yes, just increase the voltageQuote:
Originally Posted by abrad3
and also, 5k 3dm06???
dam my x1900xtx gets that... whats the point of x1950pro?
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yes, just increase the voltageQuote:
Originally Posted by abrad3
and also, 5k 3dm06???
dam my x1900xtx gets that... whats the point of x1950pro?
I wished I could understand this post ? Does this work for the X1950 Pro?Quote:
Originally Posted by gAf
DAK1640 yep. exactly for subj of thread ;)
offset 001DACA4 change 44h to 80h - this allow use timings property. good luck ....
What does that ^^^ mean and how does one do that ?
you need some kind of hex-editor like winhex or hiew to do this.
ok. i do it myself. now you just need to:
1. install atitool v0.26
2. close application if it running.
3. overwrite original atitool.exe by this one.
good luck :)
Thank you for helping me...I followed your instructions EXACTLY. For some reason whenever I attempt to increase either core or memory it causes my PC to freeze. I have to reboot. Perhaps my x1950 Pro Sapphires are too particular ?
When I view the log...it says VT1103 chip detection:failed (0x0) whatever that means...
I've tried with CCC on & off...no difference. This is so frustrating...
ouch. look in atitool's settings about overclocking. there is "overclocking" and "x1000" tabs with some settings. you can try lock/unlock "reference divider" and turn off some options about "using video card bios for overclocking and helping with timing set". note that you must turn off "ati hotkey poller" in system services because it is prevents other tools to change frequencies propertly. so you can control gpu/mem frequencies by your old way. i suppose try only memory timings for this moment. but you must understand what exactly you're doing. easy way is to copy them from other bioses with slower or faster ram frequency. another one is to set -/-1 each timing manualy.
gAf...You are amazing...!!!:banana: :banana: :clap: :clap: :clap:
You must have been born a genious to understand that stuff.
I first used CCC to OC to it's max...Then I closed it and turned off ATI hotkey poller like you said. Then I set the slider to immediate. Voila...
It worked Great
Thank You, Thank You, Thank You, Thank You, Thank You, Thank You,Thank You, Thank You, Thank You, Thank You, Thank You, Thank You, Thank You, Thank You, Thank You,
Thanks greatly for taking the time with me, much much gratitude friend...
@gAf: thanks man! I couldn't believe, that my scores dropped while raising the memory speed. At 790mhz I got lower scores than at default memory speed (695mhz). So I tried your hack/patched file and compared the original timings with the ones at 790mhz. Indeed, the timings at 790 were much higher! By lowering them the benchmark scores raised as they should :D
Thank you!
(Powercolor 1950pro extreme 256mb)
DAK1640, romeon i am really glad to help :) don't forget that memory timings is very useful when higher frequency could not be reached. performance may grow up to 5-10% with setting only one or two correct timings.
wish to thanx Unwinder, W1zzard and Ray Adams for their tools.
gAf, Major thanks again. So far I've been able to do 634 x 1500 and ran AM03 & 3D03 without artifacts or errors...This is great. You made my weekend !!!
has anyone found any mods to increase the memory voltage yet?
i'd like to be able to get mine up to 2v if possible
So does this work for both cards in Crossfire?Quote:
Originally Posted by DAK1640
Pyr0 not yet. VGPU is only available.
nicepun DEVID is same so it does not matter. of course if ATITool can manage both accelerators at same time ;)
thanks for the link gAf
but with the slightly different arrangement of components (my cards run on less voltage), i'm a little unsure of how to go about modding the vgpu (without soldering) and what levels would be achievable
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/8630/1950bz4.th.jpg
i suppose i could start putting dabs of conductive ink on there and hope for the best, but i originally hoped someone might have an idea of what combinations would work for my cards
i'm a little annoyed that these cards are so undervolted and just hoped to be able to get them up to the same levels as other cards
Pyr0 perhaps you can ask authors of that article. sorry but i can't help you with this. my knowledge is not enough. :/
Pyr0
You could check how much resistance there is. Mine reads 1.67-1.68kOhms. All of them reads the same, after I soldered the lowest one closed.
Before it was about 2 kOhms.
Well, in the posts above (where I posted my 3dmarks points) you can check the 3dmark 05 one. It has the ATI Tray Tools window opened.Quote:
Originally Posted by DAK1640
now I got stable 655/749, tested 6 hours with the Assassin
mem timings that worked @ default mem clocks, were too tight for this clock.
Edit: 661/749 stable. not tested FEAR yet though.
So will this hack enable you to oc memory in ati tool without lockups?
no I assume. Haven't tested. We should consult W1zzard about this. We need a new beta.Quote:
Originally Posted by trans am
Yes, but you need to manually set each bus dev separately. Evidently one of my cards OC's alot, the other is marginal...(Bus4, Dev0 & Bus 5, Dev:0) Memory adjustments are most touchy...Quote:
Originally Posted by nicepun
[QUOTE=Spacehead]no I assume. Haven't tested. We should consult W1zzard about this. We need a new beta.[/QUOTE
No improvements here. Just locks up still no matter what. I disabled hot key poller and patched the .exe
lock ref. divider is unusable. there is no way to change the option for me.
Core @ 675Mhz... testing all night stability looping the Assassin demo. Can't get the 3DMarks run because it loses focus and says Directx device lost. Annoying. I have all kinds off softs background, so maybe killing em all helps?
Edit: Here's the wall at current voltage (1.266V)
675/749 crashed , dropping to 668/749
Edit2: 661/749 The Assassin stable.
[QUOTE=trans am]trans am; 1st, I am using Cat 6.11...Also; I have "apply clock immediately after moving slider", I also have it upping in 7Mhz increments.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spacehead
I have re-enabled 'hot key poller', I run CCC and OC it there 1st (it moves my memory without lockups). Then I close CCC and open ATI tool and OC the core.
Hope that helps...
[QUOTE=DAK1640]Quote:
Originally Posted by trans am
different bios. mine is asus and there is no overdrive so I can't oc in ccc.
I'll try apply clock immediately
got a gecube x1950pro to play with..
x1950pro @ stock setting
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i2...dmark10582.jpg
OK, I found my max OC.
661/749
3DMark06 4676
3DMark05 10547
3DMark03 16359
No more testing , tired. Damn, I am CPU limited. :rolleyes:
Ok, the cracked ATI Tool executable that rAF supplied allows us to OC the memory, or to adjust the timings? I have never adjusted the memory timings on a card before, so if I must learn, could someone link some literature on this subject? Thanks a bunch!
Well, I havent tried the change of timings with ATI, but a lot with Nibitor (Nvidia).
About the MAX OC, your core seems well, but memory a little bit low Spacehead.
Sure, youre CPU limited (as me), but well, youve got good scores for your AMD 3500+
Hey Kain, you know of a timings adjustment guide?
Well I tried the patched ATI Tool, and when I adjused the memory timings on my card, I got a black screen, but no crash. I could still reboot my PC by blindly using the keyboard LOL. Anyone had success with overclocking the memory, and if so how?
All right, so no Vgpu mod before I get a good clocking Opteron 170(no money yet for C2D) I'll try to up the mem up a bit, my anyway it doesn't change my scores much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kain XS
ATI Tool can't change the mem without BSOD...You'll have to do it another way...I use CCCQuote:
Originally Posted by binormalkilla
Yeah man, this is why I said to heck with it. Anyway, here's something quick. I'm waiting on the hold down plate for the MCW60, a better mobo so I can bench around 3.9GHz~3.96Ghz. And I'm still learning how to tweak nVidia drivers since I've been with ATi (AMD) for the past two years. Anyway I guess my mem is pretty good. I'll switch back to ATi eventually.Quote:
Originally Posted by DAK1640
11,067
http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/8...0gtswx6.th.jpg
Well, I use ATI Tray Tools and havent had any problems.
My memory is completely naked.
Just sometimes when I try to underclock (lets say, to go back to default clocks) I get a black screen, but it happens 1/10 times I try it. So, Im ok like this.
the 6.12 CCC ??Quote:
Originally Posted by DAK1640
trans am, DAK1640 well i notified this lockups too. atitool/ati tray tool. gpu frequency changing is ok. but memory frequency - lockups with black screen. so i managed that rivatuner (newest version) can do this for us :)
1. in "low-level system settings\more\disable _all_ options of clock frequency generation settings".
2. go to "graphics subsystem diagnostic report" and look for "ATI specific display adapter information" (also you can enable BIOS information because they can be different). there is: Memory clock=702.000MHz and Reference clock=27.000MHz.
3. now go to "low-level system settings" again and you can change gpu clock as you wish but changing memory clock dosn't lockup system if you increase it by 27MHZ step e.g. by reference clock. so on my board i have:
702, 729, 756, 783, 810, 837, 864, 891... and so on. if i trying something other i have lockups too. so you can try to bypass lockups by the way i described.
binormalkilla about timings: here is sheet of default timings on my asus 1950pro (1st column); minimal that worked well (2nd column) and optimal (i believe :)) (3rd column). i have noticed about 2.5% performance increase in 3Dmark06 (SM2/SM3 tests). you can try something in that way.
All i have already wrote that CCC+ATI_hotkey_poller_service and WINCLK can change memory freq but they changing memory timings too! so after "overclocking" by this way you'll get a performance drop instead of up ;)
CPU: Athlon 64 3200+@2733
MB: Asus A8N-SLI S939 (NFORCE4U) bios 1013 Deluxe
RAM: 2x1024 Hynix1 DDR
VGA: X1950PRO ASUS 256MB
БП Sweex 650W ATX2.0
HDD: IBM DTLA 20GB+WD 80GB
DVD: ±RW LITEON 1693@Codeguys.rpc1.org
winxpsp2
catalyst 6.12
CPU 2733=273x10.0@1.550v core_max 60'C
RAM 195MHz-CL2.5-3-3-7
HTL=4x
ATI 1950PRO@621x810 + timings
3Dmark06 SM2 1024x768=1902 (AF16+AA4)
3Dmark06 SM2 1280x1024=1639 (AF16+AA4)
1280x1200 - 4665 (SM2 - 2037; SM3 - 2273)
1600x1200 - 4096 (SM2 - 1786; SM3 - 1843)
cpu score - 1060
i forgot to pay some attention:
ASUS1950PRO owners! i have noticed that power elements of my card didn't cooled well. in most places cooler dosn't concer them at all. so get look on yours cards - overheating that elements may have dangerous aftereffect.
I have noticed that the Gigabyte and Diamond cards do not have the reference digital vrm setup. Does anyone have either of these and can comment?
ATI Tray Tools is working for me for memory OCing, I have reached 642/750 so far stable.
I am using the latest ATI Tray Tools beta, with driver level overclocking and ATI Hotkey Poller service enabled. I have read that disabling this will keep your card at 2d clocks. I have had no issues yet with my above overclock.
BTW, thanks for the timings gAF, and I was wondering if anyone knows of a place where I can read in depth about video memory timings so that I may fully understand it.....BTW if I am reading correctly, your default timings are different than mine.
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[IMG]http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/283...led0ec1.th.jpg[/IMG]
Thanks again for the cracked ATI Tool file, make sure that you show Wizzard on the tech power up forums!
hmm the big question is will it work? The bigger question is will it work in crossfire?Quote:
Originally Posted by gAf
of courseworking but only by such steps. as i know not only for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by gAf
Quote:
Originally Posted by gAf
nope 1st card will oc just fine but If I change the memclocks on 2nd card it drops back to 702 after 'test' and 'apply' ANy ideas?
I repeated the same steps after selecting the 2nd card too.
I can't change 'modify clock frequency generation accuracy settings'
trans am it's ok. you need disable "clock testing" afaik this is driver-level stability test so it's able to reset frequency. go in "Power user tab"->"RivaTuner\Overclocking\Global\DisableClockTest " set to "1".
I just tried it but now I can't even change gpu clock on 2nd card. when I oc the gpu core and hit apply it goes right back to stock. same with mem. :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by gAf
heres a screen of ati overclocking in power user menu
trans am turn off "driver level clock control". and i wrote not "ati overclocking" but "RivaTuner\Overclocking\Global\". did you disabled atihotkeypoller service?
Quote:
Originally Posted by gAf
holy crap it worked! thanks man. :) new benches to come
okay. I got 8300 in 2006. how do you do the timings in riva with the oc?
trans am not in RivaTuner. via ATITool. look this thread one or two pages back. you just will need patched .exe
Does anyone know where I could find the default memory timings with my card, as mine are different from gAF's posted timings.
I have the data sheet for my memory chips, and they have some timing info on it, but I don't think it's everything. It will take some time to read all of it, as it is around20 or so pages.
++Quote:
Originally Posted by binormalkilla
I think if you use the ati tool patch and click mem in the main oc window (the one with the sliders) (next to settings) this will pull up your default timings for your card. use the optimal timings as a reference.
Okay so if we were to make a final "total morons" guide to overclocking 2 x1950 pro cards in crossfire would it go like this?
dl riva tuner
dl ati tool 26
dl ati tool patch
go to control panel\administrative tools\services\ati hotkey poller\properties\startup(disable)
patch ati tool .exe
open ati tool
---------------------------
select which bus your card is on (if you have more than 1 card /crossfire)
create a profile with the default clock speeds (I named mine 'mem')
go to the oc screen in ati tool with the sliders and click mem (this will show your cards default timings)
change the timings
save the timings under the profile you created earlier
go back and select the 2nd card you want to change
click mem again in the sliders window
select the profile you created earlier and hit apply
open riva tuner
-----------------
under power user select RIva tuner \overclocking\ ati
enable driverlevel 3dclock control (+1)
(adjust fans to 100%)
go to main tab\customize\graphics subsystem diagnostic report\
ati specific display adapter information (this will show you the increments on how you will adjust your memory clocks) $ffffffffff ATI specific display adapter information
----------------------------------------------------------------
$0900000000 Graphics core : RV570 (12tmu)
$0900000002 Memory bus : 256-bit
$0900000001 Memory type : DDR3 SGRAM
$0900000003 Memory amount : 256MB
$0900000004 Core clock : 580.500MHz
$0900000005 Memory clock : 702.000MHz (1404.000MHz effective)
$0900000006 Reference clock : 27.000MHz
(mine is 27)
OVERCLOCK THE CARDS
------------------------
go to main tab\customize\low-level system settings (this is where you overclock the cards)
oc your core clock (you should know what your gpu core can handle by now) I set mine to 654
next overclocking the mem (this is the tricky part)
increase it by 27MHZ step e.g. by reference clock. so on my board i have:
702(default) then +27=729 etc. etc. just keep adding 27 or you can also move slider to 783 right from the start providing that your mem can handle it.
729, 756, 783, 810, 837, 864, 891... and so on.
next select the 2nd card and repeat the overclock.
Its best to run each card separately at first so you know what your cards max out at.
one of my cards does 654/837 and the other does 641/756 (just remember which pci bus your cards are on. I put the better card in the top x16 slot and the crap card on the bottom slot.
hope this helps. Thanks to everyone for contributing.
Very nice trans am...This should be a sticky...:banana:
Nice guide.
Its a little bit Sad that we have some difficulties when OCing those cards.
Would like to hear that a new version supports the X1950 PRo (from all brands, since it seems that different brands, hace different software to Overclock.
Allright! gAF, you are the man! I haven't been able to implement this memory OCing technique yet, as I've been working quite a bit the last few days. I tried tonight, and so far I am at 770 MHz on the memory. Benches coming soon! I had to set the clocks in Rivatuner by using gAF's advice on page 9 (I think), then saving them in my profile in ATI Tray Tools. This has worked thus far, and I would like to note, unless someone has already said so, that using the artifact scanner in ATI Tool will falsely report artifacts if you overlock the memory. I was using the patched version, too. I used the artifact scanner in ATI Tray Tools, and it worked perfectly fine.
I tried using the timings provided, and they didn't work for me: the screen went black, but no crash. I could still hear my music playing, and I could contol the media player.
EDIT: I have my memory stable at 823 MHz, and OMFG the benches in ATI Tray Tools have increased by a lot! I will have 3dmark scores later on today.
Still haven't gotten the timings going just yet.....if someone could point me towards some reading on video ram timings that would be great, becuase I would rather learn the concept than just be told what to do.
LOL guys look at 3dmark 2006 score of this guy with a x1950Pro AGP and a A64 3700 Clawhamer@2800mhz = 6900 Marks (its impossible)
and in 2005 only get 9600 marks with same system
http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/8...omscorenf4.jpg
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/6...mark052yq9.jpg
:D :D
Quote:
Originally Posted by mascaras
Impossible! This guy should be banned for posting fake screens.
I edited my max OC to BIOS
now my card defaults at 669/749.... mem timings changes won't help mem to OC more.
You got a good core. What cooling?
Guys I was overclocking last night and running 3dmark 2006 and on 1st test I was getting 50k 49k 47k etc. then it goes to about half that. then in the 2nd test firefly forest I am getting like 16fps? it just kept getting worse. Is this a heat issue? there were no visual artifacts but as the benchmark progressed my fps kept dropping. finally my score is like 6500 in crossfire 641/810 641/756 and the optimal mem timings. Any ideas? My score at stock is about 7.5k in 2006
Firefly forest is the rude test and usually the FPS are about the half (or less) compared with the Canon Flight and Proxycoon test.
It seems like there is no heat issue there.
you said when OCing youve got 6500 and with stock cards youve got 7,500?
If yes, then, it should be a problem, what PSU do you have?
actually I checked, it is 661 Mhz on core. It is watercooled.Quote:
Originally Posted by trans am
What do I need to do to OC the mem in 27Mhz steps? The slider won't let me get it precise enuf...
use the left and right arrow keys on your keyboard between control and numeric keypad.Quote:
Originally Posted by DAK1640
as for my 2006 results..take a look at this. The results are pretty disturbing
i'm using an ocz powerstream 520w
Main Test Results
3DMark Score 6334 3DMarks
SM 2.0 Score 2662 Marks
SM 3.0 Score 2244 Marks
CPU Score 3112 Marks
Detailed Test Results
Graphics Tests
1 - Return to Proxycon 26.15 FPS
2 - Firefly Forest 18.219 FPS
CPU Tests
CPU1 - Red Valley 0.987 FPS
CPU2 - Red Valley 1.57 FPS
HDR Tests
1 - Canyon Flight (SM 3.0) 21.098 FPS
2 - Deep Freeze (SM 3.0) 23.789 FPS
--------------------------------------------------
Here is what I normally get when overclocked
Main Test Results
3DMark Score 8307 3DMarks
SM 2.0 Score 3190 Marks
SM 3.0 Score 3558 Marks
CPU Score 3062 Marks
Detailed Test Results
Graphics Tests
1 - Return to Proxycon 25.513 FPS
2 - Firefly Forest 27.645 FPS
CPU Tests
CPU1 - Red Valley 0.971 FPS
CPU2 - Red Valley 1.546 FPS
HDR Tests
1 - Canyon Flight (SM 3.0) 34.189 FPS
2 - Deep Freeze (SM 3.0) 36.968 FPS
look at deep freeze and canyon flight!! dropped almost 10 fps!!
Heres the crossfire x1950 pros at stock speeds:
Score: 7795
Date: 2006-12-20
CPU: Intel Core 2 3600 MHz
GPU: ATI RADEON X1950 PRO
580 MHz / 702 MHz
OS: Microsoft Windows XP
Res: 1280x1024
System
e6400 3.6ghz (apogee water) 1.6vcore
p5b dlx wifi
2 asus x1950 pro (crossfire) stock coolers
3 x 120mm fans, 3 x 90mm fans, 1 mcp600 water pump
1 wd 80gb raptor
1 optical drive
1sb audigy platinum with drive bay
ocz 520w
Do you think its a psu issue?
Your PSU is on it's limits when running Crossfire at overclocked cards.Quote:
Originally Posted by trans am
I increased the pots on the back of the psu a little.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spacehead
still really crappy firefly scores!! All other tests were much better than my previous 2006 scores but firefly is just terrible!
how the hell was I geting 27fps in firefly before?
Main Test Results
3DMark Score 8097 3DMarks
SM 2.0 Score 2768 Marks
SM 3.0 Score 3785 Marks
CPU Score 3040 Marks
Detailed Test Results
Graphics Tests
1 - Return to Proxycon 27.491 FPS
2 - Firefly Forest 18.644 FPS
CPU Tests
CPU1 - Red Valley 0.962 FPS
CPU2 - Red Valley 1.537 FPS
HDR Tests
1 - Canyon Flight (SM 3.0) 36.761 FPS
2 - Deep Freeze (SM 3.0) 38.929 FPS
Adjusting voltage won't give you more power. If your scores increased, then your PSU can''t handle crossfire. Consider OCZ GameXstream 700WQuote:
Originally Posted by trans am
Note Trans Am....you have the same core OC that I have, 661. I think that this clock has reached our voltage limit for our cards, as I don't have temperature issues at all at this clock. I have my memory at 832 stable.
If you guys would like to post you maximum memory overclock. vendor, and memroy type, that would be great!
Mine is 832 MHz, Samsung BC14:
http://www.3dnews.ru/_imgdata/img/2006/11/24/33898.jpg
Hynix FP-14 749 Mhz... starts artifacting aroung 775Quote:
Originally Posted by binormalkilla
maybe adjusting timings would give more bandwith, but I don't understand Videocard memory timings so well.
Btw. You get with AMD X2 3800+ about thousand points more on 3DMark06 and at stock clocks. Damn, I want C2D!
samsung K4J55323QG BC14 gddr3 1.4ns
@binormalkilla my core clocks max about 641-648 on both cards. pcie bus is at 120mhz
So SPacehead thinks its my psu? I need a new one anyway. the on/off switch on the psu broke last night. now I need to unplug the cable everytime with the stupid p5bdlx coldboot problems.
Ill buy the 700w ocz and rma this one and use the replacement as a spare.
I haven't even OCed my core yet, I am ordering a motherboard tonight, as soon as I compile enough research on the matter, freaking newegg.com ran out of the DFI Lanparty CFX3200.....
LOL I don't know much about changing timings, either, but if I find some literature on this issue, I will surely pass it on to you!
You should try the same optimal timings I'm using I posted in the guide above. since we are using the same icsQuote:
Originally Posted by binormalkilla
Yea my I have that PSU, and it has SOOO many cords! It is a really great PSU, also has a blue LED in the fan, not to mention that it is totally silent.
I tried them and I got a black screen, but no crash. I will give it a shot again. Should I have the hotkey poller disabled? Becuase I do LOL! Also, any other specific settings that need to be changed let me know. I am setting the memory clocks in Rivatuner, then saving the profile in ATI Tray Tools.
Also, did you change any settings in the ATI Tool patched version?
Are these the optimal timings that you used, or the second one posted by gAF?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...5&d=1166748157
Quote:
Originally Posted by binormalkilla
no those are default timings. use the optimal ones on the right
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...6&d=1166748157
Ok that's what I thought, those are the timings that I tried....as soon as I finish researching my products that I"m ordering I'll give it a shot and get back with you, thanks man!
Hey Trans AM, for one reason or the other, I can't run those timings. When I save and apply them, and I try to open another program, such as the internet, I get a black screen. I tried disabling clock auto tuning under X1000 series overclocking, and my mouse cursor turned into a black square! WTF? Anyway, what are you stock timings from Rivatuner? Here are mine:http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1166865953
I even double and triple checked myself to make sure that I entered the timings correctly, and everything was ok. Maybe we have the same IC chips, but different ring bus controller.
binormalkilla your mem steps was 27MHz too? and what your bios defaults freqs gpu/mem?
Yes, that is correct, my memory frequency step is 27 MHz, and the default clocks are 635/743, respectively. It already has a decent OC out of the box. When I tried to get the memory up to 850, I had artifacting after only 30s-1 min of artifact scanning in ATI Tray Tools, but with my new mobo and case fans coming, maybe that will change. Has anyone tried OCing the PCI-E bus speed yet for the OC on this card? I have read that this helps.
can i apply any of this to my card?
tiro_uspsss you're welcome:) btw, what is your card gpu/mem default clocks?
is that a yes? me is stoopid.... default clocks, um.. well under CCC>ATI OD it says 594mhz:GPU 695mhz:MEM
tiro_uspsss ok. look first post on previous page. there is detailed step by step guide.
will do when i get up in morning... still downloading 3dmarks...
Ok, I tried using the same arithmetic operations as you did for your timings, by comparing you stock timings to the original. Here is what I tried with mine, as my default timings are different.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1166929286
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1166929286
After I saved there timings to my profile and applied, then closed Firefox, the screen shifted upwards. I anyone has suggestions, please help!
ok so i'm running 3dm06 as i type - what settings SHOULD have i chosen? at the moment its running at 1920x1440 2xAA 16xAF
:banana::banana::banana::banana: A BRICK! 100% CPU USEAGE... *its ok baby, here, extra cooling for u (points desktop fan into case)*
ok theres my first 3dm06 results ever
& there's 3dm05
still downloading 3dm03... should i run & post pcm05 results?
Dude, end those background applications! Those scores are VERY low! You should be getting >4000 in 06 and >8000 in 05 at least.
what settings should i run them @?
& finally here is 3dm03
see all of the icons in your system tray (bottom right)? They have corresponding processes. Keep them from starting at boot by typing msconfig in to the run dialog box (start>run). Then end all of the startup apps except the ones that you think that you need. Here is mine for example. I only have my keyboard buttons, ati tray tools (overclocking), amd dual core optimizer, and the vista wannabe powertoys app called taskswitch. If you don't have that AMD dual core optimizer and the other drivers and apps, then get them here:
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/..._13118,00.html
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1166948673
WOW you have zonealarm running too....that alone takes up 25-50 MB of RAM, not to mention all of the other stuff. Go to www.tweakguides.com and check out the Windows Tweaking Companion: that will tell you how to disable all of the unneeded things.
Ok I also see that you have some of the settings cranked up in the tests in 3dmark, so set them to default, as that is what most people do (I do at least) because most people don't buy the full version.
dude i know how to get rid of all those things - its only 50mb ram - i have 2000mb RAM - i monitored my ram usage during the bench marks, & my ram usage didnt even get to 60%... i'll turn them off anyway, but i think its my settings holding down the score
do i keep ccc on?
try default resolution 1280x1024 :slapass:
not 1920x1440
stop that.... its turning me on..
JUST KIDDING! :-)
LOL I was just wondering.....but that many apps running isn't good regardless.....and if you were monitoring the RAM usage during 3dmark you contaminated your score anyway. CPU usage is a huge factor in 3dmark. You shouldn't have any programs in the taskbar when you are benching or playing games, like me (see the screenshot?), and I have 2 Gbs of RAM as well.
You're right though, the main thing pulling your score down is the high-res settings.
do u guys turn of all that stuff when u play ur games? please say no...
2nd run of 3dm06 with pretty much everything turned except ccc - my pc actually restarted during run when i had it (ccc) turned of - so this time i kept it on & it has completed...
I don't have anything running in the background that I am not using, ever. If I need it, I load it, and when I finish I exit! Now I don't know why your score is low. Should be pretty close to mine....hmmmm....anyone?
BTW the only application that I have in the memory in any given time is the Alt+tab Powertoy that mimics Vista: it shows a screenshot when you alt+tab, and only takes up 1 Mb of RAM.
You even have the same memory as me (amount too.)
u did say it should b >4000, which it is... urs might b higher 'cause ur vid card is oc'd (mine isnt - YET)... i'm waaay too lazy to turn of all those lil programs, & i'm def too lazy to bother to turn them back on - thats half the reason i bought so much computing horsepower!
having a second look - that score aint that bad is it? trans am got 4427 on his first post in this thread (1st page - duh) & he's got a C2D @ 3.6ghz ... i got 4457 - then again this is the first time i'm doing benches of any sort, so what would i know hehe