Yepp again, my tube of my favorite TIM disappeared so I didn't put on any new as i changed from a Corsair H50 to H70 :rofl: Temps are still alot better than with H50 :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Smartidiot89
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Yepp again, my tube of my favorite TIM disappeared so I didn't put on any new as i changed from a Corsair H50 to H70 :rofl: Temps are still alot better than with H50 :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Smartidiot89
Looks guys :), AMD Family 15h doc, more than 300 pages
http://support.amd.com/us/Processor_TechDocs/47414.pdf
In case ou haven't seen yet,
More info on Desktop Bulldoser...
AM3+-confirmed-support (this was obvious...)
Insteresting part - "Finally, we’ll share some interesting tidbits from our conversation that you may or may not know. The Bulldozer architecture (complete with eight cores) is being designed to be highly multithread-capable. The pinouts on AM3 and AM3+ are different. However, AM3+ CPUs will physically fit in an AM3 socket."
ATI-Forums-Pics-of-Bulldozer Looks like the pins will fit AM3 after all... that is, if this is what production chips will have.
yes, but u must to have electricaly activ pin contacts to the motherboard at AM3 and 13MB flash memory. Zambezi has 940 pins (u can calculate it from screen :) ). AM3 socket has 941, but not all contacts are activated standardly (Thuban and AM3 Denebs has 938 pins)
That is true, but at least this might help settle the aspect of it physically fitting;) Still can't wait till launch and can try one out on the CHIV....Quote:
Originally Posted by FlanK3r
But I think, we will see some diference between AM3+ 990 and "hacked" AM3+890
I believe so too. I will be getting 990 series board when they come out, since I can't resist..:p:Quote:
Originally Posted by FlanK3r
hehe, Im too, looks at Crosshair V Formula or so :-). Hope, I will be lucky as with my x6 1090T :-D
I believe that too!Quote:
Originally Posted by FlanK3r
But I'm also curious to see the difference between:
new revision am3+ 770/ 870 and hacked am3/890fx!
I cant think an entry level (50€) mainboard could be better of a crosshair IV only for different socket...
Main difference will most likely be that most(if not ALL) AM3-motherboards with "hacked" support as you call it won't be able to utilize Turbo Core 2.0 in Bulldozer.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlanK3r
and second maybe full HT link (Zambezi will be think min with 2600 or 3200)
Since it's running HT 3.1 the max you will see is 2600, I doubt we will get that high though. :shakes: Current AM3 boards can pretty much all do 2800+ :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by FlanK3r
I recall chew* saying max stable and highest you'll see gains is like 2.7ghz.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
and from what I've read HT3.0 top speed is 2.6ghz so maybe that will be stock for bulldozer.
and maybe we can Over clocked 3.3-3.5ghz :D
iirc the first to do 3ghz was actually an athlon II
Trust me we can already do that ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by demonkevy666
Here's my 965/890GX doing 2.9 in 3D
I just had my M4A89TD at 3.38 Ghz, I went for 3.4 but CPUNB is very unstable at that point and I locked up.
I can not recall if I hit 3 Ghz on my 965 or not, if I did it wasn't stable due to CPUNB instability...Quote:
Originally Posted by stangracin3
Here's 30 min P95 Blend - I'm not gonna stay up for 3 hours so test ends here
Yes thats 79 processes, install couldn't get dirtier
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/5031/ht3100.jpg
In addition to supporting previous HyperTransport interfaces, AMD Family 15h processors support a newer version of the HyperTransport standard: HyperTransport3. HyperTransport3 increases the aggregate link bandwidth to a maximum of 25.6 Gbyte/s (16-bit link). HyperTransport3 also adds HyperTransport RetryQuote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
So...If I understand correct, this is up to 3200 MHz...
not sure if this is old news but first i have seen for am3+ with 880/850 chipset. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...490&Tpk=am3%2b
I guess you are right...Quote:
Originally Posted by FlanK3r
HT 3.0 is what is on current boards, HT 3.1 is what you are talking about...but I can't remember if Zambezi will use 3.1 or not.
I'm confident I can get 3200-3400 out of my board easily, my run at 3100 I was running 1.25v when stock is 1.20, it was just a set and run, didnt test for lowest volt. Remember, HT must be equal or slower to uncore speed, so unless AMD ships a 3000+ uncore speed I think we will all be very safe. ;)
As far as the Turbo -
ASUS Beta BIOS 3012's had two Turbo options ;) I have a feeling "Turbo 2.0" could also be implimented on these boards
which is uncore? HT or NB?
cpunbQuote:
Originally Posted by manicdan
While my 555BE wouldn't, this Athlon II X2 250u (1.6GHz) I had would let me boot with a HT speed higher than my CPU-NB, on a Gigabyte 890GX-UD3H (like F3 BIOS, long time ago). I've done it from Windows on that config too, using CPU-Tweaker and AOD. That was my first new system from S939, and I was learning everything fresh, so I made a note of the fact that with that 250u @ 2.9GHz, the CPU-NB at 2175MHz and the HT @ 2355MHz had better memory performance than 1:1.
As for 'Dozer talk... I'm bummed that my ASRock 890FX Deluxe3 won't support AM3+ :( At least, it's highly highly unlikely it will, considering they released Deluxe3 with black socket and marketed as AM3+ :\ Then again, black socket doesn't mean everything I guess. MSI's 890FXA-GD65 is white and the board is silkscreened with "AM3+ Support" above the NB heatsink.
for me is AM3+ socket now the next future. Need max performance, not compromise...Remember, AMD had long,long, long compatibility. They can not be still on one socket. ANd still we have part compatibility (AM3 CPU to the AM3+ socket). Look at Intel. Last years again and again new LGA :)...
Flanker, AM3+ IS in 99% percent the same socket as AM3.They messed around with one pin to have less headache support wise.It uses the same architecture,same HT topology, same chipsets,and is compatible with am3 cpus.So its the same damn thing.Theres no new breakthrough technology behind it.
Maybe youre talking about 9xx chipsets and not am3+ socket alone.However, it looks like at least northbridge will be exactly the same, we will see about southbridge.
In essence, with 90% probability, there wont be any difference performance wise if you plug the chip to crosshair IV or a 990FX board.
Define stable?Quote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
What you consider stable and what AMD is diff.
Add 4 way gpu to the mix and 3d benches will crash at specced voltage.
Last but not least they're HT bus is more than ample and does not show massive gains except in IGP clocking due to the fact that the HT bus is not saturated even in heavy 4 way crossfire.
Ithink, we will see some diferents. UEFI bios:D. No, seriously, I dont know how about Turbo core 2.0 and Cross IV and how about some OC potential against 990FX+AM3+. We mus waiting at Computex or E3 (hope for launch this days)Quote:
Originally Posted by XRL8
Okay? I already know there are no gains...but I was wanting to show that over 2700 is possible :shrug: I run a midrange board with 2x16 slots, no way to do 4 way anyway unless I had a pair of 6990.Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Did I consider 30 minutes of P95 stable? No...not at all.
UEFI doesnt have anything to do with socket :shrug:, it doesnt give more performance either.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlanK3r
Turbocore is just a gimmick, just like intels turbo, you can clock cores individually manually.It doesnt change the IPC or bandwith.
OC potential of the board doesnt have anything with the socket too, its about build quality and engineering not socket revision.
I have a feeling that SB950 will have somewhat improved SSD compatibility and trim support, maybe faster regular HDD too.However northbridge looks to be a copy of 890FX.
UEFI was my joke (smile-need better to read).
Turbocore is default value of performance CPU and turbo at Zambezi will be really impressive.
You should used this smile ;) :mad: ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by FlanK3r
As for the turbo,it isnt really useful for enthusiasts/overclockers.But yes it has the potential to boost somewhat stock performance.As for the usability of it on zambezi ,we dont know squat as of now,so how do you know its "impressive" ?.
Turbocore 1.0 was pretty disappointing tho.
You could run 24 hours of it or 365 days of it and it would mean nothing because you are taxing the HT link the wrong way.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
In order to test something for stability you need to know what hits a nerve on it and how to hit that nerve.
As far as knowing whats possible we all know what can be done from previous IGP comps however passing 3d 01 doesn't define stability considering having no vga in a slot takes alot of stress off HT link.
chew that depends.Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
if you have a locked processor overclocking the bus gets you a nice increase in speed, but if you have locked you're right.
We are talking about HT link not bus though.Quote:
Originally Posted by stangracin3
aka 3800 HT speeds not 400 HT bus.
weknow this: server Bulldozer boost for all cores is +500 MHz boost and with half or lower cores is higher. This mean maybe +700 MHz? And think +500 MHz boost at 16 cores of INterlagos is impresive.
the.wait.is.killing.me!
500 mhz boost is great but what is the nominal clock?Quote:
Originally Posted by FlanK3r
We also know that server bulldozer doesnt need new socket nor new chipsets to utilize this new turbo.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlanK3r
I dont however think there is any hard data about 16 core chip having 500Mhz boost at all cores, it would just mean that it runs 500mhz faster :shrug:
Youre making assumptions based on rumours.Thats not healthy.Better to expect less and get more.
I love AMD, and also fully think that Intel changing sockets so much is not the best, but the difference is probably from pushing tech further. While I know 'Dozer will be quite a leap, keeping the same socket I think is going to mean making some compromises (AM3+ or not) :\ Had they gone with a new socket there might have been more performance to be had thanks to addition pin counts, but only way to tell would be to do something like take an 8core C32 and 8core AM3+, then pit them against each other. I know that server sockets have a bit more in terms of capabilities (HT link is tweaked), but the server chips (SR5792 or something) is basically an 890FX :)Quote:
Originally Posted by FlanK3r
Look at it a different way and AM3+ is 99% the same socket as Socket 939/940! :eek: That's a LONG time ago lol I think that is exactly the reason why ASRock was able to make a motherboard for Socket 939 that used the 785G and 790GX NB chip lol If I knew for a fact either of my S939 CPUs worked, I'd so get one of those boards :DQuote:
Originally Posted by XRL8
So everyone knows (to clear up confusion). The HyperTransport is HT, and the reference clock bus is HTT. So stock speed is 2000MHz on the HT Link, and 200MHz on the HTT :)Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
I think the first round Interlagos/Valencia run at 1.8GHz (might be 1.6) for the lowest model, so 500 or even 700MHz I don't see as being a stretch of the imagination, even on all 16 cores. A lot of these server chips are meant to conserve power, (as a result) run cooler, but still be a power-house for a processor. All of that seems to be nooo problem for the 'Dozer architecture :DQuote:
Originally Posted by XRL8
So, as crazydiamond said: "the.wait.is.killing.me!" :slobber:
While this is the 'Dozer thread, I think Bobcat shouldn't be forgotten either since it's rather similar (Maybe call it BullCat? >_> Hey... it's better than BobDozer!).
Here's the Socket FM1 for Llano.
http://www.cpuforever.com/showthread.php?tid=896
Though the person who counted pins is off by one, as there are 13 missing corner pins, not 12. That leaves us with a "Socket 905". Seems as though S1_G4 (S1G4) socket is only 638pin though o_0 (for the Danube chips, like the Phenom II mobiles). That's quite a number of addition pins. Presumably for the integration of Northbridge (PCIe lanes), IGP and anything else I'm not thinking of. Hopefully Llano has more PCIe lanes than Zacate, which I figured had 16@2.5GT/s, or 8@5GT/s available. Based on Sandra's report for this Sapphire board-- x4@5 to the PCIe slot, x1@2.5 to the NIC, x1@5 to the USB3, x4@2.5 to the FCH, and x1@2.5 to the mini PCIe slot (which isn't shown due to not being populated, but I could toss a WiFi in it).
Yup,sockets change minimally last few years on AMD, but in those cases, you were moving from DDR1 and after that DDR2, and HT was upgraded few times.AM3+ doesnt bring any notable differences, so i dont see flankers viewpoint that AM3+ will be "faster" socket.Quote:
Look at it a different way and AM3+ is 99% the same socket as Socket 939/940! That's a LONG time ago lol I think that is exactly the reason why ASRock was able to make a motherboard for Socket 939 that used the 785G and 790GX NB chip lol If I knew for a fact either of my S939 CPUs worked, I'd so get one of those boards
As for the server BD`s, if a chip has a stock freq of 1.8ghz, idles at 1ghz, but at load is running ALL CORES at 2500mhz, uhm, isnt that just 2500mhz chip?
I think turbo will be alot better then on X6, thats for sure.
But you have to know that turbocore 1.0 sucks :/ .And there wasnt any specific hard info/leaks about BD so we dont know anything SOLID on TC 2.0, which is infuriating, as samples ARE OUT.Cmon peeps, give us a teaser ;-D
So it's about 7 weeks to launch, and no useful performance leaks yet?
That's nothing short of impressive. I mean, how is that even possible these days?
heh, with socket for server u has right:). What I know, with "older" desktop socket need 16MB flash ROM to update and al active socket pins (electricaly). Am3+ is ready now and supporting from AMD side. This is better choice for the future and again, with refresh at Komodo, AM3+ will be required (my speculation).Quote:
Originally Posted by XRL8
But back to the infos. About 500 MHz boost:
http://blogs.amd.com/work/2011/01/31...er-goes-to-11/
Some of the benefits of AMD Turbo CORE include:
* Up to 500MHz of additional clock speed available with all cores active. This means even with 16 cores active with server workloads, all cores can boost at the same time. For those customers that want to maximize their performance, they now have the tools to do it.
* Even higher boost states available with half of the cores active. We’re not stating exactly how high processors can boost with AMD Turbo CORE, but obviously if there is room for up to 500MHz with all cores active, fewer active cores would obviously mean less power, and more headroom to recapture with AMD Turbo CORE. At launch you will see processors marketed with a base and a maximum frequency, base will reflect the actual clock speed on the processor and max will reflect the highest AMD Turbo CORE state.
* AMD Turbo CORE is deterministic, governed by power draw, not temperature as other competing products are. This means that even in warmer climates you’ll be able to take advantage of that extra headroom if you choose. This helps ensure a max frequency is workload dependent, making it more consistent and repeatable.
I think, for desktop can be higher than for servers! Think, if we will see "conservative" desktop boost, will be the same as in servers.
So this is 500 MHz at 8x cores and with half modul or one modul will be about +700 MHz boost.
My tip about default clocks are about 3-3.5 GHz for FX (without turbo).
the only logical answer is that its not ready and will be delayed so long that skynet will take over before we see any benchmarksQuote:
Originally Posted by Mats
Not necessarily. They could just be tight-lipped. Feel free to refer to 69x0 launch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manicdan
I agree with this. Amd set a pretty damn high NO-Benchmark-results bar, this time around.Quote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
Theres no future in AM3+ ,at least according to AMD.Komodo will have PCIE integrated and require new socket.AMD hasnt put out ANY info about "future" of the am3+.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlanK3r
As for the turbo, yes youre right it seems ,kind of a smart turbo i see.However if its determinded by the TDP (same technology as in cayman?) on the desktop segment i would not expect more, because desktop parts are clocked a lot faster from the get go.Unless youre thinking we will get like 5ghz on turboed chip.Which i find hard to believe, remember that BD has longer pipeline and higher base clock than the PHII.
With Bulldozer, the chip tries to hit the TDP. i.e., when there's load and it's single threaded, that one, single core will clock as high as possible to hit the chip's TDP. Only time it's on stock clock is when the load is heavy enough (IBT perhaps).Quote:
Originally Posted by XRL8
Cayman strives to NOT hit the TDP - downclocks if TDP reached, but doesn't overclock if TDP isn't reached.
It's pretty much Cayman's power control but it works in the opposite direction :D
This is pretty awesome. I wonder how they'll pull it off with window's thread jumping that pretty much killed Phenom I's CnQ and performance.
I think, maxboost can be 4.5 GHz with one or 2 modules active. But Im a bit spectical-I think, will be up to 4.2 GHz :-)
it was just sarcasm, i have faith we will see them all launch early juneQuote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
While I know this is probably THE worst place to read a rumor from, I was on eBay last night looking at C32/G34 boards (Valencia 8C is C32 only) and the one seller's product description for this motherboard/dual 6100 series/64GB HyperX DDR3 said the board was "Interlagos Ready" for the May 22nd release date..Quote:
Originally Posted by Manicdan
Obviously take it with a grain of salt, but interesting none-the-less :)
3.5ghz is said to be the top bin 8 core chip.Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
NDA's...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mats
hhhmm maybe like how K10.5 is llano cores it will be new socket but won't over come the highest chips without GPU, because they'll be using cards instead of on die gpu.Quote:
Originally Posted by XRL8
I'm thinking this going to be a 8 thread vs 8 cores fight :-/Quote:
Originally Posted by FlanK3r
as for the 990FX better SSD not likey untill the change A link III from 1.0 pci-express to to 2.0 the link from South bridge to northbridge is a pci-express 4x link. in 1.0
they could be able change it to a hyper tranport link to each other, idrk if thats possible.
It isn't only about NDA's, since those get broken / leaked all the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by demonkevy666NDA's...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mats
It looks like they are only giving out info to people who they really trust to abide by the NDA.
While it might be good for AMD, you can bet that Intel already has working samples and are going to do something when BD launches--if it is good.
So what do you think the bulldozer will be priced at?
$300?
x8 250-400
x6 150-300
x4 100-200
wide ranges because of wide clock speeds
Intel's NDA =/= AMD's NDA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kobaltrock
You can already buy s2011 CPUs off Ebay! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Kobaltrock
Sounds too low if it's going to be competitive with s2011 offers.Quote:
Originally Posted by tbone8ty
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kobaltrock
Quote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
You're definitely right.:D
Well I'm still surprised that we haven't seen anything by now, even though AMD of course uses NDA's.
My guess at pricing:
FX-4110 aimed at i3 2120 @ 150$
FX-6110 aimed at i5 2500k @ 200$
FX-8110 aimed at i7 2600k @ 300$
FX-8130P 125W @ 400$
The first BDs is aimed at the intel s1155, the next gen BD aimed at s2011 will hopefully be out in Q1 2012
Before Thuban launch we will seen not too nothing :). maybe last 14 days before launch first leaked R10 and 3D06 results.
That soon? Well there's no reason to wait, but I doubt they're gonna do it that fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by nex_73
Do you guys think they'll release a new platform for the second generation "enhanced" Bulldozers in 2012? Any chance for a chipset with PCI Express 3.0-support? I guess it's still a bit early to speculate but I have a feeling we'll see it fairly soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mats
I'm personally having quite some trouble deciding wether to go full out this year with a 990FX and the 8 core Zambezi or if it's better to wait for the Komodo-bulldozers. I am not sure if I can afford two upgrades so close to each other. Any thoughts?
I think you or I or anybody else will have a hardtime waiting that long especially if bulldozer is awesome. Get this platform and enjoy tweaking your system to the extreme!
Yeah, I have a feeling it's going to end up that way. This platform is seriously begging for some tweaking; especially with the new IMC. Still need to figure out which DIMMs to go for though!Quote:
Originally Posted by tbone8ty
ya im hoping hypers are able to max out c7/c8 with zambezi. i will try with my hypers first but probably upgrade to whatever plays nicest :)
So, were looking at middle May before any specs or benchies hit. Wow.
RussC
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlanK3r
think, firts will be only some CPU-Z or so...But otherside-my 1090T Thuban has long life :-D (now 0.99 year :) )
The roadmaps have shown that we'll see a new 32 nm desktop version next year, and that the server counterparts will have integrated PCIe and a new socket.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warwian
I think the desktop CPU's will get PCIe and a new socket as well, but some people here disagree. IMO, AMD have no reason to stay with AM3+.
Are those Supertalent DIMMs Elpida Hypers? Which of the kits do you own? The WS220UX4G8? I'm looking for a decent 2x4gb kit myself; I'd love to see how close to 3000 MHz it's possible to get with a 1x4gb DIMM and the new IMC. I probably don't have the equipment to get anywhere near those frequencies but it would be nice to try!Quote:
Originally Posted by crazydiamond
Yeah, I agree with you here. I can't see any reason for AMD to stay with AM3+ either. Especially if there are more goodies to come; something other than dual channel-support for example. I guess we'll have to wait and see!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mats
AM3+ is new socket, official support from AMD side. So...I mean, refresh Zambezi to KOmodo will be still at AM3+. Maybe past Komodo see at new socket/lga.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mats
AMD's server CPU's for next year will have PCIe, there's no reason why Komodo wouldn't have it.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlanK3r
Bobcat have it, Llano have it, the competition have had it for almost two years.
It's not a new socket, it's an old socket that has been updated. If it was a new socket it would have support for integrated PCIe.
Can someone answer me this,..
If the 2nd gen BD coming in 2H 2012 will have GPU on die then wouldn't those chips require an updated version of the AM3+ boards (or possibly a new socket and or chipsets) to support them?
Would be nice to know what sort of life these AM3+ boards are going to have, future support or just a stop gap.
am3+ might support early am4 cpus, just like am2+ did (deneb and thuban both had ddr2 and ddr3 memory controllers)
i doubt we will see every single AMD chip being fusion based in the next generation. that would only work if they built some to have very small gpus and others with more mainstream parts
it could however work very well if they built it around perfect TDP sharing.
imagine a 150W TDP fusion socket:
APU A could be 50W cpu, 100W gpu (low core count, gamer quality gpu)
APU B could be 100W cpu, 50W gpu (medium core count, mainstream gpu)
APU C could be 140W cpu, 10w gpu (high core count, north bridge quality gpu)
then comes turbo and how it might factor in
APU A would have a cpu range of 20-80W and gpu 70-130W (real gpu power when you need it, decent quality cpu when you need it, designed for a budget gamer)
APU B cpu range of 50-130W and gpu range of 20-100W (cpu power nearly as good as the top client chips, and gpu power scalable to almost reach gamer quality, a very balanced chip)
APU C cpu and gpu range very limited. offers the best cpu perf/watt at the loss of any gpu power. designed for tasks that dont need a gpu to do anything special, or where dedicated graphics are guaranteed.
If AMD is going to integrate PCIe or graphics (don't say that loud, informal will shoot you down with "Bulldozer is not an APU") they need a new socket according to JF-AMD.Quote:
Originally Posted by ReKcOlNu
DDR4 isn't the big issue here, it's PCIe AFAIK.
Here's what someone from AMD France said:
From here (translation).Quote:
- Why not have integrated of graphic controller in Zambezi whereas Komodo is equipped with it?
- Quite simply because Bulldozer is a new architecture. With all that comprises like risks. We thus integrate the innovations gradually. 2012 will thus have to be waited until to see an APU Bulldozer.
AMD is conveniently avoiding the subject, but have shown in roadmaps that the server CPU's next year will have PCIe and new sockets.
Look for Sepang and Terramar: http://blogs.amd.com/work/fadcodenames/
My fav part of that website :)Quote:
“Valencia”
Market: Server
What is it? Six- or eight-core 32nm processor for 1P and 2P markets, based on the new “Bulldozer” processor core. Will be branded as the AMD Opteron™ 4200 Series processor and will be supported by the AMD Opteron™ 4000 Series platform (“San Marino”) or the ultra low-power “Adelaide” platform for socket C32.
Planned for introduction: 2H 2011
BD ES sample? http://pic2.178.com/64/641528/month_...1a9dc57455.jpg
@ Manicdan, I think that is AMD's ultimate goal with the APU. I don't they are going to include that strong of a GPU, but I think they are looking to have a versatile APU. That's what I get out of their new turbo core 'leaning' into TDP headroom. I hope they can quickly work with software developers to take advantage of the resources the APU will offer. That's going to make all the difference. The APU is no good if software isn't available to work with it.
http://tof.canardpc.com/preview2/10a...20be09c0e1.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Tenkura
Don't know if it's a fake or not :shrug:
Link is not working.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tenkura
Probably a repost http://www.asrock.com/news/events/2011AM3+/
Here you go:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunfire
http://pic2.178.com/64/641528/month_...1a9dc57455.jpg
Only one core and one thread, what's up with that? Very fishy if you ask me...Quote:
Originally Posted by Olivon
Id imagine cpuz is going to need to be tweaked to identify cores in the new modular setup AMD has going.Quote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
:DQuote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
Don't know if it's legit or not, maybe Franck D. knows something :shrug:
I say it is, as far as I know only modules could be enabled/disabled, and with a module being two cores your core count will be an even number - not one. On the other hand, take note that the CPU selection box is available meaning there are multiple CPUs installed - that fits in with the 16GB RAM (server, a home user doesn't really need 16GB) so maye CPU-Z can't detect core count?Quote:
Originally Posted by Olivon
If we don't know how this CPU-Z version interprets a BD, we can't tell if it's fake or not. We can keep on guessing but it won't lead us nowhere.
This is essentially a rumour thread ;)
Of course, but a version of CPU-Z that doesn't support BD won't make any rumours, only confusion.Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] Oj101
You can't interpret the info in a good way if the info is all wrong from the beginning, especially when it's about the first CPU with modules.
If it was just a dumb shrink of a X6 then CPU-Z probably have made less errors, just like in the past when the first K8 on a new process showed up, for instance.
Seems CPU-Z doesn't work properly with BD :
http://tof.canardpc.com/preview2/0ec...d3fa5d6775.jpg
edit : source Pcinlife
lol ASRock portraying 1960's Mini Cooper for AM3 and some kind of ferrari render as AM3+Quote:
Originally Posted by slaveondope
http://we.pcinlife.com/forum-redirec...-30924734.htmlQuote:
Next week to release R11.5 scores
Flank3r must be happy :D
Still not convinced, no other ES has ever shown that way.
hehe, right, Im happy, but its hard show todays news at mobile internet EDGE conection :-D (this weekend Im off my normal net conection)
btw, where is Cinebenxh score :-D?
Llano's ES shows 4 processors, each having 1 core on CPU-Z :DQuote:
Originally Posted by [XC] Oj101
If the guy shows the processor submenu, there's probably going to be 6 processors.
I fell off my chair laughing at that too mate: :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
ROFL @ AsRock
1)- The sockets black - OMG! - The pin holes are larger too LOL!
2)- Since when did the power link need speed? Can tweak that on my CH4 (supports better power management - first thing an OC'er switches off )
3)- Environmentally friendly?! Errr ok
4)- Less CPU noise? - Errrr ok too (Ain't that what LLC etc is for?)
5)- Higher current support? - (Sure my CH IV can beat that )
6)- New Bracket makes the CPU cooler!!!!! - anything you say ASRock
Sick stunt by asrock - Allot of maybe's and the rest is rubbish which any overclocker would switch off. Just because they're AM3 boards 'may not' support the other one decent mentioned feature doesn't mean that others can't.
UEFI - Now that's interesting! - If it supports BIOS boot in less than 2 secs
Please do correct me if i'm wrong on any of this! :up:
I was talking about the CPU ID string :)Quote:
Originally Posted by blindbox
That's whatever AMD programs in. It's probably specific to an internal code that AMD uses for testing, ie which line it was produced on at a certain wing of a factory, date, time week, revision etc. It might even be a type of "watermark" that identifies the CPUs owner during testing. Which may or may not be used to pinpoint folks who break NDA's etcQuote:
Originally Posted by [XC] Oj101
My responses above :)Quote:
Originally Posted by zoomee
Not quite. The similarity is that both affect the waveform of the current, but that's it really. Remember that noise is a harsh, unwanted waveform in sound? The top is ripple, the bottom noise:Quote:
4)- Less CPU noise? - Errrr ok too (Ain't that what LLC etc is for?)
They are talking about power ripple, cleaner power...noise is sort of another term for ripple though they are two separate things...why does that matter if you already have a PSU like Seasonic that is clean already? Beats me.
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r...oiseripple.png
Sorry it's not very neat, I did it in mspaint quickly. As for why you want a board to deliver clean power, well what's the use of a clean input to the PWMs if the output is dirty? A clean input is good for your board, a clean output is good for your CPU.
I just find it odd that it's different to the other ES AMD chips I have. COMPLETELY different:shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawkeye4077
correct :up: Im waiting for Cross V F :)Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] Oj101