviews say? I'm looking for a totally stable system.
I don't think the adaptor is the problem as the japanese guys are getting 260-270 1:1 2-2-2-5 :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mats
Maybe it's just cranking it up and hoping for better BIOS support :)
nice ! linky ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mathias-K
Thanks
Dan
I saw that, but is it stable in games? This is not the regular unstable system we're talking about. It can run stable for a lot of 2D stuff like Prime95 and such, but not games. It must be some kind of bug we usually don't see. I really hope it's BIOS related.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mathias-K
Have a look at the Xtreme Overclocking board.. TAM and Memesame are dancing around the clock in SuperPI .. 21seconds and the like :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ZL1
Well, no :) But if you're capable of running 270 i don't think 220+ stable should be a problem :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mats
Yeah, I know what you mean, 270 is not stable of course. As I said, this is some bug AFAIK that shows up because of the adapter and only in games. Your way of thinking is totally logic to "normal" systems, but this is something else, seems like the adapter is the reason for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mathias-K
does anybody know if asus will make that penitum m adapter comatiable with their 478 board that have pci express
I believe they're coming out with a bios for the p4gd1, but I'm not sure if they'll follow through with it.
Here's the board at ASUS
I found it!!! :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mats
All Celeron M 3x0J got the same stepping as 533 FSB Pentium M according to Intel, which could mean we're talking about THE budget overclocker!!! High multipliers, low price and the best overclocking stepping! 1 MB cache isn't that bad. The 370 in the list is probably a typo, should be 370J since it got both C0 stepping and XD bit like 360J and 350J.
Can't remember, is the Celeron M totally multiplier locked?
Someone told me the Dothan based Celeron M is not locked, but the Banias Celeron M is. I can confirm the Banias Celeron M as my 340 is locked at 15 (1.5Ghz)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mats
Sweet find Mats, I hope to see those 370J's soon.
I've found 360J and 370J here in Sweden already.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pongi
So you are from Sweden Mats or what? ;) That 360J looks cool, might buy one ;)
Yeah, I'm from Sweden. I'm quite tempted in buying one me too now because it all got so inexpensive, 360J + CT-479 + mobo for about 2100 SEK at datorhandel, if you dare buying from them...Quote:
Originally Posted by NiCKE^
Well the adapter was way much cheaper there then it is on Komplett. I might just buy that adapter and order a 1.6ghz dothan + a ASUS motherboard from komplett. Well the adapter is not coming from komplett. Way to expensive.
I have searched for the ct-479 adapter for a couple of weeks and finaly found one in the uk just not sure on the supplier though. not one i have used before.
cd-solutions asus ct-479
ALso dabs.com/uk with have the new aopen 915 socket 479 boards early may.
Hase anyone delt with cd-colutions in the uk before i order one.
New BIOS adds support for CT-479 to P4GPL-X. Now Dothan can be tested on PCIE board.
http://www.asus.com/support/download...elName=P4GPL-X
ASUS is selectively choosing which boards will recieve Dothan support, simply because they want to target boards that haven't been selling lately.
I've come up with a very simple method of getting the Dothan working with any board that has an Award bios. However, seeing as the adapter is not yet available in my area, I've been unable to fully verify this.
Despite that, if anyone is interested, I'd be happy to post a guide.
Tell us please! :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by teqguy
I'd prefer to verify that it works before I post something that could virtually ruin an otherwise perfect processor that someone just invested in.
While I would legally hold no liability, it still doesn't feel good to know you're responsible for the death of someone else's components.... especially if it's a Dothan. :(
If I could get someone with a cheap SIS655 based board, the CT-479 adapter, and a Dothan or Banias that would be willing to test it, that would be ideal.
Have we heard about the adpater being compatiable with other mobos manufatures.
is abit doing sumat to make support for it ?
ibby
No, as far as ASUS is concerned, they are limiting which boards will support it and which won't.
It makes sense, though, because ASUS doesn't want to aid the competition.
They want people to buy their specific motherboards to use a Dothan as a desktop processor.
On their website, they even make a comparison with the 855GM based desktop boards that are currently being offered by other manufacturers, such as Aopen.
Available in UK at last! :banana:
CPU City
YES :D
iam soooo happy
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Originally Posted by Cyprio
if only it works in my Shuttle :( :banana: :banana: :banana:
so which mobos currently supported by this adapter thingey
Asus p4p800 se, p4p800 vm, p4c800 e-deluxe and the P4GPL-X.
Motherboards which supports Dothan cpus.
With an ASUS CT-479 adaptor this will support:Code:Manufactor: Model Name: Chipset: DDR Type: AGP/PCI-E
DFI 855GME-MGF 855GME DDR1 AGP4X
Aopen i855GMEm-LFS 855GME DDR1 AGP4X
Aopen i915GMm-HFS 915GM DDR1/2 PCI-E 16x
Is that right?Code:Manufactor: Model Name: Chipset: DDR Type: AGP/PCI-E
ASUS P4P800 SE 865G DDR1 AGP8X
ASUS P4P800-VM 865PE DDR1 AGP8X
ASUS P4GPL-X 915P DDR1 PCI-E 16x
ASUS P4C800 E-Deluxe 875P DDR1 AGP8X
Those are the only motherboards that the support has been added to.
Like I said in a previous post, I think I've come up with a fairly easy way to make them work with any motherboard, but I'd like to test it before I post a guide.
Yeah I know thats why I asked if they were right ;) So what is the change then? Bios change I suppose.
It's P4C800 E-Deluxe. It's wrong in your "Code".
And also the Aopen 915 supports DDR1 aswell.
Yeah, just a simple patch to the bios.Quote:
Originally Posted by NiCKE^
Don't forget P4GD1, though these guys couldn't lock the PCI. But yeah, that's a beta BIOS.
best is p4GD1 ??
> ddr 2 , pcie , vcore , 915p...
also price is good
anyone know anything about another bios?
The Dothan would benefit more from low latency DDR, opposed to high frequency/bandwidth DDR2.Quote:
Originally Posted by lightbringer
So, you would be better off with a board based on the i865, i875, or SIS655 chipsets.
P4GD1 uses standard DDR memory:
"- Dual channel memory architecture
- 4 x 184-pin DIMM sockets support max. 4GB DDR 400/333 non-ECC memory"
So does P4GPL-X, but it only got two memory slots. Price difference here in Sweden is $1, so the choice is easy.
NiCKE^
p4p800 e-deluxe use 865 chipset
It's not like it matters....
Anyone know where to get this 1009.001 beta bios for p4p800se?
The newest that's available on their website is the 1008. They removed it from their regional news, but kept it on the global and in the download section:
http://www.asus.com/support/download...20SE&Type=BIOS
Just a word of warning: This BIOS removes support for most of the Northwood series and some of the Prescott series. It only supports a select number of Prescotts, and all of the Dothan and Banias Pentium M's. This means that if something were to go wrong with the adapter, you would need to buy a specific Prescott to repair it.
If you need a bios that supports a specific Northwood or Prescott, in addition to the Dothan and Banias, I can check if it's included. If it isn't, I'll add support for it.
Many thanks to you teqguy! :woot:
...okay, I have to admit, my enthusiasm was dampemed somewhat when I realized the link was not to the 1009 bios but to the 1008 that I'm already using and is readily available :rolleyes: .
Still, thanks for your time and reply teqguy. :toast:
BTW: 1008 bios works fine with 2.4c Northwood.
Jay
Prepare to be enthused:
www.myfilestash.com/userfiles/teqguy/1009se.zip
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Originally Posted by teqguy
for what mobo??? support what??? tell us about this one plz :D
P4p800-se