My CPU makes me mad. It is the cause of me not being able to hit high clocks. I can't even get my CPU at 2.2GHz and clock my RAM at 250FSB. This really sucks.:( What is a good Skt 754 CPU to get?
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My CPU makes me mad. It is the cause of me not being able to hit high clocks. I can't even get my CPU at 2.2GHz and clock my RAM at 250FSB. This really sucks.:( What is a good Skt 754 CPU to get?
I HAVE FINALLY DONE IT!!!! :D :D :D :D :toast:
512x2 @ 270!!!!
I have gotten 300x7.0 with a 9/10 Divider giving me 270FSB @ 2.5-4-3-10.
I ran MemTest86 and I got no errors during Test #5. Thank god!!! What was funny was that MemTest86 said my RAM was at 300FSB but it isn't. Here is a screen.
EDIT:
And here are my other bench results..
SuperPi: 41s
3DMark03: 7,223 (441/375 *GFX has more in her I know...*)
hmm, would these sticks take me to 285-290 on an asus p4c800dlx fully votl modded?
Well these sticks kinda top out at v2.9. After that they get really really hot. If you are going to do so I would run a fan that pushes some good CFM on the RAM.Quote:
Originally Posted by wfarid
You dare to give cpu 1.7 volt ugp ?
I need alot to get it stable over 2.2 gig.
Awaiting my replacement from RMA....
I really hope to do 300MHz stable.
How long would it take to get it ?
No idea.
OCZ confirmed that they got mine yesterday and promised me to replace it as soon as possible.
Next week i guess.
Nope, no pics unfortunately. I am sure I can get it to 250 or thereabouts, but I think I am nearing the limit of what my clawhammer will do on air. With my multiplier set to 10x I am edging close to 2.5GHz. Timings are set to 2.5 3 3 10 and I am getting roughly 3800 in sandra and 35 seconds in SuperPI. I tried going 3 4 4 10 briefly and got 250 bench stable. Not sure if it was 100% stable though as I switched back to 2.5 3 3 10. I got some more bandwidth out of the memory according to sandra, but I lost time in SuperPI.Quote:
Originally Posted by ugp
I got my 270FSB but come to find out it wasn't stable. So I am back at 250x8.0 with 1:1. It seems to work well for what it is running. I guess I am happy with it for the time being. I want to get back into gaming and all. When I feel like it I will mess with it some more. But today is my last day of my vacation and I am not going to have anymore time to mess with it at all.
Run low timings and you get simliar results i guess in games.
No need for this high fsb i think.
I am also wanting overall performance though too. In everything. Really I am happy with 250FSB. I just want alittle higher CPU clock...
You hit the nail right on the head that's what i'm aiming for myself. I love to bench but i like games even more. As long as i can get my new sticks of bh5 to 250+ i'm happy. I was going to drop the money on some g.kill OR the 3200el rev2 but they're around $280'ish and for $100 i got 2 sticks of Kingston bh5 which i thought they didn't make anymore but it's all over atm. I'll probably break down and get some 3200EL in a month or two once i upgrade again but until them i'm happy.Quote:
Originally Posted by ugp
Btw, great work on the OC with that ram.. pretty sick
I would say get the OCZ man...it does really well as you can see from this thread.
I'll get me some once nf4 boards with sli are out i plan on upgrading at that point once again :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ugp
I couldn't resist the $100 bucks thou for the bh5 especially since i can slap it in my girlfriend's computer.
Anyone get the new OCZ PC3700 Rev3 yet?
JNav89GT and I just co-authored a review on both the GOLD 3700 Rev.3, and Platinum 3200EL Rev.2. It covers the memory's peformance on an Asus P4C800-Ed and Socket 939 platforms; http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&articID=229
OFF TOPIC: By the way PULSAR I grew up in CT. (Branford). Lived in NYC in 1984, to ECSU in 1987, then to U of Utah, came back to Storrs, UCONN, then to NoHo MASS, then to UMASS Amherst, then to the Cape (Cod), then to Breckinridge CO, Santa Barbara CA, Lake Tahoe NV, back to Cape Cod, then Jaco Costa Rica, to Escondido CA then surfed CA Coast for the Winter Swells, back to the Cape again, then Costa Rica, back to the Cape, and off to Hawaii, back to the Cape once more, then finally Newport RI in 2000 this is the longest I've lived in one place in 18 years. Nice to have a neighbor.
