Memesana did 23 seconds some time ago.. when patche wasn't out. So that results isn't patched... perhaps he is on 19-20s with the patch now.
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Memesana did 23 seconds some time ago.. when patche wasn't out. So that results isn't patched... perhaps he is on 19-20s with the patch now.
No afaik none of the japs uses the patch (top 5) -
23sek without patch is about 21sek with patch i think..
20-21sQuote:
Originally Posted by dpa
Memesama did get 23 sek... I dont think he would cheat... He is probably at like 20-21 with patch... If he even uses it..
Wonder what a 6-6.1Ghz Prescott can do :D Edit: Nonpatched ;)
FUGGER... you are a twisted individual! :lol: That is a very very nice OC!!! :up:
:worship: to the king!
FUGGER, we are waiting.... :D
Quote:
Originally Posted by dpa
Quote!
also, you are GREAT FUGGER!
Welcome to uQuote:
Originally Posted by Dragonx21
Back up and running, I already beat my 6.3Ghz record.
I had bad core contact yesterday.
Give us some Super Pi benches @ 6Ghz :D That would be GREAT :DQuote:
Originally Posted by FUGGER
451 mhz FSB?
no, cpu-z reads the multi wrong...
multi is 18, not 14, so that makes the FSB to be only 351mhz. ;)
Here FUGGER explains it
When do we see some benching results? I can't wait! :D Go FUGGER! :banana4:
More pictures of mounting and stuff. swapped out some more hardware testing a few things.
I had bad core contact and will fire up again shortly with new CPU.
awsome as always fugger. do you think you can get 100% overclock out of that chip?
fugger - maybe a turbopll on the video card is in order? I seem to remember a post back in the 440bx days about swapping the clock crystal on the video card for a different one to allow higher FSB's too :D
:slobber: :slobber: :slobber:
I would love to see how that cpu would perform with seti, time to complete a work unit. Amazing overclock.
Thanks
Good luck FUGGER, wonder what it will top out at ?
Regards
Andy
pc ice can help u with a 4 stage cooling or optimized ur actual 3 stage, new gas? :D just a suggestion :shrug:
these 3-stage cascades really rocks.. :D
one word, or smily's anyway: :slobber: :slobber: :slobber: :slobber:
saw you where on the DFI website nice :cool:
It looks like FUGGER has left us waitin'.
He likes to see all these guys beggin' @ his feet for his benchscores :P
Well, tbh i'd like to see some numbers and stuff now too ^^
*kissing FUGGERs shoes* :D
No 2 Stage is Better, if it's made right :DQuote:
Originally Posted by dpa
Here You are 22 sek no patch only FX power ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilppa
and -125 C load
WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW congrats!!!!!!!!! :slobber:
You are greatttttttttttttttttttttttttt
New World RECORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
try a 8M, cpumark, 3dmark
:slobber: :slobber: :slobber:
Dont forget this link my friend :toast:
http://www16.big.or.jp/~bunnywk/
Whoa WR shweet dude!
Done!Quote:
Originally Posted by cpulloverclock
more comming :toast:
nice job that's officialQuote:
Originally Posted by Tom Holck
if someone gets 22s, you'll always be the #1
22s :eek: congrats :D
:toast:
:D:D:D
congrats Tom, scandinavia still going strong
congrats Tom! Respect!
GREAT TOM!!!
THIS VERY NICE WR!!!
FUGGER i don't understand your "i has bad core"... ???
Incredible! Both Fuggers clocks and Toms! :D
FUGGER needs 21sek now...!!
Intel POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
normally Intel can do the same score at 5.8-6GHz with the S775 (bad perf)Quote:
Originally Posted by dpa
Damn tom, mad clocks. Shoot for 4ghz now ;)
Amazing. Congratulations.
Congrats Tom :) I wanna see fugger's 22 or 21s
Sorry was away for most of the weekend.
Awesome job Tom.
3 stage > 2 stage, cant wait to see you make the transition.
According to the site, someone on A64 just broke 21s..
fake, there was a 19s but deleted, 21s is always postedQuote:
Originally Posted by Mag Master 21
congrat FUGGER, i'm waiting u to go farther
nice job FUGGER,
by the way, this is the first time I saw an 875 chipset with a lga775.
DFI supports you :)
so who comes 1st with a 21sec? tom??? fugger??? the japs???
im waitin we are all :slobber: :slobber: :slobber: and waiting :D
Excuse me, but why are you calling my SuperPI patch crap?Quote:
Originally Posted by macci
Just curious...
Cos it makes it impossible to compare results w/ the original SuperPi? Cos the patched version only works on Prescott? Cos it makes Prescott look better than it actually is? :D
You should have clearly renamed the software to Prescott-SuperPi (or SuperPi 1.1 or sumthing). That way it would have been easier to see which version of SuperPi was used and it would be easier to compare results.
Just personal thoughts nothing more.
Nice to see what the prescott can do once the software is optimized for it thou.
patch is not "optimization" like in 3DMark because it does not affect the computation result. PI is still calculated with the same precision. You are welcome to compare the results of unpatched and patched version. You will see that every digit is the same. Hopefully you will do binary compare of two output files instead of checking by hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crankster
I have made that patch and posted it first on www.intelfanboy.com using the same nick as here -- you can look it up there if you do not believe.
there are two versions of the patch. One that uses SSE3 FISTTP instruction and another one that is using SSE2 code so it can also be run on Northwood and Athlon 64. It can give up to 12% speedup.
I am soo sick of so called benching community "ethics". testing the latest CPUs with dated, unoptimized FPU code fair, when in reality no one will use such a crappy software. The software that needs optimization the most is already optimized so why not use it? Why SuperPI? Why not something that uses the full potential of a CPU and not just one legacy unit? If my CPU has a feature called SSE2 or SSE3 I want to be able to use it because I paid for it.
alright, lets compare a linux run to your patched one. The linux will have you beat by 10 seconds......
fair?
Who gives a ... (insert your favorite curse word here)?!?Quote:
Originally Posted by macci
There are two versions as I said above. Look them up.Quote:
Originally Posted by macci
No, it does not. It just enables me to use what I paid for. For me that result is legit as much as any other. Why? Because:Quote:
Originally Posted by macci
- method of calculation hasn't changed -- algorithm is the same
- accuracy is the same
- PI result is exactly the same
I am sorry but I didn't have the source code and honestly I was lazy to patch the GUI so it says "SSE2" or "SSE3" in window title. Disassembling and patching the right instruction(s) is hard enough when you are doing it on someone else's code let alone the code is more than 10 years old and poorly optimized (if at all). Also, I have released the patches against the original SuperPI, not the patched SuperPI executable itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by macci
Let me remind you that I believe that everyone should use maximum power they can squeeze from their CPU. If you have SSE2 and/or SSE3 than that is the result you should publish. If you don't -- well, you are out of luck because you are going to be slower than those who do.
Tell me honestly, if you have Intel CPU do you disable SSE2 when you use VirtualDub, encode divx or mp3, work in Photoshop, etc? No? Do you disable Hyper-Threading? No? Well, why should you disable any of it in SuperPI or any other benchmark for chrissakes? Just a rhetorical question, don't have to answer it.
Fair enough for me. That doesn't prove that Linux is better OS, just that the Linux version of SuperPI (if that is what you were talking about) is optimized better. All that matters to me is that the program used is still SuperPI and the calculation result is exactly the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by computerpro3
Those who use it, apparently.Quote:
Who gives a ... (insert your favorite curse word here)?!?
Link to the SSE2 version? Thx :)Quote:
There are two versions as I said above. Look them up.
Here you go:Quote:
Originally Posted by macci
Prescott PI
Northwood PI
Technical details of the patch
Everyone, sorry I got a bit pissed off. Fugger, great job done with O/C. Keep it up.
So what about a version that uses 3DNow and AMD64?
AMD64 can use SSE2 code and sorry but I don't have the SuperPI source code to recompile for AMD64 in 64-bit mode and I don't have AMD64 CPU to develop and test it on. Note that recompiling would also bring advantage to Intel CPUs because the whole application would get optimized. 3DNow would hardly give any advantage. You are welcome to try and make 3DNow and AMD64 patch though. I did all I could (without source code) to utilize full power of my Pentium 4 520.Quote:
Originally Posted by DudeMiester
FUGGER, insane overclocks you got going!
got a question. I've got an 875P-T, but I've got throttling issues at higher cpu clocks. There's no option to disable thermal throttling in the bios. Did you encounter throttling issues or found a way round them?
he's running at -119c I'm guessing He hasn't had any thermal issues mate :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ablaze
as throttling wouldn't come into play till you were nearing the instability temps.. 60c +
I think you're right about that. haha
I was initially under the impression that throttling came into play at the edges of system stability cos though load temps shot up to 66°C for me, even when running benches at idle temps of 40+ the cpu still throttled.
but now, I just re-tweaked my setup and load temps are at 55, and throttling's gone! :)
anyway, just for confirmation, FUGGER, did you encounter any throttling on your setup?
What happens when the next generation of AMD processors have a new set of instructions that make it work better should we perclude their use? And in teh original superPI is tehre any other code that is processor unique?Quote:
Originally Posted by macci
AMD rocks :banana4:Quote:
Originally Posted by chilly1
OPP
IntelInside has a point. If we can't use his SuperPI, because it uses SSE3, why should people be allowed to use HT in benchmarks? What's legal, and what's not? Personally I don't se it as a cheat. Don't know about you guys, but would be fun to hear your opinions. Oh, by the way, I own a AMD, so I'm not a FanBoy ;)
Ablaze, no throttling. You are thinking of Nvidia based video cards.
Pi is a touchy issue for most when it comes to version and optimizations. we had a version we trusted the result but had very poor ability show exact results. meaning that it did not break down to tenths or hundredth of a second.
We dont really know how it was coded other than it was coded poorly in the first place. We see other operating systems scoring much better at the exact same calculation.
My G5's can pull 11 second pi and I am sure the new 2.5Ghz duals can pull under 10 seconds.
Now with all the fuss over verison and the inability to distinguish verions I may hold off on Pi untill we can to a happy medium where results are accepted without question on the Pentium platform w/Prescott.
as i have mentioned before...do we need DOOM 3 Prescott Version and DOOM3 Winchester Version?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kane
I have no problem with people running it, just as long as it can be distinguished from "normal" super-pi.
that said, is 40 seconds @ 2211mhz on A64 2800+ clawhammer with 512k L2 good? :D
EDIt
maybe its time for a new version of super-pi? one that you can choose between raw calculation ("divide this into this until you get to this many decimal places, period"), SSE2, SSE3, and maybe someone with enough motivation could throw in 3DNow for fun.
Myself I want to see a video card calculate pi to 1m places.. im sure someone from www.gpgpu.org might think it an interesting thing to try? :p:
Super PI sucks anyway:D
OPP
lol
I suck at that benchmark, 24s :DQuote:
Originally Posted by STEvil
OPP
hmm, this patch feels unnaturalQuote:
Originally Posted by IntelInside
I struggled to hit 25 sec on win2k@3232MHz (FX53). The NW (SSE2) patch took off 0.72 sec, so 24 sec now looks a possibility with win2003 + patch.
This is going to make it very hard if not impossible to compare superpi scores, thus invalidating it as a benchmark.
benchmark(ing):
n., A standard by which something can be measured or judged
tr.v., To measure (a rival's product) according to specified standards in order to compare it with and improve one's own product.
excuse me...but why have you offically wrecked a benchmark many of us use?Quote:
Originally Posted by IntelInside
by no means am I saying that enabling optimizations in a program is bad...it's just that enabling them in a Benchmark for COMPARISON purposes and NOT BEING ABLE TO DIFFER BETWEEN PATCHED AND UNPATCHED is really wrecking and destroying the purpose of superpi...
just use codered's processtimer, it tells u ur exact time to the hundredthsQuote:
Originally Posted by FUGGER
Where I can dl it?Quote:
Originally Posted by blinky
hum...
Quote:
Originally Posted by blinky
I think SuperPi is pretty masochistic to be honest, made for people who like seeing the same result time after time until you scream and run out of the room. Pifast is far superior IMO.
Codered is right, a benchmark needs to be a standard.
Regards
Andy
really insane....
nice work :)
http://users.tpg.com.au/spark69/ProcessTimer.exeQuote:
Originally Posted by cpulloverclock
:)
First, congratulations Fugger. Great job.
You have inspired me to get into overclocking. Since then I have successfully overclocked my P4 2.4 Ghz to 3.0 Ghz, air cooled. Also, my GF FX 5900 from 350 Mhz to 452 Mhz, with 754 Mhz RAM. Air cooled as well.
I really want to learn more about that phase change cooling method you used, and I will be reading more abou it and possibly building my own.
Again, nice job dude.
Skillz, Welcome to XS and thanks for the kind words.
just be carefull not to blow anything up :)
Using a patch on Super Pi is kinda of a cheat, and kinda isnt. If the standard Super Pi release had SSE3 optimisations (which prescott uses), would you complain then? Oh, and welcome to XS Skillz. :)
way to go :toast:
insane clocks :stick:
Perfect!...
All this dispute over super pi made Fugger not post his results...
Personally I`d like to see any bench marks....old or new pi
Great clocks by the way Fugger :banana:
he's still working on them and testing the cascade i'd bet.
Thanks guys. So far, I like being here.
Hopefully you guys will answer all my crazy questions I will start having when I really start to get into this. :rocker:
real nice work fugger, waiting for more
(and getting my own 875P-T as soon als available in Germany)
Are you using centon advanced TCCD memory? I haven't heared about this brand before. so, I have a question, when you run your machine to 5-6ghz, what memory fequency you use and what is the CL setting. Can this memory works at CL2.5 at 280? at 260 1:1, what setting this mem can reach. thank you very much. :rolleyes:
FUGGER do u have a pictures of cooling system or video of overclocking?? :(
Great job fugger!! lets see some stable benches please :toast:
Welcome to XtremeSystems
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=44089
That thread has pictures and I think there are a few buried in this thread.
Another huge push on the DFI 876P-T incomming.
huh?? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by FUGGER
It's a typo I think
I think he mentioned a DFI 865P-T like Asus p5p800
maybe he just has an idea how to push his DFI 875P-T further
That's what I was thinkin' too....come on bro, show us what you've got. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by burnout
There is more stuff coming to make the dfi go further maybe another few hundred MHZ... a lot colder anyway!
LN2 time :p:
Are you guys gonna use your LN2 setup chilly1?
keep pushing fugger!!
where can I get superpi now...can't find it anymore
Crow get Super PI from here:
http://www.computerbase.de/downloads...arks/super_pi/
Bias, whats so revolting for normal air-users is that that cascade is darn close if not better than LN2.