longer than Andre:D
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^ roflllllllllllllll
Calathea - 6:01:453 - 39x128.3 - 1283 MHz - 8-11-7-24-86-1T - Z87X-OC - Gskill 2133 C8 2x2gb/BBSE - 1.85v - air/air
Thanks to dinos and sin's oc-guide :up:
http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/...psca6c1f71.jpg
Tried single stage to get that lousy cache frquency up a notch, but ended up being stuck trying to post 2500 cl8 for a hour before I gave up. Seems like cpu doesn't clock ram as good on cold.
Good start keep pushing.
Cold shouldn't impact negatively on memory oc, it should only improve it a bit. Definitely try again.you need that uncore to go sub 6
I don't know how you guys are running BBSE on Haswell, so much fail for me, and the worst type of fail, the "I'm not even going to boot" sort of fail:p:Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
I think sub 6 can be done with 4.7-4.8 uncore, but you are right, the higher to 1:1 the better. Looking forward to seeing some cold results from you and your beastly BBSE:up:
Looks like Zen might come up this weekend for some benching. He is going to bring the beastly air BBSE kit of his, to test under cold on a few different boards. We will have the M6E, OCF's, Giga OC and possibly MPower Max if CL3P can bring it, should be an awesome time hunting for sub 56's:yepp:
last screens for this half of the kit.
l0ud_sil3nc3 - 7:18:984 - 40x100 - 1300.8 MHz - 6-10-6-24-68-1 - OCF - GSkill 2400 c8 2x2GB/PSC - 2.1v - LN2 @ all
http://i.imgur.com/G8Ir0ZZ.png
l0ud_sil3nc3 - 5:56:750 - 50x100 - 1300.7 MHz - 6-10-6-24-68-1 - OCF - GSkill 2400 c8 2x2GB/PSC - 2.1v - LN2 @ all
http://i.imgur.com/Tjm2Ep5.png
:( You live a long way from me. I wish I could just come watch and be the Cabana Boy. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by l0ud_sil3nc3
Your benching is coming on strong! Are you by any chance sleeping or eating? :eek:
not until the juice runs out.... and 7:16 4ghz or 5:54 5ghz is hitQuote:
Originally Posted by runmc
Sleeping and eating. . . . checkQuote:
Originally Posted by runmc
Thanks Ron, I would love to get together the next time I am in Texas especially since Mikecdm lives so close, I figure we could have a mini North Texas meet lol.
I am sure the humidity is not so bad as down in Corpus Christi say, but it is a pleasure to bench out in California, where relative humidity is 34 % on a bad day and 16 % on a good day:)
I think we need to organize a West Coast event, it has been a long time since there was anything in the US and this blows my mind, as I am sure we are not a small market.
or something for CES. vegas is only 4 hours away... would be easy with the west coast guys to make xxx vendor look pretty good for a few days with minimal travel distance.Quote:
Originally Posted by l0ud_sil3nc3
XBrytanX - 7:21:953 - 40x99.97 - 1399MHz - 9-12-12-21-110-1T - ASRock OCF- 2x4gb Corsair 2666c10 -samsung HCH9-RAM air[2.03v]/cpu H20
http://imageshack.us/a/img153/9360/39pb.jpg
XBrytanX - 7:21:765 - 40x99.97 - 1399MHz - 9-12-12-21-110-1T - ASRock OCF- 2x4gb Corsair 2666c10 -samsung HCH9-RAM air[2.03v]/cpu H20
9-12-12-19-108 is np with this kit ..just have to get my waza going
http://imageshack.us/a/img24/487/ihj.png
Calathea - 6:00:890 - 39x128.3 - 1283 MHz - 8-11-7-24-86-1T - Z87X-OC - Gskill 2133 C8 2x2gb/BBSE - 1.85v - Cpu SS/ram air
http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2283f7bc.jpg
Sadly I can only load settings with ddr3 2500 on + degress. This gives me anywhere between 5-30 minutes before mobo gives nasty reset upon reboot or crash, then its game over and shut down compressor :P
AndreYang- 7:17.203 - 40x100.00 - 1333.3MHz - 6-11-7-24-64-1 - ASUS Maximus VI Extreme- GSkill 2500mhz 2x2GB/PSC - 2.2v - LN2 CPU/Mem
http://iamxtreme.net/andre/4G-M6E.jpg
Are the 2500C8 Tridents the demonstrator kit from Computex kit from a couple of years ago or you actually managed to find them in retail?
Got it from gskill 2 years ago. Don't think it's retail on the market.
^Fair enough ;)
Actually, not fair! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Splave
Seems the Asrock OC Formula is pulling some good efficiency, I really need to get back into benching a bit!
we have awesome cards this generation,too bad intel screwed up the retail haswell big time....
Have faith Alex-Ro :P When those Costa Ricas hit the market... Well at least that's my hope!
Well crap and here I thought I had a decent 4Ghz time:p:
Time to go back to the drawing board.
CL9 were retail on newegg but only some limited kits and sold out in one day, james and me and thomas have some, but this is first time i saw C8Quote:
Originally Posted by AndreYang
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...Ln2&highlight=
Looks like he's on too something good,he's really worked out something good from looking at his AIDA64 it looks really good.So much to learn on this new platform given time we will all work it out,we are problem solvers,just have to work out the puzzleQuote:
Originally Posted by l0ud_sil3nc3
@AndreYang, very nice time man
Indeed he is, the 4Ghz time is epic:yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by bullant
Going to be back at it tonight though, with a different kit.
All ready in Northern Cali, going to pick up one or two tomorrow if time permits, hoping for some Costa Rican magic in a box!Quote:
Originally Posted by Calathea
yeah its basically the sameQuote:
Originally Posted by TaPaKaH
hey Sam i was thinking about what you said in the past about the hand picked stuff is nothing like retail and unmatchable, i have some thoughts on that,
in the past i agree with you, but on this platform things arnt the same for me, my 2 best sticks that i previously did 2800 7-11-7 with are no longer my best sticks, in fact they are just some retail kit i didn't even realize was PSC and just ripped out of a litecoin mining rig,
i tested a bunch of PSC this weekend, some mine, some owned by a bunch of different Australian guys, all the retail stuff that used to be 'average' on Z77 is now clocking the best on air, i haven't tried LN2 on many kits yet, but the sticks that i used to consider my gems are now getting beaten by a 2000c7 flare kit that i didn't give much respect to in the past
flare couldnt run 2600 on air in z77, now doing 2666 8-12-8-27 1T, trfc 82, twcl 6, same secondaries/tertiarys i want to use on LN2 minus trfc @ 1.91v
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex-Ro
ur hope is hereQuote:
Originally Posted by Calathea
retail 4770k 7GHz 2.176v:D
how many it take TL :)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Splave
http://forum.hwbot.org/showthread.php?t=78887Quote:
Originally Posted by GUN'G'STAR
sorry for being OT
Alex-ro - 7:21:540 - 40x100 - 1300 MHz - 8-12-8-28-84-1 - Asus Maximus 6 Extreme - GSkill 2200mhz Pi 4x2GB/PSC - 1.9v - Air CPU/Mem
PSC on air have not so great efficiency for me at least,going to check the best set of these two(which can do cas 7 twcl 7 2600 on air 32M :D) on dice.
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/7913/zxzf.png
@youngpro very interesting, is this related to the haswell imc or do you think it is issue of the board you tested on? I skip Haswell, at least until now, so I cannot test my psc, one of these is in fact also Flare kit that already does 2600 8-11-8-28 on Z77
I've yet to see any huge difference between ivy and haswell at clocking memory(psc,sams,bbse) except they work little better on haswell.I've binned a dozen of psc kits on haswell and ivy,correlations are the same,better kits on ivy work better on haswell(m5e + m6e both cases used).
i dont think its IMC related, i swapped in and out chips and i didnt see the mhz go up or down, i think in the 2600-2700 range IMCs are very similar for PSC/BBSE, but i only tested limited samples
I lol'd a little when this finished
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...ps419c0dc9.png
Hope Jake sees this. ;)
all air everything
7:20.922 - 2400 C7 - Hypers
if you are having issues with cpu-z reading wrong voltage open the cpuz.ini and try Sensor=0
hey guys,
james and I did a lot of testing on the weekend with PSCs and ran into some problems with cold and could not tighten to 7-10-7 or 6-10-6
it was bios related! I confirmed it in testing last night and today and we're making a new benching bios that will sort this out. My PSCs arent too great so i couldnt really do a great deal more than 1300 cas6 and 1333 cas7 but a few guys do have some gems which should be cranking it pretty hard now. will update it when it's ready
Dino
ZenEffect - 7:20:703- 40x100 - 1200.7 - 7-8-8-20-62-1 - ASRock Z87 OC Formula - Corsair GTX2 2200mhz 2x2GB/Hyper MGH-E - 1.9v - Air CPU/Mem
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...pse98c7d93.png
tuned the OS a little... maybe I gain a little on BBSE ;)
nobody else wants to join the hyper fun?
None of mine run 8 8 8 2400 :) been working on some interesting stuff. Looking pretty fast @ 2600 c8 will post soon
looking forward to 2600 c8
Wow cool! I will try my kits, 4x2 dom gt 1600 cl6. At least one of them could run 2133 7-7-6 on SB @ 1.80 vdimm but it was slooow for the clocks back then.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
edit: So I tried hypers too. My kits can't make much more than ~2250 MHz at any timings. Quick Pifast comparison between my fully tweaked BBSE @ 1300 8-11-7 1.85 vdimm and "just getting started" Hyper MGH-E at 1098 7-7-6-24 1.92 vdimm:
BBSE
http://hwbot.org/submission/2393293_...770k_11.69_sec
Hyper
http://hwbot.org/submission/2395832_...770k_11.69_sec
Pretty neat huh? :)
Max pifast = 1130 MHz 7-7-6-23 1T trfc 68 with 1.96 vdimm. For 32m I will need cold on them.
http://i.imgur.com/yDacjNX.jpg
still working, not bad at 2600 :)
So glad to see some Hypers again! :rocker:
not bad at all... have you played with your waza sizes? i went against convention last night and found another .2 :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Splave
Not yer. Time cut was strictly voltages :)
@ZenEffect: do same settings pass 32M at 5GHz? :)
don't have an air 5ghz chip to be honest. I can maybe next weekend when I start freezing things.Quote:
Originally Posted by TaPaKaH
*edit*
or maybe tonight, checked tracking and my ek plates are supposed to be in today so I might play with a little dice, ln2 next weekend :)
@Splave
sa, ioa and iod? I noticed if they aren't set "right" things start slowing down. the auto rules are pretty good though.
ill have some 4ghz times soon, maybe i wont challenge andre but should have some alright times
been playing with a couple boards and just getting some time to properly pay on z87/memory, pre-computex was a little too full on
Been through several bios's, all my timings both good & bad & spent 1/2 a day yesterday playing with voltages & ended up with exactly the same score as my previous 2 attempts. After seeing Alex's great run I was hell bent on not posting until I could at least break the sub 6 min mark but I just cant make it so this will have to do as my best.
C-N- 6:00:063 - 50x100 - 1400MHz 10-12-12-18-120-1 - Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD5H - Corsair 2666 C10 2x4GB/Samsung HCH9 - 1.90v - CPU Water Kuhler 920 / Ram Air
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...8006M00063.png
This weekends attempt
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...F6K6M00063.png
Nice result man,if you lower trfc and some tertiary a little you'll reach your goal easily :)
There's got to be something I'm not getting but that really is the best I can do. Might be me, my chip the board who knows but its real tough with my Samsung's on the 2800 divider. I have a hard time adjusting secondary's. Lower trfc is slower for me & although I have run trrd 4 & trtp 4 it don't like it so I ended up setting 3 which must put the board into panic so it sets the lowest its happy with to boot. I been right through my timings & just cant get my samsungs to play nice on the 2800 divider.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex-Ro
what volts are you setting in GTL? Also try pushing more volts into your RAM. mine scale and i bench with 1.98 normally. ive benched up to 2.05 and they kept going.
it should not be slower with TRFC under 110, keep at it mate. You're looking pretty good there so far imo
Thanks mate, to be fair I have stopped using GTL as it was not reporting IOA & IOD properly it was always displaying .050 when I had more set in bios. I may re test this later as it might well have been some bios/os corruption but thought I'd play it safe & just set stuff in the bios. I know these sticks run faster & lower on z77 just got to find my way I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
I had for the first run I posted something like sa 1.1 ioa .09 iod .06v & the second run where I thought I was getting somewhere with my voltages I had .190 .160 .130. These voltages have been crept up individually & pi run at each step to find the fastest/most consistent.
Yes the more volts I throw at the Samsung the faster they run but in all honesty I didn't go mad on volts gave 1.95 a quick run & found only a small gain maybe .200. I would have expected to gain more than .400 going from CL10 to 9 & 1.65 ~ 1.9v. These sticks have run tight 2860 9.12.12 under 2v on z77 so was expecting the same if not better from z87.
Even 10.12.12 @ 2800 they are touchy with secondary timings its this I'm struggling with mostly.
Edit... GTL working fine noe I must have bent something!!
just tuning voltages, so please don't add.
http://i.imgur.com/9rkcJcX.png
Finding another one good kit to improve a little bit performance.
AndreYang- 5:55.594 - 49x102.0 - 1360.1MHz - 6-10-6-21-60-1 - ASUS Maximus VI Extreme- GSkill 2000mhz 2x2GB/PSC - 2.3V - LN2 CPU/Mem
http://iamxtreme.net/andre/M6E-5G-1.jpg
monster kit, Andre
Epic kit and great 32M run! :up:
got some emails to ask for psc sorting. It's nothing special. Find no coldbug and cold boot psc, you are a winner.
http://iamxtreme.net/andre/M6E-5G-2.jpg
Agreed just have to test them under cold, which is why I find air testing for cold kinda lolQuote:
Originally Posted by AndreYang
Great work as usual bro!
Also what heat spreaders are you using?
bro only -137? how can you tell no CB or CBB? even dominator original can get to -150 why not use I know you have a couple :P
My memory pot cannot go colder than -150. 90% of my sticks locked around -100. That's what I talk about finding no CBB/CB kits. My gtx3 has cold bug as well.
I am using customized heat spreader from a Taiwanese friend.
:up:
those filthy sticks work again Z87..
http://www.abload.de/img/unbenanntoss3w.jpg
Hmm, Corsair DomGT 2000C7?
nice to see hyper resurgance, after seeing zens time might have to try them subzero
great result again andre, got that memory singing
:yepp: although there are some mhz missing to catch up, still fun to see them back in action. as pro said, maybe trying them subzero to see what is possible..Quote:
Originally Posted by websmile
If mems can suicide at -150c they should also have no issues (coldbug) running 32M at -150, right?
Should be good to go, show us the money:DQuote:
Originally Posted by TaPaKaH
So decided to test a team mates 2300 c8's and they did not disappoint. . . . timings wise:p:
CB seemed to hit at around -132c and after that I could not get in to the bios, so called it quits lol
Quick run with no waza and right off the bat something is apparently off
http://i.imgur.com/VH8qyk6.png
Waza run with higher memory and, very poor efficiency
l0ud_sil3nc3 - 7:18:938 - 40x100 - 1333.4 MHz - 6-10-6-24-64-1 - OCF - GSkill 2300 c8 2x2GB/PSC - 2.15v - LN2 @ all
http://i.imgur.com/9fYWWoL.png
everything is all ready torn down and ready for a repeat tomorrow night:)
http://i.imgur.com/JLYNCx0.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/UZX1IaV.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/JXoH5Wr.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/RFK26Sj.jpg
Great run, George! :up:
well done george.
Im excited to try these guys just for fun. :) seems 4ghz likes tight over mhz maybe it has a chance.
http://i.imgur.com/8YiWHFN.jpg
Hard to believe its 5 years old lol
thats the pot i used at computex, all copper damn nice and heavy can't mount it that why temp can go lower.
Youngpro KP Copper pot should be killer now.
nice to see hypers again i should have some great sticks :yepp:
Are you kidding me? Look what I received today:Quote:
Originally Posted by Splave
http://imageshack.us/a/img837/8712/qunl.jpg
^must be bros :D
Funny pic, but the more funny part is .500s faster with cool air at same timings :D
http://i.imgur.com/uyx0bZA.jpg
There must be some sort of error filter type stuff going on that slows down with the IC's heat. You can tell if you pump to much volts you are slower when temps are warm but you dont fail.
What settings are you using?
How many times did I say to use Hypers to you and Fred! PSC licensed the chip design from Elpida that's why Elpida B is similar to PSC.Quote:
Originally Posted by youngpro
thanks for this,given their behaviour(trcd-voltage wall) i was almost sure that there was a mix between elpida rev b and psc :) wondering if hypers can do same things at 5ghz and then maybe somr cold.... :D
Well,gave 4 ghz another spin...
http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/8046/uea.png
http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/4074/dljq.png
Alex-Ro - 7:20:906- 40x100 - 1333.4 MHz - 8-12-7-28-88-1 - OCF-M - GSkill 2200C7 2x2GB/PSC - 1.90 - all air
Cas7 twcl 6 2600 is in the same ballpark on air :shocked:
Have 4 special sticks going to try them one at a time :) First one no CB/CBB
http://i.imgur.com/jiVcryC.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/tqIjSHF.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/2MBE8Tj.jpg
Splave - 7:28:609 - 40x100 - 1400MHz - 7-11-7-24-74-1 - ASRock Z87 OCF-M - Gskill 1x2GB/PSC - 2.05v - Ram LN2
http://i.imgur.com/RXufl6Z.jpg
Comming for you Dre :dog::cat::gay::scope::lastweek::owned::usa:
Good efficiency Alex,look like you getting it dialled in nice
nice psc Alex, need try them on cold
thanks,i think there is another 0.0.1-0.0.2 to squeeze :)Quote:
Originally Posted by bullant
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/4796/8w57.png
Alex-Ro - 7:20:860- 40x100 - 1300.4 MHz - 7-12-7-27-81-1 - OCF-M - GSkill 2200C7 2x2GB/PSC - 1.96 - all air
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/9751/n9z.png
Thats pretty awesome Alex,Cl7 1300Mhz nice subs and in the 20s,some nice memory's and tuning man
Alex-Ro - 7:20:813- 40x100 - 1300.4 MHz - 8-12-7-28-84-1 - Z87-OCF-M - GSkill 2200C7 4x2GB/PSC - 1.90 - all air
Mandatory 4 module run,second kit is hitting a wall at 2630 or smthing,still aiming for 2666 but very hard at 26 ambient :)
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/9939/p4cz.png
So which motheboard it's better, Gene VI or OCF-M ? ;)
Both are excellent clockers,i am not a good judge....
Crusty - 5:58:937- 50x100.06 - 1300.7 MHz - 8-11-7-22-72-1 - Z87-OCF - GSkill 2133C8 2x2GB/bbse - 1.83v - all air
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/2762/scpg.jpg
stick number 2 no CB w00t 2800 7-11-7 all day :D
http://i.imgur.com/mPaeLQx.jpg
@ crusty
Those green pcb ripjaws?
nice run Crusty , it is green pcb your ram? , i have tried 2 kit ripjaws 2133cl8 black pcb and was turds on air , one of these test on LN2 but not good scales with cold
i got today one kit 2133cl8 green pcb and look very nice , low volt on air..final test need on ln2:D
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/5940/0ow0.jpg
Hypers seems OK 2600 7-8-7 good timings at only -40 SS
1m stable! keep pushing we want 32m :D your mem is on ss? if so that is amazing
tried but no way :D even ln2 and 2.25, i think there is some subs won't pass 32m on hypers, max 32m stable was 2400 after that can valid 26XX but no 32m.Quote:
Originally Posted by Splave
yeah i tried during computex and could boot and bench 1m at 2600 8-8-8- but yeah couldnt figure out how to get it going
i will try my hypers again because i reckon its doable, just gotta spent time on them
Oh, nice anyway...would be cool to see you nail a fast Hyper 32m run Hiwa.
ZenEffect - 7:18:985 - 50x100 - 1333.8MHz - 7-10-6-24-73-1 - ASRock Z87 OC Formula - Crucial Ballistix 2133mhz 2x2GB/PSC - 2.1v - LN2/LN2
Sticks simply wont cas6. had to train on 1.95, any more and its no fun. 2740 7-11-7-25 pass at same volts but is slower... gotta revisit and sort it out.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...ps412c60e1.png
frosty pics in a few. kinda mixing it up with something other than gskill psc.
sorry didnt get around to putting the gtx2 under ln2 to see how they react. was too per-occupied figuring out cold psc. its challenging to get a efficient run and was a great learning session. will do hypers next time. im sure I will be improving on this score soon.
Yes they are blue ripjaws green pcb.
I spent about 10 days trying to figure out what most voltages do in terms of mem stability and i think now it is a walk in the park to run tight bbse.
If i pass mem training with them it is sure that they can pass 32m...
I found even the combination initial and eventual mem volatge is important to pass mem training not to mention sa,io and vtddr.
btw edited the previous post,it was at 1,83v on mem
l0ud_sil3nc3 - 7:18:391 - 40x100.1 - 1334.1 MHz - 6-10-6-24-68-1 - OCF - GSkill 2300 c8 2x2GB/PSC - 2.15v - LN2 @ all
http://i.imgur.com/HA32xSk.png
a little fail, because it happens to all of us:D
http://i.imgur.com/qtVQYjL.png
and some epeen to round the night off lol
http://i.imgur.com/MDJHwSe.png
and frosty the snowman. . .
http://i.imgur.com/EiKoXCw.jpg
a bit more humid than usual:eek:
http://i.imgur.com/yzGwxKT.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/o4ilvsL.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vSE2Kn8.jpg
Update.
Nice work, guys! :up:
Thanks for the update Daniel!
George, killer runs! Those random Crucials you sent last year are working out pretty friggin well. Who would have guessed right? Not the greatest to suck in timings, but when they are "right" they get going pretty quick.
i been struggling with psc for a while now, just started to get some wins in the last few days,
got 2666 5-9-6 working today but only 11-12 loops, but my focus is 2700+ 6-9-6 now, seems possible just need to work out right settings combinations
anyone still buying bbse for subzero? lol
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/9874/lzjr.jpg
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/1801/9qsj.jpg
2700+ 6-9-6?Now that would be a blast :shocked::shocked: