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Originally Posted by dinos22
LOL!
The seller's a great person, so he deserves all he can get for them.
I got my 16GB's, so I'm happy!
Mind you, I only have 8GB left now :stick:
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Originally Posted by dinos22
LOL!
The seller's a great person, so he deserves all he can get for them.
I got my 16GB's, so I'm happy!
Mind you, I only have 8GB left now :stick:
i have an identical stick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Comp-Freak
dinos22 give the ram and motherboard some more testing and see if it is no coinsidence. try pushing the fatbody to the end of the slot and see if it again doesnt POST. we need 100% confirmation so we can make a new thread/sticky or whatever. and people with different ASUS motherboards please try this out also. maybe ASUS has different DIMM slots compared to the other brands (gigabyte, intel...). this is geting interesting
Tutti has it running:
http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/...13461#27113461
(If you don't end up by the right post, scroll untill you see pics ;))
Has anyone tried using a dull metal, or sharp plastic utencil or tool along with some electrical contact cleaner to try and take the paint off?
yeah true that just be careful guysQuote:
Originally Posted by kiwi
i don't want to see anyone kill RAM here :( :) :)
we love our beaches in December :D
yes i've done it many times now and i can confirm for my two motherboardsQuote:
Originally Posted by heikis
all the way in = beeping
little out = works fine :D (asus is a little harder to please so you have to get the height right heh
yeah i'll try it on mine tonightQuote:
Originally Posted by Comp-Freak
Be very careful with this... I had some bh5 seated wrong a couple years back... shorted and blew a contact with about an inch of trace, intact, clean off the ram
Ok, otherwise I'll try it when my board arrives. If you're carefull and keep the crewdriver flat, you won't damage the metal traces. I don't like the idea of a half inserted memorystick :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
yeah it's a scary prospectQuote:
Originally Posted by Comp-Freak
i wonder if that can be removed with metho or something hmmm
LOL last one on eBay...
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....m=170058527187
I'm suprised I haven't received my kit yet... grrrr
Anyone try cleaning the paint off the contacts yet?
I really don't want to be the first one to do it :p:
*EDIT*
Got impatient...
Well scratching the paint off is quite difficult!
Can you elaborate a little? What are you trying to do it with?Quote:
Originally Posted by MACMAC
Well I tried to very delicately scratch off the paint with an Xacto knife, didn't work.Quote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
Then much harder...didn't work.
Might have to isolate the pins and use some chemical thinner as its lacquer paint.
However, I won't be doing it, since they all work fine in my DS3.
i haven't had time for anything last night nor tonight for that matter ......but that doesn't look good.....have you tried just "scarring" the pain
Nope, not yet.
By the way, I just thought of this:
Instead of removing the paint, why don't we just make the ram taller? Just attach something on the bottom of the sticks so they contacts match up with the contacts inside the dimm slots?!
how do you wedge stuff out of memory slot....sounds a bit finicky but if you can tell us what you mean it could be good i guess......my method is touch and go as well but it worked for me and others so i guess it's a startQuote:
Originally Posted by MACMAC
You would want to use something that is non-conductive...how about some cardboard of approximately the same thickness as the modules and with the same approximate depth as the painted portion of the contacts, inserted into the bottom of the memory slot. It wouldn't even have to be all the way across the bottom...just a few pieces to support the modules and keep them from bottoming out in the slots.
If needed, you could pull the cardboard out later with something as simple as a bent paper clip (power off, of course).
While this would allow you to raise the ram and get better contact , I don't think that it would allow you to close the locking tab because you are still needing the ram to sit higher in the slot.
Removing the paint and exposing more of the contacts is really the way to go...if you can get it done without killing the sticks.
I would think that the use of a solvent to remove the paint would probably be the best / safest approach. Tape off the top of the modules, pour just enough of the solvent into a container so that you could "dip" the module with only the contacts touching the solvent and let the paint come off (and hopefully leave the gold on the contacts :D ).
Wonder what to use that would not dissolve the PCB while removing the paint?
any body with p5W64 with this fatbody? i buy 4GB and i dislikes te idea of have rise it.
because in a tower the ram came down or not have good contact
Recieved my bad axe 2 today and the ram works perfectly with this board. You can push it all the way in and don't have to remove any paint ;)
comp-freak whats the results?
you have 4GB?
Only 2x 1 GB. Don't have any results yet, but it works stable @ spd speed/timings.
what MOBO you have?
the isue of memory only have with asus mobo's? or EVGA or GIGA have it?
Well, it seems Asus uses other memory slots so you have to lift the stick a litte bit out of the slot. On my Bad axe 2 it works with fully inserted sticks. Gigabyte is same story as Asus I thought. Don't know anything of evga.
They work fine in the Gigabyte DS3, no lifting required.Quote:
Originally Posted by Comp-Freak
However, in the DS4 you have to lift, same thing with the Evga 680i.
Apparently they also work with the DFI Infinity 975X and some testing done hereQuote:
Originally Posted by Comp-Freak
http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=3453
And I can't believe I haven't got my sticks yet, I hope I got them before Xmas :mad:
I ordered them 13 days ago (2x1GB) and they were sent 2 days after, still haven't recived them But i'm from Spain, not from USA. Hope they will work on my AW9D-MAX.. if not, dinos trick all the way :D :D :D
Hey I know that guy...they work with dino's mod only on the DFI.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudyn
wuhuu got mine today, to bad I have to wait until im done at work :S
Do you guys also have different chips on each side of the stick?
SPD side:
5CA11
D9DQW
G86R
Other side:
5CA32
D9DQW
BZTV
When I got my sticks back in October, some of the 6 sticks used identical chips and some were mixed, similar to yours (5CA11 & 5CA32).
@Dinos... Using your method, when the sticks are installed, can you see any part of the contacts at all?
i sold the sticksQuote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
but the way i did it was basically to pull the bottom nod of RAM lock mechanism in line with the side of the RAM wall
i've posted some pics which should give you an idea how much to pull
you have to be careful not to release too much for the RAM to pop out
that wouldn't be good at all if you know what i mean
Yea, I just got them working a minute ago...memtesting now @ 800MHz 4-3-3-6 2.1v... :D
The way I did it was to push the sticks down in the slots completely, and then ever so gently pull back the locks so as to very slightly force the sticks up a bit...we're talking about tiny bit here, just enough so that when you push the locks back to the sticks, the locks rest gently parallel at the base where they'd normally sit on the ram's pcb.
I'll post my results later.
that's the only way it should be done >> easiest anywaysQuote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
I have them running 4-3-2-6-2-5-9-9-10 @ DDR800 w/ 2.1v right now in my P5B-D. Pretty tight... :D
I shot up to DDR900 w/ 2.2v 4-3-3-6-2-5-9-9-10. I then need a lot more volts to get 950stable as loosening the timings didn't help much. 4-4-4 does pretty much nothing.
So this ram is ideally suited at around 900MHz with ~2.2v with nice tight timings. If you're on a 680i, run 1T with these. If you're on 975x...you're golden as most of those boards max at around 450fsb anyhow.
one thing guy's , its possible to modify the SPD of this stiks?
to for exemple 667 4-4-4-10 or 800 5-5-5-10 , any try it?
mod spd isn't help you overclock this tho XD
i know it :)
So therefore there really isn't a point except for coolness I suppose.Quote:
Originally Posted by AcUaViVa
I may flash my SPD's to EnJoY brand memory. ;)
I have recived them finally ! They boot no problems on a provisional Biostar Tforce 945 (Aw9D-Max is on RMA) (arg... I've just noticed it's limited to 300FSB :( )
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/4161/d9oc6.th.jpg
It's funny that the part number is D9DQW :p:
Will try to push it harder now... (if this mobo let me do it).
PD: Chips are 5CA11 in one side and 5CA32 in the other side.
Edit: DDR2 600 Cas 3-3-2 2.2V no problem, will try more (this mobo only gives 2.2Vdimm :( )
http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/2812/d9pu2.th.jpg
Edit2:
I've just found a problem ! They boot ok if I plug another memory first and change the timings to manual, but If I plug them and I make a CMOS Clear (so timings are set by SPD) they doesn't boot !
That's weird as the SPD timings are rated at 266Mhz 4-4-4 and 333Mhz 5-5-5, and what's more, they are stable at 333Mhz Cas 4-4-4 with just 1.8V (i've just tried it) however they never boot after a CMOS clear (which is suposed to set the memory at DDR667 timings by SPD (CAS 5-5-5).
Why happends that ? If they can do DDR667 at cas 4-4-4 1.8V, why can't they boot at SPD default ? (667 cas 5-5-5) :( I'll need to keep a stick of another memory to make sure I can boot after every clear cmos...
Custom SPD thanks to Tony... ;)
He tweaked an OCZ DDR2800 SPD and gave me a custom part number. :)
Could you send me the dump to krampak#gmail.com ? Maybe reprograming the SPD they can boot after a Clear CMOS.
krampak GUARRA! xD
Enjoy can send it to acuaviva@hotmail.com?
thanks
Maybe EnJoY would be kind enough to upload the dump to something like Rapidshare or MegaUpload?
Maybe... :D
yeah would be cool :)
After a ton of testing. It seems Tony may have made some of the alpha timings a bit too tight, as I'm now getting errors in test 5 & 6 at 4-3-2-6 timings. I had to slack very slightly to 4-3-3-6, and voltage didn't help in getting the original timings stable again. So I think he made one or two of the secondary timings too tight. I'm gonna talk to him this afternoon and get it sorted out. Once it's sorted, I'll be more than happy to share. :)
Do you have benches on old spd @ 4-3-2 to compair to new spd @ 4-3-3?
I'm actually gonna test that now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lithan
So are some pretty Xtreme volts not helping this RAM clock higher at the lower settings? Just curious Enjoy why you are sticking to 2.1v when Fatbody begs for 2.7ish? Are the results not scaling well at all with the extra juice? I am just trying to figure out why all the results posted so far have been with <2.3v .
well people say that 2,5V+ could damage the ram. so people are just careful.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ad Rock
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ad Rock
Fatbody's with generic JEDEC pcb such as these will die very quick with 2.3v or higher. This is taken right from Tony's mouth. The same goes for most D9. 8-Layer PCB helps a bit, but not much.
I wouldn't use more than 2.25v with these 24/7. I plan on running these at 900MHz 4-3-3-6 once I'm done.
enjoy yo can make peronsalitzated SPD ?
i search for make rhe D9 to 5-5-5-10 800 and 667 4-4-4-10
yo can do it?
enjoy here you here?
Ok...Tony has sent me a new revision of this SPD. It's the Micron spd that came on the sticks, with 800MHz table added, and timings greatly tweaked all across the board. Also has my custom part number. ;)
I've been running them at 4-3-3-8-3 now on this spd @ 900MHz w/ 2.2v. :)
Any of you who have these ebay fatbodies should give this spd a try. You'll need SPD Tool to flash it of course.
Very good, now can we have the custom spd please EnJoY :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
Cheers!
It's attached in my last post now...I coulda sworn I did it the first time. :confused:
It wasn't there the first time :)
Thanks for the upload!
What is a good SPD Tool flasher? Is this ok?
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=20349
That's the only way to go. :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudyn
this SPD its for D9DQW 1GB Stiks? :)
Yes it should, like all those D9 stuff from eBay.Quote:
Originally Posted by AcUaViVa
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/6763/d9ebayky5.png
EnJoY & rudyn
this is my result , its posible to make default to 400 4-4-4-10 ?
or any guide to make changes of spd ?
and check out de 266 mode
thanks Enjoy, will try it out.
Hope there will be another release with improvements ?? :toast: :banana:
You don't want to make the SPD any tighter than it is, even if you sticks can do 3-2-2 @ 400...that would drastically decrease their compatiblity. When writing SPD you want the perfect compromise of performance and compatibility. With sub-timings, you lean more towards performance. With the main timings, you lean more towards compatibility. This SPD now, in my opinion, has the perfect balance. Check out the sub-timings in SPD tool and compare them to the original....big differences, much tighter in this new version. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by AcUaViVa
whell only like to do it's check out 533 MODE and only have 667 and 800
and left 677 4-4-4-10 and 800 5-4-4-10 ? it's possible?
Hey can someone with a p5b deluxe try and see if this ram will work with these settings?
e6600 9x380
2gb fatties 2.25v 4-4-4-12 @ 950MHz
Fatbody D9 2 gig kit.
ends in 5 hours on Ebay.
just found it.
http://cgi.ebay.com/2GB-DDR2-800-CL4...QQcmdZViewItem
Nice find, but IMHO, $250 is a little much for unbinned DQW. This stuff probably won't hit any exceptional speeds. Better to put a little more cash and get a new set of D9GMH-based memory in my estimation.
this 2gb kit just sold for $180
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...4033&rd=1&rd=1
That's true, but I paid really cheap for my 2GB fatbody so I have no complain there :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Gautam
Still using 4th kit of BH5 UTT godness, but never messed with DDR2 memory, so ill ask some questions.
Does these fatbodys on ebay with jedec PCB's can do 4-3-3-x with 2.25v average? For price under 200$ its cheaper than generic ram. Afaik fatbodies are not compatible with some boards, but does they work on i680 and RD600?
How much voltage can I use with benching?Quote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
Another fatbody 1gbx2 kit on ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Crucial-Ballisti...QQcmdZViewItem
900mhz cas4 at 2.2v is bout the best you can get.
Anyone else have any more results?
http://cgi.ebay.ca/2GB-DDR2-800-CL4-...QQcmdZViewItem
and...
http://cgi.ebay.ca/2GB-DDR2-PC2-4200...QQcmdZViewItem
Just purchased the latter, will update post with results when i receive it. By the way I'm loving these forums, been lurking since the summer, I'd just like to thank everyone for all the great contributions. That's it for now.
if you're using any of the asus motherboards be careful with that trick that i showed earlier in the thread ..... dislodging the RAM slightly :toast: and godspeed :DQuote:
Originally Posted by playerX
he's got more if anyone else is interested
http://cgi.ebay.com/2GB-DDR2-PC2-420...QQcmdZViewItem
Received my 2x1GB D9DQW Kit today. So far i have them running at 450MHz 4-3-3-8-2-42-3-9-5-10 on P5B-D at 2.25v. Haven't really tinkered with them too much yet.
dinos any idea what PCB your sticks are using?
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/9696/d9dqwxr8.th.jpg
Heres another kit for those interested:
http://cgi.ebay.com/2GB-DDR2-PC2-420...QQcmdZViewItem
These sticks didn't work straight away on the new Gigabyte 965P-S3 v3.3 but with the "little lifting" trick like someone here mentioned before it solves the prob!