ok well i got it today from Fedex and i already see a diffrence from the TRUE 120 Ultra Extreme
its honesly 2-3c diffrence on my System
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ok well i got it today from Fedex and i already see a diffrence from the TRUE 120 Ultra Extreme
its honesly 2-3c diffrence on my System
Any IX results soon? =)
Should be coming in today. I may or may not work on it :)
Mine should be in tomorrow. I'm running an Andy Samurai Master on an Athlon 64 X2 5200+ at stock speeds. Was considering seeing what that monster could do with something small, just for kicks and grins. It's just the first step of a larger hardware update.
this thing is pretty big for sure with the dual fans...I wonder though if it would help if we put another fan on the other side of the fins???? too much fithing between fans im assuming?
3 fans is better than 2 imo! I'm going to set mine up with three fans, the 140mm in the middle and two 120mm on the ends.
I have it with 3 fans and I think some test have shown that it does help, specially when going with higher vcore.
I have a San Ace push/ Scythe middle and Delta pull.
I am planning to get stronger Deltas for push and pull that I can then tame with a fan controller but still have very strong CFM plus a delta 25mm for the middle fan...yeah, I like overkill! :-)
I have it now in the computer and I have to say this is the most air breeze I felt (with hand) on a air cooler ever...pretty impressive. My output fan on the rear pulls the air out pretty good from the heatsink itself so I dont think I will be putting another fan on the heatsink, but overall very, very quiet for sure. so quiet its like water cooled....
Here I am facing problems in temperature i7 920 D0 Batch 3910A261 in a Noctua NH-D14, temps is at 50 ~ 55 º C idle stock clock (Tj Max 100 º C).
Someone can tell me what could be? Case (CM 690 w / 6 fans 70CFM/19 db (A)) is well ventilated, 50 ~ 55 º C in a cpu cooler that is complicated.
I tried to update the BIOS and not resolved.
This temperature is not normal for a cpu cooler that level, right?
Thank you !
Must be mounted wrong. Try remounting, also what TIM are you using?
finally got mine.
significant improvement over a hdt rs1283. about 8-10C cooler loaded.
wow, now i'm decided to get one! thanks to those who shared their experience with this HSF
yep it's worth it
I just hope i can still use my existing RAM
http://www.imageuploadz.net/image-C7B9_4BA6DF06.jpg
http://www.imageuploadz.net/image-04E8_4BA6DF06.jpg
this thing has a HUGE box hahaha, got one for my friend
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/6769/img0036la.jpg
Just finished installing this. It's Idling at 35 and on load aroudn 58 on a stock i7 930. I'm disappointed seeing as how the hyper 212 plus did the same.
Question to any Noctua owners out there: Are your heatpipes hot?
I've got an NH-D14 on an i7 920 running at 4.5GHz, 215 BCLK, 1.375 Vcore, 1.35 Vuncore, 1.7 Vdimm. At idle it keeps the CPU below 45degC. However during Prime95 stress testing (small FFT) I'm seeing the CPU temp rise up to ~79degC. This doesn't seem too far off from other results in this forum at ~1.38V. However, what confuses the heck out of me, is that even though the CPU is baking, the heatsink fins and heatpipes are all still very cool to the touch.
I'm wondering if I did a lousy job applying the thermal grease (tried to spread it in a thin, even layer.. maybe I used too much) but before I go ripping the system apart I wanted to ask if it's normal for the heatsink and heatpipes to stay so cool.
Sorry for hijacking the thread.. I don't seem to have permission to start a new thread, and this seemed like the next most appropriate place to post my question.
Your temps don't seem bad at all, maybe too hot in idle, but no idea if you're using any power saving tech.
Thanks for the reply zalbard. I disabled all power saving, hyperthreading, etc. for the tests above. Will incrementally turn them all back on once Prime95 has finished overnight stress testing. So far it seems solid as a rock, but I'm contemplating dropping down to 210 BCLK and slighly lower Vcore for 24/7 just to be on the "safe" side for temps (summer's coming..). Still, I wish I had better heat transfer between my FPU and the heatsink. Touching the Noctua, its hard to believe it's so hot inside there.
Turn up the vcore and you will see a different story.
If that is with HT off, then those are very warm temperatures. What TIM did you use? Might try a remount if they don't improve. Also make sure that the bolts coming through the backing plate are positioned correctly.
The one that came with it.. I believe it was Noctua's NT-H1. Will try a remount.Quote:
What TIM did you use?
With stock fans at that voltage the temps are pretty ok. It will probably never reach 70 in regular daily use.
Comparing the 212+ with the Noctua is like buying an airplane and using it on the road. I'm pretty sure even the stock cooler is decent at stock voltage.
Can you guys tell me what method you used to apply thermal, other than what Noctua recommends?
Sorry to ask this over a month after you posted it, but I am interested in knowing how high cfm fans with strong static pressure perform in the nh-d14 vs. fans with moderate cfm and strong static pressure.
The review at xbit labs showed that a pair of tr-fdbs at 1800 rpm maxed out the cooling potential of the nh-d14 (they did not test three at this speed, but I am not overly interested in tri-fan performance on the nh-d14 since my rig would not allow 3 fans anyway . . . tall RAM). tr-fdbs are not necessarily champions of static pressure, but Gentle Typhoons are, and I estimate that a pair of GTs would do just as well.
So, how would two GTs compare to your setup in cooling performance?
I'm upgrading the fans on my rig from the stock ones, and I'd like to know if moving to better fans than a pair of GTs could yield any benefits. Currently I am using an extremely noisy FM-121 as an exhaust fan, so I am more than willing to pull that and run exhaust-less with sufficiently powerful fans on the hsf (maybe a san ace + 120x25x25 delta?). If I picked the right products, I might even be able to stay within the same noise envelope.
Or I could keep the fm-121, put in two GTs, and call it a day.
Not sure which I'd really want to do given the fact that at least one source (xbit) seems to indicate that the nh-d14's cooliing performance tops out at a fairly low rate of airflow (compared to, say, a TRUE copper).
The link below might answer some of you questions:
http://lab501.ro/racire/thermalright...a-titanilor/34
Not even the mighty Copper can keep up with the incredible mass of the Noctua even at ridiculous voltages.
NH-D14 modding go with Peltier cooler 100-130w with 2 fans 2000cfm?
don't bother with a tec on it will, still work better with out one.
I know from experience with a mugen 2 and a tec. TEC out put a lot of heat can reach 80C on hot side with heat sink only about 55C.
Im looking to upgrade my older TRUE, its a first gen 120 before the later revisions.
it seems the noctua D14 is pretty much the best aircooler on the market, on the other hand it s freaking unbelievably massive, i mean good lord lol. I would want to have something to hang it from the top of the chassis in fear of board stress over time.
im looking at the new Thermalright venmous-x. From a couple reviews i read, it performs almost as good, but much less mass.
can't decide.
thats interesting regarding weights. I didn't look at the weights of the two coolers, just skimmed to the meat of reviews. You would think the nocuta would be at least 1200g, but its just slightly heavier than the venomous. The mian concern for me is the mass, the venomous is not nearly as large. And performance was only 1 degree off using push/pull in a tweaktown review i read. Granted they used 70lb on the special pressure pad on the venomous, when used with 40lb, the Noctura blew it away.
Kinda of settled on the venomous+ some MX3 paste. I was looking at the corsair H50 for a brief second, but the performance is notably worse than high end heatpipe solutions, and the design kinda of sucks because it dumps alot of hot air into the case, since it can't be exhausted out the rear...poo
No worry venomous is great cooler with proper mounting system. I also owned first revision T.R.U.E... Mounting was really poo.. Then I changed to watercooling "Rs360 & ocz hydro" and later "Mora2 & HK3" and now back to aircooling days with noctua NH-D14 (should be best air cooler with low speed fans unless Prolimatech Armageddon change that with dual 140mm fans..).
I dont like noctua fans.. 140mm got high starting voltage + plus bearings went out after couple hours :shakes: and P12 (S12 silent but really weak) got annoing sound because of the blade design.. But after RMA, people will buy those fans with great price :D
Also SPCR got better results with Nexus fans (Aka slowed Yate loons) and that makes me wonder how good Noctua fans really are
strange|ife i also had the 1st gen TRUE EX :yepp:it has served me well but it was about damn time to let it loose,so the real good choices were either the Noctua D14 ot the Venomous Ex.
i went with the VX,the noctua is just too big for my liking and would have had troubles with the ram modules cause of heatspreaders.
going from a 1st gen TRUE to the VX i won(less) between 8°-13° degrees C° depending on load/application running---->OCCT LINpack test gave me 77° max temp with the TRUE now with the VX i get 65°:D max temp....etc
one very important point:eek: : the VX loves 38mm fans,so if you gonna get the VX plz get a good 12x12x38 fan for the push:up:
for a pull fan you can still put a 12x12x25:welcome:
some of the idiotical reviews on the net that pretend to be hard... enthusiasts are putting low spinning 12x12x25 fans on the VX ...i have no idea why should a person who spends 60bucks on a cooler not spend 12bucks on a good 38mm fan...but since they are hard... enthusiast and im not guess they know better.
anyway VX needs at least 1600rpm fan if youre at around 4ghz with a quad.
also go check the big cooler review from the romanian guys in the review section,one of the best.
if space,weight,mobo components and ram module height are not of concern then go for the Noctua d14 which is the better cooler.
just my 2c on this.
Okay, so I went ahead and got a Delta efc1212d to serve as the center fan for my nh-d14, and it worked out nicely, even with the fan clips borrowed from the 120mm fan that came with the HSF. Check.
Then, I got my Panaflo/NMB-Mat H1BX, and . . . wouldn't you know it, the little rubber/plastic pegs you use to secure the fan clips in the mounting holes on fans are too short to go all the way through the holes on the H1BX. Buggeritall.
So what do I do? Can I get pegs that are longer? If I had some, it would seem that the standard Noctua clips should work.
How flat is the NH-D14 base? Does NH-D14 base need any lapping or is it about as flat as the one on Megahalems?
Someone more familiar with heatsinks can probably give you a more authoritative answer, but in the meantime, based on the one I got.. it arrives flat with what feel like very, very small thin grooves I think.
I am having the same issue as well. I had to remount the cooler like 5 times. I used Mx-2 on this cooler and it spreads a bit differently than AS5. Needless to say it took a little bit of time getting the right amount of pea size glop.
I am getting ok temps here about 27C ambient temps. I'm at 43-39C at idle and about 71-69C load. These are about the same temps as my TRUE. I see lots of people getting better temps and I'm at 3.8GHz with 1.237V on the mobo IIRC.
Admittedly my Cosmos 1000 case isn't the best for airflow but the insides feel quite cool. I have the lower intake 38mm ultra kaze 2k rpm as intake and a push push fan system sucking in air underneath the optic drive to the D14.
The outer fan (underneath the optic drive) nearest the case grill is a scythe 1600 rpm 25mm into another Ultra kaze 2k rpm 38 mm fan. With this setup it certainly cooled my hsf better but I still don't see idle temps around the 35C range with my ambient temps around 25C or lower.
I wonder if I'll get better results with another case or if it's just my C0 cpu. I can hit 3.8ghz at less than stock volts and it takes about 1.35V in mobo to hit 4ghz.
I feel like this cooler is no better than my TRUE rev.B. unless I'm still doing something wrong. I'm using stock fans on the D14
Whats the best way (direction) to mount this in a Coolermaster 922, X58A UD3R and 3 x 2gb Ram?
Check out this site: http://www.overclock.net/air-cooling...-d14-club.html for some answers.
ok guys, i just finished building my pc yesterday, after installing windows seven and trying to see how stable the system is with few programs i must say i am very happy with it .. specially with the noctua performance keeping the cpu temp at 39 C ( while playing Battlefield bad company 2 ) and very impressed when i was running Austodesk Maya Rendering and particle simulation, and it does keep the cpu at 21 C (70 F) idle time .. however i just noticed the middle fan of the cooler trying to start then stop .. trying to start then stop .. i m using the Ultra-Low-Noise Adaptor (U.L.N.A.) connecters and they are connected to each fan wire, and they are both connected to different fan pins on the asus motherboard
the funny thing is sometimes when i start the pc it does start .. sometimes ... it keeps trying ( the middle 1400 fan ) .. there is no overclocking yet .. just testing the system for now
Everest report : Mobo Temp = 25C / CPU Temp = 21 C / Cooling Fans = 917 RPM
anybody experienced such a thing before ?
Do you have Q-Fan enabled in bios?
Are the two ULNA attached to their corresponding fan?
Sounds to me like you have Q-Fan enabled. That with the ULNA adapter isn't giving the 140mm fan enough volts to start.
i removed the ULNA adapter for the 140mm and actually its working ok now, i just enabled the Q-Fan control in the mobo, altho i guess Everest is showing me the 120mm RPM not the 140mm ?
here are some snapshots
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f2...f/into_eve.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f2...ios_snpsht.jpg
this thing is so fat... i couldnt even get around to plug in a lot of cables in my case... i had the toughest time getting that front audio jack on my case into the integrated sound card...
heres the thing. I got asrock x58 extreme 3 with i7 930 and the temp are way to high.tried 3 times puting on the thermal paste.
currently 21*191 @ 1.344V idle 46C, load 81C.w
what could the problem be?I used the splitter the connect both vents into one fan power plug.is there any difference in which one I plug it into?
where do I check the vent speed and at what rpm should it be?
please help :)
You would have to plug them into a header separately that can read both rpm. I wouldn't use a northbridge fan header just in case. I used one for a regular fan and it was super slow. I had to plug the fan into my molex for the correct rpm.
The 14cm should be about 1300rpm iirc and the 12 should be about 1400 rpm.
At least I think that is what mine are running at. Make sure the cpu header you are using to control the fans are making them spin up based on heat in case or if you are using a pwn controller than that may be your problem if the fans aren't running at full speed.
Are you using the ULNA for them by chance?
thnx for the reply, how do I set up the fans to spin up based on heat in the case?
If you have the fans plugged into a 4pin adapter on the mobo then that is usally a pwn controller I believe. Then depending on the settings in your mobo bios, you can probably allow the fan to spin based on a certain temp or full speed all the time. Certain boards will allow this and some won't.
Sorry if this has been posted but noctua are releasing a new cooler based on the DH14 but smaller so people with heatsinks on their ram can use one.
Pic from computex 2010 courtesy of hexus.
http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p...g?t=1276877929
Would you get a good decrease with another NF-P12 on the fanless side.
For a push pull pull config?
I saw a review somewhere that showed great gains, let me know if anyone has tested this theory
Thanks :D
Just an observation, but having lapped my nh-d14 for my own crazy reasons, I have observed the following:
Pre-lap, the thing did an outstanding job of spreading shin-etsu x23-7783D using the "grain of rice" method. I used a tiny amount and it worked like a charm spreading the TIM on a lapped x4-635.
During the lap, I found it damned near impossible to get the thing totally flat. The curve is hard to work out of the metal . . . or at least, it was for me. Though I was successful in removing the nickel coating, it still has the curve I think (albeit a more muted curve).
After the lap, I have only used the nh-d14 with Liquid Metal Ultra. In fact, it is because of the Ultra that I lapped the HSF. Nevertheless, it fares extremely well so long as I brush very thin layers of Ultra on both the HSF base and the IHS. It is quite possible that the lapped nh-d14 would not do so well with x23 anymore, but my x23 is officially retired so I don't mind so much.
Hi guys,
Short question: could you tell which orientation is the best for i920 on Asus Rampage II Extreme ?
I think it's universal for it to be air from right push to left... down to up causes potential hotspots.
In this position i have better temps:
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_ewMJ_gKYs2k/TB...0/s1024/a2.jpg
He is talking about his top exhaust fan on the case. Look above the ram and CPU and you'll see a couple of 120mm fans. And guilleguillaume, even though his exhaust fans are helping to remove heat from the ram area, its not the most effective method for ram. It does help, but its more of an overall exhaust and the ram are still gets pretty hot. But the ramsinks he is using along with the good exhaust system are way more than enough for regular use and even some mild OC'ing of his ram. So no worries about the heat in that area unless he really plans to push that ram. Besides, if he really feelt concerned, then he could just grab a $15 ram cooler to solve the problem. I dont think he needs it though.
There is no problem with ram, and any hot spots ;) I have corsair ram cooler, but in this case - there in no need to use it. Here you have how it's looks:
http://www.abload.de/img/fractal10016x8y.jpg
That thing is scary looking. Do like :yepp: I really like Noctua's stuff, I'm quite fond of the NH-D12. On air I had a very similar airflow setup and it worked great without any worrying hot spots. I did use my Corsair airflow fan but it was a tight fit. To be honest, I don't know if it was even needed but I used it anyways.
Yeaaah, but with exhaust ports, it isn't as simple as an arrow... because the pull is very spread out and weak. Plus, I like being able to read noctua from left to right without tilting my head.
Any charts on how this performs against the venomous using push/pull also?
Noctua with some other fans:
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_ewMJ_gKYs2k/TC...4/DSC_3468.JPG
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_ewMJ_gKYs2k/TC...4/DSC_3451.JPG
and with cooler:
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_ewMJ_gKYs2k/TC...4/DSC_3469.JPG
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_ewMJ_gKYs2k/TC...4/DSC_3478.JPG
testing in progress...
¿Malik do you appreciate a performance gain with the replacement of the Stock fans?
I've seen those fans last week here: http://www.noticias3d.com/noticia.asp?idnoticia=40065 And they seem really cool because are all made of Rubber.
Anyway they look much better than th brown Noctuas and match with your Enermax magma. It's nice that the same serie of fans have the 120mm and the 140mm one.
@Malik
What model is the 140mm fan? It is nice that we have four choices of 140mm fan - Noctua P14, Scythe Kaze Maru and Scythe Kaze Maru 2. The KM2 cannot be used with Noctua clips, and the KM must have its ears filed down to work with Noctua clips.
Irrelevant for us here stateside - no vendors.
I hope it turns out ok, but their track record is very bad: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coo...oundup_26.html
After looking at this thing and reading reviews I have a question:
How well would this work in a Silent PC configuration? I'm talking about running it without any fans. It seems to have more then enough surface area.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=247562
http://lab501.ro/racire/thermalright...a-titanilor/33 - the fanless comparison specifically (i7 920 3Ghz 1.03v, open stand, 86.2C)
translate from romanian...
The NH-D14 is probably the best option for fanless operation, but a couple or a trio of 500-800RPM fans would still be quiet, and work to 4Ghz.
is possible to install dual real 14cm fan without destroy the fan retention system?
I ran my 920 with 1.2v load at 3.8ghz and temps were kept under 80C after a 1 hour run of LinX with full memory load. Room temp was 22C. This was in a HAF 932 though but I did have the top, rear, and side fans connected to the board and slowed. With a 5870 I played BC2 for hours for several days on end without ever having a problem. I think the longest time was 5 or 6 continuous hours. Never had any artifacting or crash.
My 5870 never gets over 35% fan speed during game play so I couldn't hear my system at all. My system does sit on the floor next to my desk so I've got some room between me and it to let noise dissipate a little.
No you have to use a round frame 140mm fan. Square 140mm fans don't work.
I actually ran fan testing on my D14 with various 140mm fans, including several with square frames. They were lifted up at one corner, but were OK. If I had wanted to use one of them I would have had to cut the frame.
I did cut the frame of my Scythe Kaze Maru 2 1700 rpm fan to allow the Noctua clips to swing around properly (pic). I also filed down the ears of my Kaze Maru 1900 rpm fan to allow the clip pegs to push through enough to use the Noctua clips. All doable.
But I discovered that although I could get somewhat better performance with a better fan, i got a lot more noise. For equivalent noise you should just use higher performance fans in push-pull and leave the center position empty. You get a cute little hurricane in there when you do that, and great cooling performance.
i want the D14.
i also want PI G.Skill Ram which has an annoyingly high ramsink, but nice low latency spec. @1.6V
on a GB X58 UD3R Rev. 2.0 MB.
im assuming there might be clearance issues. perhaps an equivalent ram with lower sinks anyone got the knowledge? / alternatives?
thx m8
found some mushkins with good timings too..
Mushkin Redline 6GB (3x2GB) PC3-12800 (1600MHz) DDR3 Triple Channel RAM, 3x240-pin DIMMs, Non ECC Unbuffered, 6-8-6-24, frostbyte heat spreader, Low Voltage 1.65V.
Unless the new ones are taller than the old silver (blue?) ones you just need to turn the cooler south. Granted I have an Asus board but I have no problems with those Pi (I think they are ~60mm tall).
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z...SANY0017-1.jpg
Just use the regular 12cm fan clip for the Megahalem. No modification is required. Simply put the fan clip in the ridge along the NH d14. Sorry I don't have a photo since I switched coolers but it very easy.
I have a thread on mounting fans to a D14 - with pics.
I have 2 TRUX clip, can it be used as well for modding the D14 for 3 fans configuration ?
Hi thanks, your pics is very helpful for a new user of Noctua D14 to clearly describe the space between ram and the hsf, I am watching the thread as well.
Btw I'd like to ask the same question, can I use TRUX clip to mount the third fan on the Noctua D14 ?
http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=n...s_id=60&lng=en
Test-ing FTW :D