And what card do you have? Cause that would be some valuable info...Quote:
Originally Posted by te_le_com
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And what card do you have? Cause that would be some valuable info...Quote:
Originally Posted by te_le_com
I have an engineering sample :banana:
I can't overclock even a MHz as well as underclock, tried coolbit and RivaTuner won't work. It only works if I DisableInternalClockTest in RivaTuner :rolleyes:
Oh so it is a engineeing sample of NVIDIA?Quote:
Originally Posted by te_le_com
Generally what is programmed into NiBiTor is peoples experiences. Where for example with a 6800GT, the 1.6v NiBiTor option only came about because some cards set for 1.5v were measured as actually having around 1.54-1.56 on the GPU. So it was rounded up ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nubius
And yes you are right, it appears many cards, including some manufacturers GT's, can't cope with anything above 1.4v.
Thats exactly the same as happens with my 6800LE. Which is why I posted that you should disable the Internal Clock Test. It is quite "normal" with the newer generation cards.Quote:
Originally Posted by te_le_com
I saved my bios file with savebios. I changed the 3D volts from 1.3 to 1.4 and renamed with nibitor. Can I flash the newly named file with savebios? It is the same bios as original except voltage increase. I don't need any switches do I? Just pic the "flash single pci-e/agp card" option, yes? thanks.
I have never used SAVEBIOS for flashing bioses. And athough SAVEBIOS can save bios images, there are generally better tools to use.Quote:
Originally Posted by coop
Bios flashing functions for a 6xxxx series card are normally done as follows,
Flash the bios in DOS using nvflash.exe v5.13
nvflash -r (removes any protection)
nvflash -b ORIGBIOS.ROM (saves original bios)
nvflash -4 -5 -6 BIOSNAME.ROM (flash new bios file)
However because of DOS filename restrictions, "ORIGBIOS.ROM" and "BIOSNAME.ROM" must have max of 8 char's in first part of filename and max of 3 char's in extender part, otherwise DOS will not recognise the command.
And note, the -4 -5 -6 command switches will force a flash regardless of any ID mismatches.
But obviously always make sure you ONLY flash a AGP type card with a supporting AGP bios, and a PCI-E type card with a supporting PCI-E bios !!!!!
Finally bought a multimeter. On my Leadtek 6600 GT AGP with the modded AND with the original bios multi shows 2D voltage: 1.34v 3D: 1.57v. So there isn`t (yet) a way to have (in the bios) more then 1.4v on the GPU.
Hi Nubius,Quote:
Originally Posted by Nubius
Just checked the bios you linked, and see that you only changed the Performance Level Indicator Value (PLIV) for 3D mode to "96". And although a PLIV of "96" will normally be interpreted by the driver as wanting 1.5v; setting a value that is not actually used in the gpu volts lookup table can sometimes cause the driver to do strange things.
However, fortunately in this case, the "96" value is higher than anything stored in the gpu volts lookup table, so believe only thing that will happen is the driver will just force gpu volts at max available from the card.
:)
Not sure I understand your statement ?Quote:
Originally Posted by mare87
If you are actually measuring 1.57v on the GPU, why would you think that the bios can't set more than 1.4v ?
Well if it was in the volt table I wouldn't have had to manually set it in the hex, but this is what leads me to believe that there's possibly a hardware limit on those cards that will completely prevent it from even running 1.5v through the BIOS
The guy who asked for it to be changed, already tried that BIOS, but nothing happened, no temp raise, no better OC'ing, so I guess it's safe to assume it didn't work
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nubius
The max indicator value in the gpu volts lookup table of that bios is "8C". And assuming your bios mod just changed the 3D mode PLIV from "8C" to "96", then in effect it worked. But as I said, it only worked because the driver simply forced the gpu to max volts. Which in this case just happened to be the same gpu volts as would have occurred with a PLIV of "8C" !
After all, is it really effective and anyone got improvement for Ocing from 1.3 -> 1,4v bios mod ? Let's group the results :)
I think alot of people have had ocing increases. Why else would everyone do it?
can anyone tell me if the AMBIENT temperature display in 6600gt cards can be enabled via bios or is it a driver issue?
i've done the temp mod and uploaded the new bios to my chaintech 6600gt, but it only show core temp.
help pls! :(
Thats all they show is core temp what else do you want???Quote:
Originally Posted by DyJohnnY
Hey moddalicious could u mod my bios I alraedy tried the one from http://mvktech.net/ site rev 2 for my bfg tech 6600gt oc and it was not stable was slow when opening menus for card settings. Stock speeds are 525/1050 I tried opening the bios with nbitor and noticed that under the vender box it reads chaintech but my card is a bfg, anyhow could u mod my bios for more voltage 1.5 would be nice thanx. :woot:
Hi modders :rolleyes:
i'm new on this forum, becouse recently buyed a fake pny 6600 128Mb agp (don't see 64 Bit memory in specs) :mad:
After reading a lot of thread ,trying to mod & flash the bios cards & 15 min of panic (vrong bios in cards) i recovered and installed the original bios bios!!
Now i can ask u to mod my bios? voltage ,remove block if present enable the termal sensor & do all to perform better this card if possible !!
there my info taken from rivatuner (no softmod possible , but i think is normal on my card) :
Graphics core : NV43 revision A2 (8x1,3vp)
Hardwired ID : 0141 (ROM strapped to 0140)
Memory bus : 64-bit
Memory type : DDR (RAM configuration 06)
Memory amount: 131072KB
Core clock : 497.250MHz
Memory clock : 261.000MHz (522.000MHz effective)
now is whit defoult cooler,stable but i think to change !!
i attach my bios version 5.43.02.46.52
ps : original clock is cpu/mem 300/500 mhz
Tnx
Here is my bios could someone mod it so I could have more voltage. Thank you!
You might want to get it again, it has only 60928 bytes instead of 64000 or 64512. All utilities say it's corrupt.
Indeed that BIOS is corrupt, did you use nvFlash for making the backup?
What about undervolting and underclocking ?
Is it safe to set very low clocks and voltages for 2D mode and have stock clocks back in 3D mode ?
I mean running like 100/100 for 2D and then 500/500 for 3D.
I'd really like to cool down my 6600GT and turn fan speed to silent levels.
Not to sure your talking to me but I used savebios and just created a zip and it compressed to that size here is a second try..Quote:
Originally Posted by Micutzu
Just use nvflash to get the BIOS ... boot in DOS mode and run:
nvflash --save bios.rom
The file you have attached is too small and is not a complete BIOS file.
But leaving that aside, eVGA's already come with 1.4V for the core, so there's nothing more it can be done, except for a hardware mod of course.
Oh ok thank you for your help! I was just trying to get a little more out of this card. But I guess thats it. Thanx!Quote:
Originally Posted by Micutzu
Hardware mods here btw.
Can anyone help me ?
hey if you want to get more voltage out of your card that nibitor doesent let you do use this tool then save it and flash here is the tool hope this helps :toast:
what about my bios :(
what bios you got post it here if it is a nvidia card
my bios is on page 9 liek at the middle look
well here i uped the voltage for ya to 1.5 like you wanted see if you like it.the one that says modded bios i did with nvidia bios editor,and the one that says modded bios 2 i did with nibitor
thx man apreciate it :DDDDDD :woot:
no problem at all
So wait, the program works? All the way up to 1.7?
yeah it does thats what i been trying to sayyyy lol
Could someone mod my 6600GT bios? :)
I have a point of view 128 MB 6600GT (PCI-e). A copy of my bios is attached below. I'd like 1.5 volts on the VGPU (is it possible to raise it further?)
One question: Ive never flashed a video bios before, but read how to do it. I've attached a copy as from savebios, but this saves it as a .BIN file. When I flash it, shouldnt it be a .ROM file :confused:
sorry for my n00bishness :p:
thanks :)
A graphics card BIOS can be or .bin or .rom extension. SO that is not the problem. The problem is that your BIOS is corrupt! Never use SAVEBIOS! It is only okay for older cards like GeForce 4 Series. You should use nvFlash to make a correct BIOS. Make a bootable DOS floppy put nvFlash v5.13 on it and then start your PC from that floppy and execute:Quote:
Originally Posted by K.I.T.T.
"nvflash -b backup.rom"
Then you zip up backup.rom and attach it here, and that will be a valid BIOS that can modded... ;)
Thanks mate :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mavke
Once again my n00bishness prevails :(
*hunts for a floppy....*
Well, I managed to edit my bios using thr nvidia bios modifier and reflashed it. i set it at 1.5V but this doesnt seem to improve overclockability. With stock voltages, I could push it to 565/1197 MHz (VGPU/GDDR3). After modding the bios, the core only goes upto about 590 MHz, but i have to reduce the frequency of the ram to 1.18 GHz. Even at those settings, i get artefacts wheras with stock voltages and 565/1197 MHz everything runs OK :confused:
Did anyone actually get higher clocks after modding their BIOSes? And, there is an option to set it to 1.7V, but i didnt as i cant verify that this would work or if it would render my card unusable. Has anyone actually done this?
Thanks :)
Mmm, well I wouldn't using that modifier... It is not always correct at modding voltages and some people have had issue with their cards after flashing with a modded BIOS from that tool.Quote:
Originally Posted by K.I.T.T.
Can you attach your good BIOS here? Then I can have a look...
Thanks a lot :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mavke
One thing that mat be worth mentioning is that it wouldnt flash using
"nvflah -p -u -f hack1.rom"
only worked with
"nvflash hack1.rom"
Using the first command, it came up with all the things like an explaination of the different tags, etc :confused:
Anyway, my BIOSes are attached below. Backup.rom is the original and hack1.rom is the one i edited.
Currently, im running on Hack1.rom. I experience no problems at the previous settings (565/1197 MHz). Should i keep this bios for the time being or re-flash to the original?
Thanks :)
Well you are using nvFlash v5.xx so those commands options have changed!
"nvflash -5 -6 newbios.rom" (Normal Flash)
"nvflash -4 -5 -6 newbios.rom" (Forced Flash)
And euh use NiBiTor to make any changes!
nibitor wont allow me to raise the voltages over 1.4V :confused:
however, the one that i flashed previously reports 1.5V in nibitor. Would using the nvidia bios modifier and changing it to 1.6V help?
Yeps indeed that is because the voltage table of NVIDIA doesn't have a 1.5v setting and that is why if you use a multimeter you will still get around 1.4v on the GPU...
So i wonder why the voltage was set to 1.4 initially :rolleyes:
Ah well, what do you think of the speeds though? 565/1197 MHz? Not too shabby are they? :(
Maybe its time to get the old 4B pencil out..... ;)
Hallo especially moddolicous,
i have already save my BIOS and load up to MVKTech for a while, but nobody could help me, cause my card is very special. It is the "MEDION 6610XL": A special-version of the GeFORCE 6600 GT from MSI for a big German company like DELL. The card have a NV43 and 128 MIB GDDR3 from INFINEON on it. She runs very great from 400 MHz GPU & 400 MHz VRAM (DDR800) up to 561 MHz GPU & 513 MHz VRAM (DDR1030). But now she do not want more to clock higher. I have already buy a ZALMAN VF700-Cu and add some of this new High-End from Germany http://coollaboratory.com - but it did not help, the Card goes cooler down to 35 °C, but i hang still at the same clock, with artefacts with higher clocks.
Please moddolicous, could you take a look on my BIOS and higher the Voltage to the maximum (I think 1,4 Volt or 1,5 Volt is possible) and higher the Boot-Clock from [400/400] to [555/500] for all situations (2D, low power, 3D) in your Editor? I have save it with "savebios.exe": http://www.ttecx.de/VIDBIOS.BIN
Thank you very much in forward,
with greetings from Germany.
Tobias.
The BIOS saved with savebios.exe is corrupt as savebios.exe is not designed for saving the new BIOS (newer then the GeForce 4 Series). So pleas use nvFlash and then at least we can take a look... I didn't see any of this on MVKTech... (hmm might have missed that).Quote:
Originally Posted by TtecX
You have forget Mavke, check it: http://www.mvktech.net/index.php?opt...&filecatid=862
And now the Thread: http://www.mvktech.net/component/opt.../limitstart,0/
And now? Is there anybody who will there push my NV43 to the Limit? My Prescott is already runnin at 4,266 GHz - the GPU should follow. :D
I'll try and take a look. Is it AGP or PCI-E?? And also, did u say the stock clocks were 400/400? And lastly, if u can, try to back up the bios with nvflash. Savebios usually messes up with newer cards like mavke said.
Hey moddolicous,
The BIOS : MSI 6610XL PCIe 128MB - Rev 01
So it a PCI-E BIOS. You can download it from MVKTech. ;)
Stock speeds are indeed 400/400 (800DDR) MHz.
Just download the BIOS from MVKTech (my site, that one is just fine).
Regards,
Mavke
Thanks mavke.
Yes, it is PCI-Express 100 %. Pleas follow the Thread linked by me on the bottom of Page 10 there.
Thank you!
:(6610 XL a 6600GT clocked @400/400Mhz ? My MSI 6600GT is clocked at default @500Mhz/DDR1000 and it overclocks to 605Mhz/DDR1250 with default cooler and no mods.Quote:
Originally Posted by TtecX
MEDIONs Marketing want to say in Winter 2004 "We seel a PC with GeFORCE 6 powered by 128 MB". So they take a NV43 wit 8 Pixel-Pipelines, put some GDDR3 on the PCB and clocked the combination down to 400 MHz / 400 MHz to have a cool device (This PC has no Case-Fans). Cause there should be a Multimedia-PC there put some sh.it on it, like a SCART-Input-Field and so on...
I think that 561 MHz & 515 MHz (DDR1030, please say not 1,03 GHz or like that - it is physically not clocked with this rate) is very good for a piece of sh.it from a OEM-Seller.
And yes - this device was build by MSI. On the PCB is printed by MEDION, but the BIOS shows the true manfacturer: MSI.
My old Creative GeForce2 GTS was build by MSI and you could recognized MSI printing on the PCB, but the bios were made by creative. Anyway, like you said, nice clock for an OEM :p:
It is build by MSI, the whole box comes from MSI (for example the Motherboard, but a "Special-Version" too - i have already exchange it with a EPoX 5EGA+ for more Overclocking-Options). Now i would like to stay with this iteam called "6610XL", but a little more overclocked. I have already pray to god, that somebody can help me with my "Special".
http://www.ttecx.de/hardwarereports/...610xl_open.jpg
Can somebody help me? I have the Leadtek 6600GT Extreme
videcard (default clocks are 550/1120 - 1.6ns memory, max. clock 583/1245)
cooled by Zalman VF700 AlCu (temps ~45C idle, ~67C full load).
Can I use Riva Tuner to see the voltages which are applied to all modes (I believe there are 3 modes - 2D/Low3D/3D) and what is the max. voltage for 3D mode.
Can the voltages be increased for the core so that I could get at least 600 MHz on the core? What about memory?
Also, what is the max. safe voltage for 6600GT? I already
downloaded the "6600gt E (1.4v).zip", but I'm not sure if I
should use it. Is there any suignificant heat increase when upping the voltage?
maybe someone wants to make me bios with losed timmings for my 1,6ns, i want hit 1,4 ghz but im stuck by PCB what is holding me back :P
i have leadtek xtreme 6600GT , right now it runs 685/1385 max
Check for Gigabyte 6600GT BIOS on www.mvktech.net, i got 1420-1450Mhz benchable with it.
OK, but ther are many gigabyte bioses :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Micutzu
The model is GV-NX66T128D ... check here ,i've used rev 01.
get the one that matches you card. Heres 2 from Mkvtech.net
tnx anyways, but story is next : with gigabyte bios i still managed to get 1385 mhz mem, but perf was lower, like 200 pts in 03 :P now i think PCB wount handle that speed well, maybe someone can make or give me some bios with tight timmings ? :slobber: :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by moddolicous
making a modded bios with tighter timings requires u to know how to blind flash if your card doesnt support it. If u really want to try it, the only thing I can think of is flash your card with the monitor off. Once u can get it, then u should be ready to try new mem timings.Quote:
Originally Posted by sponge bob
Quote:
Originally Posted by moddolicous
is easier just writte down all the steps in a sheet of paper than learning how to do it blind....
