No kidding :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by Hallowed
Soul, it seems like the populace here has a hard time understanding the simple law of "dont tell macci how to bench"
We should write this down somewhere.
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No kidding :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by Hallowed
Soul, it seems like the populace here has a hard time understanding the simple law of "dont tell macci how to bench"
We should write this down somewhere.
lol, shut up already.
If he COULD do it, he would have. :rolleyes:
GF4, you taking the piss or summat?
.....and pik_ard, most of the time, two o/c's on different components wont like being combined, when you put HEAVY stress onto a modern system. Course, you wouldn't know that.........
some of you guys dont have 10% the skill macci has. :hehe:
relax, were just trying to help this champ Macci reach his goal of 10k. it is clear that gpu clocks to the max is what he wants, even at the expense of a few MHz on the cpu
hm... maybe the whole max gpu vs max cpu thing is right... however...
it looked to me that macci was attempting to find max clocks on his 9800XT... as they seemed to go up each time. ;)
i dont see any posts where macci says that his high gpu clocks are interfearing with his cpu clocking... so why should i assume that is the only reason he isnt going with 4.3-4.4ghz?
when im personally trying to find the max clocks on my lowly card, i clock my cpu down a bit.
if i am wrong... which i may be, you could atleast see where i could make that honest mistake?
and if im not sure of something, like this situation, isnt it better to say something and get corrected, then to not say anything, and keep the same wrong assumption?
i know macci knows good and well what he is doing, but just me saying something like what i said, could possibly get an explanation as to why he isnt running both at max. :rolleyes:
as for ace over there... :stick:
hmm,
I'm not really impressed with total score amount, but i'm more impressed with the amount of work needed to be #1.
3dmark03 is very demanding test. Look at the attrition, Oppainter's cascade broke, and Macci's video card bridge blew while running this benchmark trying to beat 10k.
lol fools have a look at maccis website and the amount of things hes achieved.... hes probably the most accomplished overclocker out there and always up there with the best in term of benching aswell.
macci's benchmarking and overclocking skills should NEVER EVER be questioned let alone mocked or criticised and some of you have gone very close to mocking or criticising them
I saw no one mocking him, just offering him suggestions and praises
:eek: :ROTF: That's just priceless..... I'm goinna write that down! :p: Please keep up the support!Quote:
Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
he knows alot, but many of us are also experts at benching. the suggestion macci max his gpu and clock his cpu a notch down was spot on and could be his 10k
Yeah i'm sure he didn't know that before :rolleyes:
Ace,Quote:
Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
he knows alot, but many of us are also experts at benching. the suggestion macci max his gpu and clock his cpu a notch down was spot on and could be his 10k
knock it off Ace. You don't have even 5% of his knowledge so how can you help him break 10k? You sound like you're trying to teach Carl Lewis how to walk.:rolleyes:
Im sorry but benching with FX5200's and Ti4200's is different then Maccis rig where it isnt bottlenecked anywhere Geforce dude
daily update...
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Macci - 34
Oppainter - 122
Fugger -192
OT: SIGN UPDATED :D /OT
I believe I was the one who started the max card clocks and the cpu at a speed to suit :)
I was trying to say that in the past he has run his card and cpu together trying to level the combo out not at thier max's, which he probably cant do. Runing the card at its max might do the trick. macci might of already done this, who knows what he has done :D But I think that the card at its max, is the formula to get to 10K, Im not telling macci what to do, he doesnt he telling with all the knowledge he has but its just my thought :)Quote:
I say the winning formula would be his card @ 660/474. Which macci said that it had passed through the test at that before but his cpu has to be at a lower clock. Therefore run the cpu @ 242x18 (1:1) The good ol' 1:1 action would do the trick ;)
Wonder how many points oop would gain from a driver update :)
Thanks for all the suggestions :)
No idea is bad idea at this point :D
I think I need to put DX9.0b in and hope it gives atleast 5 extra (going from 9 => 9.0a gave me 5). I have server2003 OS too which gave a nice boost in A64 SuperPi results. Maybe it will run fast in 3D w/ Intel too. OPP has already shown that Server+DX9 in 3dmark2001 w/ A64 is faster than WinXP+dx8.1
And as far as OPP's driver goes it seems that its just as fast as the 4.2. Also I doubt that he would bench w/ cascade and not use the fastest driver for his setup ;)
btw, anyone got good ATI driver D3D tweaks?? Other than the usual control panel => high performance?
Maybe Rage3d?
edit -I think with Rage3d you can turn detail down even further, gotta check
I'l have to check that out. Do apps like SuperPI, Sandra run on Server 2003 Ok? Would everything be compatible with Server 2003?Quote:
Originally posted by macci
OPP has already shown that Server+DX9 in 3dmark2001 w/ A64 is faster than WinXP+dx8.1
we arent telling macci how to bench, but marely giving him suggestions ;)
I'd imagine 64bit cpus will show their full pwoer when 64bit apps and os's come out.
Sooo we now play the waiting game.
How does one install DirectX on Server 2k3? I just installed the OS tonight. It seems to be quite fast actually.
BTW, Sandra seems to run okay, yes. Dunno about SuperPI etc. This is my old box that I plan on using for a file server, folding machine.
Just tried SuperPI, runs fine. I'll be damned if I'm gonna post a score from a P4 1.8 thou GRIN.
Just think in two months you will be clicking to run it and your r420/nv40 will do 11k whilst you sit down eating your dinner wondering whether you should take the stock hsf off for the cascade .. LOL :DQuote:
Originally posted by macci
This hardware doesn't want to go to 10k very easily it seems. I've got 9962, 9965, 9966 and 9967 now - all with different GPU/RAM/CPU clocks... :brick:
The card has taken insane amount of punishment and it still keeps on going :D I'm sure she'll get 10k in the end...if not.. :bsod:
Regards
Andy
This is a good point, although macci has 99.9% of everything covered due to experience and skill, benching has so many combinations that maybe something not thought of or wild will do the trick.Quote:
Originally posted by macci
Thanks for all the suggestions :)
No idea is bad idea at this point :D
For instance Stinger ran 2 memory modules in AMD64 3400 and said it gave 300 more points at 30k, I would never have consdidered that in a single channel system ( might not be true though, not tested it ).
Besides, it is just people here being excited and involved, I'm sure we have all shouted " Hit him with a right " when watching a boxing match :)
Macci, increase your clocks on video and cpu ..that is my tip.
:banana:
Regards
Andy
Quote:
Originally posted by zakelwe
Just think in two months you will be clicking to run it and your r420/nv40 will do 11k whilst you sit down eating your dinner wondering whether you should take the stock hsf off for the cascade .. LOL :D
Regards
Andy
:D :banana: yea funny thing how fast technology advances eh? If he can grab one of those quick, he may be the first to 13k or even 15k and 40k in 2001
lol, i thought it was pretty obvious, i've been recommending using 2x256mb sticks since day 1:)Quote:
For instance Stinger ran 2 memory modules in AMD64 3400 and said it gave 300 more points at 30k, I would never have consdidered that in a single channel system ( might not be true though, not tested it ).
11 more Fking marks to go! Aaarrghhh :D
LOL
Go for it!
LOL comeon, like 1 more mhz on core or mem and its youres:D
Man that's gotta be frustrating macci..... I know in the end though you'll figure it out and smash through the barrier.
It's kinda like when Chuck Yeager broke the sound barrier! :p: I think it took 6 or more flights and he was going from like .96 mach, .97 mach, .98mach, etc. Then finally WHAM! straight through it. I doubt the ride will be as smooth though as it was for Yeager :D Keep it up man...... good luck.
The hunt is over :D
gotta upload some stuff now
You smashed it didn't ya!?!!! CONGRATS MACCI!!!! :toast: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
Congratulation Mr. 10k!Quote:
Originally posted by macci
The hunt is over :D
gotta upload some stuff now
:rocker:Quote:
Originally posted by macci
The hunt is over :D
gotta upload some stuff now
Right on :D
http://www.akiba-pc.com/10008.gif
Isn't it a beautiful number :D
URL
done at 4505/657/471
It sure is.... need to update your sig now eh??? LOL :banana:
:toast:
Excellent finish to the hunt macci after all those days trying. First 10k in 2001 and 2003 now .. great record of your persistence in benching over time.
Now Futuremark just ned to clear up all that crap on the front page that has appeared over the last couple of days
:rolleyes: What is it with Ati 9600 owners ?
Regards
Andy
PS Quad, it's still not obvious to me using 2 sticks for AMD64, I know I am being a bit dumb here :) !!! LOL
macci, you're the man! :toast: :slobber:
a salute to you for another milestone in
the history books of overclocking - chapeau!
Congrats on the 10K macci :toast:
I see futuremark has some problems displaying correct fsb, is it because clockgen was used?
I know that 3D01 has the same probs displaying my scores with the IC7-G, setting 288fsb & it reports it as 0fsb. I also notice my bios reporting the same, 288fsb/289fsb is reported as 287fsb, only when i use cpu-z does it show me the correct speed/fsb.
Anyways, once again CONGRATS on breaking 2 milestones, 10K in both 3D01 & 3D03....:worship: :worship: :worship: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :rocker: :rocker:
:toast: :banana: Cheers (and a dancing banana :D) mate!
good job m8 :toast:
Congrats and a job well done.
I was plugging away at it last night too,
My IC7-Max3 now up to 4.55Ghz but agpv too low to match P4C800 vga clock speeds. NB cap helped a lot.
Surprised you didnt run 2K1 with those clocks ;)
macci you are ruthless "you killed the sacred number"Quote:
Originally posted by macci
The hunt is over :D
gotta upload some stuff now
congrats :toast:
I'm really surprised that 10k was broken in 3dmark03. For a moment, I didn't think it was possible with current hardware and technology. Congratulations Macci.
FUGGER,Quote:
Originally posted by FUGGER
Congrats and a job well done.
I was plugging away at it last night too,
My IC7-Max3 now up to 4.55Ghz but agpv too low to match P4C800 vga clock speeds. NB cap helped a lot.
Surprised you didnt run 2K1 with those clocks ;)
With such a nice speed out of your EE how are you doing on pifast, Superpi etc etc ?
Regards
Andy
PS Wonder if macci is now turning his attention to 2001 , would seem logical now the main signpost goal has been reached.
Well, it isn't possible with current hardware actually.Quote:
Originally posted by Kanavit
I'm really surprised that 10k was broken in 3dmark03. For a moment, I didn't think it was possible with current hardware and technology. Congratulations Macci.
But it IS possible with current hardware in macci's hands :banana:
Macci and Opps hands, both have shown the followingQuote:
Originally posted by Soulburner
Well, it isn't possible with current hardware actually.
But it IS possible with current hardware in macci's hands :banana:
1) Ability to use past experience to extract the max out of all new hardware coming their way.
2) Ability to take new hardware theories onboard ( in this I am thinking cascades ) and turn them into practice in a successful manner.
3) Ability to bench conistently over an extended time period without it blowing their brains :)
Of the above the 3) is the nost impressive to me. To be able to stay at the top of your field whilst hardware is failing and you have stayed up to 3-4-5am in the morning with other social activities ( like work ) the next day really takes some doing.
From posted items we know macci said he was tired after benching in January at all hours and we know CaptainCascade felt the tiredness whilst Opp was still benching away in early morning runs .....
And the hardware felt the pace as well, one blown cascade and one blown ( but still record performing ) ATI card, it's been great to watch.
Thanks guys.
Regards
Andy
congratulation
:bows: :bows: :bows:
Andy, I will try again once I finish the agp mod, I broke down already.
I used wires and located the NB cap off to the side and soldered it with NB fan still on the mobo. 1500u 6.3v
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcm04=217114
bugged at 4.250Ghz (speed I booted at), I completed it at 4.56Ghz
I have a 4.29Ghz score saved 6735
The XT is a very durable video card, hard to believe the abuse it has been put through.
id like to congras you again :) next stop: breaking 31k in 2001
Congratulations, Herr Makkinen. :toast:
congrats man, nice job.
:toast: macci
Whats your next goal? Have a rest ;)
probably 100k in aquamark - such a nice number - but not likely to be done anytime soon - maybe the follow-up of r420 will be enough... who knows...
yea hes probably gonna rest till socket 939 then break 11k in 2003 and 35k in 2001
Why do you even say things like this? How do you know? Did you call him up and talk to him on the phone about his upcoming plans?Quote:
Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
yea hes probably gonna rest till socket 939 then break 11k in 2003 and 35k in 2001
:ROTF:Quote:
Originally posted by Soulburner
Why do you even say things like this? How do you know? Did you call him up and talk to him on the phone about his upcoming plans?
seriously dude? do u think ure a f'in phsychic or somethin, enough with the predictions:stick: :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
yea hes probably gonna rest till socket 939 then break 11k in 2003 and 35k in 2001
Quote:
Originally posted by Soulburner
Why do you even say things like this? How do you know? Did you call him up and talk to him on the phone about his upcoming plans?
Macci already said he arent getting an fx right now! :stick:
well i dunno bout wat soulburner thought of ure comment but personally im not at all fussed by the macci will rest part, wat annoys me is ure predictions of 11k and 35k.. do u know how good socket 939 will be?NO you have NO idea so quit guessing.
There is nothing wrong with guessing and predicting...but its getting extremely repetitive, if you know what I mean.
Talking of predictions I'm starting to wonder what my 3dmark03 score will be when I buy nv40 or r420. In other words I wonder how much of a jump it will be.
Current rumours are that the nv40 will have more pipelines and better ps2 speed whereas r420 will have more vertex units and faster piplines ( though the same number ). Ignoring the ultrafast memory the faster gpu/vpu core clocks ( 500-600 ? ) should mean I might be up in the 8-9k region .. wahey ! Shame I still find 03 very boring.
Regards
Andy
Have to agree here. FM is past their prime.Quote:
Originally posted by zakelwe
Shame I still find 03 very boring.
Regards
Andy
EXACTLY:up: :rocker:Quote:
Originally posted by Soulburner
but its getting extremely repetitive, if you know what I mean.
I also find 2003 boring, I havent even tried it with my ti4200. 2001 is alot more fun and we should be seeing lots of 30k air cooled scores with an r420(and maybe nv40) with socket 939 and a64s doing near or 3GHz on air cooling due to improved yields. 3700+ will be 2.4GHz stock, the good ones will do 2.8 to 3GHz air cooled.
ACE WILL YOU KNOCK THAT OFF?
aww god, this is just painfull to watch, to many things about you annoy me ace, youre lack maturity, youre lack of experience, that fat chik in youre avatar and mainly the fact that u think ure freakin nostradamus. quit it with the predictions cos no one here appreciates them. :soap: :down:
roflmao.. good one! :toast:Quote:
Originally posted by Hallowed
ACE WILL YOU KNOCK THAT OFF?
and yeah this wag-style phrophecies are getting really darn annoying. every five posts i read what the 420 might or might not do... we'll see it soon enough. btw i think the pentium 6 will really own and we'll see 25k '03 easy (btw that was sarcasm) ;)...
the only thing funny about those recurring estimates is the responses to them, like yours - they really crack me up. but i'd rather have a laugh a day less than another 10 guesses at possible scores to come.
Update the first post already, congrats macci btw. Dual Cascade cooling aye?
can we quit with the flames? thats against rules but predictions arent
i have to agree. You're crapping threads with your predictions.Quote:
quit it with the predictions cos no one here
I can confidently predict that GF4ti's predictions will continue to occur at a predicatable rate.
I have to say that the last few posts made me chuckle, though I don't feel as strong on the subject and therefore am not bothered by this sort of post. I just wish all this new hardware was here right now.
Quad, will you have the chance to test nv40 / r420 before NDA expires ? I'm thinking along the lines of your very popular AMD64 tbreak thread ( ie more than 100 000 views in 5 days :D )
Regards
Andy
That would be cool!:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally posted by zakelwe
Quad, will you have the chance to test nv40 / r420 before NDA expires ? I'm thinking along the lines of your very popular AMD64 tbreak thread ( ie more than 100 000 views in 5 days :D )
Regards
Andy
even if anyone tests NDA hardware, the results wont be allowed to be made public till NDA expires, but thats still a headstart. Get socket 939 and r420 a week early, break 40k marks then as soon as NDA expires, publish score and your top of the orb!
NO one is going to be getting "40k" just from R420 and S939.Quote:
Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
even if anyone tests NDA hardware, the results wont be allowed to be made public till NDA expires, but thats still a headstart. Get socket 939 and r420 a week early, break 40k marks then as soon as NDA expires, publish score and your top of the orb!
No way.
the predicitions are getting annoying... all i i see in these threads are predictions of what people think others will get with "this" and "that"..
just wait until they get them.
ok lets just wait, well see how close I am and how close to 40k they get with socket 939, fx53 and r420
:ROTF: Thanks! ... you did it again ... :ROTF:Quote:
Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
can we quit with the flames? thats against rules but predictions arent
Definitely not with r420 but who knows with nvidia's driver team ? LOLQuote:
Originally posted by Soulburner
NO one is going to be getting "40k" just from R420 and S939.
No way.
I'm interested what nv40 will do with 44.03 drivers in nature, bet it's mindboggingly high if they are running 6x2 or 8x2 pipelines at 500+ MHz .....
Regards
Andy
Ti4200,
r420/nV40 won't get you 40k cos both have pretty weak branch prediction accuracy in 6th and 7th texture pipelines due to a few recent marketing mispredictions.
now which prediction makes more sense yours or maybe mine?
You got my vote:toast: :banana: ;)Quote:
Originally posted by QuadDamage
Ti4200,
r420/nV40 won't get you 40k cos both have pretty weak branch prediction accuracy in 6th and 7th texture pipelines due to a few recent marketing mispredictions.
now which prediction makes more sense yours or maybe mine?
Quote:
Originally posted by QuadDamage
Ti4200,
r420/nV40 won't get you 40k cos both have pretty weak branch prediction accuracy in 6th and 7th texture pipelines due to a few recent marketing mispredictions.
now which prediction makes more sense yours or maybe mine?
If you have seen the nv40 and r420 or heard about it which the rest of us havent due to NDA then your prediction prevails. so is it even gonna be a worthy upgrade over a 9800xt and I dont mean 10% faster either :rolleyes:
ummm what? i was being sarcastic if you didn't notice. i have no clue how fast r420/nV40 will be, do you know anything about these two chipsets? i don't think so. Are you hyperactive or something?
8x2 :DQuote:
Originally posted by zakelwe
Definitely not with r420 but who knows with nvidia's driver team ? LOL
I'm interested what nv40 will do with 44.03 drivers in nature, bet it's mindboggingly high if they are running 6x2 or 8x2 pipelines at 500+ MHz .....
Regards
Andy
I say overclocked it will be pulling 250fps Nature at least...we have already seen 210 from the 5900.....hehe.
Make that 216 by Hiwayman. ;) :slobber:Quote:
Originally posted by Soulburner
8x2 :D
I say overclocked it will be pulling 250fps Nature at least...we have already seen 210 from the 5900.....hehe.
actually, those high natures are with the optimized 43.03 which may not even work on the nv40. If they do, we may be hitting 300fps in nature overclocked, if not, more like 200-230
There's a good thread at beyond3d at present on nv40 rumour from Theinq. Looks Soulburner's 8x2 is probably right ( or 16x1 ) and with GDDR2/3 memory at 50GB/sec would mean it is not bandwidth starved.
I'm guessing over 300 fps now :eek:
There's the first few doubts creeping into the fanATics about the r40 being far superior ;)
It will probably still be top dog in DX9 though.
I have to confess I'm having trouble not giving out my own predictions now, I'm as excitable as a 6 week old puppy weeing all over the house :p:
Regards
Not House trained
I'll take whatever is fastest. If equal, I'm back to NV. More fun to overclock :)
+RivaTuner, which kicks ass.
:hehe: :lol:Quote:
Originally posted by zakelwe
Regards
Not House trained