http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...px?i=2993&p=10Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX
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http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...px?i=2993&p=10Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX
Hmmm....seems the BadAxe2 gets rocked haha.....Anyone want a BX2? :rofl:
It is a problem with the BIOS, the latest P5K3 0411 BIOS solved most of the Quad reboot issues, ASUS is working on a update for the P5K now.Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
Hmm, this board is now available @ my local Fry's. Must resist, must resist :lsfight:
oh it is ? only happens with some quads right ? maybe my Q6600 B3 ES is different from retail hehQuote:
Originally Posted by bingo13
You can do it! You can do it! :D I just came from Fry's and they had a half dozen or so way up high where Monkey boy couldn't touch it. Couldn't see the price tag but I'm sure it was 269+...was hoping to find just a plain ol' P5K to torture...Quote:
Originally Posted by The Nemesis
Here are some pictures from my build, I'll post my brother's later...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v460/orion23/3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v460/orion23/UNO.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v460/orion23/DOS.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...23/STACKER.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v460/orion23/DESK.jpg
Go buy it... really, go buy it... :D Next BIOS release is looking really good for memory performance improvement and solving reboot issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Nemesis
The ES chips have been fine, all three retail Quads have had issues on both boards with warm reboots and recovery not working at all. I probably have removed the video card about 50 times to clear CMOS during Quad testing.Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
At stock speeds, yes. Running the BX2 at 330 with the 800 strap makes up a lot of ground and then some with the P5K set at the same 330 FSB/memory settings (you cannot change the strap on the P5K currently so it is at 1066).Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX
Any chance you could ask your contacts at Asus to add the ability to disable cores? Quite a few other boards support that.Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo13
Do you know anything about 4 sata problems??Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo13
In my case when i have raid0 on 2 of them, one of the others desapear :(
You really like the board that much bingo? I'm sittin' here eye ballin my my IN9 32X-MAX that I just threw together to test a new X6800 (L631A which is looking like it's going to be a pretty good one) and I'm really itchin' to waste some money and put this Abit back up for sale...Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo13
If you say so then I must;) . Let me see If I can make it there b4 they close.Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo13
So far I haven't had any warm or cold boot issues at all with mine using a Q6600, it came with the 0202 bios.
The qwerk I've experienced with autorecovery is that I have to remove three of four sticks of ram which for me happens to be easier than removing my video card to reset the jumper and redo all my bios settings.
For some reason if I remove three sticks of ram autorecovery works everytime, after saving and exiting the bios I reinstall the ram, haven't had to touch the reset jumper since figuring this out.
I just got back...again ;) This board better be good bingo!!Quote:
Originally Posted by The Nemesis
ah memory performance improvements are always welcomed :DQuote:
Originally Posted by bingo13
Ah that would explain a few things :)Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo13
Got mine too:) Bingo can I borrow a Quad:D
Hey orion23 do u think a hr-05 will fit on that NB with that TR ultra 120 x there?
For the HR-05 "SLI", it sure looks like it could. There a lot of space between the HSF and the Video card.Quote:
Originally Posted by ineedaname
The regular HR-05 could fit. The HSF overlaps the NB a bit, but it might work!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v460/orion23/NB.jpg
the p5k dlx looks like a great board. I may get one.
Try using only the 4 red sata connectors, I had the same issue until i used only the red connectors.Quote:
Originally Posted by _JP_
No reboot issues with my quadcore retail qx6700 and i am running 490x7.
Well I have 4 sata disks and 1 sata dvdrw.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bootsy
No matter what config i use, always the same disk disappear :(
About cold boots, i don't know what are you meaning but i have problems with my QX6700.
If it starts well, i can run prime with no errors in windows. Sometimes it starts but freeze entering vista.
I had lots of problems to install vista, im starting entering my serial number and the mouse and the pc freeze...
This things happens with OC, stock i think i have no problems with cold boots.
bingo13, give us the new bios please...i cant use my pc with this one :confused:
I have a problem running 2 hitachi's in raid 0. Sometimes it won't even install xp other times it randomly bsod's in xp with iastor.sys error. It does however recognize my third hitachi drive.Quote:
Originally Posted by _JP_
It recognizes 3 here, the problem its the 4...Quote:
Originally Posted by 426hemi
Another strange thing i have notice.
In Vista, if im at stock i can open control panel.
If i made OC, the control panel blinks and don't open.
I use my QX at 3.3Ghz for everyday, its the same speed i used in evga nf680.
I tried 367x9, 415x8, 472x7...and the last one, once windows starts can run prime for hours...
Quote:
Originally Posted by _JP_
I wondered if I could add a Sata dvdrw drive. I guess the answer is no until they fix the bios. Maybe Bingo will hook us up with it:)
I just hooked up a fourth hitachi drive and it does not recognize it! I hope this is just a bios issue. I don't want to rma this board cos with cpu voltage damper enable it has NO vdroop | saw .002 twice in 4hr orthos small ftts.Quote:
Originally Posted by _JP_
Are you getting random bsod in windows?
You can, right now i have 2 disks in raid0 and a 3rd connect. All with my DVDRW sata drive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bootsy
The problem its the 4th disk, it don't appear every time and hang up the system.
I don't think its that causing the problems with OC...
No.Quote:
Originally Posted by 426hemi
If it boot, sometimes it blocks in start, i don't have any bsod...i play games for 2h without an error.
But the things aren't right, because i cant open control panel for example. Display properties don't open either...
Vista runs wired but but i play games fine...
If i remove OC, it runs fine. In this case i hope its the problems with quad core, and be fixed with next bios.
I think its bios problem
which bios are 'you' and '426hemi' running?
304Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
Wow, the NB is so bloody hot on this thing...
have you tried 307?...406 and 407 beta bioes, although they are for the P5K (non-deluxe)?
EDIT: look here: http://www.jmax-hardware.com/index.p...d&ascdesc=DESC
Have other people been running non-deluxe BIOSes on a deluxe without issue and with success? Seems like there's a risk...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
i should correct my post as to the beta bioses statement for the non-deluxe P5K...they appear to be regular bios updates...asus ftp site even has 0414 bios available for download for the standard P5K.
I would not use the P5K non-Deluxe BIOS on the Deluxe boards, they tend to screw up drive settings and memory performance optimizations are different. I have another beta from ASUS on the P5K-D but it still needs some work, no reason to release it as it is just as bad as the 0307 when it comes to Matrix RAID setups. We should have a new 04XX update shortly, that one I will post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
Wow, the P5K dlx 0304 BIOS really seems to have dropped my temps...
0307.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
Anyone knows which one its better, 0304 or 0307?
Mine came with 0304...appears it was a return at Fry's...and of course they just threw it back out on the shelf. dimm slot one has a damaged section where the lower "hook" is mounted. Still latches onto the memory okay but looks like I could easily bust off the other wall and be screwed...Quote:
Originally Posted by Speederlander
Aside from that the board runs great thus far...though I think I'm gonna be jonesin' for my SLI when 3D benching :yepp:
I have been running fine all morning on a partition on my 250g in ide mode.
Hope the raid issue is a bios thing cos I love this board.
The DDR Maximizer is working now!
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/5...emembr1.th.png
2.7V
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/1...tsegfy9.th.jpg
2.85V
Just wanted to post a quick thank you to eva2000...:up: All of your initial posts are proving to be a great wealth of info and providing a nice base of reference to work with. I'm so used to working with Nvidia based boards that I can get a bit lost when something new comes along. So far this board is pretty fun to work with and you've taken alot of guess work out of the equation :clap:
For anyone curious about the heat pipe assy...be prepared for a long journey cleaning up the mess you make by removing this assy...if you are curious as to whether or not heat is being transferred properly thinking the heatsinks feel rather cool even though you are pumping a decent dose of voltage...