Yea, I guess you could do that, but its more extreem to memorize it.
sponge bob- I'll be happy to help mod the bioses to memtimings that should be acheivable, just put your clocks to stock when you put in a new bios. And like leviathan18, write down the steps to cold flash. Maybe do a run through before you start.
lol im not a newby :D i have flashed videos (blind) like 10 times, and i have PCI video :P just tighter little timmings, then i will see how it is or so :PQuote:
Originally Posted by moddolicous
I wasnt assuming anything, just giving advice. Do u have a backup of the original bios? Upload it here and I'll try tightening timings.
i have a leadtek 6600 pci-e w/ stock settings of 300/550. I have the card at 450/650 and the core has more on it but i've maxed out rivatuner. does the bios determine how high the slider goes in rivatuner or do i change something else to give me more headroom? i'd like temperature monitoring to be enabled and 400/625 to be the stock clocks for my card. would anybody be able to do this for me? here's my current bios: http://www.mvktech.net/component/opt...rent,category/
hmm i have lost my stock bios :P just take stock leadtek bios, and edit it plz , then i will look it ;):)Quote:
Originally Posted by moddolicous
Alright spongebob, here are two modded bioses. I couldnt remember if u had an AGP 660gt or a PCI-E 6600gt.
Sry to ask, but when you say 400/625, is that with the ddr clock? Like, with ddr, 625 would be 1250, so I'm assuming thats what u mean right?Quote:
Originally Posted by dqniel
stock on the 6600 pci-e non-ddr2 version (the version i have) is 275 or 550. so i'd like mine to be 313 or 625; it's not 625 or 1250...the regular 6600's ram is much to slow for that ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by moddolicous
Alright, thats why i asked. So I'll set the clocks to 400/625 and the temp monitoring.
thanks a bunch :)Quote:
Originally Posted by moddolicous
i still don't know how to get any higher than 450 using rivatuner though. does anybody have an idea for how i can overclock higher? i can't use the nvidia utility because it will "fail the driver testing" if i do it that way.
*edit* nm, i found the option for maxclock in the poweruser settings of riva tuner.
i'm at 540/640 right now and still climbing. the memory isn't ocin that great so might attempt my first vmod after xmas
All went well I guess? Whats your 3dmark scores?Quote:
Originally Posted by dqniel
i'll bench after i flash this thing so i can know the temps are safe.Quote:
Originally Posted by moddolicous
also, my ram doesn't like my cpu or the memory controller is bad so benching just makes me angry :(. my 3000+ does 2.95ghz on air but my tccd won't do anything respectable. right now it's at 250 3-4-4-8 :(. individually the sticks do about 310 2.5-4-3-7 each but together i can't do crap. i would love to bench at like 328x9 with a 9/10 divider so i'd have the ram at 295 2.5-4-3-7 but i just can't seem to make it a reality. nobody's tips have helped me out either.
Alright, theres gotta be something wrong with one of your other timings. post an A64 tweaker shot.
Spongbob- Any luck with the bios?
i've gone through just about every setting with mickeymouse but i guess posting a shot won't hurt. i'll get around to it a bit later, along with voltages and bios versions, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by moddolicous
I can't go below 3-4-4-8 at anything over 240 roughly. i can get to around 275 3-4-4-8 stable but the dividers don't work great at that for getting my max oc. last night, i benched at a 5:6 divider and 322htt for 3dmark2k1 3-4-4-8
voltages for benching:
cpu - 1.425 + 113%
chipset - 1.8
ldt - 1.5
voltages for 24/7:
cpu - 1.375 + 113%
chipset - 1.6
ldt - 1.3
http://img284.imageshack.us/img284/7313/64tweak9qr.jpg
http://img286.imageshack.us/img286/9657/dqcpuz7qt.jpg
i have ther Xmas, and messed up with my water cooling, conna try today thos bioses :) tnxQuote:
Originally Posted by moddolicous
Hello, Im looking for a bios for my Galaxy 6600gt AGP.
It is phase change cooled, loaded temp is around -35c. max clock atm is 615/1170 :(
Need more volts on the core
Thanks
Johann
What you need to do is run nvflash and save a copy. Heres the util:
http://www.mvktech.net/component/opt...rent,category/
I "think" the command to type in is:
nvflash -b filename.rom
That should do it. Then post it here. The max you can do on the core is 1.5 I think.
1.4V is max, but it's a real waste to run on phasechange and not voltmod the card; you need 1.8+V to get the best out of that core.
Hi guys, i'm having a little problem finding a bios to my Gainward 6600gt vivo pci-e 128mb..
http://www.mvktech.net/component/opt...cat,89/page,1/
what biosi could i use from there ?
well there are some meaning to
GS is golden sample but what is GLH ?
thnx :)