Me i'm injoying the gig of ram for once!
I think its all just bios related and they'll get it right sooner or later.
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Me i'm injoying the gig of ram for once!
I think its all just bios related and they'll get it right sooner or later.
i have read most of the thread ....but i have a Epox 8KDA3+ on the way ...
and i was just wondering how all you 8KDA3+ owners are getting around the stock NB heatsink. You all know it has no mounting holes around the NB and i won't settle for that little tin sink ...so how do you strap on a nice fat heatsink /w fan? pix wud be nice.
I never bothered to change it since i'm just testing out if i'm gona keep the board.
If ya want to use something bigger i believe the only other methed would be to use some artic silver epoxy. Though i wouldnt advise using some huge heatsink with alot of weight since it might end up taking the whole chipset off in a case.
Small Al cpu heatsink would be fine to epoxy on. I realy wish they had included holes though...realy makes things easier.
the Epox socket 939 board has the exact same layout as the 8kDA3+ ...BUT it does have mounting holes (if my eyes seeing straight).
look for a pic of the 939 board here (just scroll down):
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do i smell a drilling mod to make mounting holes :D :toast:
the holes arn't being used on that board tho :confused: ...and are spread wide apart.
Yeah, they are realy far apart. You could fit a large cpu hsf between them. That's annoying, they FORGOT to put them in the 754 board...Don't know about that drilling mod either :D
eclypse, holy crap, I just noticed your avatar...that is the most kickass shirt I have ever seen. Where can I get one of those? God damn I need one of them. I get 20 calls a day with people asking me computer questions. You would think I could start a business and make some good money, but everyone that calls me is too cheap to buy reliable pc components and that is the reason they are calling me in the first place.
lol! Holy crap do i have a memory! I cant believe the site name came right to mind.. I've had that avitar for a few years now and have been asked about it only twice that i can remember hehe.Quote:
eclypse, holy crap, I just noticed your avatar...that is the most kickass shirt I have ever seen. Where can I get one of those? God damn I need one of them. I get 20 calls a day with people asking me computer questions. You would think I could start a business and make some good money, but everyone that calls me is too cheap to buy reliable pc components and that is the reason they are calling me in the first place. [/B]
Here it is! No, i will not fix your computer!
You can find that and more at www.thinkgeek.com
Its funny i have'nt bought myself that shirt yet! I know the feeling man.. All it takes is to fix one realitives computer and before ya know it ya get calls all the time from so in so's neighbors friend of a friends.. Its really does suck cuase they all freakin Joe 6 packs with no clue.
I am placing my order right now!!!! I can't wait to be at someone's house, and have them ask me to fix their computer while i am wearing that shirt!
http://home.comcast.net/~james.garcia/cluboc/epox.jpgQuote:
Originally posted by a5h
i have read most of the thread ....but i have a Epox 8KDA3+ on the way ...
and i was just wondering how all you 8KDA3+ owners are getting around the stock NB heatsink. You all know it has no mounting holes around the NB and i won't settle for that little tin sink ...so how do you strap on a nice fat heatsink /w fan? pix wud be nice.
Epoxied on with artic silver thermal epoxy.
thats a beefy sink morbidj :toast:
The two mounting holes for the mobo align themselves right down the center of the northbridge. Someone creative(unlike myself) could probably figure something out using those too. ;)
I wonder how well a zip tie would work.Quote:
Originally posted by Jeff
The two mounting holes for the mobo align themselves right down the center of the northbridge. Someone creative(unlike myself) could probably figure something out using those too. ;)
i get epox tomorrow, lets see what i can do with that :D
i drive some test C02 with K8N and 3400+
i got Superpi 8m : 5:23 and 1m : 29sec
lets see how epox works with that prosessor :toast:
I have a feeling this board needs a chipset mod as well.. Anyone?
Tell me what is the best bios for that mobo, i test newest bios from epox site and it really SUX, then i but first one back
:confused:
Hi guys I'm a total soldering nOOb, but looking at the pics @ voidyourwarranty.nl the spots to solder look pretty straight forward except for the vCore one. I can see where one of the wires is soldered to the chip and goes to the pot, but then there is another wire that comes off the pot and goes somewhere else but you can't see where in the pic.
Anybody happen to know where that other wire goes, or is this just one of those things that you're supposed to know if you actually know something about electronics (I don't, I just want to see how high I can get my chip)?
Any other tips on modding this motherboard would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
It doesnt need a mod it tracks automatically.Quote:
Originally posted by Verdict
i get epox tomorrow, lets see what i can do with that :D
i drive some test C02 with K8N and 3400+
i got Superpi 8m : 5:23 and 1m : 29sec
lets see how epox works with that prosessor :toast:
I like 6-14 bios the most.
The other wire goes to a grounding location such as a mounting hole.
The other wire goes to ground.. So one end goes to the chip and the other goes to ground.. Thats usually the norm.Quote:
Originally posted by mesyn191
Hi guys I'm a total soldering nOOb, but looking at the pics @ voidyourwarranty.nl the spots to solder look pretty straight forward except for the vCore one. I can see where one of the wires is soldered to the chip and goes to the pot, but then there is another wire that comes off the pot and goes somewhere else but you can't see where in the pic.
Anybody happen to know where that other wire goes, or is this just one of those things that you're supposed to know if you actually know something about electronics (I don't, I just want to see how high I can get my chip)?
Any other tips on modding this motherboard would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Ground can be a screw hole or fan header.. I like to use the ground pin on a fan header using a fan header plug.. The black wire on the fan header plug is ground BTW.. This way if something goes wrong or your going to flash the bios or dont want to leave alot of evidence of a mod done you can just unplug it and it will dissable to mod..
Just find a old fan that has the female 3 prong header.. Cut it off and splice the black wire to the wire your going to use on the VR as ground and plug it in and your good to go.
Just make sure not to turn the vr too fast when your in the bios or your blow either the CPU (vcore mod) or the memory + CPU (vdimm mod)
I like to make the adjustment with the system turned off.. Also dont unplug the mod ofcourse while the system is runing hehe.
Good luck!
and i can find that bios from ?????????
Here ya go :)
LINK
thanx :toast:Quote:
Originally posted by Verdict
and i can find that bios from ?????????
eclypse: thanks for the help, now I just gotta get those pots and practice soldering on some junk I have lying around the house.
PS: you can get those pots from Radio Shack right? Or would I have to order them online?
You can try radio shack but mine dont like to stock the right ones that are needed like the 50K.. Just mainly 1k-10K.
The 15 turn long blue 1/4 watt 50K is best.. Just make sure to first set the vr to 50k "MAX" before hooking it up. THat way theres no resistance on it and its like having it turned off so you dont over due it on first power up.. Then i guess while your in the bios turn it very smooth and slowly till ya get it right where ya want.
Though i'm telling ya to make sure the vcore is level before you do so.. this board is crazy sometimes where you can set it to 1.5v and it can end up at 1.3v on next boot so.. make sure its at whatever ya set it at on next boot before you start adjusting the vr.. or ya right the prob of haing the voltage really jumping 0.2+ on ya on the following cold boot.
Oh heh.. yeah if ya want the good 50K vr buy them online at http://www.circuitspecialists.com/level.itml/icOid/6945
Hey thanks for the link, that makes things much easier.
Though i'm telling ya to make sure the vcore is level before you do so.. this board is crazy sometimes where you can set it to 1.5v and it can end up at 1.3v on next boot so.. make sure its at whatever ya set it at on next boot before you start adjusting the vr.. or ya right the prob of haing the voltage really jumping 0.2+ on ya on the following cold boot.
I seem to be one of the lucky ones and have a motherboard where the motherboard doesn't vary that much, only by about -/+ .1 or so. Of course it could also be like that because I've overvolted my +3.3v, +5v, and +12v lines (I have a Antec Tru Control 550w PSU) I really wouldn't know for sure though. I would set the voltage to the lowest possible in the BIOS before starting to use the pot though right?
Another probably stupid question for you:
I can't really tell in most of the pics as most of them aren't closeups, but when soldering the wire to one of the chips would you first desolder the post that you wanted, lift it up off the motherboard and then solder the wire to it or can it still be attached to the wire and the motherboard at the same time?
Thanks for the help man:banana: :banana: :banana: !
just solder directly to the leg ;) no need to desolder anything.Quote:
I can't really tell in most of the pics as most of them aren't closeups, but when soldering the wire to one of the chips would you first desolder the post that you wanted, lift it up off the motherboard and then solder the wire to it or can it still be attached to the wire and the motherboard at the same time?
Lo, I only scanned the thread, but did you get your Mobile going on this mobo?Quote:
Originally posted by Jeff
The two mounting holes for the mobo align themselves right down the center of the northbridge. Someone creative(unlike myself) could probably figure something out using those too. ;)
Just wondered as I just booted mine :D
Cheers
You just booted your mobile? As far as I know your the only person that may be successful with this board and a mobile, Jeff posted that his was incompatable and he sold off his mobile. Another fella posted also that his incompatable. Please list your details such as your board revision, Processor type and model #, and bios revision.
I could get it working if I used a desktop chip to set it the multiplier. "Auto" wouldn't work for me and didn't allow my setup to get past the "C9" BIOS code.
The bummer for me happened when I had the mobile running and I pushed too hard. The BIOS would reset and I'd have to swap back my desktop CPU to get the mobile working again. That's just not fun when your trying to have fun. ;)
Lo, mines ok, well had to vmod the vcore because it defaulted to high multi/low vcore = x9/ 0.9v. Volt mod to 1.3v and voila boots.
Only problem so far is I can't get passed 270 FSB, the PCI doesn't seem to be locked ? I thought the Epox had PCI lock?
Edit, this board is weird :(
Cheers
Lo, my motherboard is v1.0, not sure on the chip, it's alittle tied up atm :)
I did the same on a K8NNXP, just had to mod the vcore before it would boot. I posted a thread in the vapochill forum.
http://forum.vapochill.com/showthread.php?threadid=7052
Cheers
Well goto the 300 barrier, it seems to be stable, 1 more mhz and it locks.
Does anyone know wich mosfet i can read the Vcore?
The 2 mosfets aroud the ATX connec, gives me strange vcore.
Lo, I measure mine on one of the coils. The leg nearest the I/O panel. Top left, can't miss them.
Cheers
thxn, now ive got better measering. 1.59v instead of 1.48vQuote:
Originally posted by Bulldog20
Lo, I measure mine on one of the coils. The leg nearest the I/O panel. Top left, can't miss them.
Cheers
This only cause i picked another ground (probe).
I picked a molex 4 pin for getting my ground. There are 2 black. (GND) Two ground give me 2 different measering.
Why...
wait so did it not boot initially and did boot with a vcore mod????Quote:
Originally posted by Bulldog20
Lo, mines ok, well had to vmod the vcore because it defaulted to high multi/low vcore = x9/ 0.9v. Volt mod to 1.3v and voila boots.
Only problem so far is I can't get passed 270 FSB, the PCI doesn't seem to be locked ? I thought the Epox had PCI lock?
Edit, this board is weird :(
Cheers
or it booted out of the box except with 0.9v vcore????
how come this guy can get mobiles working and no one else can???
Yes m8, just a vcore mod. So out of the box with a vcore mod. I posted this on my forum weeks ago.
"how come this guy can get mobiles working and no one else can?? "
What does that mean? Not sure if there is a complement hidden in there somewhere :) I have been clocking for a little while ;)
Cheers
When I measure there, I get 1.3V when it's set to 1.7 in the BIOS. That can't be good.Quote:
Originally posted by Bulldog20
Lo, I measure mine on one of the coils. The leg nearest the I/O panel. Top left, can't miss them.
Cheers
Lo, a yes it works here from that point, either bios adjustment or pot.
Cheers
Do these mod's work on the J version as well instead of the +?
YES
COOl thank's I guess I will have to read this whole thread when I get my board LOL
So is THIS still the best bios floating around??
And where are people getting this 1:1 FSB/DRAM in cpu-z from?? All I get is "CPU/#".
Just a thanks for the vcore/vdimm mods. Have not done the vcore yet however the vdimm mod along with 6/14 flash changed the board dramatically for me. RBX along with 3.1v on ram and she will run to 2727 primed. Will boot and do some light benching at 2750 (cpugen is overvolting to 1.85v under load). Used 10kvr on vdimm. SuperPi 1 meg is 33 seconds, 2 meg 1 min 16 secs. and 6800gt w/ultra flash is doing 28,100 (27,100 without). Chip is 3000+ Newcastle. 9 x 303 at (166) 2,2,2,5 1T 4x. Vdimm is a good mod. Ran the 320w tec past DD on a maze 2-1 and they think on the 1/4 inch plate and 1/2 nipples the block should handle 10v. Will be giving it a go along with the vcore mod and dual rads in cooling box. 2.8Ghz should be achievable, now as for 2.9Ghz.....that is another story.
if the # in CPU/# is the multi that ur running then youre in 1:1, if its 2 higher ur in 183, or 166 which is like 5:4 or something i thinkQuote:
Originally posted by Jade
So is THIS still the best bios floating around??
And where are people getting this 1:1 FSB/DRAM in cpu-z from?? All I get is "CPU/#".
Hmmm, I cant get mine to 1:1. THe lowest it goes to is cpu/10....when my multi is 8x. If I raise my multi the cpu/# just goes up! >_<
These a64s confuse the crap outta me. The more I read about them the more I am lost.
Can someone takes some pic's of there mod's so I can have something to go by the one's on the 1st page have seemed to stop working?
Jonspd
Heres the origonal pic of the Vcore mod.. I believe the line you see goes from that leg to a 20 or 50 Vr then to ground.
I'll look for the vdimm on the other computer in a few mins. Playin DOOM 3 on it now :) Damn whata game baby!
Haha, I know how you feel. I love that it explains why there is no duct tape for everyone asking "why can't you duct tape the light to thegun"Quote:
Originally posted by eclypse
I'll look for the vdimm on the other computer in a few mins. Playin DOOM 3 on it now :) Damn whata game baby!
Heres the other pics of the VDIMM.. Just encase you cant reach the site hosting them cause they seem to work for me.
Another shot of the VDIMM completed.
And the last..
U can use either a 50K 20K or 10K VR if your good.. I just used whatever i had which was a 50K.
Thank's very much now I just gotta wait on the board :D
Has anyone used a 20K VR for the vcore is so what where the result's I can find any 50K vr's around here so I'am S>O>L unless I can use say 2-3 10k in line making a 20k or 30k vr. Or if someone could use a 20k and tell me what there setting in bios and output was that would be great.
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hi
just got one a couple of days ago
but the vdimm issue is very annoying
that is, sometimes, the vdimm will stay @ 2.65v no matter what volt is set in the bios, any suggestions? ive flashed to the 0716 bios already
Victor
I bougt one. Now i'm waiting it to come.... can't wait :D
Damn simple v-mod's though..
I cant remember exactly whats its called now since i dont have the replacement board yet, but change the setting for system performance back to normal.. That will up the VDIMM .1Quote:
Originally posted by Victorshen
:(
hi
just got one a couple of days ago
but the vdimm issue is very annoying
that is, sometimes, the vdimm will stay @ 2.65v no matter what volt is set in the bios, any suggestions? ive flashed to the 0716 bios already
Victor
The voltmods are great!
my twinmos winbond bh-5 are going at 270 ddr 2-2-2-5-1 primestabel 24h.
now i need some cpu-cooling :P
;)Quote:
Originally posted by eclypse
I cant remember exactly whats its called now since i dont have the replacement board yet, but change the setting for system performance back to normal.. That will up the VDIMM .1
thanks m8
it helps
also, i find out that with 0716 bios, when MP adjustment is enabled, vcore drop to 1.3x v when set 1.55v, and even if ya disable the MP adjustment later, a clear of CMOS is need to get vcore to normal, does anyone else have such a experience?:(
Victor
Yes this is a common peob with this board.. I dont think anyones figured out yet why it happends when it does. But if it does just pull the power plug and flip the power on button a few times, plug it back in and power up.. If it still does it then just cold boot a few times till its normal.. Thats one thing that bothered the hell outa me and i believe i only experianced that prob with bios later then 5-14.Quote:
Originally posted by Victorshen
;)
thanks m8
it helps
also, i find out that with 0716 bios, when MP adjustment is enabled, vcore drop to 1.3x v when set 1.55v, and even if ya disable the MP adjustment later, a clear of CMOS is need to get vcore to normal, does anyone else have such a experience?:(
Victor
Anyone?Quote:
Originally posted by jonspd
Has anyone used a 20K VR for the vcore is so what where the result's I can find any 50K vr's around here so I'am S>O>L unless I can use say 2-3 10k in line making a 20k or 30k vr. Or if someone could use a 20k and tell me what there setting in bios and output was that would be great.
I dont have a 50K VR but do have 2 10k VR's so I really need to now if I set bios to 1.55 if a 20K vr would work.
What is the correct way to measure (with a multimeter) to make sure im getting the max resistence so i dont fry anything using a 10k pot when doing the vdimm mod? Do I solder everthing down first and measure?
Also once everthing is complete, can I turn the knob to get higher volts when the comp is running and what points on the mobo would i use to check the vdimm voltage when the comp is on? anyone have pics?
As you can tell im a vmod noob and any help would be greatly appreciated.
Solder the wires on the VR.. Solder one side to the chip leg. Then test the connection with the MM set to ohms. Make sure its higher then 10 ohms for the setting on the MM.. Usually like 20 ohms.. Anyways, hold one prob on the lose wire on the VR then connect the other prob to ground on the board. U should get a reading.. Turn the VR to max so you'll get a 10K reading or close.Quote:
Originally posted by dabie
What is the correct way to measure (with a multimeter) to make sure im getting the max resistence so i dont fry anything using a 10k pot when doing the vdimm mod? Do I solder everthing down first and measure?
Also once everthing is complete, can I turn the knob to get higher volts when the comp is running and what points on the mobo would i use to check the vdimm voltage when the comp is on? anyone have pics?
As you can tell im a vmod noob and any help would be greatly appreciated.
You always want to start out with the vr maxed.. That way when you first boot everything should read as if theres nothing modded..
Oh first thing make sure before you set this mod up to set the vdimm to the minumum and save it.. THat way your safe just incase. You wouldnt want to power up and have the VR set wrong and fry something.
Oh a good thing to use for the ground connection would be a fan header 3 prong plug.. Fine an old fan you dont use and cut the plug off leaving enough wire on it to connect the vr.. The black wire on the plug is ground.. Yank the other 2 out to be safe.
Doing the above is a good way to dissable the mod if something goes wrong..
Oh.. I dont know if it will be a good idea using a 10K for the vdimm.. If anything you should use 2 10K VRs together or a 20K insted.
If you have one of those 15 turn VR's then its safe to adjust it while powered up.. Use the reading in the bios when adjusting or hit the "Pause/Break" key durring post where it shows the voltage readings at the bottom of the screen.. That way it will just hold there and the readings are still working and then ya dont have to enter the bios.
Turn the VR really slow and steddy. Turn it too fast or jerk it up or down and ya risk blowing something up.. usually the ram.. You'll hear a POP!
Though you should be fine and safe to adjust with the 15 turn VR.. since it takes a full turn to move it a little.
If your using something else then adjust with the power off.. Little hair turns at a time inbetween powering up..
Remember when you lower the VR resistance it will up the voltage.. So when you lower it from 10 down to 8 and lower it will raise the votlage.. Since you'll be starting at 10K it might be well over 3volts on boot.
Wait for the answer! I have no idea since i hav'nt done the vcore mod.Quote:
Originally posted by jonspd
Anyone?
I dont have a 50K VR but do have 2 10k VR's so I really need to now if I set bios to 1.55 if a 20K vr would work.
Hold out for the info.. no need to fry something. Ya could order a 50 online if ya have to.
eclypse: thanks for the detailed proceedure
The thing i'm unclear on after reading your post is if a 20k pot would be better because it has more resistence therefore safer when turning the knob because the resistence starts off high at 20k. is this correct? if it is, then i'll use the 20k pot instead
Also where are the vdimm measuring points on this mobo?
Yeah 20K would be better.. Hell i'm using a 50K. Not that you'll need a 50K though.. I have no idea where to read it on the board.
Waiting but took to long to get a amswer the modded bios is fine for what I need. But I would still like to Know if a 20K vr would work for the vcore mod.Quote:
Originally posted by eclypse
Wait for the answer! I have no idea since i hav'nt done the vcore mod.
Hold out for the info.. no need to fry something. Ya could order a 50 online if ya have to.
Jonspd
anyone know what the best bios for this mobo is up to date?
bump, read above thread pls ^
The modded 7/16 for 1.8vcore or 5/14 should be good, but different boards had better results with other bioses.
anywhere i should look in particular for the 5/14?
I recently have made the vcore mod and vdimm mod, now i am at 260fsb 1:1 with my kingston 3200 hyperX Bh5, but i have reach my limit 10x255, i can push up the memory to 270 with no memtest errors but i cannot put my cpu to 2600Mhz, i have read the thread so maybe the 4HTT is stopping me, i will test when i go home, anyone have any other idea that why is this happening?
Sorry for my english i am working on it :bananal:
That's a good place to start, let us know how that goes.
i have set de HTT to 2x 3x and no way to go maybe is the CPU that can´t go up more :( any other suggestion?
If i go up with the HTT in asyncronic like 300 and memos 250 can i have more performance? or is the same?
the HTT have any improvement?
what resistance gives people +300mv on the vcore?
I've only got a 20K pot here, and really dont feel like going out and buying a 50K
Bump I need to see this up top for a few day's soon.