normally, no ... according to the_mad, only CPU Z 1.27 is detecting this multiplier changingQuote:
Originally Posted by STEvil
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normally, no ... according to the_mad, only CPU Z 1.27 is detecting this multiplier changingQuote:
Originally Posted by STEvil
Franck just uploaded a new version of CPU-Z 1.27 that solve this issue. This bug is really easy to understand :Quote:
Originally Posted by FUGGER
When starting, your CPU is in IDLE mode (C1E => 14x), so CPU-Z compute frequency for CPU #1. Then CPU-Z compute frequency for CPU #2. At this time, your CPU is *NOT* in idle C1E mode because of the computation of CPU #1 he just did. So, it reports an higher, non-idle frequency. I have a F41 Prescot and I run some tests. You can find these attached and you will see about CPU-Z V1.26 / Crystal CPUID and other tool that does not report the correct speed in idle with PRescott F41.
By the way, all you need to do is to disable C1E (if this doesn't work on the DFI, that's a BIOS Bug because it works on Asus P5AD2-E), or add a little CPU load when you output the CPU-Z validation file, and all the world will be able to saw your awesome overclocking :)
xsecret2, thanks for the clarification...and i hope we see you dropping by here more often =).....if i remember correctly, it's at x86 where i've seen very early OC findings of Pentium M =)....
Haha yes :D We use to leak some not-yet-announced CPUs like P4 630 some weeks ago (Smithfield coming soon) and we helped DFI a bit for the 855GME-MGF :)
hehehe, yeah, DFI's mobo is an instant hit =)....i'd love to see those Smithfield reviews...and if only better translators would be available, your articles will even be more entertaining...i can't believe the word "caramel" will always be in your article when translated ;)....i know it's not supposed to be caramel, but then again, either i try so hard to read the translated page or completely skip reading it since i don't understand a single word of it hehehe....
Yo everyone!! Im new here!
:toast: Congrats fugger :toast:
Let me get this right, opening CPUZ is not enough of a load to bring CPU #1 to correct speed but clicking on tab #2 is?
Firing up and running test for you then going on web taking screen shot of CPU incorrect then uploading to your site was not enough load to get out of C1E state but clicking on cpu #2 is?
Every time I opened 1.27 before and after tests it was always incorrect.
Methinks a) C1E is not working on my board or b) another bios rev needs to be done as my bios is from original 925X.
FMB15 enable works correctly but that is different and made to force retail CPU to lowest multiple for 266FSB default operation.
I will have it open for super pi and get a screen shot.
So far the best I can prove is 1.27 was reporting the wrong speed. You guys are top notch and I am sure we can figure this out.
me <3 intel :slobber:
Fugger - I think what he meant to say is CPU-Z calculates the frequency of the CPU quick enough that the CPU isnt up to speed until it starts calculating the "second" CPU's frequency.
haha, I saw this in the news box over at OCF and I said to myself, "Only someone from XtremeSystems could do that." and sure enough; the link too me here. :D kick ass work man!
That is correct : Opening the first version of CPUZ 1.27 is not enough of a load to bring CPU #1 to correct speed but clicking on tab #2 is, because of the computation just done of CPU #1 speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by FUGGER
BTW, please download again CPU-Z 1.27 here : http://www.cpuid.org/download/cpu-z-127.zip
This new 1.27 version solve this bug and both logical CPU will report the same, correct speed.
you crazy mother fugger, lol had to say that, good job man wish i could hit half that lol
Seems to be working as intended now.
rebooting up upload monster result.
Result uploaded. bring on the clockgen
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=2892
Whoa! I like what I see... keep it up bro!!! :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by FUGGER
Good job so far, but u have to get it up to at least 6.5ghz in windows to hold the WR!
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Originally Posted by moddolicous
I think he knows that.. he set the record didnt he? :p:
Come on. Beat the WR!!
Franck says I should be able to test tomorrow. I had horrid contact when popped up that 5.8Ghz. I didnt care about max for that one, just wanted a high speed SS to post.
I wish it shown the voltage. I was at 1.53v @ 5.8Ghz
That is incredible! How high have you ever run that chip?Quote:
Originally Posted by FUGGER
in windows pi @ 5.9Ghz 328FSB 1:1 3-2-2-8
Actually... I meant what is the highest vcore you have run that chip? However that is very impressive, especially being able to run the ram that tight at that speed.
Amazing...Amazing...Amazing...
Whoa, awesome. great job. what kind of cooling system do you use?
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LOL. Sry. He uses a coupla cascades. It is SUPER COLD, anywhere below -50C
Woah very nice clocks there man! :toast:
What temps do you get at 1.9Vcore?
Alec
zA.gosu, don't call someone a newbie please. Seems a tad over the top.
The cascades hit (correct me if i'm wrong) around -100.
Some insane clocks there :banana: :banana: :banana:
I have been up to 1.95v on the cpu
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Welcome to XtremeSystems
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Originally Posted by FUGGER
Amazing !!
Haha, good point, but how is stuff like this (and most of what goes on at XS) a real world example??? :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by NoGodForme
Yes, many pros around here show what some of this stuff can really do, but most "average joe overclockers" are never gonna be able to hit the same levels due to cooling or modding skills and lack thereof.
I agree that it would be nice to see a review site go a bit farther with overclocking sections in their reviews...even our beloved [H] barely touches most mobos capabilities, and then will usually have some stupid comment about how they think it didnt OC any higher, when some of us know straight out.
Oh well, that's my ramble for today...truth and fact of the matter is though, is that most review sites show more real world overclocking results then you'll find at XS. Things are taken farther here, but the extents/lengths that are gone to for these results are less realistic (oftentimes) then what the reviewers are showing us.
Nice work there Fugger.
Think you can pull CPU-Z shot at 7G?
Good luck :toast:
Still a long way to go :DQuote:
Memtesting well into 6.6Ghz
here's a Laptop w/ 2GB of RAM w/ a64 @26GHz:
http://www.akiba-pc.com/26g_memtest.jpg
(notice the bandwidth :D)
Well as my 1st "Newbie" post
Let me 1st congratulate FUGGER on an insane OC! [H] is indeed the reason I made my way here to read about this 7.2 monster!
2nd let me say that after reading a few threads and having thought about attempting a watercooling setup for a bit now. I can honestly say that Ive found a place that is going to help me not only achieve this but is going to show me how to get the most from it as well. My goal is not to achieve massive OCs although OCing it is also what its about. I am more interested in achieving a quieter system.
So once again FUGGER congrats on an awesome OC!
And thanks to all for a way cool Forum!
:lol: macci, nice laptop there... maybe that's a prototype of the new venice core in the mobile field ;)
Should Intel be able to cope with that?? :D
I want to see review sites OC the MB with a watercooling setup so people will know if there are any roadblocks. For example, the H gave the Asus A8N a must have award, yet many are stuck at 245mz. I don't expect them to use vapo or anything extreme, but water would be nice to see if the board can go above 250mz with the chip at the default multiplier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cornelious0_0
:D Joke of the year - very nice but I miss negative timings here....... :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by macci
:toast:
Could you try with V1.51 ?
I'm the developer of Memtest86+ too ;)
http://www.akiba-pc.com/OCZ-4200EB/Memtest.jpg
Like the bandwidth?
;)
:D
Macci I think I can. Getting back to 6Ghz consistantly, even with bad contact is not a problem.
Monsoon, Welcome to XtremeSystems.
For the record, I memtest the hell out of the system to find the best bandwidth and ensure stability of memory before I fire up the hard drive. Memtest is one of the best apps available to us.
lol thats ironic, because from what i understand hes sub -100.....newbie...lol couldnt help it ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by zA.Gosu
omg thats bs. my crappy 3.4 socket 478 wont boot windows at 4.25GHz, at 1.53 Volts....i wish i had a sweet chip like that.go fugger!Quote:
Originally Posted by FUGGER
heh you want to laugh about overclocking in reviews, pick up an edition of PC Modder. while they do do overclocking in reviews they do it stupidly. i know damn well that an the asus or abit or whatever board theyre testing was NOT maxed out at a fsb of like 204 or 209, they are obviously overlooking something. also, ive read ones with high end prescott 775 chips, OCed to 4ghz+ on the stock heatsink, and wonder how the benchmark scores got lower. gee, it couldnt be the fact that its overheating and causing throttiling could it????Quote:
Originally Posted by Cornelious0_0
So these new chipset's lock the PCI-ex bus no prob? What about PCI-ex voltage, and if so has it helped anyone? Fugger would you take this board over the Asus Premium?
"Fugger would you take this board over the Asus Premium?" yes.
Haha, good stuff. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by mr_knowitall15
Friends don't let friends overclock via PC Modder.
Exactly. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by drcrawn
Just Crazy :slobber: :slobber:
Real nice.
keep it Up!
macci whats the fsb multiplier
>< 2000 X 13?
Don't let Opp see this..Quote:
Originally Posted by FUGGER
:lol:
this new s775 3.8ghz would work with the 875 chipset?
holy :banana::banana::banana::banana:
i mean
holy fug
Goat, yes. DFI makes an 875 board to support LGA775. IT has DDR and AGP
but i mean it can work with my dfi 875p-t?however congrats fugger:D
so when will we expect to see a cpu-z screen @ 7ghz ?
Nice work! :toast:
Hey Fugger,
Can you post a pic of the new dfi board, and the full specs if you have them, whats different apart from 925xe from the current 925x t2 board? Only if DFI wont chop your head off obviously. BTW fantastic results
Gloat, yes
Noob, hopefully Saturday or Sunday.
Oublie, the first post in this thread has pictures of both boards.
fugger you have tried your 570j on the dfi 875p-t?
570J works on DFI 875P-T, but you'll need a BIOS update.
Get some sleep first Fugger ;)
hi guys im new here and just wanted to congratulate fugger with his crazy overclocks see you around guys :)
I'm looking forward to it too. Current prescott apparently has its own mind, not necessarily follow what BIOS tells it to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by the_n00b<:o)
How much power does this CPU take @ 7ghz? It might be hard if the mobo cant supply the volts.
probably 200+ watts and alot of voltsQuote:
Originally Posted by moddolicous
Shocking... Isn't It? :banana: :banana:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gסּסּn
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=4825
fugger m8, youve been done badly :stick:
Not a problem. nice speed on that EE for sure.
That is one insane FSB.
holy crap!!!! 6.2ghz with 2mb of cache :slobber: ...and 1:1 on the ram :eek: id like to see that benched...but fugger has that creamed, what are you talking about, he has screenshots of 6.3ish, and has POSTed at 7 :toast: hows that going by the way?
what this 570j does with stock air cooling?i mean the max mhz.plz fugger let me knooow :banana4:
Don't expect to see DFI 925XE-T2V in stores very soon. Straight from the horse's mouth:
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As far as 925XE, we have no plan to phase in this model yet, as demand for such platform is very small.
screenshot means nothing to me anymore, lets see it benching :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Voodoo|Minion
Against what? A Frozen FX-55(Or an FX-57 when available) @ near 3.5GHz or faster?Quote:
Originally Posted by Crow
Seems fair to Me...... :banana: :banana:
Fugger, I'm a complete n00b when it comes to overclocking, but reading your exploit has really caught my attention, and if I ever get a newer system someday when I have the money, I'd like to overclock it.
I had some questions that maybe you or other posters would be willing to chime in on about this.
Since I'm a n00b (go easy on me guys) your able to OC the CPU to 7.2 ghz. And you mention as well as others mention about keeping the OS stable, and that the WR is at 6.5 ghz right now.
With your system OC'd now, what's the point where you can bring up the OS and keep it stable, run programs on XP, etc.? IS it faster than the WR right now to where you can keep it stable? I guess because I'm new to all of this, I have a lot of questions.
I mean I understand that the 7.2 ghz is just with a stable bios, but it doesn't mean a stable OS.
Also with the advent of newer CPU's out there, do you see yourself going faster that the 7.2 ghz? I mean Intel announced the new 3.8 ghz CPU EE chip out, could you break the 7.2 ghz you got now, or would you have to start from scratch and experiment with the timings all over again?
It's just a lot to take in.
Oh, and to be repetative with everyone else, awesome work fugger. Simply awesome and inspiring.
with that cpu, 24/7 use speeds is probably not known.. he's using a system to cool it which would be excessivly expensive to run 24/7, not worul it probablt be capable of running that long. I believe that IS a 3.8EE ES isnt it?Quote:
Originally Posted by A Guy Named Joe
The amazing thing with the 7.2ghz is that it POSTS. I can post 3ghz on my axp. not stbale, but posts! It means theres HOPE! ;) :toast:
man you are just insane i just sign up to drop you a few lines i think you deserve the admiration of a lot of ppl in the OC community your preserverance is just amazing i hope you can run that beast stable at that amazing speed i hope i could do something like that with my pc athlon 64 doesnt oc very well and less if you have stock cooling as i have :banana: i just wanna see some pics of your rig and that cooling system.
nice work
played fugger! no updates or anything on it though ?
Which horse are you refering to?Quote:
Don't expect to see DFI 925XE-T2V in stores very soon. Straight from the horse's mouth:
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As far as 925XE, we have no plan to phase in this model yet, as demand for such platform is very small.
i imagine DFI=da horse.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigStan
That was a great article over on Anand with pics of you guys.
http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i=2373
Just like they said, even though most of us will never do these things, it's still fun to read about.
the pci-e don't give problems with overclockin?this new chipset mobo can reach easly 350 of fsb?it have yet the stupid overclock lock? :confused:
i can't find this mobo,i'm only able to find a dfi with the 925X chipset...the 925xe is very much better than the 925x?or they are similiar?
Read the entire thread. DFI has said that they probably wont put this board out because there wouldnt be a demand for it. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by gloatlizard
WHAT! I must have missed that post. Very upset. If i remember right FUGGER said that the only idffernce is that the XE is approved to run the 233 FSB where teh X is only approved to run 200. Not to say the X can't, just isn't tested.
I would be happy to clear that up.
DFI has already confirmed shipments of more samples inbound. I will have them confirm parts in production.
thanks FUGGER, I would think taht the board that holds the world record would atleast me it to production. I guess all the hype now is dual core. Any ideas floating around of a FUGGER edition?
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Originally Posted by jkabaseball
Ha Ya!! DFI Fugger Edition with mounts for an evaporator, condensation proofed, insulated, and no mods needed because the BIOS is 100% unlocked and the board is solid as a rock, 6 Phase Power delivery for CPU, 4 guage wiring, SLI for ATI... I'd buy it for sheez
Now that would be nice!!
i want to see this OC stable :s come on fugger release some benchs or any news
indeed, whats the go with this chip
So its sounding more like this board will see the light of day? That would be cool indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by FUGGER
hey fugger is there really any difference between the x and the xe revisions.what i mean is, are there superior components and added tweeks in the xe?? or is it just the same and only guarenteed to run 1066 fsb???? thnx flapper
Pretty good ;)
The x seems to be limited to 299 FSB, the 4:5 ratio works fine.
Hard to say with PLL app how far the XE will go.
Pats, cute avatar.
does a 925X flashed with a 925XE bios could go above 300 fsb ?
I havent tried.
could you try ? I think it could interest many people here :)
fugger did you ever get into windows with 7.2ghz?
I was wondering the same thing, last post was about a month ago saying prolly sat or sunday? did it work? blow up? many innocents killed by the shrapnel?
Anyone notice that FUGGER hasn`t posted much since he got that "AMD winnie"! :stick:
Hope he hasn`t drifted to the dark side.....lol :eek:
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Originally Posted by Rocket
Then as a Representative from the Dark Side, May the Siths Revenge Be a great movie. :stick: :D
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Originally Posted by Rocket
If he did, I dont blame him :D . Intel needs to quite sucking Dell's phat CXXK and make something worth getting. I can tell ya that Dual core aint gonna be what it's hyped up to be, unless software starts to utilize multiple CPU's in a way that isn't stupid.
AMD seams to care about the Enthusiasts the most, Intel seams to care about the PC manufacturers.... If Intel wants to rely on volume selling to OEMs in order to keep market share, well I guess going to the dark side seams like a pretty bright Idea for enthusiasts..... Unfortunately :rolleyes: