BIOS 1050 on the official site now for download.
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BIOS 1050 on the official site now for download.
*sorry wrong post - please delete.
($%^# BING search engine..)
I went to the Asus Website, went to the motherboard, downloads tab, its there.
/face palm
I mistyped, i meant 1015, my apologies.
Does anyone know if Asus is making a Rampage board with 4 PCI-E x16 slots. Even if only 2 will run at 16x and the other 2 at 8x.
Hi Raja,
Another issue to report with megaraid. I have installed Nvidia 690 and that makes megaraid vanish from all slots except first full speed slot, put back in 7970 and it comes back.
Hi Raja, just want to say you and Asus are doing an awesome job. It's far to often you hear what is wrong with this or that and not what's right, so thank you! :clap:
well what wrong for new Z77 mobo about bios recovery if we setting for OC and stuck at Debug code 10, it'll can't recovery after press power button to turn off
and turn again it still stuck at code 10 same time and loop boot up always. but if stuck at other code oc recovery still working
Thanks :)
What setting in the bios do I need to set in order for my cpu to reduce voltage when idle?
I'm using manual mode, I don't want to use offset mode, because it's giving me problems, I don't like the fact that when you lower the offset voltage it also lowers the voltage when the multiplier is at 16, plus when I reduce the offset by -5 and reboot the voltage is at 1.026 which is not enough for my 3570k 4.5ghz overclock, which causes the bios to freeze :mad:
I did disable Asus Multicore Enhancement and enable Intel speedstep, my core multiplier is down clocking, but the voltage is not, any ideas?
Is offset mode the only thing I can use to lower my voltage when idle?
I run my 2600k @ 4.5Ghz with offset voltage and it works fine. Asus multicore enchancement is disabled and all power saving features are enabled.
Have a play with the offset voltage as it's a very useful way of managing your overclock
Raja quick question after a failed and resetting CMOS, upon booting into the bios I notice that vccio, vccsa, vcore are at high values (1.25vccsa 1.35 vccio 1.38vcore) until I do a load optimized defaults and then everything is back to true default voltages.
Yeah, it is normal to shoot the volts up, probably just to boot. Every time I clear CMOS it will show those volts on the first boot no matter what BIOS version you run.
I have a card reader Akasa AK-ICR-07U3. When connected to the USB connector Asus P8Z77-V Deluxe computer either does not start (error b4) or runs a very long time. After disconnecting the reader everything works fine.
thank you Shammy, this board has been a blast, waiting for a rampot but in the mean time . . .
http://i.imgur.com/Q5ZtZ.jpg
Thanks, Raja, for your help here.
Passing on some info -- a few of us on OCN have had some odd voltage popup warnings using Aida64, AI Suite, and the P8Z77-V. For me, both the voltage popups and the anti-surge shutdown (though I only had 1 of these) went away after uninstalling AI Suite. (My bios is 0906.) Otherwise, great board!
Also, there has been some discussion there on Vdroop and LLC -- I was wondering if Digi+ control of the VRMs improves undershoot in the transition from idle to load. I noticed your guide recommends 50% LLC -- could you provide any more details on the pros/cons of LLC choice related to minimum stable load voltage and temps?
Is there no way to adjust VCCIO on the non-ROG boards? I've got a P8Z77-V here and am quite surprised that this option is missing, seems to be missing for the Pro as well.
This seems like a really bad joke to me... Thanks for the input though!
They probably just didn't see it. Lets wait for Raja's comment.
That's why I posted, I'm not jumping to any conspiracy theory conclusions just yet. Actually, I was gonna use the board to disprove some of those conspiracy theories ;) Might need to get another board now though...
Use only one monitoring tool at a time, as they all poll the super IO at the same time. You can also turn off AI suite from polling some of those rails to prevent the misreads if those voltages are beign read by another tool.
As for LLC: I find 50% to be optimal from a thermal perspective. Full load voltages should be around the same (close) regardless of which LLC level you choose, while idle VID will need adjustment to ensure that the target VCC is adequate under full load. Technically, higher levels of LLC require a faster switching frequency and/or bulk capacitance to maintain overshoot and undershoot thresholds. While these are all accounted for in the levels we provide, I find myself sticking with a middle of the road approach as it is kinder to components.
I only have the Deluxe here but HQ tells me: Adjust VCCSA to adjust VCCIO. VCCSA is provided by a stepdown reg off VCCIO. When VCCSA is at stock so is VCCIO. On IB VCCSA/IO adjustment does not seem to do much. I think most vendors have done this (or something a little more crude) on their lower end boards that supply IGP voltage.
-Raja
Yeah I've experienced the same issues with AIDA64 and a P8Z77-V. I've made a post on the Asus forums and received the same advice - to only use one monitoring software. Its does seem a bit weak though? I've never had these issues before on p67 (asrock) or older 775 Asus boards. I am currently on 1050 Bios and latest AI Suite but atm I've disable the alerts (antisurge is still active). I've had one anti surge shut down in 72 hours.
If it really is more than one software polling issue then the official documentation should alert people of this.
Will the issue ever be resolved? or is it just don't use programs like Aida64. After all every single video demo with JJ for Asus has Aida64 used the stability and monitoring tool? How can you advise against something on one hand then use it yourselves?
Hi,
Without sounding rude, maybe a more pertinent question is how many ways does one need to monitor the same voltage at the same time? That's why a workaround is provided in the tool to stop it monitoring rails that other tools can be used for if one likes having many things open or in-use at once (one can also select which modules to install in AI Suite).
-Raja
Yeah but its still tripping the anti surge protection with probe 2 uninstalled from AI suite.
Its not just the voltages - it has also told me I have a negative degrees C motherboard temp.
Note also - JJ from Asus uses Aida64 too in his demos..
I've also raised this with Aida64 tech support.
Don't get me wrong great board - just struggling with this issue.
AI suite CPU temp is DTS offset for PECI. Again if you are polling this aggressivley with any other tool it will misread (even more if system is under full load of stress tests). The Super IO can only serve one request at a time, where two polling tools over lap one of the tools used will misreport.
JJ used the tool but that does not mean his system did not misreport if he allowed both to poll at the same time. He knows about this as well as I do. I don't use both to monitor at the same time and that sorts it for me.
When you install AI suite deselect the modules you intend to hand over to AIDA or if you can alter the polling interval aggression until it does not misreport. If you cannot, the only option is to use one tool, even if that appears "weak".
As for the system trip, how do you know it was down to Anti-Surge?
-Raja
Thanks for a more detailed response.
Don't get me wrong I love the product but it seems like greater resilience 'could' have be built into the AI suite to have it work nicely with other 3rd party monitoring software. I also know that we are talking about a fraction of Asus motherboard owners who actually use other software and it comes down to a cost/benefit scenario - I can understand.
Now that I am going to disable the AI Suite Probe 2 - what other settings do you suggest so the Anti Surge protection doesn't kick in? Although it seems greatly reduced as I've only have 1 in 72 hrs. Just disable it in the UEFI?
The PSU is new (1mth old) and its a corsair ax850 - so a pretty decent quality unit. It hasn't given me any issue with my last P67 system running the same CPU and GFX. Are you saying the two systems (probe ai suite and anti surge) are not linked? The poster above also had anti surge kick in too (although only once).
hi!
just got my sticks of tridentX F3-2400C10D-8GTX paired to a 3770K & Maximus V Genez77
the problem is, ram wount run @ stock settings wich are 2400mhz 10.12.12.31 2T 1.65v
each time i try mainboard gives back 33 error and loops between on & off, what is causing this?!
cpu is @ stock speed.
Thanks.
Let me explain this in more detail, because the effects can be much worser than you have currently seen (negative voltage report, warning). It's also not just about how many monitoring tools one needs to run concurrently.
The EC controls much more things (than system monitoring) including crucial parts of the machine. The conflict one experiences when running more tools concurrently is because of the nature of the EC-Host interface which is a pretty old KBC IO method that lacks advanced synchronization. So if there are more clients trying to talk to the EC concurrently, they can break the protocol. It might happen that the EC receives invalid data from host in such scenario and this can can cause all sorts of unpredictable results including serious system faults. That's also one reason why this issue should be handled.
One can have the AI Suite running and just try another tool which talks to the EC too and it can result in such situation. So it's not necessarily about having more applications running for monitoring the same rails.
I'd like the industry to understand this caveat of EC protocol and pursue different access methods for EC (shared BRAM for example, or something else depending on EC model), but I understand this is not easy.
So at least implementing a simple global inter-application mutex into applications willing to handle this situation (and sync) is the least effort (max 5 lines of code).
Double post.
Thanks, Raja -- that's very helpful. I'm using manual mode, as my 3570k needed only 1.24 Vcc @ 4.7ghz in that mode, whereas in offset the lowest I could get was 1.27 (at 0% LLC), while also keeping the idle Vcc stable. Apparently the VID curve was a little pessimistic for this particular chip.
That experience brought up another question/suggestion -- could a BIOS have 2 offset controls: 1 for Vidle, 1 for Vload, and interpolate in-between?
Thanks again,
David
Those values are Intel controlled so not much we can do about that. With some CPUs you get to a point where using too much negative offset results in the perfect load voltage but an idle voltage that is too low, that's one of the compromises. You would not be able to just create idle and load values, the hold times between load ramp states all have to be programmed (these are accounted for as part of C-states and SpeedStep)
Which UEFI (BIOS) version and which slots are you using? For a dual channel kit use A2 and B2. Use a single module to update to the latest UEFI. If the XMP profile is not stable on the latest BIOS you may have a weak IMC, in which case try using some of the looser memory presets and see if that encourages POST. If it does not, then I'd possibly peg back to DDR3-2200 or so with tighter timings (it will be faster than forcing very loose timings to get DDR3-2400 working).
I have a Sabertooth, and 2x4GB 30nm Samsungs. Ive been trying to get 2600Mhz stable (or at least more so then they are). The x24 multi wont post for anything, so I just skipped ahead to x26 which at leasts works. I can only get it to do Spi 1m, then it locks up after a couple minutes or when trying something more stressful. Loosening timings more, or pushing more vccsa or vdimm makes it where it wont get in to Windows.
So should I not even be adding any vccsa? Is there something else Im missing? With 4x4GB Crucial's (D9PFJs) it can do 2200Mhz 9-9-9-27 stable easy, with 1.65v or less . The 2x4GB Samsungs will do 2200Mhz 9-10-10-28 with 1.6 or less. For 2600, Ive tried up to 12-13-13-38 1.675V, with 1.1Vccsa.
Try keeping the same voltage delta between VCCSA and VDIMM as you increase and see if that helps at all. As for the DDR3-2400 issue, I would set most to the subs manually and see if it helps. Also see if you can get more stability with "receiver" and "transmitter" slew. I am assuming you are using the latest UEFI also.
http://kingpincooling.com/forum/show...&postcount=135
Make sure to update using EZ flash. Also make sure system is stable, use safe settings and one DIMM if need be.
i've update the bios through windows (and changed bios boot image) all went ok , the bios is very good, much better than the 0703.
BTW if found what was causing error 33 and loop on / off :
in memory preset i didn't check the "maximus tweak" i'd turned it on mode 1 and from that time i was able to run TridentX as default, and XMP profile. i didn't check that before because with samsung stick by playing on those setting was causing me serious stability problems!
well after settings here and there some settings this is what i was able to get , but it needed 1.75v ddrvoltage and some adjustments on VCCIO.
Thank you so much for your precious help, it really worked out! :)
Using Lucid Virtu MVP
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The instructions in the motherboard manual pretty much explain what needs to be done to enable Virtu MVP for use with a discrete graphics card. The monitor should be connected to the discrete graphics card. iGPU Multi-Monitor support needs to be enabled in the UEFI. If changing the default memory size for the iGPU this needs to be done before installing the Virtu MVP software. Doing so after the software is installed will break it and require the software to be uninstalled/reinstalled. It seems neither SLI nor CrossFireX are supported. I was not able to get either configuration working.
Install the latest available WHQL driver for the discrete graphics card.
Install the latest available WHQL driver from Intel or the driver included on the motherboard disk.
Install the latest release of Virtu MVP available from the Lucid website.
Experimentation will be needed depending on the game. Performance may be best with Virtu MVP disabled, only Hyperformance enabled or both Hyperformance and Virtual Vsync enabled. The game must be enabled in the Virtu MVP application tab’s list with both D and H selected for Virtu MVP to be activated. If overclocking the CPU additional VCORE may be necessary to maintain stability when using Virtu MVP.
3570K
P8Z77-V DELUXE
4x8GB G.SKILL Trident X F3-2400C10D-16GTX
ASUS GTX580 Matrix
OCZ 256GB Vertex4
OCZ ZX 1250W Power Supply
32GB ram at 2400MHz on the . LLC set to high, Internal PLL Overvoltage set to Disabled, VCORE Offset +0.110V, memory voltage at 1.55V, 47x CPU multiplier and 2400MHz memory speed. All other setting at default using XMP profile #2.
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3D06 - Lucid disabled
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3D06 - Lucid Hyperformance enabled
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3D06 - Lucid Hyperformance and Virtual Vsync enabled
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3dVantage - Lucid disabled
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3dVantage - Lucid Hyperformance enabled
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3dVantage - Lucid Hyperformance and Virtual Vsync enabled
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3d11 - Lucid disabled
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3d11 - Lucid Hyperformance and Virtual Vsync enabled
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Unigine Heaven - Lucid disabled
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Unigine Heaven - Lucid Hyperformance and Virtual Vsync enabled
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New AISuite II --> http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mis...IUM_XPWin7.zip
I don't have an asus board right now but I would still like to thank Raja@ASUS for his forum support
Going to give this a try. Got two 3770Ks and it still wont post with 2400Mhz, and now 2600Mhz doesnt want to work either. Funny enough, both 3770Ks are the exact same batch.
EDIT: Used the guide in your sig for the second and third timings, no post. Tried adding a bit of VCCSA, no post. Added a bit of PLL, and got stuck in post loop.
Ive tried for about the last hour to get 2400Mhz or 2600Mhz to post. Most recent attempt was,
CPU 42x100 @1.15V (only 1.1V needed)
Memory Frequency - 2400Mhz
Timings,
11-13-13-33-2T
RAS to Ras Delay 7
Ref Cycle Time Auto
Refresh Interval Auto
Write Recovery Time 16
Read to Pre Time 8
Four Act Win Time 32
Write to Read Delay 8
CKE Minimum Pulse Width Auto
CAS# Write Latency Auto
RTL (CHA) Auto
RTL (CHB) Auto
IO-L (CHA) Auto
IO-L (CHB) Auto
tWRDR (DD) 3
tRWDR (DD) 7
tRWSR 8
tRR (DD) 3
tRR (DR) 3
tRRSR 7
tWW (DD) 5
tWW (DR) 5
tWWSR 7
MRC Fast Boot Enable
DRAM CLK Period 10
Transmitter Slew (CHA) 5
Transmitter Slew (CHB) 5
Receiver Slew (CHA) 5
Receiver Slew (CHB) 5
MCH Duty Sense (CHA) Auto
MCH Duty Sense (CHB) Auto
Read Additional Swizzle Auto
Write Additional Swizzle Auto
DRAM Current Capability 120%
VDimm 1.675V
VCCSA 1.1V
Auto everything else
I set everything at 2200Mhz, save and reset. Get back in BIOS to change to 2400Mhz or 2600Mhz, reboot and it takes about 6-7 seconds before the PSU clicks everything off, then fans spin, and then hangs with the red LED by the memOK button on. Have to switch off PSU and wait a bit before trying to get it to post again, and it gets to "Overclock Failed, Press F1". I started with slightly tighter timings and less voltage, and slowy loosened them and increased voltage to this point.
P8Z77 WS Beta Bios 0703 fixed my LSI Problem on my P8Z77 WS some days ago
It was build on the 14th (the day i got it from the support) - just forgot to post it here :)
Hopefuly the fix is coming for the sabertooth also :)
So what's the best way to turn off polling in AI Suite? I prefer to AIDA because I have it showing info on my G19 screen, but I always want to make sure Fan Xpert is able to work correctly.
Is there some info about the Anti-surge "feature" somewhere? How does one know if it's activated? I've been having some issues with my system shutting down over the past week (mentioned it in the HOCP thread), and I was thinking maybe it was the new PSU I have, so I've swapped back my old one to see if the system still shuts down. The first time I had this happen, the system restarted, but all the other times, the system turns off and it won't turn on any way I try until I power off the PSU and turn it back on (which is why I was looking at the PSU at this point). But since I use AI Suite and AIDA too, maybe I'm looking at a SW issue? Well...I'd think it'd still power on though?
Go to settings in AI Suite and disable everything but but Fan Xpert 2. When Anti-Surge is activated normally a message stating so will appear on the next boot. If you are not seeing this message something else is most likely the problem.
Is it normal to have VCCSA automatically set to 1.1000 in auto setting for 2600MHz DRAM? It's P8Z77-v Deluxe BIOS 1015.
Ugh, ok, I haven't seen those messages. I know it's not my first PSU because it's shutdown on me using my previous PSU. I've gone ahead and reflashed BIOS, cleared cmos, set to defaults, disabled a few on-board devices I don't need, and for the heck of it turned off the anti-surge. Fingers crossed that something magical happens, I guess if something still happens I may have to look at the mobo itself? Only other non-mobo things that changed a week-ish ago that I can think of is going back to the 1050 BIOS I was using to see if it still happens and the talk about AIDA vs AI Suite made me remember I had moved up the refresh rate on my AIDA to every second a week or so ago, I think it was at 2 seconds previously.
Just build a new system on a M5G, but it will not startup at all, with a videcard installed. Tried a 4870x2 and a 9800gtx but I can only ocassionally get the fans to spin a bit then stop. If I pul the videocard out, the fans spin up and the post sequence seems to be going thru ok, but I don't have a HDMI connection to check it out. By default it should boot fine from either GPU or iGPU, and I have reset the cmos to no effect :(
Is the motherboard stuffed?
Try updating to the latest UEFI using USB BIOS flashback with a Fat32 fortmatted drive. Rename file to M5G.CAP
If no start up at all, check all power connections and that memory (clicks in on both sides) and GPU are firmly seated, also check socket for bent pins and reseat CPU.
-Raja
there could be a short in the pcie slot, use another pcie slot.
I'll give it a try, but seems like it should work alot easier than this. tried different PSU's, RAM and Videocards, and I'm very careful about installing CPU's so I pretty sure there are no isssues there :) and as I pointed out, seems to be related to having a Videocard installed.
Yeah tried that, same story :(
rma with the seller, hopefully they replace it with a working board.
Purely stock settings at this point, in terms of CPU and RAM. I talk about it more in the HOCP thread, but basically after apply defaults, the only changes are to disable a few of the on-board stuff. Which temp would you like me to go by, CPU or motherboard? Unfortunately, I am in a bit of a hot room, and spent a few hours playing games tonight, so that my mobo temp was at 51, though it's low 40s now that I'm just web browsing. Ideally I'd wish it to be a little cooler, but I don't think those temps are issues, are they? And really, as far as on Sunday, the one time it shut down it was within the first 90 min of use, don't know what time for sure, and it wasn't too hot yet and idling. And then it was fine the next 12 hours, including playing games when the system was definitely hotter.
Raja@ASUS
therealJMC reported that he received bios 0703 for his P8Z77 WS resolving issue with LSI raid cards.
I believe that the same fix has been prepared for other Z77 boards. Could you please provide me with the fix for P8Z77-V Deluxe? I really apprecialte it.
I have not received it, otherwise I would have posted it. From what I hear still in test, don't have an ETA yet.
I'm a proud owner of a brand new P8Z77-I Deluxe, and I've got a couple of questions about it.
Perhaps this is a bit offtopic and/or has been asked before (I couldn't fine any info on it), but...
1) Is something similar to ASRock's "Good Night LED" ever going to be implemented on the latest Asus boards?
(It's a feature that simply turns all of the PC's LEDs (Power, HDD, Lan, Keyboard locks) off during Sleep mode)
2) Is there a way to make the board turn the PC on with a random keystroke or mouseclick? Because I haven't found one :(
Thanks in advance :)
Anyway, thank you for response, as usual.
By the way, do you have any idea if this kind of error in System Log is CPU-related or MB-related?
The error (warning, to be correct) is generated by WHEA-Logger, Event ID 19. Seems that parity error occurs, and then is corrected by ECC of CPU cache.Code:A corrected hardware error has occurred.
Reported by component: Processor Core
Error Source: Corrected Machine Check
Error Type: Internal parity error
Processor ID: 1
The details view of this entry contains further information.
Processor ID every time changes from 0 to 3, it is not that exact core is failing.
I constantly receive such warnings when I stress my overclocked CPU (by Prime95, for example). At stock frequency there are no such.
I tried 3 different 3770K (BOX and OEM), and all of them generated such warning when overclocked. I even started to think mobo is the reason (RAM is 100% Memtest86+ stable).
Could you guys please look into your System Log and check if there are such warnings generated by WHEA-Logger? Though the parity error was corrected by CPU logic, I think that such overclock cannot be considered stable.
Ok, I relented and borrowed an HDMI cable and wheeled my LCD TV round to the PC. It did indeed work fine with iGPU/ HDMI, and after trying to set PCI-E and GEN1 it still failed. Going back to iGPU again and checking everything I could see, I decided to load optimised defaults and give it one last attempt.
It worked lol :)
Now running on PCI-E and starting to play, still a little cautious but seems to be holding up so far and all ready had to cmos clr once lol.
Fingers crossed its fixed now :)
1) I've enabled ErP, but unfortunately the Power LED is still blinking annoyingly during Sleep. Isn't it possible to add a BIOS option to just keep it off?
2) Here's everything the P8Z77-I Deluxe has in the APM section:
http://localhostr.com/file/930/7xUol...0522202449.png
Note: when enabling ErP, the last two "Power On By..." options get automatically disabled and vice versa, but no "Power On By Keyboard/Mouse" option in sight :(