The marks on cpu is normal...it seems you have one of the not so good quads.:(
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The marks on cpu is normal...it seems you have one of the not so good quads.:(
I confirm that too...
If you go post 141, you will see a litle mark, on the mine, too...
Maybe your CPU isn`t so good....
I do have also some dificulties in reaching 4G....and i even did try Prime95:D
Ola Jvidia:up:
I would understand if the cpu wouldnt clock, but I can run Prime without erros for about 1 minute, sometimes 2 minutes and then ... REBOOT again. Also, how can it become unstable by throwing 1,45V into it?
here is the cpu (I marked the scratches the cpu came with):
http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/fc3e322c77.jpg
Hey,
I got the P5K-E/WiFi last week and installed it. Cooling mosfets with thermalright Hr-09 type 2 (pics to follow)(hardmounted). Cooling NB/SB with thermaltake extreme spirit II heatsinks. Cooling E6600 with water. 850watt antec TPQ PSU, 2gb Pc2-6400 corsair xms2 (5-5-5-15-2T, 2.10volts)
I installed bios 0901 before finding out about the vdroop. I can not return to 0602, 0603, or anything else. I have tried EZ flash in the bios, and Asus update utility in windows Vista 32bit. Update utility says "Bios image can't use in this motherboard. The EEPROM type incompatible." EZ Falsh says the bios is older than the 0901 bios, which is obviously correct.
Can some one suggest another method of downgrading bios to 0602?
I can not understand this method.
http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...Language=en-us
Used these guides.
http://forums.hexus.net/hexus-hardwa...s-p5k-add.html
http://www.overclock.net/intel-mothe...-e-thread.html
Did vdroop mod from page 1 of this thread, brought up the droop a little. Still a large gap, almost 0.1 volts
in asus update go to options and then check the box before bios downgradable
for me the downgrade option didnt work for 0901, so I did this:
- prepare desired bios and rename to P5KE.ROM and put it on a FDD/CD/DVD/pendrive
- start updating the 0901 with 0901 using EZ flash
- during the process restart/shutoff
- during next restart, the Crashfree feature starts looking for a medium with the P5KE.ROM file - insert the media
- let flash complete - and there U have it - never use 0901 again ;)
... remember, its always at your own risk!
Other BIOSes (for example 0806 into 0602) can be easily downgraded through Asus UPDATE setting the 'Downgradeable" option in settings
... GOOD LUCK :toast:
Thanks, except bios can not be downgraded through Asus update program on my motherbaord. I have checked the 'downgradable' option in the program and started receiving the message, "Bios image can't use in this motherboard. The EEPROM type incompatible." This is not the same message that I recieved before checking the 'downgradable' option.
I will try your method Aerosupra. Hopefully I can confirm success with this method in the next few minutes.
in case of a flashdisk (pendrive), use HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool, so that EZ Flash has no problems, just for safety
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerosupra
When you tried downgrading did you use older updater like AsusUpdt61002 as seen a few saying it works.
i used the AsusUpdt61002 like others and it worked a treat, thanks a lot guys.
:D
Aerosupra's method worked. Downgraded to 0602 without trouble. I was using AsusUpdt_v71304 from the Asus site.
Thanks for your help. I will post a few pictures tomorrow of the cooling solution. I will also play with the Bios and try to reach 4.0 tonight.
Any suggestions on NB/SB and other voltages?
why to 0602?
use 0603.. its way better bios than 0602.. i can now easily achieve 3,6GHz on my e6750 for 24/7
agree, 0603 works better, now, since you haven't got a 0901, you can change your bios without the Crash-method
here are some P5K-E wifi BIOSes:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=191
when you say 603 is better, are you referring to being more stable, or other reason?.
I can push FSB a little further, but Vcore is more stable (unless you have already pencil modded your board)
I've tried to update from 0602 to 0603 using the EZ Flash thingy in the bios but it said "boot block not valid in file" or something like that when checking the 0603 ROM. :shrug:
Make sure usb is formatted before you put a rom on.
Formated and retried. Same error msg :/
update using asus update in windows..
no problems
Thanks fellas, I see that 0602 is much easier to overclock then 0901 and am going to give 0603 a try now. I can easily hit 4.0 on my e6600, with nothing but Vcore voltage changes. However, the temps are to high for 24/7 so I will be runnning 3.6.
I have encountered a few issues. I can not set memory timing to 1T. I does not matter what I do with other settings. This was not a problem with my 680i board.
Everest benchmark shows a large drop in memory read (20%) and increase in memory latency times (70.8ns vs. 57ns). And the worst part is that I am overclocking the memory and cpu more than I was when I got higher scores! Memory write scores show 10% increase and memory copy scores are nearly identical.
Last issue, my video card is running slow. 3dmark06 is running at 30FPS instead of 90FPS in the first test. I am about to re-install the drivers and see what happens. Is there a setting in bios that I have disabled that affects GPU performance?
Update: flashed bios to 0603 and now have GPU at normal level of performance. It might be a driver conflict with older BIOS or a hardware issue because the new 8800GT support PCIE2.0. I do not know, but am glad that it is working now.
Time to overclock
Well, here is the problem. My GPU starts running slow when I overclock past 3200MHz. At 3600 my 8800GT is running at 30FPS. At 3200 my GPU is running at 80FPS.
The only changes that I have made between the two CPU clocks are FSB and Vcore, so somehow one of these settings is slowing GPU performance.
Anyone seen this before? Any solutions?
Check your pcix speed if it's set at 16x. Also try setting the pcix clock at 100mhz in the bios.
Hi.
Nice to see people excange new experiences...
Im on vacations, so no acess to my rig....
Im thinking to try 0603.....but before new update, should i do a default reading in the Bios?
And them update?
cheers,:up:
AriciU, where is the pcix setting to 16x? I set PCIE clock to 100. I still get slow FPS at higher clocks than 3200.
Anyone know about the PCI/PEG setting and Asus cross graphic impeller?
I don't think you can set it at 16x anywhere. You can check the speed it's running on using CPU-Z, under the Mainboard section.
Depending on your video card determains where to set pci-e speed. I have a 3870 and I need to run it at 110 + to get the best overclocks. Its very common. Also if you exceed 120 your gonna drop your os flat on its face. So keep it at 115 max imo.
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/8...62spux9.th.jpg
Heres is a link to my highest mhz run in 3dmark06-4230 and I think I could get this thing stable at this mhz but I dont want to run 1.6v all the time.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=4423586
Here are some screens I took of my bios cept the vcore is now lower.
http://rapidshare.com/files/79912806...een_shot_1.JPG
http://rapidshare.com/files/79912897...reenshot_2.JPG
http://rapidshare.com/files/79912898...reenshot_3.JPG
http://rapidshare.com/files/79912899...reading_8c.JPG
I tryed flashing back up to 0901, but have the same results. Low FPS in game and 3dmark. I checked PCIE setting between 100 -120 without change and tried your settings Crazykooter.
I just checked CPU-Z and found in the mainboard tab that the link width is x1and max supported is x16. I am going to set bios to stock and check to see if these settings change.
Thanks for the help so far. I will mention that the pencil mod has me overvolting by 0.03 in bios 0603 and undervolting by 0.06 in 0901 bios. So, I like the 0603 bios because I can set my Vcore to 1.45 and reach 3.6 stable with a PCprobe reading of 1.47, no vdroop under load.
yep, there it is. With bios set to stock, CPU-Z reports link width as x16. So, something past 355 FSB is lowering the link width to x1 and killing my GPU performance. Any suggestions?
I had the same problem on my p5b, anything above 375 fsb resulted in 1x PCIE. i got around it be upping the sb vcore slightly.Quote:
Originally Posted by spider_d
Yip...you should never update bios when overclocked...allways set it to default first.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mordorr
I notice now that I am getting x1 link width with 3200MHz too. That's 355 FSB. I will try the SB voltage up. I have NB at 1.55, and both NB/SB are under thermaltake extreme spirit II with 120mm fans blowing at them, so temps should be fine. I'll be out for a while but will report back tonight
Just installed my P5K-E. Its revision 1.01G and came with bios 0603. Testing my old-school conroe E6600 @3.6GHz stable right now. More results will come next week.
I thought bios 603 was for P5k Deluxe.No where do I see 603 for P5K E.
dont know why, but I couldnt find it also available, although my P5K-E was shipped with the 0603Quote:
Originally Posted by sam95ta
If you cant find BIOSes here are some:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=191
I bumped up the SB to 1.2volts. Thats the max. No change. Still x1 link width when overclocking. NB voltage up to 1.55 with no change. Some setting is lowering the linnk width from x16 to x1 whenever I overclock.
