After the first big shipment ( 100 boards! LOL ), here comes the...Quote:
Originally Posted by G H Z
Venus...Victoria Edition.
Striker + 150$ sounds good for the... sexy box
[ feels like a "Venus" 'edition' will be striking us again :slap: ]
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After the first big shipment ( 100 boards! LOL ), here comes the...Quote:
Originally Posted by G H Z
Venus...Victoria Edition.
Striker + 150$ sounds good for the... sexy box
[ feels like a "Venus" 'edition' will be striking us again :slap: ]
I think M.S.R.P. was suppose to be $229. We'll probably see $259-$289. I wouldn't expect much more than $50-$60 over M.S.R.P. just like with the 680i boards. I'm just hoping there are enough memory configurating options to improve the boards slow performance vs. the 975X chipsets. Perhaps it can at least be faster than the 965 & 680i otherwise it may be better to wait for the DFI 680i or Abits. Especially if you want to run SLI.
Just great!!! 100 boards...there is no way I will be lucky enough to get one
I have waited for this board prior to building my setup and need it done over Xmas week as the wife is gone....crap...maybe I will just sell off all my C2D stuff (e6600, 10th anniv crucial ram)and say screw it...I bought a new PSU and HDD for winxp install
what a waste...how could they only have a 100 boards...newegg will likely charge $350 for this board
100 boards LOL its like the PS3 only for computers.
Where did you hear that the board has slow performace against 975???Quote:
Originally Posted by The Nemesis
There'll be more coming, don't worry ... besides, who wants the first board anyway? (me me me!):cheer:
100boards for the us :eek:
meaning us europeans will get about 80 at max and 0 will be send to belgium.
bye bye xmas whish for me :(
Lol 100 boards... I smell ebay! people selling these for 1000 bucks and over!
This sucks badly.
I still think Conroe board generally sucks.
SLI users need 680i, while they maybe dont want 680i because of other reasons (most SLI users wont use hacked drivers).
Crossfire users can use 975 and 965 board, but crossfire on 965 board gives 4x pciE on one of the graphics cards.
975 chipsets are not the best clockers, need much voltage to.
965 not that future proof.
Rd600 seems great but has 2x (for Xfire) 8x pciE, and only 100board avaible.
I'm glad i didn't wait for RD600, instead i bought a cheap good value board :D
Rgone said there are about three times as many BIOS settings as on the Expert board. :eek:
Looks like this board is not for the beginner or weak of heart. :toast:
Dang, 100! Glad I bought a Infinity 975X.. But, I still will try and get a RD600
Guys some more info for you.
RD600 is not as fast as i975 for superPI, if this matters to you and you spend all your life watching the PC crunch 20 loops then this is not the board for you.
RD600 is FAST in 3d though, and I hear with a hacked SLI driver its faster than i680 in SLI with 7900's ;)
So PI freaks may be disappointed, 3D benchers may be thrilled....you just need to decide whats for you.
Does the northbridge cooler
actually use ALL FOUR MOTHERBOARD CLIPS?
Unless I saw the picture wrong, this motherboard is a watercooler's heaven. :)
Oh come on Tony, give us benchmarks,
Make My Day :D
Can you tell us something about needed voltages and northbridge temps yet?
It has that many options but for once some that will test and post up good pics after the review...have the boards early and I have already seen the bios shots that work...so that much is basically out of the way if using good memory...
RGone...:cool:
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Originally Posted by xenolith
I hope I can get one here in Sweden before christmas but I doubt it. :CTF:
Depends if you like watching the same repetitive 3D graphics over and over again really, doesn't it?? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Tony
On a more serious note, thanks for making the effort to feed us these tit bits in realtime. This board is still a bit of a puzzle to me as I want a good RAM testing board but also a 3D benching platform. The commando or any of these 2nd gen 965 broads looks good and I have the option of getting a 680i board. I look forward to seeing some 3D results on this platform as I may get it instead.
Whats the maxFSB on RD600 ?
screw this board. This isn't souinding good at all. What kind of support do you expect form such an obosolete platform? Maybe the new 965's like Tony mentioned in another thread, will pick up the slack.
That SLI news is really good. Gaming/3D performance is all really care about. I'm not much of a Pi cruncher, but I am concerned with the orthos stability issue. Hopefully it will get worked out and not be like my Abit AW9D-Max.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
I don't remember Gary having 2 7900's so who tested hacked drivers for SLI on this board?
I'm looking forward to grabbing one of these Friday, even if the cost is outrageous:D
Please tell me what is not sounding good?Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
I take it super pi matters to you?
some facts for this board.
It runs sli damn fast with a special driver. It clocks ram as high as commando, it does xfire just fine and has the ability to bond the dual lan also.
I can't see why you would make a comment about a board just because i say its 0.05 secs slower at Pi 1M?
superpi is worthless. It doesn't determine encoding, gaming, or application performance.
Tony is it true that the RD600 offers only 8x pci-e in XF if so what happened to the 16x pci-e in XF???
http://www.channelregister.co.uk/200..._launch_nears/
Thanks for the input Tony! :)
511fsb looks good. Waiting for more thorough testing...
511 fits me 9 multi just fine although less vdroop / higher vcore might help me cpu a little compared to results on this P5B. Looking forward to be able to oc mem async. Getting one asap here in EU.
Bios shots as promised, I left them as thumbs, just click to get the larger pic.
I will answer questions here on the options.
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It will do higher than 511 but from XP only at this time, Oskar may add more options to bios though.
I will say with async ram clocking higher multi cpu's really are the way to go now keeping 500fsb the real max limit.
I want one :(
OMG i feel like a noob! All this NB voltages... :eek:
Holly smokes... Im a OCing noob as it is now...if i ever get that board ill have to hire in support to help me clock it.. dammmmmmmmmn man...Ill take a week off work to play with it cause.. thats insane!:slap:
Its 16X with one card or 8x8 with 2, issue is just like Nf4 its fast with dual cards, I actually feel 16X 16X is not needed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turtle 1
Is that manual IRQ selection I see?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
God that'll be nice, hopefully no more sound card issues.
Thanks for the shots Tony. :)
What is the max cpu voltage on the motherboard?
I quoted that way back...1.6+121.25%Quote:
Originally Posted by Gascogne
Wasn't the RD580 16x16 with 2 cards? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
Just so you know.
FSB CPU 511 max thru bios
MEM FSB 658 Thru bios, so 1316 max DDR2
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yes it wasQuote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
Please tell me the manual for that tells me what a PLL is instead of being like the DAGF and giving me what a sata or ide port is in 19 languages :(
Those settings are amazing. It makes this ASUS look crippled.. not that it doesn't already look crippled. I want to have that board's children.
Any info on 4 pin native psu's? Stil using a 520 Modstream :D
Could you share some insight as to why they downgraded this part of the chipset Tony? I understand you don't feel it makes a noticable impact as you've already stated, but I'm curious if you have any idea why the decision was made?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
Thanks btw for all your info on this and your continuing work with it Tony.
Man so many options, we'll need like a 50 page guide for this... Me like :woot:
thnx for the shots Tony :toast:
i'd give it a miss for sure..........unfortunately i'm one of those sad individualsQuote:
Originally Posted by Tony
So if I understand it right, roughly 1.9v is maximum?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
FARK! :slobber:
Just seen the BIOS screen, how on EARTH can we already be passing judgement on this board?!?! It'll take MONTHS to get this board configured right testing all those settings :confused:
This board has SERIOUS potential and if it's already hitting 511 odd MHz then the future is defiantly bright for the RD600 :cool:
well BIOS max is 511MHz, you can't set it higher (in this rev. of BIOS)...Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Bravo
@Gascogne: 1.94V to be precise ;)
Sweet thanks, I really want the board now. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by marauder16
RD600 is actually quite old, I have a board here from over a year ago using a very early version of the chipset.Quote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
As far as i know there are 14 revisions of the chipset now, 13 and 14 being the best.
So....this chipset was actually designed ways back with RD480 which was 8 x 8 also.
EDIT: AMD just corrected me, 4 revisions of RD600, 13 and 14 being the 3rd and 4th...so 4 respins overall.
DFI make an i680 also you know, I will be previewing this also soonQuote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
Jeez..well good thing it won't be widely available till spring, I'll have plenty of time to save for a new setup.
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Originally Posted by Tony
0.05 secs not so bad, for a better Pi run we oc more :D
I like the board, but only 100 pcs before xmas its very very limited.. i dont understand DFI, they could sell more only in this 2 weeks i think :confused:
#251 But which board will be faster in Pi and 3D, and which can get higher fsb.. its secret too :)
#254 I hope so ;)
I have a feeling there will be more than 100 ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Achill3uS
that the mobo i am interested in...look foward to the previewQuote:
Originally Posted by Tony
oh wow... this is going to be my first building a computer from the ground up. eh I'll get the hang of it. Not like I don't have other computers. This is going to takes weeks going through the bios.
I knew it was old, but I figured it was newer in everyway compared to RD580. That's very surprising and actually quite strange. Luckily for me, I don't bench nor do I run dual cards. I care most about memory overclocking and performance. This board seems to be excellent in regards to memory tweaking and I look forward to playing with it, especially once the fsb limit is increased.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
Will we see other results other than 3D and spi? I do plan to OC, but how is the performances of other apps? I am sure time will only tell.
damn nice preview,Tony
thanks for sharing
:clap:
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Originally Posted by marauder16
In BIOS yes but here's hoping in windows it's alot higher ;)
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Originally Posted by Tony
DFI make an i680 also you know, I will be previewing this also soon
Me too... been holding off going back to the dark side for this one board.Quote:
Originally Posted by icon57
Tony:
Do you by any chance have info on hacked SLI drivers for 8800 series? If not, never mind :)
I am sure Gary will be benching a wide ramge of apps etc. I promised DFI we would respect Anandtech having the exclusive so I can not post benches till after their review is posted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knight
Is it possible the 680i version will have asynchronous memory as well?
yes but its not quite as flexible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trice
So can you tell us now, what do you think, which board will be faster?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
Ok well I have a E6600 628B and 2 GB of this memoryQuote:
Originally Posted by Tony
http://www.tankguys.biz/ddr2-3338-p-...2596885c2a6c68
which platform will it do the best on do you think?
errr back to the main events guys....
Sorry, I might be a little slow. Will we likely see these reviews this week? Thank you for the fast responces. :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
Yes, you will. Anandtech should have their's up real soon. Followed quickly by more reviews here and at TheTechRepository from Tony himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knight
Of course, correct me if I am wrong Tony.
I hope there are more than 100. I have been waiting for this board.
OMG, really cant wait, the BIOS screenies- total droool :slobber:
wow.. NDA is up.. :) 511 fsb is really promising.. :) hope 9x500 works wahahaha.. ;) i'm realy bothered with the high chipset temps and only 100 pcs... waaaaa... I'll wait for my distributor for this.. :D
thanks sir Tony :woot:
as far as i'm concerned this is the real question.
given that the asus p5b-dlx is the current fsb king for kentsfielsd -
how does the new Vcca controll affect the fsb wall characteristics of kentsfields?
ie which is the better board for getting the max from a (low multi) quad core both for fsb and for cpu clocks?
If I had a kents i would test, fact is i do notQuote:
Originally Posted by flytek
Argh, newegg charges a butt load for shipping & tax. But zipzoomfly should be getting these boards too right?
I guess ill have to camp out on my computer to grab one of these before christmas..
Probably not at first. And if they do, very low quantity I'd say.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vice
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Originally Posted by Vice
no as a matter of fact newegg has about the cheapest shipping your gunna find out of all the e-tailers.
Maybe where you live..
Zipzoomfly is free, or optional $1.99 2nd day shipping, not sure if you can beat that.
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Originally Posted by erwinz
thats 511x7 and i dont call that promising at all, its the same stuff all the other boards do.
and it needs to be able to handle 6600 and higher better than alot of boards do. the 4meg cache cpu's are getting killed when it comes to overclocking on lower multi's.,
its gotta be able to wow people, and make people want it for its power not just cuz its been the largest piece of hyped vaporware ever seen.
and it aint real til it hits store shelves. and neither are any of these benchmarks. if it aint done on a retail board it dont mean jack. and most of you know this if you've been around here over the last year and seen all the sample boards just perform light years better than their retail counterparts.
i sure hope gary has a retail board and not a pre-retail sample.
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Originally Posted by Lestat
Overall you would generally be right in your statements. But this is Tony, not some marketing guru pretending to be an overclocking guru. He would not raise our hopes, empty our wallets and then say "ooops, sorry, guess my board was special?". Not what he does.
Its final PCB revision, in full retail box, but yes was supplied by DFI to me last week.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
If my cpu would do 511x8 the board would do it, fact is 3.8GHZ is all this 6400 will do so im kinda limited by that. Also remember you are not limited to certain ram ratio's like on an Intel board, so clocking is different...you just need to pick a higher multi CPU and work within the boards limits.
Also lets not forget, i975 is FASTER than i965 even though the i965 does higher FSB's....you again just have a cpu with a higher multi.
Finally Gary has a retail board, his came from the final production run as did mine, but mine is pre used by DFI engineering.
If needed I will measure all voltages on this board to see if they are close to what i see in bios...really though I do not doubt the board as the voltage options are nothing short of incredible.
who cares about overclocking with low multi, after ddr2 800 1:1 the fsb is pointless anyway, and I prefer 975 anyway.
Tony, if it hasn't been said enough, thank you for all the info and responses. I know some of us came make some pretty bold or silly statements from pure speculation. It's nice that you correct us and point us in the right direction professionally.
atchoo didn't get no brandmespanking new board like I got...did you get the mauve manual? Hehehehe. I been caressing and talking sweet to mine so she mat do pretty goot...you english folks is sumtime to rough speeking tuh yore shett...hehehe.
RGone...:nono: :fact:
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Originally Posted by RGone
WHAT????? LOL ;)
Tony, can you show us pictures of the board in action, or does it interfere with the review sites?
Tony,
First: Thanks, I love the bios pics!
...It sounds like you're saying that it has lower mem bw per clock than the 975X?
You say that the chipset is hot. But it's much cooler than the i680 right? Do you have a killawatt or UPS to measure with? :confused:
Last but not least... Now when the nda is up, how is that Promise ctrl:er connected?
Thanks for posting so often. :)
the little vdrop in this MB is wat i'm looking for. :D as for the FSB wise, as long as is over 450 i'm happy with it .. :cool:
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Originally Posted by Poodle
I'm also interested on how the promise controller is connected.. :) I really want a balance system.. 500fsb is enough fo me, memory async overclocking is a plus.. and faster I/O for the hard disk would mean a balance system for me.. :)
thanks tony for sharing hope you can answer our question when you have time.. :)
:woot:
i think its realy cool that you can adjust PLL voltage.
wonder if it does anything.
you been taking Snoop Dog classes? :p: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by RGone
I have four 7900GTXs..... and two of them clock like no tomorrow, well at least on this board. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by The Nemesis
The Promise controller is on the PCI bus. I am running RAID tests on it tonight but none of the HDTach stuff, iPEAK all the way. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by erwinz
Why else would they have it? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
So lets just say I wasn't as "extreme" as everyone else here. Would it benefit me to get this board over a 975 board if I had DDR2 533 because of the async. memory features?
just for the hell of it maybeQuote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
how many voltage options actually impact performance in any way >>> not very many
Ya all the 975 boards are putting down 511 fsb :|Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
NO THEY ARE NOT!, Get a GOOD E6600! Freecableguy ran 520*7 on the cpu that I sold him in my Sig, once you get a good Xeon, there is no going back to that Allendale crap or normal E6600/E6700/X6800s.Quote:
and it needs to be able to handle 6600 and higher better than alot of boards do. the 4meg cache cpu's are getting killed when it comes to overclocking on lower multi's.,
http://www.thetechrepository.com/att...1&d=1164431299
I will put my L628B Xeon 3060 up against anyone here's E6600ES or X6800. Alot of the E6600s are crappy and cannot even do 3.7 and that is the problem.
Yes it will wow people ;)Quote:
its gotta be able to wow people, and make people want it for its power not just cuz its been the largest piece of hyped vaporware ever seen.
I am sure the DFI board is not going to be slow, but it might be buggy, like my AMD DFI CFX3200 :(Quote:
and it aint real til it hits store shelves. and neither are any of these benchmarks. if it aint done on a retail board it dont mean jack. and most of you know this if you've been around here over the last year and seen all the sample boards just perform light years better than their retail counterparts.
i sure hope gary has a retail board and not a pre-retail sample.
For the last time!
4 meg cache chips do overclock as well as 2 meg ones, just normal E6600s blow
What kinda of BS is this? What do ya want from a 2.4 spec chip?Quote:
Originally Posted by fhpchris
It's amazing how much reality has slipped away from so many....
he is talking in relative and NOT literal terms :slapass:Quote:
Originally Posted by pcdoc1
I understand, but ya buy a remarked 6600, spend an extra $12.00 because the box label says Xeon, and get sucked into believing you have bragging rights... No wonder I haven't posted here for months... (Nothing personal dinos)Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
Regards-
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Originally Posted by bingo13
thanks for your answer.. :) looking forward for your result.. I hope the sata controller on the DFI RD600 rival or just be equal with the performance of the Intel Raid Matrix :D
:woot:
but there is a difference between Xeons and retail conroesQuote:
Originally Posted by pcdoc1