Figuring out G.Skill's SNs

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Originally Posted by natu

Hi,

nice run hiwa,can you tell me what ohter settings you use? i can run 3x2GB at the same settings with 3x2Gb G.Skill Pi 2000 Cl6 but with 4x2GB G.Skill PI 2000 Cl6 i got not exct in round in spi32 all stick's can run that speed.

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nothing changed just tried 4 different PSC sticks to find one can match the 3 X 2GB and higher vdimm , they can do with 1.78 when 2 X 2

i have serious problem with my OS now, this OS was damn fast with sams last week, new install seems very slow.

2000 6-9-6 3x2gb only 1 stick will run 8-12-8-28-1t 2600 tight
2300 8-11-8 2x2gb kit both sticks better then the best out of the c6 kit.

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Originally Posted by Splave

2000 6-9-6 3x2gb only 1 stick will run 8-12-8-28-1t 2600 tight
2300 8-11-8 2x2gb kit both sticks better then the best out of the c6 kit.

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Bad news, but 2300 8-11-8 is an awesome bin.

2000 c7 Flares aren't too bad, dropped the volts to 2.0v after trying up to 2.1 and still no 32m at these speeds, but bandwidth is impressive for sure

http://i.imgur.com/P4NTKnj.png

l0ud_sil3nc3
LN2 or air cooling? Thanks.

Will be LN2, Flare bin is nothing special - too bad we don?t have list here at xs about ddr3 mems with clocking results, since ln2 or dice is used frequently now it is hard to get real information about quality here as even bad mems look good on cold

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Originally Posted by MaJ0r

l0ud_sil3nc3
LN2 or air cooling? Thanks.

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LN2, -94?C. ;)
Check the 5GHz 32M thread! :)

I wouldn't be too sure about LN2 for that screen. I have a kit that can do at least 10 loops of 32M at 1300 6-11-7-28 with 1.9V on normal air.

I think we know what these are, monster bbse from march 2011 :D

http://i.imgur.com/e3IQy5J.jpg

Ebay....... :D

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Originally Posted by MaJ0r

l0ud_sil3nc3
LN2 or air cooling? Thanks.

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Definitely LN2, don't think I have ever seen any PSC that can run 2600 c6 with TWCL 6 is well, especially not on air:)

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Originally Posted by TaPaKaH

I wouldn't be too sure about LN2 for that screen. I have a kit that can do at least 10 loops of 32M at 1300 6-11-7-28 with 1.9V on normal air.

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Yes but that is with TWCL at 8, much easier to do, but much slower.

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Originally Posted by websmile

Will be LN2, Flare bin is nothing special - too bad we don?t have list here at xs about ddr3 mems with clocking results, since ln2 or dice is used frequently now it is hard to get real information about quality here as even bad mems look good on cold

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Flare bin is not bad, better than most, plus imho any memory that can run 2700+ c7 is a pretty good bin, cold or no cold:D

Davis has a really crazy Flare kit, 2000 6-9-6 don't think it was ever retail but they are very good.

7-9-7 2000 is not bad, but nothing special, doesn?t even guarantee that you can do trp 7 at 1200 - 6-9-6 does

G.skill 2x2GB 2200MHZ cl 7-10-10-28 2T ripjaws-x chip 11051040220294
ned help to set timingset,so that can get a high Memory Write .
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/2...mem2400mhz.jpg

mem tweakit works not with whit this bios :( so I can not show my set, but can give me an idea where I should look

opdat new mem tweakIt
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/6540/tweakmem.jpg

are this any good ?
http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=227

Ripjaws/Trident 2000 CL9 vary a lot, some can be very good, some others might not be so great.

maybe this is the wrong thread or should start a different one but findings for me so far

2300 c8 Pi PSC - XDZ136A3G-A = my best kit on air and ln2, likes up to 1.95v on air
2000 c9 Ripjaws PSC - XDY531A3G-U = 3rd best stick, likes up to 1.95v on air
2200 c7 Pi PSC - XEF052A3G-A = works okay nothing special, self reboots pi over 1.92v on air
2000 c6 pi PSC - XEJ008A3G-A = slightly worse then 2200 c7 kit, self reboots pi over 1.9v on air
2400 c9 Sec5 PSC-XEE783A3G-A = 4th best stick, likes up to 1.95v on air
2400 c9 Sec5 PSC-XEA511A3G-A = 5th best stick, likes up to 1.95v on air

my question is the 3rd letter arbitrary? I do know for a fact that running my best pi kit XDZ mixed with best sector 5 kit XEE and XEA = instability no matter the voltage and temp. ( will not run 2600 8-12-8-28 even 1.95v -50c ) Perhaps its best to atleast keep the first two letters the same while running 4 sticks. From my point is XD is the best but my sample size is very small.

Hoping Hiwa, Sam, Don will chime in.

I never had any instability of this sort but from my experience - XD series tend to be "trp crippled" (light case - 1333MHz won't run trp 7, severe case - 1200MHz won't run trp 9 on air) more frequently than the XE stuff.

on Ivy best are XDY and XDZ here, all +2600 8-12-8 tight secondary, some have problem on tertiary (depend on lock)
on SB best were XEJ if i rememebr good, caz lower freq (2300 or so) but tighter tRCD.

tried these 2200 c7 Pi PSC - XEF052A3G-A = works okay nothing special, self reboots pi over 1.92v on air

on ln2 10 minutes ago....doesnt like much more cold then -70c, tried volts from 1.95 - 2.1

would not run 32m like the 2300 sticks in pic below or even at 2600 these timings for that matter
http://i.imgur.com/H3NemuU.jpg

7-11-7-28-5-88 failed as well

Also cold bug -95c on them freezes system every time.

These will not do 8-12-8-27-5-84-8-5-16-5-5-6-1-1-1-1-4-4-1-4-4 32m on air 1 stick reboots, 2nd stick fails around loop 5.

Hi,

yey XD... ar the best psc,i have one Trident Kit 3x2Gb with XDX and all stick's run 1300+ 8-12-8-28.My last Trident Kit with XEA are bad 1200 8-12-8-28 with 1.8V:(
Today came 2 Kits G.Skill RipjawsX 2133 Cl7 from 1109 and 1113

ran these on ln2 last night
2400 c9 Sec5 PSC-XEE783A3G-A = 4th best stick, likes up to 1.95v on air
2400 c9 Sec5 PSC-XEA511A3G-A = 5th best stick, likes up to 1.95v on air
they will run 2650 7-10-7-70 but need 2.1v's and once in a while its not stable but still pretty good.

Them Sector 5's are looking good...I wanted to get a pair but could never find them cheap enough.

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Originally Posted by Dumo

These 4X4 BFR I just got, scale up better than 2400 stick..probly the settings

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/1486/zzzzzzz009.jpg

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Same model here but SN: 12421500182472
I'm not sure what should I expect from these, I grab them few weeks back for RIVE build. I still haven't remove heatsp; any thoughts? :shrug:

1500 means they're Samsung. Rated for 1.65V or 1.5V?

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Originally Posted by Don_Dan

1500 means they're Samsung. Rated for 1.65V or 1.5V?

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1.65v labeled on sticker, same goes for XMP 1.3 profile.

http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/6259/62578997.png

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Originally Posted by Gorki

1.65v labeled on sticker, same goes for XMP 1.3 profile.

http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/6259/62578997.png

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Single-sided, or double-sided modules?

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Originally Posted by Reefa_Madness

Single-sided, or double-sided modules?

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double sided.

In this case, they are either Samsung 2Gbit revision D (aka the good ones) or revision E (aka the new and not so good ones).

Tridents 16000 9-9-9-24 1.65 BBSE kit is very nice
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=1#post5173907

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/6937/dsc00801bf.jpg

opdat max MHZ 2600MHZ AIR 1.75v ?but very far from stable

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/3540/2600mhz.jpg

you just maybe set some timings wrong for PSC martin, try auto on third first and 1.90 Vdimm
set 8-12-8-28-1t tRRD:5 tRTP:6 tWR:10 tFAW: 24 tWTR: 6 tCKE:6 then boot if you are stable try first tight secondary timings,

AUTO set = They start not up to 2400MHz, with the set you wrote before, they can 2500MHz 8-12-8....

Sorry for the video-bomb but I think SF3D is doing it wrong searching the serial on these cherry G.Skill PSC :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=IbTGxDtWVTI

Sticks are fine - sure Petri knows his job :cool:

Another funny part of the video - whenever memory gets tortured past the last 7 years of Cebit....Saaya must be around :hehe:

Looks like BBSE to me :D

Could also be GBXHD with PSC, 2200c7 or 2133C7 for example :D - it were not only GBXMD had these HS with black PCB ^^

Its a blue HS, didnt the 2133 and 2200CL7 come in black only?

I also had 2133c9-10-9 psc with black PCB, this is nothing new as well - seems gskill did like they had fun with :D - but you are right, black pcb and blue hs is normally bbse

Asked them twice if worth taking the hs off and these are some rare, very good g.skill with very good PSC iirc ;)
even petri struggled at first but looking what they pushed out of it in the end - was worth it :D

RipjawsX heatspreaders are extremely easy to remove, I had a couple of 2133C8 kits on which the HS would come off whenever you're pulling the mem out of the slot.
If you've been to Kiev, you wouldn't let Petri do the HS removal though :D

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Originally Posted by tapakah

if you've been to kiev, you wouldn't let petri do the hs removal though :d

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Lol )

Bought one more Trident 16000 C9 from ebay de today

How come I didn't see them?! :rofl:

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Originally Posted by Don_Dan

How come I didn't see them?! :rofl:

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because were there less than 30 minutes ? :D
F3-16000CL9T-6GBTDD
11091040

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/968...30314at844.png

german friends check this ebayer guy sometimes he has a lot of PSC and BBSE for sell :D

I see, very sneaky! :D

actually, this stick has been on ebay forever (relisted many times) ... not many people are crazy enough to pay 40 euros just for one stick of Tridents :D

Hahaha, I agree! I think I saw that auction some time ago. :rofl:

oh :banana::banana::banana::banana: that one stick lol , i thought it's a kit hahahaha

Found some 0940 ic on F3-8500CL7D-2GBNQ single sided with black pcb. Will look after the ic.

Happy de-assembling :D

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Originally Posted by stunned_guy

Found some 0940 ic on F3-8500CL7D-2GBNQ single sided with black pcb. Will look after the ic.

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Yay! :cheer:

0940 could be Powerchips but I dont know. Found this also on DDR2 IC in the past.

http://h13.abload.de/thumb/valuef3-8...-2gbn6mff6.jpg

But on the list 10xx ist PSC so this should be other IC.

helpfull thread ty

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Originally Posted by stunned_guy

0940 could be Powerchips but I dont know. Found this also on DDR2 IC in the past.

But on the list 10xx ist PSC so this should be other IC.

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I think you're right, this is most likely a PSC eTT/uTT chip. I've seen the markings before and it looks like there are six vertical stripes in the small dot, as Sam has found out.

Did you check the size of the IC as usual?

2300 c8 Pi's

http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/1378043/

the first set did this at 1.84v

http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/1378044/

and this at 1.815v

http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/1378045/

Great sticks 2300 are my fav

got some 2x2gb trident 2133 9-9-9 bbse.....pcb is blue? is that even possible or did I get swindled lol

dumo had a blue pcb version from gskill:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ll-s-SNs/page2

They are very rare to be honest :)

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Originally Posted by Splave

got some 2x2gb trident 2133 9-9-9 bbse.....pcb is blue? is that even possible or did I get swindled lol

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No, you didn't get swindled. :rofl:
The blue PCB is Elpida's standard PCB for their BBSE sticks. Your kit is probably a rather early Trident kit, right? I have seen at least three kits with blue PCB so far, but they're pretty rare. Can you post a pic of your kit?

Here's a pic of some blue Elpida sticks ( 3 sticks in the middle ):

http://imageshack.us/a/img27/457/dondanvalueddr31.jpg

Score :) thanks guys, post a pic in a sec

I had a couple of 2000 c9 kits with blue pcb, these were early 2010 sticks, here is pic of one the three kits
http://www.abload.de/thumb/gskill12-20115csr2d.jpg

Don't know how rare they are but here is two sets i got

http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/3833/cimg1113y.jpg

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here is the trident
http://i.imgur.com/z9Wdrme.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/5hq70Z6.jpg
Pi 2000 9-9-9 1.65v Sep 2010 XEJ131A3G-A


Some new stuff I just got
http://i.imgur.com/BCQr1D8.jpg
Trident 2000 3x2 c9 1.6v Nov 2010 XFC063A3G-W

Trident 2000 3x2 c9 1.6v Nov 2010 XFC063A3G-W

is it 9-9-9-(24) or 27
Thank you

24 my good man

...and speaking of BBSE...New-in-box $30 per kit w/free shipping:

http://www.mwave.com/mwave/SKUSearch...n#.UV2ZzVeRdNH

BBSE per post #6 of this thread:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...-1.64V-Testing

Let?s hope you are more lucky than I was in germany, I ordered two kits at local online shop around a year ago and received 2000 9-11-9-24 with crap BFR :D

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Originally Posted by Reefa_Madness

...and speaking of BBSE...New-in-box $30 per kit w/free shipping:

http://www.mwave.com/mwave/SKUSearch...n#.UV2ZzVeRdNH

BBSE per post #6 of this thread:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...-1.64V-Testing

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in for 2 :)

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Originally Posted by XBrytanX

well in this case (i took a quick look @ my ebay account..lol ) they look like i sold you this set
BTW i'm on my way to send you PI lol

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your're welcome haha ;)

Hi guys, what about these? BBSE?
F3-14400CL9D-4GBFLS
http://img.tradera.com/images/924/15...fe30afe5a4.jpg

Not something I will buy just interesting to know more about them.

looks like psc

http://i45.tinypic.com/2n1ierm.jpg

1800C9 is a very low bin, don't expect these to be good ... they might even be T-series PSC

Got this psc black pcb with GA marking, probably the last batch of Trident 2000C9 before early RipjawsX 2133 C9 /Sandy released. Eat 1.92V+ for lunch:D

http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/1385328/

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you have to be lucky with all 2000 Tridents ,i pretty much give up on them :( all tho i never had 9-9-9-24 1.6V PCS set ;) and looking at Hiwa and Dumo results that might be the bin to get

I only have a few decent ones....from a bunch of dud:D

Especially, trident 2000C9 bbse, no such luck

Trident 2000 c9 BBSE has been nothing but fail for me as well.

Will be testing some Trident 2133 c9 BBSE by the end of the week, hopefully they are not rejects.

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Originally Posted by websmile

I had a couple of 2000 c9 kits with blue pcb, these were early 2010 sticks, here is pic of one the three kits

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You don't count, you've already had everything ever made! :p: :D

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Originally Posted by XBrytanX

Don't know how rare they are but here is two sets i got

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Thanks for posting, you found some 2000CL9 @ 1.6V kits with BBSE, that's interesting. Looks like G.Skill made those 2000CL9 kits @ 1.6V/1.65V with both BBSE and PSC.

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Originally Posted by Splave

here is the trident

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Thanks! :up:

Hey guys,testing single channel PSC G Skill PID Cl6 Memory air
http://s14.postimg.org/ls179j7y9/DSCN5805.jpg
http://s11.postimg.org/wqpll3yqr/kkx3.png

thats nice, u test single-channel. i can get more stable runs when run dual channel, or its only me? :D

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Originally Posted by hiwa

thats nice, u test single-channel. i can get more stable runs when run dual channel, or its only me? :D

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Hey hiwa thanks,yeah my testing on single and dual channel is similar,but at this time I am limited to single channel,so Ive decided to test each dim in single channel and hopefully get a better understanding of each dim until I sort my problem out

nice bull, tWCL 8?

Pi 2000 9-9-9 1.65v Sep 2010 XEJ131A3G-A
3 of the 4 sticks are nearly as good as my 2300 cas 8's :) score

Hey Splave thanks,yeah it's tWCL8 ,was no way I could get it that high and stable on air @tWCL7.This kit doesn't seem to be strong on tWCL like my other kit of Pis on air and ln2

Hi to all! Which chips uses this Trident?
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/1107/tridenty.jpg

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Batch 0640 but green PCB :confused:

Those must be BBSE.
Quite a lot of BBSE Tridents had green PCB so this shouldn't be considered as something out of the ordinary.

Yeah, I think green PCB is a lot more common than black PCB.

Got a few Blue Gskill 2133 C8 to test

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/7...enshot227s.png

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^looooking tasty as hell man :) nothing beats the blue bombers lol Green or black dumo?

All green 1104~1108 Splave.

Black pcbs 1115 and 1118 not even boot up 2600 8-11-7

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Originally Posted by Dumo

Got a few Blue Gskill 2133 C8 to test

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Ditto :up:

http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/...ps73c74431.jpg

No such luck with green pcb. Some are even batch 690, praying for non-hypers... lol never would've thought I'd say that.

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Originally Posted by Calathea

No such luck with green pcb. Some are even batch 690, praying for non-hypers... lol never would've thought I'd say that.

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You aren't alone in making that statement...have made it myself.

So, to clarify, are you saying that the green PCB sticks haven't worked out as well for you?

What weeks are your black PCB ones pictured above?

well where do you guys get such beauties? on ebay i found none,only :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty tridents,and those i have to fight with websmile and other maniacs... :D just got some pi 2200,better be good otherwise i will drop the hammer on them and call it a day :D

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Originally Posted by Reefa_Madness

You aren't alone in making that statement...have made it myself.

So, to clarify, are you saying that the green PCB sticks haven't worked out as well for you?

What weeks are your black PCB ones pictured above?

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All 1112 and 1114, two 640 and two 690 kits. Green pcb... no not tested, they just seem to be better.

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well where do you guys get such beauties? on ebay i found none,only :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty tridents,and those i have to fight with websmile and other maniacs... :D just got some pi 2200,better be good otherwise i will drop the hammer on them and call it a day :D

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Got lucky with swedish reseller dropping the prices on last kits. Probably the only new kits left in the country :)

^for the cost of 2 sets of possibly good sets of ram, you could pay someone that has binned sticks for confirmed good ones :P

Can we all share our ebay names so we arent recycling garbage lmao XD

I dunno splave, I got them pretty cheap... :)

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Originally Posted by Splave

^for the cost of 2 sets of possibly good sets of ram, you could pay someone that has binned sticks for confirmed good ones :P

Can we all share our ebay names so we arent recycling garbage lmao XD

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I am not active on ebay usa, and I know the guys that play on my homecourt and complain that I want to buy mems there :D - so no need for me to share, but maybe better for others - if not, I wish happy recycling :rofl:

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Originally Posted by Splave

^for the cost of 2 sets of possibly good sets of ram, you could pay someone that has binned sticks for confirmed good ones :P

Can we all share our ebay names so we arent recycling garbage lmao XD

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this :up:

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Originally Posted by websmile

I am not active on ebay usa, and I know the guys that play on my homecourt and complain that I want to buy mems there :D - so no need for me to share, but maybe better for others - if not, I wish happy recycling :rofl:

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=)) I know you know,every single 2000+ kit 2x2 gb has same bidders,always the same,it's getting funny because if we would make a deal before those sellers would not get rich :D

For those who remember my ebay/mem thread at OCX, I can make a similar one here as well :)

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Originally Posted by TaPaKaH

For those who remember my ebay/mem thread at OCX, I can make a similar one here as well :)

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Been missing that thread :up:

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Originally Posted by TaPaKaH

For those who remember my ebay/mem thread at OCX, I can make a similar one here as well :)

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please :)


the pair of this stick wont boot 2400 :P
http://i.imgur.com/t9ahAEe.jpg

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Originally Posted by Alex-Ro

=)) I know you know,every single 2000+ kit 2x2 gb has same bidders,always the same,it's getting funny because if we would make a deal before those sellers would not get rich :D

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That's what you need to drive down the prices...collusion (price fixing) among the buyers. :)