AMD Officially Denies Bulldozer Delay !

of course AMD is going to deny it.. would be foolish to announce a delay when they know there are people on the fence that have been waiting that otherwise might be persauded to pull the trigger on a 2600k w/ HT instead of waiting.. Frankly i dont think AMD will ever catch up.. they have been behind to many years now. Think Intel is just way to ahead and just keeps pulling rabbits outta their corporate hat! Hope Im wrong but the trend would say Im correct :(

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Originally Posted by viccan

Frankly i dont think AMD will ever catch up.. they have been behind to many years now. :(

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Really? You have to remember this is the beginning of a whole new uArch for them.
Keep in mind what a huge performance jump we saw from Agena to the C3 stepping once they tweaked the design/process...

Even though AMD doesn't have the funds Intel does for developement, they have some daym good engineers who are willing to take chances.
BD is a ballzy move for them. It may not be perfect at first, but I wouldn't be so quick to count them out.... :p:

They've bitten the Big Dog (Intel) before, I still have faith in BD's potential!

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Originally Posted by Formula350

Well since I can't get info out of him we only can assume it's either the Turbo he was referring to (though he said overclocks, so I dunno), like you said the multipliers, or the (as I understood it) pre-production SuperMicro board. Pretty sure it's not a server board though since it has mutliple full bandwidth PCIe x16 slots, so it'd be a Workstation board. Those could have overclock options (at least back in the day they did) :) I posted this in the other BD thread, but I'd give a kidney for this thing, screw a damn iPad!! lol

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Well turbo is auto overclocking :).As for PCIe x16 slots, there are boards with them, its used for raid arrays, for opencl, cuda ,SSDs etc.
As for overclocking, amd forbids any overclocking options on their server/worksation sockets, JF insists its bad for business.Its possible that there exist boards with multi option for internal testing, but its hardly believable he owns it for himself.

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Originally Posted by viccan

.... Think Intel is just way to ahead and just keeps pulling rabbits outta their corporate hat! Hope Im wrong but the trend would say Im correct :(

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Yea yea, been said after K6-2 when intel had PIII and was on top for long time.Than Athlon happened.Never say never.

the world has changed alot too since those days. who here actually needs a 1000$ cpu thats only 20% faster than a 300$ cpu, when we have workstations that can offer 2-3x the performance and actually justifies that price increase. also with high multithreading moving to the gpu, the actual needs are being removed completely in some cases depending on application. for all we know, in 2 years fusion could prove to win in so many tasks that it wont make sense to have more than 4 fast cores, and just pack in as much opencl goodness as possible.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/news/...ember_2010.png

We need CUDA to die first, though. It's holding us back. Closed standards suck.

Wow, I am suprised it took so long for him to appear.... :rolleyes: