ok going to try that tomorrow
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ok going to try that tomorrow
dab a spot of superglue (or epoxy - apply with pin or toothpick) on the laserlock, press a needle or razor blade against the exposed copper points, then put a good dot of conductive paint on top.
Should insure proper connection and keep the conductive material out of the laserlock and be easier than what we have been trying.
Actually I know OPP and I both did that...it didn't help. Did yours work that way? I don't recall reading that anywhere in the posts I have seen.Quote:
Originally posted by STEvil
dab a spot of superglue (or epoxy - apply with pin or toothpick) on the laserlock, press a needle or razor blade against the exposed copper points, then put a good dot of conductive paint on top.
Should insure proper connection and keep the conductive material out of the laserlock and be easier than what we have been trying.
If your card is good it will work. If not you're :banana: 'ed like the rest of us.:D
If I had one i'd try ;)
I was just going by what I used for locked palomino and XP processors that was easier than trying to paint them and such.
Us too but it's not the same thing as it turns out.Quote:
Originally posted by STEvil
If I had one i'd try ;)
I was just going by what I used for locked palomino and XP processors that was easier than trying to paint them and such.
i have made de mod , but i still need tot test here are the pictures
[img=200x200]http://www.voidyourwarranty.nl/images/projects/Red%20Darkness/vga/mods/mod%20stuff.JPG[/img]
[img=200x200]http://www.voidyourwarranty.nl/images/projects/Red%20Darkness/vga/mods/afplakken.JPG[/img]
[img=200x200]http://www.voidyourwarranty.nl/images/projects/Red%20Darkness/vga/mods/pin%20gekrast.JPG[/img]
[img=200x200]http://www.voidyourwarranty.nl/images/projects/Red%20Darkness/vga/mods/pins%20coverd.JPG[/img]
like the name if your site BioBlade, nice and appropriate
i have tested it , still 12 pipes , nu i have scratched the hole line between the 2 points and done the mod again , i am going to test it know ,
could i see the 16 pipes enabled @ x800pro or should i flash it to x800xt bios ?
Pipes should show immediately, but card will not function as an XT 100% until you flash the BIOS and reload the driver.Quote:
Originally posted by BioBlade
i have tested it , still 12 pipes , nu i have scratched the hole line between the 2 points and done the mod again , i am going to test it know ,
could i see the 16 pipes enabled @ x800pro or should i flash it to x800xt bios ?
i sure hope this will work, its a pitty that it doesnt work the most off the time... Maybe the pipes will only work if they all work(sounds vage i know), and if one doesnt work correctly maybe ati made it in a way that nuthin will go trough any of them. I think this because of the fact that that with the 9500 mod it did work every time, but sometimes the pipes were damaged, this hasn't occured yet right?? strange...
Maybe ati's production process hasnt matured enough, and only very little cards have these 16 working pipes.
Anyone tried to mod a PowerColor x800pro yet??
I hope it's the same as I am a proud owner of a new x800pro...
So can we get a list of the brands that are able to mod??
Oh well, 11,044 ain't bad for a 3.13Ghz P4/XMS3500/Max3 combo...
Cheers,
Minnyboy
mm i got the same problem like opptainer , still dropping back to 12 pipes , at least with the xt bios i got a slicht performance boost ,
i could overclock it to 565core en 590 on the mem with stock cooling :stick:
http://www.titiworld.com/Blueremy/X800.htm
Link is my guide korean language.
absolutely awesome pictorial guide.... just to bad I don't read Korean :(
C
I can't translate Korean into English.
I am finding person this job
i am sorry , i failed , got the same probs as optainer , but with the xt bios in it i got a oc inprovement :DQuote:
Originally posted by Stinger
bioblade have you done yours yet? I have a powercolor x800 in 1 or 2 days so I'm curious if your card worked out
with stock cooling i am doing 565core en 590 on the mem now :cool:
so at least i am still happy :toast:
beautiful guide but I can't read a thing and babelfish won't translate the page due to errors....
someone from the Netherlands succesfully did the mod on an Asus X800PRO
He doesn't have any pics of it, but posted a screenshot from ATI tool @ gathering.tweakers.net
http://www.heyz.nl/pics/ati.jpg
His 3DMark03 score increased from 8800 points to 11300 points
His card has a fillrate of 7254 so it must be a full XT
ah ok, now I got it.
seems like every card except powercolors x800pro can be modded!
Offtopic:
Quote:
Originally posted by BioBlade
mm i got the same problem like opptainer
uuhm innit oppainter, not optainer lol:DQuote:
got the same probs as optainer
so does it work or does it not? I've been hearing all sorts of things
yeah i was kinda thinking, xtremes finest... and there spelling his name wrong.Quote:
Originally posted by h0ok3r
Offtopic:
uuhm innit oppainter, not optainer lol:D
someone on OC_UK modded a powercolor x800pro.. http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/ check for yourself.. so i think all the cards have been modded at least once.Quote:
Originally posted by h0ok3r
ah ok, now I got it.
seems like every card except powercolors x800pro can be modded!
oh this is mind warping.
Seems that you either get a card that can be modded, or you don't. Driving me nuts, cause I would order a pro if i knew i could mod it to xt, but i would rather just buy an xt if my pro wount mod over, arg.
think alot of you will find the following article very helpful....
http://www.pcunleash.com/bbs/zboard....desc=asc&no=26
explains which cards can and cant be modded
From your site:Quote:
Originally posted by fr33ze
think alot of you will find the following article very helpful....
http://www.pcunleash.com/bbs/zboard....desc=asc&no=26
explains which cards can and cant be modded
"This is my code (HIS Excalibur X800Pro)
Line 1: 215RAACGA11F
Line 2: GA8993.5
Line 3: 0416AA
And mod works! so its not about GPU codes."
Can you answer me one question? Must you flash the bios to xt to unlock the 4 extra pipes. Ive heard that you had to, Ive heard that you dont have to. I have a powercolor with code 215RAACGA11F
GA8992.1
I tried the mod a few times with no success, however Ihavent flashed the bios to xt.
No, a BIOS flash is not necessary to enable the pipes, but it is necessary to get it to run properly with the driver. The pipes should show up without the BIOS being flashed.
r3b0rN;
I think what they mean't is that the flash gave them higher "DEFAULT" clocks, not that the card is able to be clocked higher. Most of the people who claimed this know next to nothing about overclocking. They could have overclocked their cards to the stock XT clocks without the BIOS flash.
http://www.pcunleash.com/bbs/zboard....emReview&no=26
The following link has been translated from a friend of mine.
lol, i'm pretty sure thats the link i posted on the previous pageQuote:
Originally posted by blueremy
http://www.pcunleash.com/bbs/zboard....emReview&no=26
The following link has been translated from a friend of mine.
I'm sorry, i did't know that link posted already.
Thank you :D
have any1 tried the softmod? http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthre...eadid=33763022
I tried the soft mod and it doesn't work. In fact, the drivers disabled fast writes in the SMARTGART section of the control panel and didn't allow me to change it back.
Soft Mod does NOT work.
Quote:
Originally posted by SynGroW
someone from the Netherlands succesfully did the mod on an Asus X800PRO
He doesn't have any pics of it, but posted a screenshot from ATI tool @ gathering.tweakers.net
http://www.heyz.nl/pics/ati.jpg
His 3DMark03 score increased from 8800 points to 11300 points
His card has a fillrate of 7254 so it must be a full XT
http://www.titiworld.com/Blueremy/fill.JPG
softmod seems to work http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthre...0&pagenumber=2
the softmod really work...i've talk to alot of frenchie who make it work ;)
but it still the same problem as a hardmod....if your card have broken pipe it will stay at 12 :(
I just did the hardest mod of all...hehe:banana3:
1st run with ghetto card clocks and 2T...
With approved drivers even...wow!
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=2627100
stormpc is your x800xt modded, or a real one? because i thought you had trouble modding your card.. did you get softmod or hardmod to work? if so which?
http://www.titiworld.com/Blueremy/2001se.JPG
2001se run X800XT bios default clock 525/573
StormPC, overclocked X800XT and only 70fps nature??
My X800Pro (ES) at default clock (472/499) gets 73.6FPS already. XT default @ 87FPS.
Sorry, mine is the real deal.Quote:
Originally posted by TyphooN
stormpc is your x800xt modded, or a real one? because i thought you had trouble modding your card.. did you get softmod or hardmod to work? if so which?
ok, well i am going to buy a real x800 xt because mod successes aren't very good. just waiting to get the money for it, just ordered my watercooling ;D
um, yeah. On a P4EE running at what? Your systems are fast and your efforts are always impressive, but most of your hardware is ES (at least the important parts like CPU and Video), so your system does not represent the norm. If you were to use a retail VC and CPU it would be more impressive and more meaningful to the rest of us. Your scores don't really apply to the rest of us because we can't get ES stuff.Quote:
Originally posted by macci
StormPC, overclocked X800XT and only 70fps nature??
