pkrew, do you have a fan blowing on your RAM?
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pkrew, do you have a fan blowing on your RAM?
I have a 120mm antec smart cool blowing on it. It doesn't put out much air. Probably should stick this 90 cfm Sunon I have on there. I had OCZ bga's on all the chips but had to remove them on one side of each stick so the ram would fit. I tried to bend them, but they still ride very close to the solder joints and I'm a little concerned about something shorting out. I'll try to cut them at some point and see if I can make them work
Edit: What's the tweaks for XP and spi. I'm about 10mhz away from 27s, but it will only go 12 loops at that speed.
Do you have Windows Server 2003 ? Supposedly you get a nice bump in Super_Pi ...
pkrew,Quote:
Originally posted by pkrew
I just turned up the 3.3v rail to 3.7v. I only ran it for a few minutes, but I'm sure people have put more than that through A64's. I usually just leave it at 3.5v. The ram gets pretty warm without ramsinks. I'm just going to have to try and cut the ones I have.
Nice memory benching.
You have 3.7V for memory on this mobo.
Can you give me details on the mod?
I'll be picking this mobo up today.
Thanks,
OPP
OPP,
Nice Duke Nuke'm avatar...lol
Did you get your FX-53 finally?
Duke Nuke'm??Quote:
Originally posted by StormPC
OPP,
Nice Duke Nuke'm avatar...lol
Did you get your FX-53 finally?
FX is being shipped today:)
OPP
So thats it, just hook the ATX 3.3 to that cap?Quote:
Originally posted by µnrealneo²
I think it's the same as the K8N....
Great mod, should offer rock stable VDIMM. :cool:
That mod can be found here: http://www.akiba-pc.com/forums/index...topic=70&st=90
OPP
yes its really that simple..:DQuote:
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
So thats it, just hook the ATX 3.3 to that cap?
OPP
is there a way to limit the mod to 3.0-3.2v?
Sure! Put a VR inline?
i tested to limit it with 1k VR , and it don't work , i had 2,9v max.
but monday i tested a floppy wire about 20 cm and i had 3,3v for 3,4 VIO , i think with little resistor 1-5 ohms it ll work fine.
Thanks OPP, yes it's a beautiful little mod. Sets the vdimm to your 3.3v rail. I just wish I had a better cpu or better cooling.
I promised that I would try this with pc3700 eb 2 X 512. This is what I got. First I couldn't boot at anything much above 200 and still get into windows. Then I could get it stable at above 218. Just like the bh-5 I got frustrated and tried 245. It ran beautifully. This is what I ended up with as a max at 3.3v. 260 x 11 at 3226 loading widows at 201 fsb.
I'd think you'd need a lot more than 1k. Try 50k or more.;)Quote:
Originally posted by misteroadster
i tested to limit it with 1k VR , it don't work.
but monday i tested a floppy wire about 20 cm and i had 3,3v for 3,4 VIO , i think with little resistor 1-5 ohms it ll work fine.
Yes, I have a copy, I'll give it a try next time I reload the OSQuote:
Originally posted by LilGator
Do you have Windows Server 2003 ? Supposedly you get a nice bump in Super_Pi ...
Certainly something bigger, just start at zero and work your way up.Quote:
Originally posted by StormPC
I'd think you'd need a lot more than 1k. Try 50k or more.;)
Bandwidth at 260
when i put a 1 k resistor the mod don't work at all , and when i put 6 inches floppy wire i got 3,3v for 3,4. with short 220v wire i have 3,42 for 3,40 :D
the good value to have -0,1v is the resistance of 6 inches floppy wire in fact :banana:
The reason it didn't work is because 1k is not near enough resistance. It's got to be A LOT MORE! Even with infinite resistance (no mod) you'd probably get 2.95v on your board. What's half of infinite?...lolQuote:
Originally posted by misteroadster
when i put a 1 k resistor the mod don't work at all , and when i put 6 inches floppy wire i got 3,3v for 3,4. with short 220v wire i have 3,42 for 3,40 :D
I'm going to try the mod because I can only run at 11.5x233 FSB and I want to run like 11x244 or 10.5x255. Do you think I can get this increase just with the VDIMM mod? I get 1.700 volts to the CPU which I think is plenty on air cooling.
What memory will you be using Storm?Quote:
Originally posted by StormPC
The reason it didn't work is because 1k is not near enough resistance. It's got to be A LOT MORE!
I'm going to try the mod because I can only run at 11.5x233 FSB and I want to run like 11x244 or 10.5x255. Do you think I can get this increase just with the VDIMM mod? I get 1.700 volts to the CPU which I think is plenty on air cooling.
Mushkin single-sided PC3200 2-2-2 specials. I believe they are BH-6.Quote:
Originally posted by pkrew
What memory will you be using Storm?
IMO with good aircooling you can run 1.8-1.85v ok.
I run 1.85 into my 3200+ and it's been folding for months w/out problems. It's alpha aircooled and max temps are high 40's to low 50's C
Yes, they are bh-6. You wont know until you try, but bh-6 can do pretty well. I'd say you have a good shot
Storm Pc , do the cap's mod with 10 inches floppy wire for 3,1v for 3,3 vio and you 'll get 245.
Thanks guys!
misteroadster:
I want some adjustment. I'm gonna try a 1 Meg ohm VR. That should do something!
pkrew:
YHPM!
1Mohms !!!! you should try 10 inches floppy wire and do the psu mod to adjust man ;)
I may have to. I'll see what I'm getting on my 3.3v rail tonight.
i measured 10 inches wire with my poor multimeter , it said 1,5 ohm
Here is the back of the 939 gigabyte.
So what cap leg do I connect the atx 3.3 to??
OPP
right there OPP
whats wrong with 3.3v on the BH-6 ?
a circle rather than a black dot that looks like a hole may have been a better idea ;)
Use a thick wire for +3.3 = vdimm, small wires cant handle the amperage.
I'd have used a red dot but I think we get the idea.Quote:
Originally posted by STEvil
a circle rather than a black dot that looks like a hole may have been a better idea ;)
Use a thick wire for +3.3 = vdimm, small wires cant handle the amperage.
pkrew...your X800 XT is on it's way.:up:
Well, I was in a hurry, lol. Thanks Storm, looking forward to it.Quote:
Originally posted by StormPC
I'd have used a red dot but I think we get the idea.
pkrew...your X800 XT is on it's way.:up:
Finally hit 27s on generic winXP
Nice bud! :up: Your ram is kickin a s s! I can only get 264 3D stable, Sandra I can get 268 or so. Lookin forward to your 3D runs once you get your card. 35K will be done very easily with your HTT and ram running the way they are.
very good man :D you've got "THE" rig !
Thanks my friend. That ram has always been good to me esp on giga A64 boards. I tried the 2 x 512 of eb and ran some 3d at the same clock. Was hoping that the 1g of memory would increase my score. Even though I was running 3225 the bh-5 was over 200 points faster clock for clock.Quote:
Originally posted by oc-rookie
Nice bud! :up: Your ram is kickin a s s! I can only get 264 3D stable, Sandra I can get 268 or so. Lookin forward to your 3D runs once you get your card. 35K will be done very easily with your HTT and ram running the way they are.
WTG, pkrew. That's one kick-ass set-up you got right now. :toast:
Do you have your sandra 04 mark scores?Quote:
Originally posted by pkrew
I tried the 2 x 512 of eb and ran some 3d at the same clock. Was hoping that the 1g of memory would increase my score. Even though I was running 3225 the bh-5 was over 200 points faster clock for clock.
What is the point to the Supper Pi?
The Sandra memory score are in the thread. The rest of Sandra is pretty much meaningless IMHO
WOW, just to show the power of 939
This is at 12 x 244, stock card clocks
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7967894
This is at 11 x 266 Stock card at 555/610
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7968195
cats 4.5
BTW Stormpc, you did a great job with the card, you're my hero atm.
Looks good. Stock cooling still on the XT, right?:toast:
Yes, still stock cooling, vanilla winXP. My copy of win2k is defunct after 5yrs.
Cool!:cool:Quote:
Originally posted by pkrew
Yes, still stock cooling, vanilla winXP. My copy of win2k is defunct after 5yrs.
I just remembered all my benches were with the 3D sliders in default position. I couldn't figure out how everybody was cleaning my clock in Nature!:lol:
I should be able to do closer to 31.5k with no mods or tweaks (OC and sliders excepted of course).
Good job so far.:thumbsup:
Looking good :toast:Quote:
Originally posted by pkrew
WOW, just to show the power of 939
This is at 12 x 244, stock card clocks
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7967894
This is at 11 x 266 Stock card at 555/610
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7968195
cats 4.5
BTW Stormpc, you did a great job with the card, you're my hero atm.
Those lobby scores are impressive
Pkrew,Quote:
Originally posted by pkrew
WOW, just to show the power of 939
This is at 12 x 244, stock card clocks
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7967894
This is at 11 x 266 Stock card at 555/610
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7968195
cats 4.5
BTW Stormpc, you did a great job with the card, you're my hero atm.
'grats, man.........that's showin' the FX/939 powaaa', lol.
Thanks charlie, I'll probably be able to top 34k with stock cooling on the card. I suspect someone with cascade will hit near 38k
Wow ! congrats :toast:
This mobo is the winner guys.
Thanks pkrew and misteroadster for sharing your findings.:toast:
I got my FX today, just started testing. Running my Mushkin rock solid at a mild 250 for starts, 2-2-2-5.
Want to test the FX first for MHz before I push the memory.
And check out the temp moniter. This bugger reads just 4 degrees warmer then my Evaporator, very nice.
Finnally a motherboard that reads into the -80s:D
OPP
wow, nice job man, thats really showing the potential of these boards, im starting to believe OPP when he says 40k is comin up :DQuote:
Originally posted by pkrew
WOW, just to show the power of 939
This is at 12 x 244, stock card clocks
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7967894
This is at 11 x 266 Stock card at 555/610
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7968195
cats 4.5
BTW Stormpc, you did a great job with the card, you're my hero atm.
Thanks OPP, cant wait to see what you get for scores. Glad you like the mb
I'm haveing a bad time with the v-core. What did set your 50k to and how much voltage are you getting?Quote:
Originally posted by pkrew
Thanks OPP, cant wait to see what you get for scores. Glad you like the mb
I started out at 50k, which gave me 1.74 at 1.7 in the bios. I used cpu-z to check voltage and then slowly turned it down. I left it at 2.05v. When I measured it at that setting it read 5.6k. It overvolts at 2.1 and the board tends to overvolt under load. Which chip did you mod?
The one closest to the CPU.
That's the one I modded. Did you get it to work?
+1Quote:
Originally posted by pkrew
I started out at 50k, which gave me 1.74 at 1.7 in the bios. I used cpu-z to check voltage and then slowly turned it down. I left it at 2.05v. When I measured it at that setting it read 5.6k. It overvolts at 2.1 and the board tends to overvolt under load. Which chip did you mod?
opp do you have any problem with your khx3200 bh5 and the nf3 250 s939 ?
good question tanker , because i had tested some BH5 , none works properly.
Do you try oranges and purples dimms ? what happened ?
Thanks OPP and what a cooling you have !!!!!!!!!impressive !!! :toast:
Edit: Sometimes, i dont understand why , the vcore mod don't work (rarely); and (with 1,7v bios) i have 1,66v (vmod connected) instead 1,74v normally ; and i get 1,74v when i disconnect the mod , it's strange :D
i have to power off/on and it re-works.
Opp, what ram do you recommend for this board in particular?
I think he prefers Buffalo PC2100 with Elixer chipsQuote:
Originally posted by WeaponX
Opp, what ram do you recommend for this board in particular?
Noooo! J/K
He likes his Kingston BH-5
but I think most people are having great luck with OCZ PC3500/3700EB or some High end CH-5 chipped ram.
I don't have ram suggestions for this mobo yet.
I just started playing. All I have used is my Mushkin LevelII 3500.
Runs OK gunna try my 3500 EB today and see what happens.
I had to give up last night, but I never got it to do 2V on the v-core. It would freeze up in windows at 1.95.
I'm useing a Cascade for cooling the CPU, made by PCIce, very cold:)
OPP
->WeaponX, the best rams i ve tested on this M/B was corsair 3200 LLPT 1.2(CH5) 2X512 : about 260 superpi 1M 3,7v 5/2/2/2
Zipzoomfly has a good price on the Giga board. $150. Unfortunately, it's on back order at the moment.
Update: the board is now available at zzf, but the price jumped to $219. :(
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...uctCode=241760
OMG 3.7 VDDR ???Quote:
Originally posted by misteroadster
->WeaponX, the best rams i ve tested on this M/B was corsair 3200 LLPT 1.2(CH5) 2X512 : about 260 superpi 1M 3,7v 5/2/2/2
and still alive ???
That's a really good price, I paid 230.00 for mine :(.
The reason why I'm asking about the ram is that I currently have a pair for Mushkin PC3500 Level 2s (2 x 512mb) and I debating whether I should keep them or not.
With the current system I have (see sig), I could not overclock the ram at all, even after setting the ram voltages to 3.3v did nothing but give me more memory errors. I think I just have a bad set of them.
I've been eyeing down the OCZ 3700's as they're the current favorites amongst people here and at Anandtech.com. But I'll definitely do some research on the Corsair 3200 LLPT 1.2s as they are a bit cheaper :D.
I'm getting geared up to buy (within this week) the rest of my watercooling setup and the OCZ 520 Powerstream PSU (was going to get the PC Power & Cooling 510, but it was just too expensive).
Anybody know why the FX53 prices keep on rising?:confused:
yes , of course ;) Winbond chips love voltage :)Quote:
Originally posted by Dagalidis
OMG 3.7 VDDR ???
and still alive ???
argh! retail FX-53 has went up $10 since last night.
I give up on this board.
It has a major v-core problem. I can't get 2V without blowing up the mobo. 2 gigas bit the dust already from my trusty VR.
OPP
Sorry to hear that OPP, not sure why you cant get 2v. I've ran mine that high it just doesn't help the cpu I have
Same thing for me 2V doesn't help , but we don't have the same temps for sure.
probably your cpu doesn't like more voltage :/
I ran this at the voltage in the pic. My cpu hates it and overclocks less acutally. Probably a temp thing. I watched it in cpu-z and while running spi it overvolted to 2.112
Where is that damn A8N-Deluxe-939???:mad:
I think the reason for the delay in 939 boards may be related to the fact that they are testing 90nm CPUs with them to make sure the motherboards can run both 130nm and 90nm reliably. At least I hope that's the reason. Could be a PCI-E thing also.:rolleyes:
OPP, if it doesn't have ov protection at 2.1v as mine went up to 2.112 then you may have fried it will too much voltage. What did you have vcore set at and did you try to run anything?Quote:
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
I give up on this board.
It has a major v-core problem. I can't get 2V without blowing up the mobo. 2 gigas bit the dust already from my trusty VR.
OPP
Off topic:
Sorry guys for this question but i feel like i missed something....
3.7 volts DDR isnt too dangerus for cpu mem controller ????
I dont get it...
Something changed here with 939 socket@nforce3 250 and i miss it ?
All I did was have the v-core set to 1.95V.
Ran some 3D and it shut off the PSU. When I powered up the PSU somthing under that Mosfet heatsink thing poped.
This is the second mobo it blew on. I think it's with the VR for the v-core being set to low in Ohms.
OPP
the best i could have with about 1,84v useless to increase it.
http://pageperso.aol.fr/misteroadster/SuperpiM.JPG
Strange, I wonder why yours poped and mine didn't. Must be something to do with the dps.Quote:
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
All I did was have the v-core set to 1.95V.
Ran some 3D and it shut off the PSU. When I powered up the PSU somthing under that Mosfet heatsink thing poped.
This is the second mobo it blew on. I think it's with the VR for the v-core being set to low in Ohms.
OPP
http://pageperso.aol.fr/misteroadster/3800Max.JPG
2V only use for Max screen :D
Very nice !!!. Probably better than my max screen
i think you can do better , i could hit 3160 with my FX53 940.
it's just a good alcoolic Wchiller :toast:
Dont think so, I think you have a little better cooling or a better chip
New nickname : OPPopper ? :stick: ;)Quote:
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
All I did was have the v-core set to 1.95V.
When I powered up the PSU somthing under that Mosfet heatsink thing poped.
OPP
with 1,84v i had 2900 32M spi , i think with your temp you could hit about 3100 3DMark 2K1 benchable with 1,9v :/
My mbm (5.3.7 M/B K8npro) temp idle at 1,5vcore is -26.
temp mbm idle at 1,7v bios idle is -22° just 67° between you and me !!!
3100MHz isn't enough.Quote:
Originally posted by misteroadster
New nickname : OPPopper ? :stick: ;)
with 1,84v i had 2900 32M spi , i think with your temp you could hit about 3100 3DMark 2K1 benchable with 1,9v :/
My mbm (5.3.7 M/B K8npro) temp idle at 1,5vcore is -26.
OPP
Yep, I would think you'd want to hit 3.3-3.5 with it. How high did you get the cpu with the unmodded vcore?
OPP,
You just need a "good" A8V...........
:D
I d forget your insane FX53 940 3DMark2001 frequency 3280 Mhz !!! :slobber:Quote:
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
3100MHz isn't enough.
OPP
What was the vcore for this OPP ?
I suppose More than 2v ?
Per haps k8nsnxp's vcore mod is wrong ; but with or without it , the vcore is very very unstable in full work , i remember the K8nspro nforce3 250 , and it was the same : Vcore raise and very variable in full too , without mods.
I think this variation is due to nf3 250, but it overclocks 30-40mhz better in aircooling than nf3 150.
I tested A8v/K8nsnxp , the gigabyte is the best overclocker : about 30-40 mhz better again with stock cooling stock Vcore. (the best in aircooling for me)
I agree the gigabyte's mosfets are very hot !!
I'll see that when i ll unscrew the M/B
Just an update on some scores for this combo. Cats 4.7
2k3 at 244 x 12, stock card at 550/604
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=2777265
Am3 at 246 x 12, stock card at 570/618
http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=548519643
Nice pkrew.
When you gonna put the XT on phase change?
I don't suppose you'd consider running the CPU on air and putting the VC on the LS? It would be cool to see where the phase change helps the most. What kind of scores would you get at like 2660 on air with the card on the LS?
I have a cooler for the gpu, I haven't run it at that speed.
One of you guys should do a "TOPIC" on just mods for this board, it be a great help and save countless pages of reading for us mortals :)
BTW is this the "939 board of choice" at the moment?
it's a good choice , yes. ;)
Here's a fun one. Unfortunately it crapped out on CL right durring the big run. I need to find some better memory cooling.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7973506
Nice score phrew! if it just wasn't the CL crappage, you'd be well on your way. btw, what PSU are you using on this system?
I'm using an Antec TC 550
Your car low wasn't THAT bad. Your drago low wasn't much better. If you would have gotten a better car and drago low other scores may not have been as good. I've noticed sometimes when I get a super good car low that my car high is less, and same on drago. Sometimes when I get great car and drago scores my lobby sucks. I hate when that happens! The other day I had a 2k1 run with record everything, but it completely bombed on Nature. I was sick! Would probably have been in the neighborhood of 31.2k.:mad:Quote:
Originally posted by pkrew
Here's a fun one. Unfortunately it crapped out on CL right durring the big run. I need to find some better memory cooling.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7973506
Yeah, the best runs are the ones that die. No, it wasn't that bad, but a good run would have added around 200 points.
OPP-----> as you could see on this screenshot by halloween , FX53 939 don't need 2V to hit more than 3,2ghz :(
http://hallowen.freehosting.net/capture_017c.jpg
Maybe, but to run 3D it might.