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What timings did you run at 265fsb on the rev 2 ram in that review ?
Nvm just found it.
2.5-3-3-8
ibid
You wrote Cas 2.5 4:4:8 @ 265mhz in the review.
Did you try 2.5-3-3 ?
I can do 275 on this, but its just one stick.
Think i buy one more just for fun =)
i got 2x 512MB OCZ PC3700 Gold rev3 here, tested 1x 512MB stick of it on my DFI NF3 250Gb did 275mhz 2.5-3-3-8 at 2.8v very easy, the last 5-10mhz for 280-285mhz 2.5-3-3-8 took alot more tweaking and a bit of vdimm to hit it... so i'd say 275mhz 2.5-3-3-8 is easyQuote:
Originally Posted by =[PULSAR]=
Eva do you post your settings in some forum somewhere ?
Would be helpful to read them.
You do good "reviews" with much info, very nice of you!
I posted general mem info specific to DFI NF3 250Gb here http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=142 but in depth memory results will be posted later, still getting the feel for the DFI settings and how different ram interact with this board :)
You havent tried any other tref then 200mhz ?
200mhz for me lower bandwitdth alot.
I rather use 166 7.8us
nah haven't tried tref yet heh
Try it, you will gain ~100 meg in sandra.
Put it to 166.
DNA drivers, some tweaking and 300FSB and very very cold room =)
i'm disappointed with that review at madshrimps, they should used a 2.4c and saw how high it would go... using a 3.0c, thats just lame esp when ur testing out memory, the memory can def go above 250 on an intel sys, the 3.0c was the limiting factor...
which voltages did u use on mems,chipset and agp? and why that timing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ubermann
chip 1.8
agp 1.5 (i think)
dimm 2.9
And this timing is the only one that works with 300.
So not fair...I don't even use 3DMark01SE anymore. 3DMark03 is more accurate as you can see. I score 7200+ with my CPU only clocked at 2.0GHz. It is more GFX driven like it should be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ubermann
3dmark01 is more fun for me, 3dmark03 is very hard for me to get good score.
I dont even have heatsinks on ram on the ati =)
dooooooooooh! i cant run 3dmark01 with more then 290fsb:( i can run 1test with 300fsb, then my comp crashes
You should slap some on there man and overclock them lol. I can't even score as high as you are on 3DMark01SE because I can't clock my CPU high enough man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ubermann
I got to 7200 in 3dmark03
Put it on 470/390, had some strange graphix thru the test =))
Yeah those test don't count in my opinion lol...
@Ubermann: Are your overclocks stable? Or are you just testing them and thats it. Are you running MemTest86 on them?
AgreedQuote:
Originally Posted by wfarid
295/8 is stable for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by ugp
300/8 isnt stable for prime but its stable enough for running 3dmark01 and 3dmark03 and some pi and stuff without any crashes.
Gonna mount a cpu cooler on the ati and some ramsink, i wonder if an P3 stock cooler has right dimension.
Dont really know how it looks, gonna pick it up tomorrow.
it's always better to review processors in production!Quote:
i'm disappointed with that review at madshrimps, they should used a 2.4c and saw how high it would go... using a 3.0c, thats just lame esp when ur testing out memory, the memory can def go above 250 on an intel sys, the 3.0c was the limiting factor...
Grab a heatsink for like a Barton 2500+ and it will fit just right. You just have to line up the holes and drill two holes. Then takes 4 zip ties and cut the end off of 2 of them and that is going to be on the back of the card itself and use the other 2 zip ties through the heatsink and card of course. It works really well. The card can support the weight. I am going to do it to mine as soon as I get a heatsink.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ubermann
Some settings for running 2.5-3-3
297 fsb
Chipset 1.8
Dram 2.8
1/1
cpc on
Cas 2.5
Ras to cas 3
Min ras 6
TRP 3
TRC 10
TRFC 16
TRRD 1
TWR 2
TWTR 1
TWTR 2
TREF 4607
TWCL 1
DQS INC
SKEW 255
DRAM LEVEL 1
MAX ASYNC 8
READ PRE AUTO
IDLE CYCLE 16
DYNAMIC COUNTER ON
R/W QUEUE 16
BYPASS MAX 3
32BYTE DISABLE (ENABLE)
Wow really nice clocks Ubermann I think you just sold me on buying some of that ram. Did you remove the heatspreader and add some sort of extra cooling?
any test of these memory with DFI NF2/ABIT NF7-S 2.0 ?
I have a gig of 3700EB right now and I'm thinking about getting either the 3200EL Rev2 or the 3700 Gold Rev3. Anybody tried all three before? Which one is the best?
I haven't tried the EB but I can tell you this. For Bandwidth I'd say you have the best. If your going AMD or looking to run at lower or default speeds with tight timmings the Platinum EL would be best. But the Rev3 3700 won't out perform your EB, so I'd stick with what you have, and spend the cash on a faster CPU.
EDIT sorry just noticed you have a FX53, so I'd guess the FX55 is out of the question? With your Processor I'd go Platinum EL, but that Mushkin is probably great stuff with it's BH5, want to get rid of it? If you do PM me.
I agree, Liquid3D
Thanx :)
We've seen some really outrageous speed being done with this memory but I'm pretty sure they're no where stable for more than a few minutes. What's the max speed and voltage are you guys running your memory for normal everyday usage?
I've also decided to get a pair to play around with :D
I use 300/8 all days at 2.5-4-3-7.
Im still messing around, dont play any games yet.
The crashes i get is from CPU thats not stable at 2.4 but i run it there anyway =)
Gonna voltmod the ati today, should be fun.
Have one 80's fan blowing over ram and have not removed the heatspreader, should i do that ?
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Originally Posted by Ubermann
How stable?
You better leave the heatspreaders on to keep warrenty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ubermann
The spreaders seem to be attached a whole lot better than other brands, so they actually might work and dissipate the heat from the chips.
Looks like you need a new CPU, most late 3000+ and 3200+ seem to reach 2,6-2,65GHz on air.
1Mb chips seem to become rare.
MRKI its only bench stable so far.
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Originally Posted by Ubermann
whats the highest ht you can run prime stable?
I'd say it's not the rule, but the exception this memory will run at 300FSB.
My review at [M] used a 3.0C because it's PC3200 I was reviewing. If OCZ was absolutely sure every kit pf Platinum EL3200 would run at 300FSB then they would have named it DDR600 or Platinum EL4800 and tagged another $100 on the price tag. Know why they didn't name it EL4800? Because only "some" kits are going to reach those speeds. And while my 3.0C didn't get past 250FSB, it has ran at 265FSB with OCZ PC4200 Premiere.
SO while I could have used a 2.4C for that review, I chose to use a 3.0C because I was testing PC3700 (DDR466) which is a 233FSB or 3495MHz system requirement (easy) and PC3200 (DDR400) which is a 200FSB or 3000MHz system requirement. The 2.4C is a great deal at $145, however; with Intel CPU's I think many would spend the extra $40 and get a processor running 600MHz faster. Next time I will make an effort to test the lower multiplier processor's which can run much higher buses, but I honestly believe in this case it was the memory holding me back, since I'd ran that chip at 3950MHz in the past. I believe it's irresponsible as a Reviewer to give the impression this memory will run at those speeds, and when people spend their hard earned cash they may not be able to clock past PC3200 speeds, I'm sure most kits will clock far beyond their rated speed, but my kit didn't exceed 250FSB or DDR500 speeds.
wow this thread is long
I cant make sense out of it but since it was an ocz thread I had to try to look
Guys heat spreaders are real good as long as you actively cool the dimms. I have found cooling the spreaders keeps the IC's cooler than just removing the spreaders and blowing the same cool air on them.
so some 60mm vent over them wouldnt hurt ?
I'm having trouble getting even 250 out of my Rev2, lots of errors in memtest :(. Running 2-4-3-10, no idea what other settings I should try tweaking from what's available with my A8V :(.
You can't run that at CL2 man...try CL2.5Quote:
Originally Posted by Speedo
I beat that is what your errors are coming from man. I am running 512x2 at 2.5-4-3-0 @ 250FSB. 2.5-3-3-0 is barely a difference so I run it at 4 for stability sake.
I also mounted a 80mm Fan blowing down the DIMM slots and then travels over the rest of the board. Zip-ties are your friend :D
Quote:
Originally Posted by Speedo
OCZ makes some very high quality products, but we must remember if the label says "PC3200" it's sort of unfair to criticze OCZ for that. As I said though, I'd bet 4/5 kits will overclock beyond 250FSB, and many much further based on the quality of the IC's.
With your A8V I'd try SPD, and don't push too much voltage into the I/O Buffers, it only produces more heat, and actually slows the memory.
Messing with heatspreaders isn't going to do anything but violate the warranty. If you want your DDR to run cooler, then case-ventillation is essential. Not only for the memory, but for all the ancillary devices. When a case isn't properly ventilated, heat builds and everything is effected. The NorthBridge runs hotter, and in an Intel system this is where the MCH (Memory Controller Hub) is located.
I would recommend running this memory on SPD. For Intel chipsets SPD seems to work best, and when you raise the FSB so too will the latencies change automatically. Platinum Rev.3 should run at 2-4-4-8 if it's the IC's I think under the heat-spreaders. SPD takes the guess work out of it. The highest I was able to hold tighter timmings was 230FSB and that produced some excellent 3DMark score, and high bandwidth at 2-3-3-6. Here's a good rule of thumb with Intel chipsets. Run the memory on SPD, unless your overclocking to 240FSB where I'd up the Voltage, and try 2-3-3-6. After this I revert back to SPD. The difference between CL-2.5 and CL-3 is nominal at 250FSB and above.
Cas2 was a typo, it's actually at 2.5 ;). SPD doesn't let me get past 215.. :(.
The heatspreader makes really good contact with the chips.
The ADATA my brother have is more like a nice looking "cover" then a heatspreader, cuz those only make contact 1-2 mm on the top of the chips.
Its like the heatspreader is way to large for the RAM inside..
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Originally Posted by Speedo
With A64 on-die MCH, it's critical the CPU is cooled correctly. Water would be best, but air is pushing it, unless it's great afetrmarket cooler. The Strock AMD cooler I got with my A64 3400 was absolutely the worst HSF ever made. Not only was the fan under powered, it had a thermistor on it. It wasn't a fan that should be running any slower then full-speed so thwe thermistor was a complete joker. For a $400 processor at that time it was a sin. Once I got in under water (so to speak) the chip opened up. My buddy is now beating my Butt with 30K 3DMark2001 scores at 2.5GHz, while I'm struggling to break 25K at 3.9GHz. I guess speed isn't everything/anything, something?
I guess you have to really tweakl that BIOS, on the A8V
ouch zeus those are the exact timmings of my default REv 1 EL Platinum edition ramQuote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
i believe i have bad stick of this ram also they are rated 2 3 2 5 at 200 and i am at 201 and i can't run 2 3 2 5 or I have to reset cmos
It's got a nice TTake XP120 on it atm, keeping it nice and cool :). Considering phase change cooling it but i'm not really sure the board will help me along.. might have to get a 754 chip with a lanparty to play with instead ;). There are a lot of memory settings available on the A8V, and I don't know what half of them are or what changing them does. Not found a good thread of someone experimenting a lot with the settings to see how it affects everything and I don't have time to check it all out myself :(. I can run 245 1:1 at 2.5-4-3-10 but I was hoping for more really. Guess i'll have to spend more time playing when I have a chance..Quote:
Originally Posted by Liquid3D
One stick 512 doing 2-2-2-6 at 232FSB.
Stable ? Dont think so =)
Only for Pi and sandra, will test more.
And some more pics at different timings.
Got it PI stable at 5K in sandra, never been able to do that before.
Just numbers, but it took a whole damn week booting and messing with bios to get 5100 sandra.
Nice man!
A whole week is a lot of time but the result is very nice! :toast:
Dont know why i spent one week swearing, i just had to do it =)
Got the booster working again.
The "pot" had lost contact, so i resoldered it and now it works just fine.
I know how it feels, sometimes you just have to prove something to yourself. :D
Good to see you got the booster running again, how much volts did you give the RAM for this run?
3.3 volt
Your giving that Rev 2 3.3? That stuff must be really hot man.