I think that I have found the answer. Here it is;
7. If you are experiencing a jerky desktop, slow graphics performance, low framerates etc or any other kind of graphical corruption (this is mainly for Asus boards), load up CPU-Z and in the section that tells you about your motherboard, look at the bottom where it says something like PCI-E Link Width, it may have changed itself to 1x instead of 16x (this happened to me yesterday), so to fix it, go into the bios and cheange the PCI-E frequency from AUTO to 110 (you can try any value up to 110), save and exit, boot into windows and check with CPU-Z that the PCI-E Link Width is now set to 16x. If it is still at 1x, repeat what you just did, but up the PCI-E frequency another notch, check with CPU-Z and if it is back to 16x, go back to the bios and change it back to auto, and hopefully, it should be fine
http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/overc...beginners.html
In the troubleshooting section. I am going to try it now
well i ordered my P5K-E the other day. waiting for it to arrive with my ballistix 8500. cant wait to push this around
I want to buy a e8400(45nm cpu) but i now have bios 0603. 0703 was already installed but it had a huge vdrop.
Now everything is allright, but i want to sell my e6600 tomorrow. So from which bios can i run e8400? So i can update to that bios, otherwise i can't start my computer if i got the e8400.
So since which bios is 45nm cpu's (specially e8400) supported?
If i look at the supported CPU list I see that the Core 2 Extreme QX9650 is supported since 0903. That's a 45nm cpu, right? But is this for ALL the 45nm cpu's?
And if this is right, the box of my p5k-e is wrong. They say: 45nm support. But i had bios 0703..
This is a good question from barzi. Which bios supports 45nm chips?
I believe its the 0901 which is the worst bios yet.
Has anyone here reseated there northbridge heatsink to see if better thermal compound is making a diff ?
0603 is a very decent bios, but if i want to e8400 i have to update to 0901, right?
That's too bad :(. What happens if you put a e8400 in the p5k-e with bios 0603? Is it going to start-up but you can't use the bios functions for the cpu (overclock and stuff)? Or will it just shutdown after a few seconds(something like: no cpu)?
i think that you can enter in bios even with the 8400... so in this case the worst can happen is that you will have to update it with a pen drive
Hmm ok, that's nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by MalaMen
But If i wanted to "update" my bios from 0703 to 0603 EZflas said "Not valid boot block", what does that mean? Or is this because i actually wanted to downdate?
I updated it later with the ASUSupdate tool in windows.
Still. My mobo said 45NM supporting on the box and came with bios 0603. This means that it only supports the QX9650 with 0603? Its kinda strange though, that it will only support that one and the box says 45NM ready. I don't think that the box is wrong. That would be really stupid. By the way barzi. Is your motherbord a 1.01G or a 1.02G Revision? Because mine 1.01G came with 0603 and yours with 0703.
does anyone know the difference between board revisions?, ie 1.00g 1.01g 1.02g
mine is 1.00g
according to asus the Core 2 Extreme QX9650 is supported from bios 0806
here
I finally pushed my Q6600 and P5K-E Wifi to 4ghz
Takes alot of v-core to get there though.
I have it set at a sweet spot of 3465mhz (1.27 v-core) prime stable for 24/7 use
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/8...4mhzjj4.th.jpg
Quote:
Originally Posted by mft4
I have also the same question, and the same Board.....
I did look to both, and didn`t see nothing diferent....:shrug:
P.S. Remenber now....number of conectors in the power cable??
Where can you see which rev you have? Cpu-z gives 1.xx..
It is marked on the board itself. Right above the videocard slot beside where it says P5K-EQuote:
Originally Posted by barzi
Mine is a 1.01g
Quote:
Originally Posted by spider_d
Check this out:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...33&postcount=1
Hideo is using bios 0503 with a QX9650!
It might be that it will moan something about the cpu microcode on every bootup though but at least it's accurate with voltages. :)
Thanks:D.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
Mine is rev 1.02G. What does this mean?
any coretemp reading on that run? would like to know the VID, thxQuote:
Originally Posted by Rocket
Interesting, the bios link posted on pg10 says you need 503 for a 2180, but
906 for a 2200.
I forgot to open core temp on that run.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerosupra
I`ll make sure its open for the next time. (it`s pretty warm on air though)
VID= 1.2250 on this cpu
Batch # L726B447
All it means is how new your board is. They start at 1.00 and go upQuote:
Originally Posted by barzi
hello, i have a P5K-E WiFi Rev 1.02g since saturday it came with bios 0806, wich one is the best bios for the board??
Thanks, and sorry for my english
I was playing a bit more tonight.
Kinda cheated with nice cool canadian winter air.
looks like 470 fsb is the limit of my cpu, or the limit of my poor Enermax 535.
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/1...0mhzkv3.th.jpg
Its one of the worst bios. Get the 0602 or 0603 bios.Quote:
Originally Posted by jorge_metal0
thanks! another question, does 0602 or 0603 support 45nm?Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazykooter
happy new year everyone
Can anyone point me to download the said 0603 bios. Presently, me is using 0602; but would like to try 0603 as well.
Thank you.:)
Chang, if your system is running fine, don't flash for the sake of having a newer bios, all the later bios' have messed up voltages.
If it ain't broke... ;)
Thanks, was thinking the 0603 might be better. Me running E6850 @ 450 x 8 and memory at 4-4-5-12 1:1 at 1.4125v now with 0602.:)
Previously, all other bios can't run at this speed with '8' at 3.6ghz!
Well done cheating or not but that lools like a very nice cpu you got there.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocket
i am having a problem with my ram... I use 2x 1gb Gskill pc6400 HK and i am running 425*8 with 1:1 on rams... so they are workin ate 850mhz 4-4-3-5.
But if i use the divider that allows the ram to work ate 1020mhz with 5-5-5-15 timmings, i always get blue screens at this speed. Before i have this board i used a Blood Iron and i used the ram at almost 1100mhz with no issues and 1.37v in chipset only. With Asus even at 1.7v in chipset :(
I am using Bios 0602, and i try 0603 too but is the same.
i try to use all the voltages possible and always get freezes or Blue screens.
Any issues with Gskill Hz and this board?
Hey can someone check if these links are working as they aren't for me right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerosupra
not working here too
Hey guys, need some help, I'm close but not quite 100% stable
vcore 1.58
nb 1.55
fsb 1.4
vdimm 2.3
any suggestions?
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-...8/420_cpuz.jpg
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-...20_superpi.jpg
i have flash my p5k-e wifi bios to 0901 today, and noticed a huge vdrop (about 0.15v).
as many of you said, i am planning to downgrade the bios to the 0602 one. but i couldnt. tried with ez-flash, asus update, and Afudos. ez-flash didnt allow me to flash to 0602, because its older than the current 0901. asus update and afudos said the bios rom file is not compatible with my board (i am very sure i have the right rom file from the asus official website, for p5k-e/wifi), and doesnt let me flash...
so just wondering how you guys did the downgrade from 0901 to 0602....
thank you..
What color slots are you using ? If yellow then switch to black. The yellow ones are much more aggressive then the blacks.Quote:
Originally Posted by MalaMen
hello...
i have a question, i have a e6400, but the multiplier change 8X to 6X auto, when im not using the cpu too much, what do i have to do to make it stay at 8X?
here a screenshot when the proc. is not using at all:
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/7...hot1du2.th.jpg
and here with orthos runnig:
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/6702/sshot2ss5.th.jpg
i think is a bios option i have to change but where is it? sorry i am just a noob... can somebody help me?
thanks and sorry for my english
disable C1E and you should be all set
Thanks! Done and working :DQuote:
Originally Posted by whodie
i need to get used to this board. my p5b-e i could do 405fsb with 1.425v. anytime i up the fsb and volts to what i used to do i bsod. also got ballistix 8500 i want to put to good use. need to play with this board for a bit i think
1st suggestion: make your pics smaller, they mess up the forum's layout. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by whodie
2nd suggestion: If you plan to keep that setup for longer than a couple of weeks, get your voltages down.
Read through this thread, the answer is in here and has been told a couple of times.Quote:
Originally Posted by haoster
Received my P5K-E/WiFi-Ap a week ago, it's rev. 1.02G and came with 703 bios. Huge droop with 703, and had to change it with 602. Much better.
I'm going to try 603 also because I've read that 602 it's beta.
Testing now stability with my new E6750(L723B613) @ 3600Mhz 1.4v bios, 1.36v load.
Sorry for the big pics...Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
I'm not that worried about the voltage, I need 1.55 to run 8 x 500 but 1.58 for 8 x 525. I'm only running 1.6 PLL though....and am a bit hesitant to go much beyond that for 24/7. For some reason though going to 1.7v on the NB and 1.5v for FSB makes it more unstable... but I can get it load Vista 3/5 times at 8 x 550, the other times it fails to load the USB drivers at POST....
And I have a little old E6600 running 9 x 400 with 1.63v 24/7 folding and it's been running fine for over a year. ( it is water cooled though...)
I flashed from 0503 to 0603 no vdroop with this bios but , wireless can not be disabled in bios , actualy disabled but windows recognized it :)
I flashed from 602 to 603 about a week ago. I've got my FSB @ 408 with no issues now.
Problem is when I go any higher, I'll have random resets. This is better than 602 since I haven't had any BSODs at 408 or less.
I'd like to go higher since the CPU is only running 50c under full load and is completely prime stable. It seems the board is holding back the CPU.
For the curious folks, here are my voltages.
vCore: 1.4v
vDIMM: 2.2v
NB: 1.7v
SB: 1.2v
I know the NB is high, I have a ThermalRight heatsink on it and it stays under 38c. It was cooking at over 50c before the aftermarket heatsink, and cooling it down did increase stability.
I should be satisfied to have a quad running at 3.67 24/7, but I know this CPU is capable of more.
If I can't do better with this board then I'm gonna scrap it, once I figure out what to replace it with.
I'm fishing for suggestions on getting the FSB higher. Any ideas folks?
Increase voltage. You can't expect ~3.8ghz with only 1.4v. Test it on some other board and watch the vdroop hell if you think the board is causing it ;)
Don't scrap it, send it to ME!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mister2
would be good if somebody could comfirm this, cuz this was a problem of the 0806 biosQuote:
Originally Posted by vera
Yeah, you're probably right. I bumped it up to 4.25, we'll see if it stays stable at 409 then push for more if it does.Quote:
Originally Posted by AriciU
Do you think 1.7 is too much on the NB? I'm worried about the lifespan of my chipset =(
Also, when I set the FSB to 409 I found a neat bug in the 603 BOIS, check out the image.
Mine does the same thing on 603 BIOS, but I recall all other versions I've used acted the same way. I have the wireless disabled in BIOS, but it still shows up in windows. I have the "PnP OS" option set to yes, so it's probably handing off control of the wireless module to windows on purpose though, so I just disabled it in device manager and called it good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerosupra
Nice bug :) I think 1.7 is way too much for that FSB. I think you can set it at 1.55 no probs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mister2
still just bsod on everything im trying. need to drop to the 603 bios from the 802.
906 BIOS is up on the asus website, and there's enhanced memory compatibility :up:
edit - no idea if the .1v bug remains
You test it and report back. Im scared of all the newer bios. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Zero939
:rofl:
Just updat from 0206 to 0603....
So far, so gooD:up:
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/5891/111iq2.png
Mordorr
nope, im sticking with bios 603 for life :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Crazykooter
Seems you were right about that too, though I had to bump the CPU up to 1.4375 to get it stable again. Thanks AriciU.Quote:
Originally Posted by AriciU
Prime testing now, so far so good.
The extra CPU voltage only bumped load temps about 1c. It can probably take a good bit more. =)
Will be interested to see if the v droop bug still remains also.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zero939
P5K-E/WiFi-AP CPU Support looks like the latest bios 906 gives compatability to the new Wolfdale CPU's coming out i.e. E8200, E8400, E8500. Bios 806 gave QX9650 compatability just for your infomation.
Someone test out bios 906 lol :) you know you want to. . . . :yepp:
my friend says that 906 changes his CPU-Z ram reading from asymmetric to symmetric
Flashed to 906, huge vdrop 1.425 bios/1.320v win idle/1.312v load with voltage damper enabled.
There are a few changes in the new 906 BIOS:
- added 400Mhz FSB strap to Northbridge
- changed Dram Timing to 1N/2N
- added timing info, something like 5-5-5-15-4-42-6-3-3 on the top of manual timing configuration
- voltage damper changed name to Load Line Calibration
- renamed CPU/NB voltage reference to CPU/NB GTL
Hey thanks for the heads up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackoberst
apart from the vdroop does the bios seem any better regards FSB. I know 602 is great just tempted to test latest.
You use old asus update to flash back the bios?
I haven't tried max fsb. I only wanted to see if it has the same huge vdrop issue. I kept it like half an hour or so and flashed back to 603 using some old version of Asus Update 6xx. The link is somewhere in this thread.
I don't know how Asus could screw things up with the new bios versions regardind vdrop. :D
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackoberst
agreed. you would think the Vdroop would be sorted on latter bioses. I supose as its not a high end board they seem to think it wont matter.
I get no posts sometimes with 602 and have to boot with 1 stick of ram. :shakes: