You guys are acting like this is some kind KKK or skinhead forum , its not. It's a water cooling forum. Are you guys so sensitive as to care what somebody thinks about you over there? It time to grow up. If you dont like it over there, dont go.
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You guys are acting like this is some kind KKK or skinhead forum , its not. It's a water cooling forum. Are you guys so sensitive as to care what somebody thinks about you over there? It time to grow up. If you dont like it over there, dont go.
Actually you've got it backwards.Quote:
Originally Posted by brewer265
so calling every single person that they dont like a F--G-T in capital bold pink letters is OK?Quote:
Originally Posted by brewer265
how about using racial slurrs against Koreans? is that ok?
sorry but they are pretty damn close to being a hategroup forum with all of the trash that comes out of their mouths
Folks here are getting away from the facts of this and all that does is cloud the subject.
Points:
1) RRR was banned from here for shilling for other sites.
Think about that for a minute please.
It speaks to character and his agenda.
A desire to promote himself and make money and/or free parts by constantly promoting certain companies.
Take the time and read his posts here yourself and you'll see what I mean.
This wasn't a vendetta by me or anyone here towards him.
The action of banning him was purely in the interests of seeing the people here not be pushed to any one company by someone with an agenda for doing so.
2) The mass bannings, 32 of them to be exact
This took place because of actions by one of RRR's members: Worthy.
He posted a disgusting homosexual picture in Ashraf's birthday thread with Fugger's face photo chopped into it and then went back to RRR's site, posted a screen shot of it there and the "group" all came in for a good laugh over it.
Then another disgusting pic using chopped pics of Charles and Vapor was posted at RRR's site by Joel himself.
After viewing comments there that said to me they were coming to post those here and also to crap the threads in the LC section it was decided to "get rid of them" for the good of XS.
I then spent over three hours going threw threads in the 'It's a surprise show" threads at RRR's site and made a list of the people who were posting what I call "Hate posts"
and those 30+ people were banned here as they seemed the ones that would be coming to post that crap here.
That thread has been edited extensively by Joel in the last 24 hours but I have over 30 screen shots taken before he edited them out.
After the bans were done there were at least two more postings here of the pic done by Joel and they were immediately removed and the posters banned.
Then there was a post by KaptKrunch on RRR's site soliciting people to do a DDOS attack on Xs with XS's IP and info posted there.
As to B*P-Vincent and Bits-Power that is and has been Fugger's call not mine.
He saw something that evidently set him off and thats between him and those involved.
Now you read all of the above, add in that those that know me know ALL I do is with the best interests of this site and you tell me if you think we overreacted.
We had two choices;
1) Stand by and ignore this and hope he just went away.
That wouldn't happen.
Your dealing with a megalomaniac with delusions of grandeur who thinks he's God's appointed person on earth on the subject of water cooling even though as far as I can find out he's never even completed one water cooling build.
2) Take preemptive action and remove the potential disruptions to this site and that is just what was done.
The stuff they are posting is also a clear violation of their ToS, I personally have enough info to send to their ISP to get the site pulled if I really wanted to. I personally couldn't care what they say about me as it's only words and honestly, I've seen 6th graders with better insults. I just sit back and laugh at their folly.Quote:
Originally Posted by brewer265
excuse me... but let me try to loosely translate one of those "fortune cookie" messages...
"if :banana::banana::banana::banana: stinks... stay away from it..."
funny but wise words...
if the members of XS does not like what they see over there... fine, stay away...
if member of RRR does not like what they see over here... same...
but sadly, such a simple concept is hard to comprehend these days?... what have we come to?
we are all gathered here for the love and passion of the art of watercooling...
let's not dwell on a past and move forward...
and when on these forums, ignore the tone in which the message was delivered... look beyond it and read at the knowledge behind the message...
mods, i'm sure you will do what you deem fair... and in cases that it does not seem so to the public, we will voice our differences and as with this case, i hope that you continue to hear us plead on behalf of those who cannot voice their pleas...
let's move on...
Preemptive banning's? Thats a new one :shrug: Does this mean I am gonna be banned because I am a member over there and might step over the line someday?Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
How many times does it have to be said? people were banned for actions not memberships. Dont bash XS, and dont make gay bashing and racist comments and we'll be a-o-kQuote:
Originally Posted by brewer265
That is what I've tried to do with my post above and in post #71.. To say to the members here that this is what happened and why we took action and that action needed to be taken because of actions of posting filth here, seeing that the people at RRR appeared to be setting up to do more of the same and then after the fact seeing people there enticing others to bring a DDOS attack against us.Quote:
Originally Posted by kinghong1970
I don't go to that site daily looking for crap. I was sent info in a PM that "Dave, you might want to see what these guys are planning" and once I did passed that info along to Charles.
I spend my time here with friends and honestly, sites like that have nothing to offer..
They play to the children who get a kick out of being able to post four letter words and the mental cases that are so unhappy in their own lives that the only joy they get is in holding others up to public ridicule.
More to be pitied than hated in my opinion.
Do you plan on hacking XS forums? Do you plan on posting :banana::banana::banana::banana: on XS forums? Do plan bashing people here or there to the extent they are?Quote:
Originally Posted by brewer265
If no, they calm down, you won't be banned. If yes, might as well delete your account now.
I don't think anyone disagrees with the bannings. But blocking the name of a product? Effectively putting it in the same class as an expletive? I think that one speaks for itself, and even though I don't believe that was the intention, that's how it's gonna come across to a lot of people, and just be downright confusing to others. Elegant it is not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
Thank you..You said it just as well as I could.:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by millertime359
quit your drama already for god sake. God dam drama queen.Quote:
Originally Posted by brewer265
lol, neither is a mammogram... but in certain cases, i guess folks do what they deem to be necessary...Quote:
Originally Posted by karbonkid
:D
ok, i tried to stay quiet on another matter that has been brought to light on this thread...
Mods,
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2334/...d153ab4b0d.jpg
use it once in a while... please?
As I said above, that was Fuggers call not mine and I had nothing to do with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by karbonkid
I can understand why he did it at the time but I do agree with you that it had the wrong effect and I have said that to him.
Had it been my call I'd have banned the guy, emailed his company and told them he was no longer welcome on the site and done deal.
:rofl::rofl::rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by kinghong1970
Thanks Kinghong, i was thinking about that myself. ;)
No drama but preemptive bannings are ludicrous. I guarantee some of those members that were banned had no intention of coming over here to be dicks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bail_w
My thoughts exactly. If it was Vincent acting on his own, then there is no need to ban the company as a whole. If he was speaking on behalf of the company, than i can understand the B P ban.Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
If it was as bad as you guys are saying it is, I hope all the info was sent to B P.
Fugger,
I think everyone can get over the bannings. I mean if they were bashing your site and posting inappropriate pictures then its understood. If you felt it necessary to do pre-emptive bans on possible troublemakers so be it.
However filtering a companies name/product is just low IMHO. Especially when its a company that has brought valuable products to all of our lives/hobbies. That and its mentioned in every other post in the LC forum.
Your treading a slippery slope for filtering out things you don't like/agree with. Where will it end? Please just remove the itspower filter so we can move on.
Thanks.
Sorry for the ninja edit :)
You think they are ludricous and thats your right to do so but what I saw differs with your view on things and since you are a member at RRR maybe that speaks to why you appear to be so interested in this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by brewer265
Again, maybe thats your agenda for being here, maybe not.
And please tell me how you know what any individual will or will not do? Do you read minds? No, and neither do I.
My actions were taken because of the posts of those individuals not on any feeling I had.
Had I not seen hate in their posts then they wouldn't have been added to the "list" ..
It wasn't arbitrary and it wasn't everyone on his site as is obvious as you are still here as are many others.
dont worry ive sent him a 2 MB email asking him about it. 99.5% of the email are images of the RRR's racist and bigot ramblingsQuote:
Originally Posted by millertime359
In my experience he isn't very quick on answering emails. Sent him an email months ago and still got no reply :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by stangracin3
ive got multiple email addresses so i can act as different peopleQuote:
Originally Posted by SparkyJJO
I don't get it. That's just doing the same type of nonsense we're complaining about others doing. Fugger has already said he will address the issue with Vincent. Why can't we just leave it at that?Quote:
Originally Posted by stangracin3
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by shazza
QFT!
let it be...
I'm a member of lots of forums doesnt mean I agree with everything said or posted on them , this one included. I only interjected myself in this thread when people started to jump on Linus for questioning the banning and censorship of of a manufacturer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
You shouldnt have to swear allegiance to XS to be member here.;)
that last post was just a joke lol
have you read the thread over there that is hidden?Quote:
Originally Posted by brewer265
stangracin3, lets move on...
Never seen anywhere were it was required to swear allegiance to XS. :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by brewer265
nor have i but if youre joining in on the forum bashing over there you dont need to be a member here. because thats just another account RRR could useQuote:
Originally Posted by millertime359
Do you think everybody over there are a bunch of sheeple waiting to do his bidding?Quote:
Originally Posted by stangracin3
so what's going to satisfy you brewer?
seems you've got a rebuttal for every single statement...
you may have felt that the mods have "overreacted" and many also voiced this opinion... and they've responded to the community... fine... done... what else?
Dude seriously, you kind of begging for a ban now. Not certain what your angle is but wow.Quote:
Originally Posted by brewer265
did you not see MM's post.Quote:
Originally Posted by brewer265
he said ONLY the PEOPLE who joined IN on the HATING was BANNED
pm me your email address and i will send you things
I have read this whole train wreak of a thread. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by stangracin3
It all started because somebody got their panties in a bunch over a silly picture, banned a manufacturer and censored the products name.
have you read their shipwreck of a thread?
"Silly picture" ? I didn't see it - thankfully - but it sounds like more than just a "silly picture" :rolleyes:
That, and a bunch of guys over at RRR wanting to do DDOS attacks on XS, and cause other trouble (which is why their accounts here got banned if I'm not mistaken).
thats because it wasnt just a silly pictureQuote:
Originally Posted by SparkyJJO
Seems to me you are trying to starts trouble huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by brewer265
I guess the main points I have been trying to get across is , who cares what they do over there. Until they bring it here it shouldnt be any business of XS. Banning people because of hateful posts on another forum is pure garbage. Its the internet , there is stuff everywhere that you might not like. If you go looking for crap your gonna find it.
It was around 4 or 5 pictures.Quote:
Originally Posted by stangracin3
Basically its all retardraiders fault.
Its not what they are doing over there, its what they are PLANNING to do over there.Quote:
Originally Posted by brewer265
Its called conspiracy and is against the law.
Let's make things simple for everyone....Brewer265, you're gone.
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/1701/capturecmr.jpg
proof of it there thread being in the WC section
If your whole contribution to this thread isn't enticement or provocation i don't know what is :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by stangracin3
Something's obviously pissed you off but all i see at this point is a one man crusade hell bent on inflaming the situation for reasons unknown or only known to you.
Seriously, count to 10, let it go and start posting something useful which we might all benefit from.
That is whats called "spin"Quote:
Originally Posted by brewer265
Take a set of facts and say it so that it send the meaning that suits YOU!
This whole thing started months ago with RRR's hate crap at his site and a few of his guys taking his lead and crapping threads here. We ignored that hoping they would stop and also hoping that RRR would dry up and blow away.
Then this thing heated up when Worthy, a member over at RRR's site posted a disgusting homosexual picture here with Fuggers face chopped into it.
That is what you refer to as a "silly picture"?
If that is so then I suggest you take some time and think about what is and isn't "silly"..
Let me make one point very clear, RRR and his followers started this crap, all we did was respond to what they started and you would make us the bad guys for this?
I just fail to follow your logic here.
No one banned the company B*P from this site.
Their rep was banned and their name put into the spam filter and my guess is that is only temporary on the name.
Now you've asked your questions and they have been answered so I'll now ask that you remove yourself from this thread.
This is what happen (banned) when someone know half of the story and starts to input their thoughts. Oh ya, it makes you look quite stupid too.Quote:
Originally Posted by brewer265
im waiting to see him at _________________Quote:
Originally Posted by Bail_w
fill in the blank
Let the decree go forth from this day on that XS does not tolerate racism and bigotry.....
oh wait:
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Originally Posted by IMFU
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Originally Posted by stangracin3
RRtech? then start to join Joel's hatred threads against XS?
he may already be there with a different usernameQuote:
Originally Posted by Bail_w
Perhaps, thats why he want to starts trouble in this thread. What a troll.Quote:
Originally Posted by stangracin3
Thank God he was begining to really irk me:clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
My mum used to say "Show me your friends and I'll tell you who you are" If I was a niche product manufacturer I'd be very careful with regard to the company I keep. Would you do business with people you don't like? There are people here that have called for bans on Aquatuning and Feser but I guess we should try and be neutral. If Fugger and Vincent can come to an understanding then great but Bpower was probably just chasing the $.
This situation is almost like a bad marriage break up.....how old is RRR seems pretty childish to me!!
6? 7?:shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by RADCOM
He is a member there as he stated earlier.Quote:
Originally Posted by stangracin3
listen guys, the purpose of this thread was to ask some questions that concerned people here and ash answered some and I've tried to answer the rest.
No need for any of us to go on a tear against any of the RRR members that post in this as I honestly think thats what they are after so deny them that by no flames even if they piss you off.
Take the high road as they say and things will work out.
Now I'm human and my personal opinion of Joel is close to what I think when I see a petri dish filled with a nasty virus in it but like that virus he has a short life span for the hate he spews at all.
I've seen anti Semitic posts there, anti black, anti gay, and anti Korean..
He's one of those that hates everyone except what he is.
He brags about being a Texan with all that goes with it but it's just another lie.
He's from Louisiana.
He can't even get that straight.
did anyone see where they tried to find my myspace and the one they found was a white skinny kid who thought they were "black on the inside".
they were also about 15 miles off on the town i lived in
Ignore him as when push comes to shove he isn't worth the sweat off your backside.. Pathetic is the best word that describes him..Quote:
Originally Posted by stangracin3
just to let you know you're being responded too over there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
and they would like proper grammar. like they know what that is.
yeah lol he found my myspace that I made under the sniipe_dogg name when I was 15(14?) and never used after creating it and then tried to say he could beat me up... lol E-thuggin... try me now, I'm 6'2" 180 and gaining - not the scrawny kid I used to be.
Alright, this thread is slowing turning into the same thread they have there. How about we let this go now. :up:
ya can we get a lock on this thread?
i will disagree with u on that on a few reasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by millertime359
1.we aren't posting their email addy's.
2. we aren't searching for their myspaces to use against them.
3. we aren't posting their addresses.
4. we aren't posting there phone numbers.
5. we aren't calling them :banana::banana::banana:gots in bold pink letters
im sure i could go on
I'm gonna call for a thread closure here too. As long as Fugger is working with Vincent to resolve this behind the scenes, there's no reason for it to keep going.
noticed I said slowly. Yes it is no where near as bad as theirs, but there still is bashing going on. We got most all the info we wanted, we voiced our concerns on the B P ban, we found a troll, I think it is time to let it go and take the high road as MM said (it was MM right LOL).Quote:
Originally Posted by stangracin3
I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "positive" - something from them? Something from us?Quote:
Originally Posted by FUGGER
If Vincent is unbanned here, it makes little to no sense to have a product rep for a product with a name that is censored out. And filling large parts of the WC section with bananas isn't doing anything to help anyone.
I'm not sure the really was a troll, he just seemed to be a person that did not know when it's time to drop the issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by millertime359
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by SoulsCollective
Not to mention there seems to be reports that it is affecting anything that has b and p in it.
webpage works :p:
Well, with Vincent unbanned, he will be able to PM Fugger and correct the B P situation here and maybe (if he feels like it) explain his thoughts on the situation over there and what he intends to do to correct it. :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by SoulsCollective
5 reasons why you don't want this thread closed but give one good reason why you would want to keep it open other than to bait as i'm certainly starting to see a trend from your posts and not one has done anything other than to add fuel.Quote:
Originally Posted by stangracin3
Open or closed, makes no difference to me but you definitely seem to have a bee in your bonnet about something and its not doing anyone any good.......so just let it go and move on and post something we don't know rather than crap we do :shrug:
Thread closed :)
If there's further development, I'm sure something will be said :)