My X800Pro (ES) at default clock (472/499) gets 73.6FPS already. XT default @ 87FPS.
Come on Macci, are you testing my knowledge of 2k3 or what?
Ok, how's this?
We both know P4s naturally run 2k3 (especially Nature and GT1) better than A64s which is the reason you used one on 2k3. We also both know A64s are more powerful CPUs which is why you used A64 on 2K1.
My particular chip is running stock at 2T which means I'm running with about 2730MBs bandwidth. You know Nature LOVES bandwidth I'm sure. Also, no tweaks and all software, hardware, services, anti-virus and anti-parasite programs running in the background. All of this must be considered as well.
I'm sure you already know this stuff so I'm wondering about the motivation behind the question. Are you testing me???:bounce:
Cheers!:toast:
StormPC 3DMark03 Mother Nature isn't really affected by CPU at all.
I don't really understand your post. He was pointing out your score is much lower than it should be, not even matching his score at default clocks.
So you believe Macci used a P4EE (instead of an A64) to get a lower score? He could have chosen any CPU he wanted and he chose the P4EE. No, he did it to get the highest score possible. You cant compare a stock retail rig to Macci's rig. The numbers mean nothing. He uses ES and tweaked everything (and a P4EE) and I'm showing stock numbers with no tweaks and a bad core that defaults to 2T. All I'm saying is he acted suprised. I just explained why he shouldn't be.Quote:
Originally posted by Soulburner
StormPC 3DMark03 Mother Nature isn't really affected by CPU at all.
I don't really understand your post. He was pointing out your score is much lower than it should be, not even matching his score at default clocks.
See, every 2k3 GT favors the high MHz/bandwidth and lower overall power of the P4, while 2k1 favors a more powerful CPU. There is a common misconception that CPU doesn't matter in 2k3. This is false. Even though CPU is less of a factor, it is still very important, and is the reason for the super high clocks on the ORB's top spots.
Of course he was pointing it out. My point is, why? Anybody that thinks a stock 3700+ with 2700MBs bandwidth would be able to compete with a P4EE in 2k3 is sadly mistaken. It goes without saying. ;)
just got another one X800Pro...it's a MSI RX800 PRO-TD256....i will try the 16 pipe mod one this one...hope i will get more change then i got with my Sapphire
http://sites.rapidus.net/maxbleau/MS...SI%20RX800.JPG
http://sites.rapidus.net/maxbleau/MS...SI%20RX800.JPG
http://sites.rapidus.net/maxbleau/MS...SI%20RX800.JPG
http://sites.rapidus.net/maxbleau/MS...SI%20RX800.JPG
There is no misconception here. The place where the CPU is going to shine is in GT1, not GT4 (Mother Nature). That is ALL GPU and shader power there.Quote:
Originally posted by StormPC
So you believe Macci used a P4EE (instead of an A64) to get a lower score? He could have chosen any CPU he wanted and he chose the P4EE. No, he did it to get the highest score possible. You cant compare a stock retail rig to Macci's rig. The numbers mean nothing. He uses ES and tweaked everything (and a P4EE) and I'm showing stock numbers with no tweaks and a bad core that defaults to 2T. All I'm saying is he acted suprised. I just explained why he shouldn't be.
See, every 2k3 GT favors the high MHz/bandwidth and lower overall power of the P4, while 2k1 favors a more powerful CPU. There is a common misconception that CPU doesn't matter in 2k3. This is false. Even though CPU is less of a factor, it is still very important, and is the reason for the super high clocks on the ORB's top spots.
Of course he was pointing it out. My point is, why? Anybody that thinks a stock 3700+ with 2700MBs bandwidth would be able to compete with a P4EE in 2k3 is sadly mistaken. It goes without saying. ;)
Then perhaps you'd like to tell me why YOU think Macci uses a P4EE for 2k3 instead of an A64 (as in 2k1)???Quote:
Originally posted by Soulburner
There is no misconception here. The place where the CPU is going to shine is in GT1, not GT4 (Mother Nature). That is ALL GPU and shader power there.
Maybe because the EE outscores the A64 in that benchmark. I thought you already knew this :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by StormPC
Then perhaps you'd like to tell me why YOU think Macci uses a P4EE for 2k3 instead of an A64 (as in 2k1)???
How could it do that if CPU doesn't matter?Quote:
Originally posted by Soulburner
Maybe because the EE outscores the A64 in that benchmark. I thought you already knew this :rolleyes:
Who said CPU doesn't matter?Quote:
Originally posted by StormPC
How could it do that if CPU doesn't matter?
Where are you going with this?
You don't see how these don't exactly jive with your statement:Quote:
Originally posted by Soulburner
Who said CPU doesn't matter?
Where are you going with this?
"Mother Nature isn't really affected by CPU at all."
"much lower than it should be, not even matching his score at default clocks."
"That is ALL GPU and shader power there."
"Maybe because the EE outscores the A64 in that benchmark."
With all due respect, it takes 4 game tests to score well in 2k3, not 1. Whatever...we've beaten this horse enough I guess.
Maybe I need a pencil mod???:bounce:
Ok then maybe you didn't know this...which is fine.
GT1 is a DX7 test, which relies heavily on CPU speed much as 3DMark2001 does.
GT2-3 your CPU has a very minimal impact on.
GT4 your CPU has almost no impact on.
Macci knows his stuff, he wouldn't say something like that unless he really meant it (and yes even after taking into account your CPU).
There is always a place where programs are CPU power laking and GPU power laking...Quote:
Originally posted by StormPC
With all due respect, it takes 4 game tests to score well in 2k3, not 1. Whatever...we've beaten this horse enough I guess.
Maybe I need a pencil mod???:bounce:
In 3dmark03 with R3XX series it was GPU laking... Now with R4XX its CPU laking...
I know that but you have to realize that due to differences in the P4 and A64 architectures sometimes less is more.Quote:
Originally posted by Soulburner
Ok then maybe you didn't know this...which is fine.
GT1 is a DX7 test, which relies heavily on CPU speed much as 3DMark2001 does.
GT2-3 your CPU has a very minimal impact on.
GT4 your CPU has almost no impact on.
Macci knows his stuff, he wouldn't say something like that unless he really meant it (and yes even after taking into account your CPU).
I know what it is. He's using modified DNA CATs and I'm using stock drivers.
Anyway, what he gets is not very meaningful because he is the tweaking god!:D
FOR GOD's SAKE, I JUST GOT THE CARD LAST NIGHT!!!
Those were my first runs! Forgive me...;)
MINI:
Good point dude. CPU makes more of a difference with the new cards than it used to because they ARE now the bottleneck!:thumbsup:
The mod failed on a Club3D I have atm. Some data for experience:
http://www.techsweden.org/marquzz/x800/stepping.jpg
http://www.techsweden.org/marquzz/x800/beforemod.jpg
http://www.techsweden.org/marquzz/x800/aftermod.jpg
marquzz, try it again. it looks like your compound is touching the dot in the middle just a bit. remove it and see if you can get a perfect line
Soul = patience++
i got the same stepping on my MSI and doesn't workQuote:
Originally posted by Marquzz
The mod failed on a Club3D I have atm. Some data for experience:
http://www.techsweden.org/marquzz/x800/stepping.jpg
http://www.techsweden.org/marquzz/x800/beforemod.jpg
http://www.techsweden.org/marquzz/x800/aftermod.jpg
Could someone please comment on what's posted on the front page:
ATI responds quickly
I spoke with ATI and confirmed that the mod works but the boards will not survive very long. We should expect to see reports of failed attempts and boards that die. . .
I imagine this could only be because of the increased clock rates (which seems always the official line with clocks), but could the procedure of the pipe-mod, even assuming it's done correctly, shorten lifespan in your opinion?
probably just a scare tactic so that people will stop modding and getting more for they pay for
For sure. I think they also want to discourage the mod so they don't have to deal with all the RMAs from people who messed up while doing it.Quote:
Originally posted by SuperDude
probably just a scare tactic so that people will stop modding and getting more for they pay for
lol stormpc this is why i wouldnt want to be the first to get a beasty card as it just came out (in this case the x800xt) people expect you to be getting the best results on your first run, when you havnt even formatted yet and your just mucking around with it. anyways, have u found out how to switch to 1T? or are you going to get another 1 later?
I don't think anyone expected anything from him, macci was only making a valid point about his score being low. Considering his card is overclocked and is behind a stock X800Pro in performance, it may be a cause for concern.
The option is in the BIOS when the 3700+ is installed but not the 3400+, I'm guessing because it defaults to 1T. The problem is that it doesn't actually work. Have not determined whether it's a bug or whether my hardware is faulty.Quote:
Originally posted by r3b0rN
lol stormpc this is why i wouldnt want to be the first to get a beasty card as it just came out (in this case the x800xt) people expect you to be getting the best results on your first run, when you havnt even formatted yet and your just mucking around with it. anyways, have u found out how to switch to 1T? or are you going to get another 1 later?
Soulburner,
I thought I explained the low score pretty well. Macci was doing his Jason impression, that's all. Can we move on yet?:lol:
I think its all in the CODE (3rd Line), example if lets say a card with code GA8999.1 was successful then ALL cards with the same code should work, it has nothing to do with the last digit example GAXXXX.1 nor the BBA nor the brand itself.Ofcourse this isnt 100% right but im willing to bet on it.
I got the Sapphire X800PRO & i did the mod at least 5 times to make sure but still with no luck, the steppings on the card are as follows :
http://www.tbreak.com/naser/images/sony.jpg
215RAACGA11F
GB7293.1
0420AA
you can also see its week 20 of 2004 which is one of the newest cores.
Now i went ahead & bought another card made by GeCUBE & when i opened it, it showed this steppings:
215RAACGA11F
GA8999.1
0416AA
http://www.tbreak.com/naser/images/small8999nm.jpg
I havent got to modding it yet but if my theory is right it should work.,since most people with the same code were successfull.
I'll let you guys know how it goes hopefully by tonight.
EDIT: Added images of both cards.
Interesting info there Naser. Let us know how the CeCube card works :)
StormPC, sorry the post I made was a bit evil :D
BUT the default Nature scores I mentioned there were both ran on my everyday PC which has a normal P4C800-E + 3.0C NW CPU combo in it. So it shouldn't be the reason for the fairly high difference we have in the Nature fps.
ATI-Drivers/D3D settings prolly make a difference, etc but it could be a chipset/agp/driver -problem too. 70 vs. 87 is quite a difference considering that we are basically useing the same hardware (and default clocks).
If you get the Nature FPS tweaked to the optimal level it'll give quite a nice boost for the score too :)
OT:
@ Marquzz and Naser: What digicams are you guys using? These are very detailed shots! I am about to buy a digicam myself and am looking for high quality stuff. So pls be kind and tell me ... ;-)
any computer owned by you automatically performs 10% better than any1 else with the exact same hardware :D :p:Quote:
Originally posted by macci
Interesting info there Naser. Let us know how the CeCube card works :)
StormPC, sorry the post I made was a bit evil :D
BUT the default Nature scores I mentioned there were both ran on my everyday PC which has a normal P4C800-E + 3.0C NW CPU combo in it. So it shouldn't be the reason for the fairly high difference we have in the Nature fps.
ATI-Drivers/D3D settings prolly make a difference, etc but it could be a chipset/agp/driver -problem too. 70 vs. 87 is quite a difference considering that we are basically useing the same hardware (and default clocks).
If you get the Nature FPS tweaked to the optimal level it'll give quite a nice boost for the score too :)
Yes, already did it 3 times, as you can see on this picture it's nothing wrong with the mod itselfQuote:
Originally posted by SuperDude
marquzz, try it again. it looks like your compound is touching the dot in the middle just a bit. remove it and see if you can get a perfect line
http://www.techsweden.org/marquzz/x800/2ndattempt.jpg
Using a Nikon 775 for those who wonder, Nikon has one of the best makros there is.
The first picture was using the Fujifilm FinePix 6800ZQuote:
Originally posted by Bastieeeh
OT:
@ Marquzz and Naser: What digicams are you guys using? These are very detailed shots! I am about to buy a digicam myself and am looking for high quality stuff. So pls be kind and tell me ... ;-)
the next one is with the SONY DSC-F828 which i dont not much about but definatly much better then the finepix.
IMO, Nasers conclusion is the only one that can be true. Its either what Naser said, or that it is just pure luck to get a card that mods, which i dont believe.
Works on the same principle as a TypeR stickerQuote:
Originally posted by r3b0rN
any computer owned by you automatically performs 10% better than any1 else with the exact same hardware :D :p:
here is my mod :
http://www.voidyourwarranty.nl/image...d%20netjes.JPG
and the card cooling modded but not tested, because my chiller is not working..
http://www.voidyourwarranty.nl/image...20voorkant.JPG
http://www.voidyourwarranty.nl/image...achterkant.JPG
http://www.voidyourwarranty.nl/image...20wcblokje.JPG
http://www.voidyourwarranty.nl/image...oxt%20blok.JPG
:toast:
http://img2.imgspot.com/u/04/157/08/800Pins_5.jpg
Someone over at overclockers.co.uk thinks this might work, as it will connect ALL pipes together... anyone that has failed before want to give it a shot ?
Naser, Chris_UKs card was a:
GA8999.1
0416AA
Yeah thats what I thought too. I so hope this mod works on my sapphire!Quote:
Originally posted by SuperDude
probably just a scare tactic so that people will stop modding and getting more for they pay for
Almost here! It's on the fedex truck right now :banana:
Is that that conductive paint people have been talking about? Looks like a putty of some sort. I just want to know what the best thing is to get.Quote:
Originally posted by Marquzz
Yes, already did it 3 times, as you can see on this picture it's nothing wrong with the mod itself
http://www.techsweden.org/marquzz/x800/2ndattempt.jpg
Using a Nikon 775 for those who wonder, Nikon has one of the best makros there is.
Naser have you already tried modding the 2nd card? Would be nice to let us now your results. I think your theory really could be true... Looking forward to posting some of your benches (have you made any?).
Good luck!
Alright guys its fairly safe to conclude that if you have a card with a 3rd line code that has been successfully modded then it should work.
I just modded myGeCube GA8999.1 and heres what i got compared to my modded Sapphire.I also ran some quick benchmarks and games to see the diffrence with the extra pipeline.
Remmber both cards are running defualt driver setting & speed.
GeCube-GA8999.1 & 3dmark01-03
http://www.tbreak.com/naser/images/GA89991.jpg
http://www.tbreak.com/naser/images/3d03-16.jpg
http://www.tbreak.com/naser/images/3d01-16.jpg
Sapphire-GB7293.1 & 3dmark01-03
http://www.tbreak.com/naser/images/3d03-12.jpg
http://www.tbreak.com/naser/images/3d01-12.jpg
FarCry
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1024x768 FPS: 71.06 (12) vs FPS:72.22 (16)
1280x1024 FPS: 67.23 (12) vs FPS:70.35 (16)
Doom3 Beta2
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1024x768 FPS: 50.4 (12) vs FPS:57.9 (16)
1280x1024 FPS: 34.7 (12) vs FPS:40.0 (16)
ColinMcRae-4
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1024x768 FPS: 72.36 (12) vs FPS:75.88 (16)
So it might be a good idea to start a thread with all the successful codes.
Great job! Finally there's some information about the flashability of the X800 Pro.
It would be really a good idea to start a thread with those codes...
Greetz
and again it is a 0416aa core that's finished....
almost al the card with a sucesful mod have that code...
Hey Macci, it's all in fun dude. But there you go again pretending not to know why they were so low.;)Quote:
Originally posted by macci
Interesting info there Naser. Let us know how the CeCube card works :)
StormPC, sorry the post I made was a bit evil :D
BUT the default Nature scores I mentioned there were both ran on my everyday PC which has a normal P4C800-E + 3.0C NW CPU combo in it. So it shouldn't be the reason for the fairly high difference we have in the Nature fps.
ATI-Drivers/D3D settings prolly make a difference, etc but it could be a chipset/agp/driver -problem too. 70 vs. 87 is quite a difference considering that we are basically useing the same hardware (and default clocks).
If you get the Nature FPS tweaked to the optimal level it'll give quite a nice boost for the score too :)
You may very well be correct about the chipset/agp/driver problem, but between running standard CAT 4.5s and 2700MHz memory bandwidth on a single channel 754, that alone makes a huge difference. Since these cards are CPU limited to the max, and since P4s (even non-emergency editions) do really well on GT1 and GT4 this is also a consideration.
And seriously, from 520-530MHz on the core barely qualifies as an overclock.:lol:
It will take me a little time but with a pencil mod and some tweaking 30k on air on 2k1 should be possible.
Any thoughts on that?
Also, any thoughts on getting a 3700+ CG that keeps defaulting to 2T command rate to run 1T? This F1 BIOS sucks!!!
HEAR THAT GIGABYTE??? FIX THE BIOS ON THE K8NS PRO AND YOU WILL RULE THE A64 754 PIN UNIVERSE!!! CPU multis and a working 2T/1T option please!!!
GREAT JOB NASER!!!:toast:
0416AA seems to be the winner, one 0411AA has been done, but that was an ES
We have a thread right here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...986#post465986 :)
Hey everyone
My card has the number: GA9001.1 on it. This worked fine. Shows 16 pipelines now :) I have one problem. When I flash it with X800XT bios, and get in to windows, ATi Tool shows it at X800XT speeds, but Windows recognices it as a X800Pro. Is this just a problem I'm having, or do you all have it. Haven't benched it much yet, but after the mod I got a new record in 3dmark2003 at default X800XT speeds. 13000. The old one was at X800Pro@570/590 and was just over 12000
I like this mod :) To bad it only works on some cards
Thats a normal problem :)
What is the line on the core below GA9001.1 ? Thx...
http://www.titiworld.com/Blueremy/46-1.JPG
Catalyst 4.6mod driver Installed
ATI WDM Rage Theater video driver installed.
Hmmm, guess it should show as XT, maybe there is something else needed, what driver are you using ?
this makes me wanna save to get a moddable x800 pro.
Probably a combination of the way he flashed the BIOS, the way he loaded the driver and the actual driver used.
From what I have read, it seems that cards that have 0416AA and GAXXX9.1 and GAXXX1.1 have worked. It seems that these to "steppings" seem to be the moddable card ATM. I went through and read each post in this thread and checked out most of the links and that is what I have concluded.
So basically, if you have a card with 0416AA and either GAXXX9.1 and GAXXX1.1 in the "stepping", then you have a chance at getting the extra pipes.
Just my view on this mod for the X800Pro.
yeah brian thats how i think too lol
Sorry to be so sceptical once again, but why are Naser's score's improving by so little:
3DMark2003: 10 798 9987
282.9 274.7 GT1
77.4 69.1 GT2
64.6 58.2 GT3
73.1 69.4 GT4
2498 2353
6178 5003 Multi-Texture Fillrate
34.8 34.6
98.8 93.5 PixelShader2
49.1 43.6 Ragtroll
3DMark2001
23494 23229
313 314.8
97.4 98.7
439.6 434.1
228.8 229.1
281.9 282.4
128.4 127.8
203 190.3 Game 4 - Nature
2954 2733
7217 5506 Multi-texture fillrate
133.8 132.7
35.4 35.3
226 226
406.9 376.6 DOT3 Bump
It seems to me that this is more of an optimization for heavy texturing. Perhaps this hard-mod converts the card to something like FireGL. Or just makes multi-texturing more efficient by better caching. But it's odd to see PixelShader 2.0 (for example) have such small increase wheras the multi-texture score is so much higher. Perhaps those additional 4 pipelines don't have any PS, and are just texture units?? This would certainly explain how ATI got away with such a low transistor count. Performance would still be higher because of additional texture units but just not as much as if they were whole pipelines. Perhaps that's what they meant when they called them extreme pipelines...
any explanations/suggestions
I know most of the scores here shouldn't change.
LostCircuits has moded a Asus x800 to XT
http://www.lostcircuits.com/video/asus_x800/
Looks liked he did the mod, then flashed the BIOS, then loaded the drivers.
Any way he has a nice compario of before and after....worth a read at least.
we need your help guys...
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...158#post472158
Sapphires X800PRO with vivo come with 1,6ns chips and NO laser cut.. flashing bios doesnt activate 16 pipes and painting bridge same :/
Greetings
here are my scores :
x800pro @ 12pipe(mod failure 4 times)
3dmark 2001se:
http://www.voidyourwarranty.nl/image.../2k1%20new.JPG
3dmark 2003 :
http://www.voidyourwarranty.nl/image.../2k3%20new.JPG
aquamark 3 :
http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_vie...run=1017614161
is that good ?
anybody for who the hardmod is working - did your device id change? did it change without bios flash?
very good ;)Quote:
Originally posted by BioBlade
here are my scores :
x800pro @ 12pipe(mod failure 4 times)
3dmark 2001se:
http://www.voidyourwarranty.nl/image.../2k1%20new.JPG
3dmark 2003 :
http://www.voidyourwarranty.nl/image.../2k3%20new.JPG
aquamark 3 :
http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_vie...run=1017614161
is that good ?
i wish i get 22k :p: