I got mine about 10 days ago, still haven't found the time to install an OS and see how it goes.. :)
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I got mine about 10 days ago, still haven't found the time to install an OS and see how it goes.. :)
Yes please. :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mumak
Try this preliminary build: www.hwinfo.com/beta/hw64_395_1615.zip
It has some improvements to the NCT6776 values and particular CHiL PWM VRs. However I need more feedback on this to check if I make correct assumptions and labels are correct, especially for the CPU Vcc, DRAM, etc.
Please let me know how it works and if the values reported are correct - can be verified by putting load on CPU if Vcore is correct, or belongs to a different input. Also compare the other values with correct VTT, VSA, etc.. If possible create screenshots, best would be with the ASUS monitoring tool...
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Originally Posted by beaker7
Should this work with the Supermicro X9DAi board also? C602 chipset, should be the same as the AsusQuote:
Originally Posted by Mumak
Depends on what you are asking for :) Basic stuff should be working like CPU, Mem, Chipset, etc detection and reporting.. Haswell is already supported ;)
But sensors will probably be different and require tuning. Even using the same sensor chip, the particular inputs are most probably connected in a different way. If you send me report files from that mobo, I can check and tune it if possible.
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Originally Posted by Movieman
I did about a week or so ago..:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Mumak
No rush, was just curious..I'll try the one you posted here and reply back as soon as I've had my coffee and the old eyes actually function properly!:D
Ok. Just let me know if there are any issues and I'll check that. Will need a Report File (maybe a Debug File too) and if possible a screenshot from the manufacturer tool which shows correct values (if not possible, then BIOS pic).
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Originally Posted by Movieman
will do.Thanks:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mumak
This is what I'm working with:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...76#post5096576
Anyone know if this board will support the E5-2637 or E5-2643 chips. Neither are on the cpu list and no response from asus so figured to see if anyone actually tried it here. Have some applications where I need memory I/O but not cpu compute so no sense in spending the $$ where it's not needed.
Hard to say steve...
There's a new bios out
My 28nm AMD pci-e 3.0 videos still don't work in this board :( This problem existed with the sabertooth x79 but it was fixed in that board 2 months ago.Quote:
http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Int...8_WS/#download
Z9PE-D8 WS Formal BIOS 0503 release
1. Support LSI Mega RAID Function.
2. Add memory ECC enabled/disabled info in BIOS.
3. Update Intel RSTe 3.1.0.1085 Option ROM for SATA & SCU.
Thanks for that catch saw the 0405 but not the newer one. So it looks like it's a competition between this one and the SM board. SM=known cpu support, no 'official' support of sli, and only 6 slots, or asus with no known cpu support; 7 slots and sli. argh!
"wolde you bothe eate your cake, and have your cake?"
2670s over here.. Just started crunching some data :).
specs regarding the pcie slots are very confusing even after looking at the block diagram
guys would you please confirm if this mobo is 4x full 16x pcie 3.0 ??
if it really is 4x 16x how does it handle 4x high load gpus ??
Yes, from the manual, You can only have 4 cards installed if you want 16x to all of them. The cards must be in PCIe slots 1,3,5,7 (nothing in slots 2,4,6). (page 38, section 2-18). Also since PCIe is on the CPU itself you need to have 2 cpu's slots, 1 & 3 are going to CPU0 and slots 5 & 7 are going to CPU1.
awesome! only the sacred 1 3 5 7 slots.. the others well they dont exist
thanks stevecs i appreciate it!
does the mobo handle 4x 250-300watt gpus without additional mobo power ??
Well the crystal ball is not so clear here, but PCIe v2.1 spec requires 150W per 16x slot. So assuming asus built the motherboard to spec you should have 150W for each slot (assuming your psu is delivering that to the motherboard). Additional power per spec would come from secondary power to the cards (6pin=75W, or 8pin=150W) or 300W total supplied per card.
If you're filling this thing up w/ quad gpu's and high res displays, you've /GOT/ to post you know. :P
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Originally Posted by stevecs
This has been known I posted the manual page back on page 3 of this thread..
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=1#post5067450
I'm still having a problem getting pci-e gen 3.0 28nm AMD cards to work in this board and Asus Support has not been able to help :shakes:
My E5-2660 ES sample is limited Baseclock.
Has anyone with dual Xeons done any 3Dmark testing? Im really curious to see what cpu scores you guys get with dual 8 cores (even though they dont overclock- WR on water is 3500 Mhz)
:)
I'll be shooting for just over 3600MHz VERY soon...:wasntme:Quote:
Originally Posted by aussie-revhead
Darn i need higher clocking E5s - my dual Xeon E5-2650 stuck down in 2400-2500mhz territory LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
Yea, but you got a hell of a deal on those from what I heard! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
I hear that. But I am content w/ waiting until IB-EP.Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
That could be a LONG wait! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by lowfat
damn :( just how long are we looking at ? how naive of me dreaming of haswell-epQuote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
at this pace amd will catch up.. more like arm will catch up
It might be be March or maybe June-July..Quote:
Originally Posted by NapalmV5
i take it this year.. cause when i upgrade from s1366 it will be nothing less than dual s2011 never ever again single cpuQuote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
any new dual s2011 mobo/s coming this year from asus evga ?
btw thanx appreciated
ygpmQuote:
Originally Posted by napalmv5
beware of MovieMan PM
last time I got a PM from got a dual 2011 with two E5 32gb of ram and bunch of things I did not need xD
Now hold on a minute here.. I put Leviathan in touch with a guy who gave him the deal of the century, all new stuff and and a good grand off of retail..Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] leviathan18
I rest my case! :D
ooohhhhpppffzzzzz..... get a room you two!!!!! and take this thread along with you.... all this free stuff makes me sick. :cool:
:D:D:D:D
Dam, *nudges movieman*
Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2
indeed i did :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
Sorry for the necro post, but seemed the best place. Has anyone got PCI Express v3.0 working w/ graphics cards on this board? the GTX670's that I have work fine in 2.0 mode, but am looking at getting a 3rd or replacing them with the 7xx series (or if I can hold off even the 8xx ones) but may need to look at a different board if I'm going to be stuck at v2 link training.
Just looking for a confirmation that it /does/ work and if possible with what cards or what needed to be done if anything.
getting 2 760 thursday I will check for you to see how mine fares
What's going on in here? I just got two of these boards for two different sets of CPUs, what's up?
I was reading some of the Newegg reviews about things not working, but the damn thing booted perfectly from first boot... running like a champ.
The board from a cpu point of view works fine besides the fact that I can only run at 105 BCLK. The only 'issues' I've seen are just two. 1) none of my GTX670 cards are showing up w/ PCIe v3 training which could be due to the cards which is why I was looking for confirmation on that. And 2) when I have a powered USB 3.0 hub plugged into the system the usb 2.0 ports (where keyboard/mouse are tied) don't get power until after the bios loading (actually until the usb driver is loaded in windows). which I've got an old ps/2 workaround for that in the interrim until I can figure out what's going on.
the PCIe v3 is much more critical to make sure it's supported as I'm looking to upgrade to the maxwell cards when they come out and will need the bandwidth for a 12 or 24MP display system.
guys is there going to be a new revision of this motherboard for ivys.. i know it supports v2 ib-ep but going by the specs and notes it sounds like there should be a revision for the new ivys.. anything on that ? is this going to be the only dual s2011 till haswell-ep besides tyan/supermicro ?
I haven't heard anything about a new revision in any of the communications I've had w/ asus concerning the PCI v2 -> v3 issues. Would be interested if there was but I kind of doubt it. workstation motherboards generally are pretty static. I've got the V2 CPU's in the current board now (E5-2643 V2's) and they worked without a problem right from 5103, and I see that 5206 bios adds support for the rest of the V2 lineup.
thanks man.. did you get ram into the 2xxxs on the v2s ?
so the board was released what almost 2 years ago then again ib-ep just 2 months recent - should i wait till next year - i could wait forever
Supermicro X9DAX-iFQuote:
Originally Posted by NapalmV5
Working 107.55BCLK at 100% load with the top E5-2697 V2 12 cores
Memory at 2007
Need I say more? :D
^^ Yes you do!
how are you Dave? I was under the impression you were very ill.
@NapalmV5 - I'm using ECC ram here so kind of limited as to what i can really push it. And with 2x4channel memory I haven't really seen any big issues where pushing it was really needed. ;) That being said, I have noticed that the v5206 bios does seem to let me get a bit higher with BCLK, I haven't really stress tested it yet but am getting better than the 105BCLK that I was stuck at before. Will have to see what I can push it to.
@Movieman - Yes, the supermicro boards were in my lineup for a long while but I just hate that it can't do more than just 2 cards in SLI. If they would get their boards certified for quad sli then would have probabaly gone with them.
nice cinebench Dave! http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=1#post5213624Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
whats up with the lower ram clock on these ivys? should be speced and clock higher than sb-epQuote:
Originally Posted by stevecs
4x 1.xx Kw PSU's ? Isn't that too much ? I'm just asking
its not about x number of wattage to power up the system
why i have 4x ax1200i - silence - keep fan at zero rpm even at full load so i spread the load across
http://i.imgur.com/F5EdhYM.jpg?1?9490
zm1350 theres no other better choice to go with other than zm1350 to power the mobo i cant rely solely on the mobo and psu to run voltages amok
next week after ill have it up running ill decide how soon ill go liquid cooling on the system.. again silence!
Nice purchase, I thought about the 2687W V2's as well, but went with the 2643V2's for the higher starting clock since I figured it would be harder to push the xeons. Personally, I've never tried non ecc memory with xeons, out of curiosity why did you pick those since you can get ECC at DDR3-1600 speeds, granted at a slower timing (11-11-11, not 8-8-8, or was that the reason?) Also I try to stay away from low-voltage (1.35v) memory for DDR3 but that's mainly as I usually end up loading up a system and the more banks you fill xeons will down-clock the timings (1600 becomes 1333, then 1066, then 800). I am concerned about $ but the extra 50W or so wasn't really worth it. (now at work, it does add up when you have TiB's of ram. ;) )
The board I got shipped with 5103 bios on it and had no problems recognizing the 2643V2's even though they were not supported until v5206. I was able to flash the bios up and then continue on my merry way.
Let us know if the Radeon 290's train at PCIe v3 specs. The word I got back from Nvidia is that only the GK110 chips will train @ v3 speeds (all GK104's are locked to PCIe v2 and it's up to the drivers to 'white list' each chipset, which only certain X79 & MB's are on it, the C60x's are not. ) So depending on what gets released in the next quarter or so will swap out my cards here.
wow watta relief thanks man! x 2.. if they would offer a 6-core at ~4.0ghz wouldve gone for the 6-core but at 3.5 just 100mhz extra i can gain that performance and then some with the low timings memory and thats why i went with non ecc low timings low voltage and 8x4gb instead of 8x8gb.. ill be pushing for 1866+ 7-7-7-21 fingers crossed!
will do.. plan was to wait till a full gk110 6gb/12gb titan refresh but i couldnt wait on nvidia any longer and at this ridiculously low price of the 4x 290s was way too intoxicating to pass up
oh, now that's purdy! :) what kind of monitor setup are you planing on driving with it?
Tease us with benchmarks too please. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by NapalmV5
By the way, Chris Roberts (guy making Star Citizen) said he received a 4 R9 290x setup from AMD. Sounds like an indication tha they're trying to push multi-GPU optimizations through Mantle. It'll be awesome to see.
double TRUE Copper = EPIC WIN!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by NapalmV5
omg.................Quote:
Originally Posted by napalmv5
thanks yall
@stevecs - just a 1080p mits laservue 75" hdtv for 1080p-1440p for now
http://i.imgur.com/xzIGy67h.png
just overclock no overvolt
http://i.imgur.com/nzwJmT1h.png
napalm - what can you clock all 16 cores to? What does it pull in 3D11 physics?
:)
Looks like asus just released a new bios update (5304) that's supposed to help compatibility with VGA's and the V2 chips.
what you see above at cinebench but that disables 2 gpus/cards.. default/auto settings the mobo runs the cpus up to 3600Quote:
Originally Posted by aussie-revhead
nothing spectacular: http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/7557266
it does better at 3dmark will post on that
nice to see them improving but they are gonna have to do even better.. i had to remove cpu2 just to get tomb raider and other games to workQuote:
Originally Posted by stevecs
still pcie3 training issues.. tomb raider/witcher 2/just cause 2/portal 2 - so far cause i spent all my time reinstalling windows/steam redownloading games to no avail
i installed all 4x 290s on the gigabyte x58a oc running at 4x 8x pcie2 - no issues everything runs fine
sure its a workstation mobo but everything thrown at it should just plainly work
its all about this pcie3 bubonic plague and neither intel asus amd nvidia are on the same page
I agree that there is some serious communication issues here with PCIe v3 implementation. I've opened issues myself with nvidia, evga, asus, and intel but to no avail really and no real help/pointers.
I wouldn't however classify asus as a 'workstation' motherboard vendor. They use the term a bit more loosly for marketing reasons. Generally I think of Supermicro, Tyan, and to some extent intel. They seem to understand the stability items better, but they have their own problems in not understanding the market of multiple graphics cards. Gigabyte/Asus/MSI/Evga all are mainly supped up prosumer boards, but they also seem to not hit the mark in the bullseye.
Here's hoping that they can get it 'right enough' to be a functional board for the next 3-5 years.
BTW/ how high can you get your base clock? I'm running into issues here (not able to run memtest & mprime for 24 hours each) when >105.
i can only dream of 105 lol 102 max at least all 4 gpus enabled this is the max on this latest 5304 bios.. the system boots up and wants to boot into windows even at higher bus but above 102 i lose video - pcie preventing any higher
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/1761366
http://i.imgur.com/H1RMxC0.png
http://i.imgur.com/7aCZLfeh.png
octal channel ram power lol 109GB/s coming from 15-20GB/s x58a hahaha
would love to see what you guys are getting.. no idea how it compares
http://i.imgur.com/YtFWM68.png
Nah I don't think so, I could be wrong though.Quote:
Originally Posted by NapalmV5
I don't think Intel has NUMA support...
But from that screenshot it kinda looks like it does...
Oh and nice setup btw :up:
thanks numa enabled
112
http://i.imgur.com/vWJtA12h.png
111
http://i.imgur.com/ZYEBRDC.png
http://i.imgur.com/CtP7NRV.png
http://i.imgur.com/7J8C4IDh.png
Wow!!! How did you manage to run 112bclk ? Is it only one graphics card ? Is that the limiting factor ?
i removed the 290s and got a single 580 on
like i said pcie3 is the bubonic plague on pc
well this is encouraging.. 580 sli at 111x36 unigine doent include the turbo clock hence the 3773 (111x34)
580 @ cpu1 - pcie #1
580 @ cpu2 - pcie #5
http://i.imgur.com/NYq4iXj.jpg
How the eff are you able to take the bclk so high w/o instability?
I finally got off my ass and setup my Z9PE-D8 WS for the first time this year. :p:
[QUOTE=lowfat;5219444]How the eff are you able to take the bclk so high w/o instability?
That's my question as well. When I push it to 107 I start getting issues here (can't run > 24 hours w/ mprime and/or memtest86). How long of a burn-in test are you doing at each bclk setting?
I haven't even been able to boot past 105. And even then 105 was only possible w/ the memory ratio @ 800.
guys the answer is right there above^ gtx 580 - asus mustve properly tested and they properly support 580 otherwise i wouldnt be able to do 114 bus
get on the phone with asus with the right peep/s and dont get off the phone until you get a list of all the gpus/cards theyve properly tested they properly support - 580 is one of those i guarantee you
also i let the mobo run auto timings and i kept "force ddr 1866" instead of lowering to "force 1600" the timings were too low and wasnt stable
what codes do you guys get above 105 106 bus ? i get a double 00 at 115 and no post
do your systems keep on posting but you dont get any video ?
Pretty much any nvidia card will clock up on the pcie bus btw...
I don't know the details of clocking up the pcie bus on intel systems though.
After 115mhz you might need a step up in voltage on whatever is handling the pcie bus in that cpu.
And sometimes you might need a step up in the pcie voltage it's self too for the card, but that's usual only when it doesn't have it's own power connectors.
The vga's mem might eat more voltage and can be system timing sensitive too.
For example on my amd I need a step up in voltage on the chipset-nb, which handles the pcie bandwith from my card.
If were to stick in a smaller card with no external power plugs on it, one that draws all it's power form the board, to get a higher speed I would need a step up in pcie voltage as well.
This should be similar on the intel rigs, I don't know what the equ of the chipset-nb voltage would be though in the intel cpu it's self.
I don't know if you have access to any skew controls for your bclk and pcie clocks either though, but I think they could help if you had them.
I'm getting my 2011 rig together (if everythign goes right) on thursday.
I'll eventually try to figure out how to clock the pcie bus up on my own.
If I can figure it out I'll let you know.
Because I think you're not going to beable to get passed 115mhz unless you're lucky (but then again, it's a completely diff pcie setup from mine).
But I can say one thing, any nvidia card will clock on it's bus speed.
Pcie ones at least 150mhz, agp 105-115mhz, "pci"... 200mhz or so at least.
Minus the ones with crappy ram, those won't clock good...
I get 00 or 01 if I try to go above 105MHz. Even if I remove the GPU and use the onboard non-existent VGA it will not post.
sandys ? try different/better ram + gtx 580
114 bus + 580 sli
http://i.imgur.com/gT8gnoch.png
http://i.imgur.com/mDzsB8N.jpg
i went back to the first z9 and got the same limits same results
2x z9
2x 2687w v2
2x 4x4gb crucial blp 1600
2x true copper
2x gtx 580
114 bus max
http://i.imgur.com/90BilPMh.jpg
I tried Napalmv5 and only stable at 107, more than that, post but can't access to Windows. Graphic card is Hd5770
guys if you wanna get past 104-107 you gotta get gtx 580 or another gpu/card that allows higher bus
Can I borrow your GTX580? :D Yes, I am teasing..well mostly!Quote:
Originally Posted by NapalmV5
Hi guys... I'm spec'ing out my dual 2011 build and am debating Asus Z9PE-D8 vs. SuperMicro X9DAX-7F. Is the main advantage to the Asus the fact that it supports SLI? The SuperMicro has 2 PCI-E x16 slots but they appear right next to each other; not able to handle a dual slot card like I'm planning (EVGA GTX780 HydroCopper). I'll be running Xeon E5-2687W v2's and Corsair Dominator Platinum 2133 RAM (same as Movieman has I think).
If you are trying to run SLI then I would say yes to the Z9PE-D8
i got the 3gb 580 on now and its doing just as well as the 1.5gb - all 5x 580s that i have are reference so any ref 580 should do high bus on the z9Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
like i said before r9 290 only 102 bus max - past 102 cpu2 gpus got disabled - past 103 was a no go because of video output loss
How are you guys forcing x38 multi for 8c/16t on the 2687w?
l0ud_sil3nc3 - on mine only 2x turbo - 36x
i wanted to see how far i can push skyrim - goes to show just how cpu bound the game is like so many games
check it out: http://www.overclock.net/t/1165090/y...#post_21693334
^^ Your killing me! :D
lol :D oh come on lets see them 12cores mine!
All I have right now is 10 core E5-2670 V2's and 8 core E5-2687W SB chipsQuote:
Originally Posted by NapalmV5
I had to send the 12 core E5-2697 V2's back BUT you bet your bippy that when the GTX580 gets here if I can do over 110 I will get those
12 cores back and go and set some records! :)
Man that board plus those CPUs would make for a crazy folding@home rig.
24 cores in action, max 110 with hd5770, 111 the system hang. Hope asus can give a new fw compatible with new pci-e3:D
http://imageshack.us/a/img28/7469/kph6.jpg
I have 2 480s im not using....