The north and south bridge are mounted with something more akin to a two part thermal epoxy. Key word "epoxy" :) You will need a blow dryer to heat up the south bridge as it covers a large area (chip wise) and you will not be able to remove the assy without heating up contact points during removal. Compared to recent mobos I've seen this at least makes good contact as opposed to massive globs of grease running every which way.
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/3...0518ov9.th.jpg
It took awhile to get the SB cleaned up. Just multiply the NB that you see times two. This was using Arctic cleaning solution, blow dryer and fingernail. Heat it up, apply cleaner and let it sit for 10~15 minutes. Remove a layer and repeat. Not looking forward to cleaning NB and avoiding damage to the pad...
The PWM's are covered with a thermal pad and it makes piss poor contact, maybe 75% total. Considering how well the board runs it doesn't seem to be a major point. Prepping for phase right now which prompted the removal in the first place (plus just a tad bit of curiousity why the sinks felt so cool, relatively speaking).
Anyway, just wanted to warn those thinking they may need to remove and regrease. Asus actually did a decent job and this particular heat pipe assy works pretty well...
Well, my NB at least was blazing hot under the stock orginal BIOS so I suspected the heat transfer was decent. Much cooler to the touch now though under 0304.Quote:
Originally Posted by OldGuy
Not bad for initial 24/7 set-up with QX6700 on air, with RAM at 1080:
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=201887
http://valid.x86-secret.com/ccpuz.php?id=201887
Yeah, I thought your comment earlier about NB heat sounded "strange" :D Even at 1.70v it is nowhere close to 680i NB temps...I thought maybe heat just wasn't being tranferred proper but that doesn't seem to be the case. This heat pipe assy might actually do what it's supposed to do...I hope ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Speederlander
Glad i could help :)Quote:
Originally Posted by OldGuy
Thanks for the NB/SB cooling info... looks like Asus did listen when it came to NB/SB heatsink contact this time :)
I decided to leave mine intact as the board is running fine as is :)
did you remove the coil or leave it intact ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lalaboy
+1 Thanks for the bios info, it'll definitely come in handy:clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by Speederlander
they have the deluxe bioses in a different section 307 being the latest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
http://www.jmax-hardware.com/index.p...d=67&Itemid=43
Who has tried 0307 and does it seem better than 0304?Quote:
Originally Posted by safan80
How do I tell the temperature of the NB?Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
What program can give me this reading?
Fresh meat.........:rofl:
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/1...0522ld1.th.jpg
P5K based Commando 2?
it's gonna be Blitz Formula for DD2. Blitz Extreme for DD3. http://www.techpowerup.com/?31835Quote:
Originally Posted by Anemone
Would the prices of these boards reduce once we get to the official release date?
Release date??? Go to your local Fry's...or do a price grabber search. These things are available all over the place. SEE FOR YOUSRELFQuote:
Originally Posted by Knight
Go get one...you'll be happy :D Price will surely drop a little after awhile but right now they are mid 250's...not really too bad considering the performance.
How accurate is PC probe mobo temp? It seems to register so high when I am running blend, easily in the 50C range or better, but my NB isn't that hot to touch and I know the airflow is ok. What is it measuring?
For people running blend (especially with quads and boosted NB/FSB volts), what is your PC Probe mobo temp reading after about 15 minutes or so?
I removed the coil!Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
Here is my Q6600 maxing out on the P5K Deluxe, not bad.
Putting more voltage on NB, SB, FSB and cpu doenst make a difference, its just the Q6600 maxing out under the tuniq I think.
http://tweakers.net/ext/f/8e264732a0...e82c/thumb.png
A bix thanks to eva2000 for creating this thread and making life easier for the rest of us. Although I love this MOBO for its higher FSB, my initial scrutiny clearly indicates that I will not get as high a stable clock (Super Pi 32M, 3dMark06, etc.) with my QX6700 as on my previous board, i.e. the P5W DH Deluxe (BIOS 1601), which was stable at 4,5 (multiplier 15 and 300FSB). Installed Vista last night and have just started fiddling around a bit, but first super pi 32M run at around 4,3 is not so bad after all...
Must...Have...More...Voltage...
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/4...0x10at1pi1.jpg
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The flesh is willing but the voltage is weak...1.7 max bios netting about 1.67
Vcore mod is allready found
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=145142
I need Vdimm :)
very nice kent. what cooling are you using?
Supposedly Penryn will be using a slightly different power delivery system; will the ASUS P5K Deluxe be compatible with that, or would a new motherboard be needed even still for Penryn?
The P5K Deluxe is 45nm compatible, says so right on the box :D
Also just wanted to thank all the people in this thread for the great info about the P5K, I just got all my parts 5/25/07 and am still putting stuff together.
This is my first post at XS but I've been a long time lurker.
How hard is it to remove the heatpipe coolers on the P5K and reseat it with AS5?
Good stuff :), welcome to XS :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Arcanedeath
When I was trying to install windows I couldn't get BIOS to detect a drive unless I was plugged into either SATA5 or SATA6. None of the other 4 ports can be detected by bios on boot when a powered SATA drive is connected to them. Am I missing something with a jumper on the board or a setting in bios?
I would hate to RMA this board as otherwise it is a nice toy.
TIA,
JS
By looking at the reported motherboard temp using Asus PC Probe or whatever.Quote:
Originally Posted by orion23
Mine is low 30's under load but I only have a dual core instead of quad. NB voltage was up to 1.55v with a high FSB.Quote:
Originally Posted by Speederlander
P5K is a very nice board too bad the 6600 is FSB limited at 500MHz.Ram is GSkill HZ PC6400 at 1200MHz 2.5V...
Just like to add these are the parts I got for the new Rig I'm still puting the peices together atm (darn cousin's wedding :rolleyes: ) but I'll post back results once it's completed but so far It will post @ 3ghz w/ stock volts of 1.35 just bumped it to 1333 bus and all 4 gigs of memory work fine at 1066 w/ 2.2v @ stock timings, I'm still putting all the parts in the case though and cable routing in the P180 is a PITA w/ the PCP&C Silencer as its longer that most power supplies. :)
From New Egg ordered
Xeon 3060 2.4Ghz Conroe
EVGA 640-P2-N825-AR GeForce 8800GTS 640MB 320-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 SUPERCLOCKED
PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad (Black) EPS12V 750W
Lite-On LH-20A1S 20X DVD burner
Antec P180 Silver
Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
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Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
it's important to know the max fsb for the new p35 boards,since I just found out that new 1333 c2d's (E6750,E6850) will have lower multis.
E6750 will max at 8 and E6850 at 9.:(
this means the subzero cooling owners must get boards will really high fsb wall (arround 600) to achieve
high clocks on, say,e6750.Otherwise it (oc) will be the same as on e6700 with max multi 10.
Check out post 242 on p10Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX
have you tried a higher multi to get a higher OC?..what was the max FSB for that event?Quote:
Originally Posted by Extera
Thanks, appreciate it :)... Looks like I will be checking temps and see if they are acceptable...If not I will be removing and reseating :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by fritzman
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX
Run prime95 blend and monitor mobo temps. I am curious what you get, though I suspect a dual core isn't as stressing as a quad on the mobo.
Any word on new chipset water cooling blocks for the P35, or will old chipset blocks (such as Maze4) work on it still?
From my reading... I would be surprised if the heatpipes aren't working well... seems like Asus have come thru on this series.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX
Will there be a P5K Deluxe with no WiFi?
Just don't enable it.Quote:
Originally Posted by wa2000
No probably not, but I plan on going Penryn when its out, but when I get it...little delay due to the holiday on monday, but when I get the board I will let you know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Speederlander
Asus has posted there 0311 BIOS for the P5K Deluxe at this link:
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so.../P5K%20Deluxe/
hm. seems like a big jump from the 0123 (4/17/07) any info on the changes? anyone do it yet?Quote:
Originally Posted by msgclb
pc probe2 and ai suite same reported temps.. MB around 29-34C under load depending on room temp in open desk bench setup with 60x25mm sunon 23.5cfm maglev fan over stock passive nb heatsink with original TIM intactQuote:
Originally Posted by Speederlander
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K...ime95_load.png
darn was hoping didn't need to remove it like P5B Deluxe = me has no soldering skills LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Lalaboy
not really i've been on 0307 for a while now so 0311 is just a small jump...Quote:
Originally Posted by trajik78
wonder if 0311 is the bios bingo13 was talking about with improved memory performance and fixing the retail quad core reboot issue ?
311 adds 1T/2T command rate... needed to reset my cmos to boot... testing now.
FANTASTIC
any results yet?? ohhhhh fantastic!!
No, just testing max fsb.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
I will test E6600 max fsb tonight, I think my mem will be limiting factor then, well, I hope so :D
My LN2 run on the E66 was board limited (P5B), I think this board will finally bring me to sub 10 spi.
Too early to tell! but I am having a bit more success finding some options for my Q6600 in the 3530 to 3550 range with 311.
Let's just say that yesterday 3555MHz @ 1.5625v + damper on rebooted after 7 minutes priming, and right now 3546MHz has been going for 40 minutes.
Could mean something, might mean nothing.
Will know in a day or so. Right when my Xeon 3220 arrives ;-)
It's strange that the p5k vanilla's bios is socketed, but it's soldered for the deluxe.
nice mobo ..very good work :up:
well, Bios 0311, in my case. 1T wont work with divider 1:1 bus 400.
bus 333 divider 5:6 1T works fine.
damn. so sounds like 515 1:1 1t won't be all too likely eh?
I just noted that changing values in the bios, when P5K reboots the screen change color, I noted for example that increasing volts on cpu the color of the value doesn't change in the bios, remains blue (on P5W becomes pink and with more volts red) but when I reboot the screen becomes gray, gray w/ stripes, pink and purple based on the bios settings.
Is this somehow the same as the value color alert-notification for the P5W ?
Anyway it's an amazing mobo !! Really happy with P5K dlx !!
im trying to keep my volts down @ 1.4 and am stable at 3gHz (380FSB 8x mult)
ram is OCing nicely 2.3v 1140. 5-5-5-15 2T
0311 BIOS is installed and working well.
before switching out your Q6600 with your E6600, can you see what the max overclock is at the default multi for the Q6600...i am interested in getting this board but i want to make sure i can crank out more performance than my QuadGT board...you have a Tuniq cooler on it which is the same for my Q6600; although i have been toying with the idea of getting the Ultra 120 extreme cooler.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Extera
i have the comparison sheet for the P5K right next to me...the non-deluxe version is an 8mb Flash ROM versus a 16mb Flash ROM for the deluxe model; hence, i presume the need for a soldered chip-ee:) ...8mb is also found on the P5KC...that model handles both DDR2 AND DDR3 memory.Quote:
Originally Posted by ziddey
daaaamn 16mbit rom?? guess the days of floppy flashing are really over now
OR...it is going to be one heck of a compressed file..LOL
i wonder if the P5KC has or will hit the streets in early june?
it might make more sense for me to buy that board so i can transition to DDR3 when it become less expensive.
I thought about that...briefly :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
botty-bing, botty-dong!:D
Just put on 0311. My previous highest FSB post was 485x7. I am now able to post 500x7 with QX6700. Won't go into Windows yet, but that's substantially better if I do say so.
Edit add: Hmmm....I seem to be getting a tad more drop in voltage from what is set in BIOS to actual. I had to tick up BIOS vcore one notch to 1.5v to get the same volts in Windows under load now that I was getting under load before. No big deal really, as my ultimate volts and temps remain the same, but interesting if this is a characteristic of the new BIOS. Anyone else seeing this?