OPB's 3rd attempt got super pi 1m 8.906s and new pifast wr

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10-18-2006, 07:08 AM
gut

to everyone who doubts OPB,
Please fly to OPB's house, and bet 10000USD,
I believe OPB will be very glad to make a WR super pi show and win your money, try it!
10-18-2006, 07:28 AM
Langley

Quote:

Originally Posted by asus_crosshair

childish ruggero ... in fact you just wanna know the OPB's optimization secret ?

even you know his optimization method

i think you can't do this all yours life

廢物

Not the optimization man.. but THE UNIQUE OPTIMIZATION SPONSORED that can cut .2/.3s at run.... the thing is different...
Play on the same level this is that the real benchman do... i presume...
10-18-2006, 08:11 AM
Onepagebook

Quote:

Originally Posted by cpulloverclock

Opb, I did what you put in your thread from Coolaler and I havent always that
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/555...emusagenq9.jpg

it's in a reg?

Yes Sir, a very fast short cut is as followed:
1.add this:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Session
"IoPageLockLimit"=dword:00010000

2.use diagnostic mode from msconfig , and reboot

3. you need to have more than 1.8g file from OS to the dir of pi you put on extended partition, not driver.

that would be the fast way to shave 80% system usage.
but I don't recommand copy-waza uses this way, cuz that would kill some necessary services under windows 2003 will NOT make your pi faster.
10-18-2006, 08:27 AM
Onepagebook

Quote:

Originally Posted by Langley

Not the optimization man.. but THE UNIQUE OPTIMIZATION SPONSORED that can cut .2/.3s at run.... the thing is different...
Play on the same level this is that the real benchman do... i presume...

well if you do say this, then I even don't have to tell you how to after all your folks insulted me. Not am I that person, are you guys just thinking if we xxxx team isn't able do it, so is OPB.
There is no certain thing whoever can't do it or not.Only depends on that person want to do or not. I am NOT a person who comes to here and post whatever a cheating benchmark and want all you guys just say "OPB , hey way to go, you're man..." no need ok? if I tell you my B2 x6800 can also do this, you believe? and why I still recently got this b1 CPU? That's really the personal thing that doesn't have to mention here.
I know here@ XS, some just feel I am the jerk, and I know who they are;) but basically XS is still good, don't let this place become childish playground.

Here is NOT the place where your WR show off but WR sharing discussion.
10-18-2006, 08:43 AM
epox4life

Nice job on the SPI 1M WR, and thanks for all the little tweaks you posted in here, some that i've never tried.
Curious what's your total PF usage before you run SPI?
10-18-2006, 08:52 AM
cpulloverclock

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onepagebook

Yes Sir, a very fast short cut is as followed:
1.add this:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Session
"IoPageLockLimit"=dword:00010000

2.use diagnostic mode from msconfig , and reboot

3. you need to have more than 1.8g file from OS to the dir of pi you put on extended partition, not driver.

that would be the fast way to shave 80% system usage.
but I don't recommand copy-waza uses this way, cuz that would kill some necessary services under windows 2003 will NOT make your pi faster.

ok, thx sir :D, with my tweaks and your tweaks I think it's possible to get 8.7s at 5550MHz :)
They are the ultimate tips and we should use pmem
10-18-2006, 09:02 AM
Onepagebook

Quote:

Originally Posted by cpulloverclock

ok, thx sir :D, with my tweaks and your tweaks I think it's possible to get 8.7s at 5550MHz :)
They are the ultimate tips and we should use pmem

Anytime :toast:
10-18-2006, 09:16 AM
lawrywild

Quote:

Originally Posted by Langley

Sure and now i'm waiting for all the tweaks in a readme file in my mail.... lol
Be serious man.... He can't and if he can, i think he doesn't do it!

well tbh you have no right to say that

There's no reason why OPB has to tell you how he went about getting that time. He spent time and effort tweaking it himself, WHY should he just send you the tweaks that HE spend his TIME and EFFORT working out?

Accusing OPB of cheating is downright outrageous. He is one of the nicest guys I've met on the internet. He is very helpful and likes to have a good laugh. Just because you are jealous that he has beaten your team in the race to 8 seconds, doesn't mean he is a cheat. The more you post silly comments, the more respect your team loses in the OC World..
10-18-2006, 09:23 AM
Langley

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onepagebook

well if you do say this, then I even don't have to tell you how to after all your folks insulted me. Not am I that person, are you guys just thinking if we xxxx team isn't able do it, so is OPB.
There is no certain thing whoever can't do it or not.Only depends on that person want to do or not. I am NOT a person who comes to here and post whatever a cheating benchmark and want all you guys just say "OPB , hey way to go, you're man..." no need ok? if I tell you my B2 x6800 can also do this, you believe? and why I still recently got this b1 CPU? That's really the personal thing that doesn't have to mention here.
I know here@ XS, some just feel I am the jerk, and I know who they are;) but basically XS is still good, don't let this place become childish playground.

Here is NOT the place where your WR show off but WR sharing discussion.

Ok man... so the future will speak for us... ;)
Congratulations.
10-18-2006, 09:24 AM
gillll

wow!!! :clap: :clap: :clap:

i think OPB that u'd better be in outer space

@ -273 u'd have much more fun.
10-18-2006, 09:25 AM
Langley

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrywild

well tbh you have no right to say that

There's no reason why OPB has to tell you how he went about getting that time. He spent time and effort tweaking it himself, WHY should he just send you the tweaks that HE spend his TIME and EFFORT working out?

Accusing OPB of cheating is downright outrageous. He is one of the nicest guys I've met on the internet. He is very helpful and likes to have a good laugh. Just because you are jealous that he has beaten your team in the race to 8 seconds, doesn't mean he is a cheat. The more you post silly comments, the more respect your team loses in the OC World..

No Comment.
10-18-2006, 09:38 AM
Maxxpower

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrywild

well tbh you have no right to say that

There's no reason why OPB has to tell you how he went about getting that time. He spent time and effort tweaking it himself, WHY should he just send you the tweaks that HE spend his TIME and EFFORT working out?

Accusing OPB of cheating is downright outrageous. He is one of the nicest guys I've met on the internet. He is very helpful and likes to have a good laugh. Just because you are jealous that he has beaten your team in the race to 8 seconds, doesn't mean he is a cheat. The more you post silly comments, the more respect your team loses in the OC World..

:slap: are you crazy? what do you drink before this post?

no one is accusing opb...we need only explanations and validation for this great result
10-18-2006, 09:47 AM
day187

OPB hat of to you sir :eek: :eek:
10-18-2006, 10:09 AM
lawrywild

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maxxpower

:slap: are you crazy? what do you drink before this post?

no one is accusing opb...we need only explanations and validation for this great result

http://www.orlyowl.com/upload/files/sean-o-rly.jpg

Looked like accusing to me.
10-18-2006, 10:25 AM
Ghost

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrywild

well tbh you have no right to say that

There's no reason why OPB has to tell you how he went about getting that time. He spent time and effort tweaking it himself, WHY should he just send you the tweaks that HE spend his TIME and EFFORT working out?

Accusing OPB of cheating is downright outrageous. He is one of the nicest guys I've met on the internet. He is very helpful and likes to have a good laugh. Just because you are jealous that he has beaten your team in the race to 8 seconds, doesn't mean he is a cheat. The more you post silly comments, the more respect your team loses in the OC World..

:clap: my compliments......no comment :yawn2: :wasntme:
10-18-2006, 10:36 AM
lawrywild

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghost

:clap: my compliments......no comment :yawn2: :wasntme:

Congratulations on one helluva post

Is that all you could come up with?
10-18-2006, 10:39 AM
lawrywild

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maxxpower

we need only validation for this great result

oh btw, is that just something you made up?

Since when did Pi validations exist? I'd really like to know HOW you can validate a pi result..
10-18-2006, 11:21 AM
Highland3r

Good to see this thread is sorting the "men" from the "boys"

The result is awsome. Granted some people are going to have doubt's, that's their problem. As with anything that seems to good to be true, people feel it has to be proved that it IS true, rather than looking at the results and seeing for themselves.
Without pioneers or those pushing the envelope, we'd live in a very boring world...

People "flaming" those who have issues, stop. You're adding fuel to the fire,
it's attitudes like this thread which drive people away.
10-18-2006, 11:23 AM
Maxxpower

@lawrywild: there is the cpu-z validation on cpu-id site...and pi validation on XS site...when opb post these validation..i can accept his wr...
10-18-2006, 11:28 AM
Hondo=TFD=

OPB says...http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...r1/chopfav.gif

VN man.
10-18-2006, 11:30 AM
Onepagebook

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maxxpower

@lawrywild: there is the cpu-z validation on cpu-id site...and pi validation on XS site...when opb post these validation..i can accept his wr...

Didn't I post the 5566mhz the other day for validation?
if I can do 5566mhz then why I can not do 5549 with that?
pi validation? well, fugger post that checksum link already, isn't it?

Be cool lawrywild, if I am right, no matter how, I am always right, If I am wrong then even you fight for me cause you got banned, it doesn't help at all.
I greatly appreciate those people who spoke for me.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=82419
http://www.xtremesystems.com/pi/

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/3...checkedbp8.jpg

CPU,

any of these two is higher than 5549mhz
both of these 2 are benchable

http://www.ocxtreme.org/onepagebook/...2/5566cpuz.jpg

http://www.ocxtreme.org/onepagebook/1010ln2/x68WR.jpg
10-18-2006, 11:45 AM
Yoxxy

I didn't join here for a long time while I was lurking. OPB is a genuinely nice guy to everyone that he talks to. All that trying to turn his record into cheating has done is make you and your team look like a bunch of babies. You got beat to 8 seconds, you were close, but in the end tweaking wins out. Look at Team Japans results for times that although people would have 5-10% boost in clock speed could not be beat. Your team may have better clocks, but OPB beat you to 8. It may seem like all your hard work is for nothing, but that doesn't give you the right to call him a cheater. All you have done is disgraced yourself and your team for the future...
10-18-2006, 11:53 AM
MaSell

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onepagebook

but I don't recommand copy-waza uses this way, cuz that would kill some necessary services under windows 2003 will NOT make your pi faster.

So what way you recommend for 1m and 16/32m runs :D ?

What version od 2k3 did you used?
10-18-2006, 12:00 PM
Onepagebook

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaSell

So what way you recommend for 1m and 16/32m runs :D ?

What version od 2k3 did you used?

What I said "not recommand" is that you don't have to kill all the services to make your system looks pure and clean, your system still need some essential service IIRC as well as if you do it that way, that doesn't boost any performance I promise.

During the AMD period , I even had hard time to run 1m under maxmem=104 setting, basically could be I use 2x1g, even you have 512x2, still shaky somehow. so, think about the capacity from the memory you installed and used especially Intel is totally different from AMD.

hint.:
if you run super pi under real time mode, it will be really faster than you run it normal mode. That's 100% correct under AMD system.
From Intel, you will be correct if that apply to 1~8m ONLY. Sometimes, 8m even not get any improved either.

OPB
10-18-2006, 12:56 PM
MaSell

OK I understand. Few more questions:D

How about this services? I guess you don't share with us which you are keepping ( I'm wrong :D ? )... so, maybe you tell how many are you keeping ;) ?

What do you think about running wth 4x512 or 4x1GB (:D) sticks? It should be faster i think. Are you trying to run 11x500 with higher vdimm and vmch? Little worse timings but maybe it will give small boost?

What version 2k3 did you used? 32/64bit?

And very interesting idea with value of IoPageLockLimit - I never try to test it that way :)

BTW
Are you using Ramdisk?
10-18-2006, 01:19 PM
LordofDoom

Actually, that Ramdisk might be an awesome way to run SPI :D
10-18-2006, 02:39 PM
uclajd

Congrats on the WR.

But with a record as significant as SuperPi 1M, nobody is above verification. I don't care if Jesus himself posts an 8.5, healthy skepticism is a good thing on the Internet (for my part, I don't doubt him at all, but the whiny phanboys defending him are just too obnoxious).

The day you think anyone is above proving himself, that's the day you become a phanboy.

FWIW, I think most of the doubters are trying to psych OPB into revealing his tricks, and I say, good! :lol:

BTW, not willing to read 10 pages, what RAM did OPB use?
10-18-2006, 02:42 PM
LordofDoom

His own DDR2 TX OPB edition.

BTW, eww @ cat, that's just gross, kittie pr0n.

-Satan
10-18-2006, 02:54 PM
Revv23

Quote:

Originally Posted by uclajd

Congrats on the WR.

But with a record as significant as SuperPi 1M, nobody is above verification. I don't care if Jesus himself posts an 8.5, healthy skepticism is a good thing on the Internet (for my part, I don't doubt him at all, but the whiny phanboys defending him are just too obnoxious).

The day you think anyone is above proving himself, that's the day you become a phanboy.

FWIW, I think most of the doubters are trying to psych OPB into revealing his tricks, and I say, good! :lol:

BTW, not willing to read 10 pages, what RAM did OPB use?

Certainly not but you can use the checksum in the very first post if you dont believe it. Thats as far as things needed to go.
10-18-2006, 03:33 PM
cpulloverclock

I started an optimization file (not finished) with some tweaks, available there
for an 1M run luna.theme + prefetcher=1 is better than a copy waza, I'm sure :)

http://cpull.free.fr/Computer-scienc...timization.rar
10-18-2006, 03:37 PM
mursaat

Yes, you don't rant for 5 pages and then ask for a checksum that was in the first post :p:

But maybe the italians have been smarter than all of us and they only wanted hints (but again, ONLY if that was the case, I don't know if that's a good way of doing things in a team looking for a WR :stick:)
10-18-2006, 05:16 PM
fhpchris

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onepagebook

ya, forgot to say, if I wanna cheat or something, I won't show you those information(about how fast I post ont the 5566 or whatever ) and then stupid enought to decreas some freq then post next day say wow, I got this and I am the man...that is the damn most stupid without wisdom way to cheat.

Oh ya, I also remember that Cpulloverclock did the same thing when Coolaler had 9.00 1m WR...and apologized
he is way more better than those just shout here and do nothing.

oh forgot to say as well, mattstrike3, you don't have to waste time to explain that to them,
and for this moment, I change my mind, I won't even share in public how I put the effort to sort out all the tune up and
re-organize all the information Coolaler-san discuss with me the day before I did the bench. Cuz basically they are not
worth to let me do so. oh, I only share how I did that @ coolaler.com Hope they can easily understand that traditional
chinese so they can understand, but I doubt they are capable of learning that language that fast.;)

here you go, learn some Chinese before go there and check it. Good luck

http://forum.coolaler.com/showpost.p...9&postcount=45
http://forum.coolaler.com/showpost.p...2&postcount=49

Chinese is a difficult language :)
10-18-2006, 05:39 PM
Onepagebook

Quote:

Originally Posted by cpulloverclock

I started an optimization file (not finished) with some tweaks, available there
for an 1M run luna.theme + prefetcher=1 is better than a copy waza, I'm sure :)

really? here is a way even more awesome that one of the XS great member just remind me.

check your system.ini, from [386enh]
two varibles you can take the consideration and try:
ConservativeSwapfileUsage and MinTimeSlice;)
10-18-2006, 06:05 PM
[cTx]Philosophy

I thought taking a picture while its running was good enough validation for the rest of the community, ot has team italy changed the rules now?
10-18-2006, 06:32 PM
Onepagebook

Quote:

Originally Posted by [cTx]Philosophy

I thought taking a picture while its running was good enough validation for the rest of the community, ot has team italy changed the rules now?

you know what bro

first of all, I am only by muself, when the moment I ready to do 1m, I need to wait for the pot 's minimum temp which can stand for the speed I set and now add the proper LN2 for system to run the 1m, can't be too much, otherwise, it will be freeze after you finish the run. and ok, now is the problem, I use DSLR, when the timing I power on my Camera and have focus on, (also it's not normal object, so it's hard to give the focus and everything.)
sometimes the 1m already done for running. That's why I said I need several hands. Actually I got several times sub-9s, but when I was ready to capture the screeny, it got freeze due to the temp has raised already....Play LN2 is DAMN hard...lol
10-18-2006, 09:21 PM
2fink

congrats!!! :toast:
hope to see some more great results in near future!
10-18-2006, 11:09 PM
Revv23

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattstrike3

Why even take a picture with a digicam?

The score was done. CPU-Z validation and PI validation are right thats enough.

LOL, whats next having to take a MPEG of your 3dmark runs to verifiy to people?

i think he got the digicam shot in case the pc crashed before he got a screen :)
10-18-2006, 11:42 PM
hipro5

I believe that the score is fake coz OPB didn't used our DDR Maximizer to archive it.....:D :toast:
10-18-2006, 11:55 PM
Revv23

Quote:

Originally Posted by hipro5

I believe that the score is fake coz OPB didn't used our DDR Maximizer to archive it.....:D :toast:

Get him one!!!

And throw one in for me!! :)
10-18-2006, 11:59 PM
Dagalidis

Hard to believe it? ... YES !!!!
But OPB always make impossible looking just a bad Joke.... :toast:

BTW.. Congrats again my friend and don’t waste your time on some X-Posts..
Focus on your next miracle to come.....:clap:
10-19-2006, 12:07 AM
cpulloverclock

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onepagebook

really? here is a way even more awesome that one of the XS great member just remind me.

check your system.ini, from [386enh]
two varibles you can take the consideration and try:
ConservativeSwapfileUsage and MinTimeSlice;)

Thx, it's a Win98 tweak :D
10-19-2006, 12:09 AM
zbogorgon

Quote:

Originally Posted by hipro5

I believe that the score is fake coz OPB didn't used our DDR Maximizer to archive it.....:D :toast:

:ROTF: , i bet TeamGroup doesn't let him :ROTF:
10-19-2006, 12:44 AM
Dumo

Amazing OPB:toast:

To the doubtsters...Get your best 6800 then pass this WR.
Don't just wasting time.
10-19-2006, 12:56 AM
Onepagebook

Dumo -san,
Thank you for ALWAYS encourage me!!

@@ hey hey, Master Hipro5... I got that baby after this bench..:D

@ CPU-san, it's really got something in there, just try it;)
10-19-2006, 01:00 AM
Nosfer@tu

Way to go ;)

I would use digital camera to, Dont like to trust a computer that runs 80 % faster than normal :D
10-19-2006, 01:25 AM
cpulloverclock

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onepagebook

Dumo -san,
Thank you for ALWAYS encourage me!!

@@ hey hey, Master Hipro5... I got that baby after this bench..:D

@ CPU-san, it's really got something in there, just try it;)

I'm checking it

but it's linked to win386.swp (win 9X and ME), for XP, 2k, 2k3 the swap file is pagefile.sys, we can always try that
10-19-2006, 01:30 AM
Onepagebook

no , there is nothing to do with pagefile , instead of that, it merely just set the file usage only;)
10-19-2006, 01:33 AM
mursaat

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onepagebook

you know what bro

first of all, I am only by muself, when the moment I ready to do 1m, I need to wait for the pot 's minimum temp which can stand for the speed I set and now add the proper LN2 for system to run the 1m, can't be too much, otherwise, it will be freeze after you finish the run. and ok, now is the problem, I use DSLR, when the timing I power on my Camera and have focus on, (also it's not normal object, so it's hard to give the focus and everything.)
sometimes the 1m already done for running. That's why I said I need several hands. Actually I got several times sub-9s, but when I was ready to capture the screeny, it got freeze due to the temp has raised already....Play LN2 is DAMN hard...lol

Some don't realize we're talking of LESS than 9 seconds. What do they want 5 camera stills like in a 32M run? :stick:

You've proved enough with the spi checksum. So don't bother explaining yourself anymore ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maxxpower

no one is accusing opb...we need only explanations and validation for this great result

Since OPB has already posted the checksum, shouldn't someone say something? You've been muted for 2 pages, not saying you should apologize, just say something like "Well finally it's been proved, congratulations etc etc"
10-19-2006, 01:40 AM
Onepagebook

Quote:

Originally Posted by mursaat

.....Since OPB has already posted the checksum, shouldn't someone say something? You've been muted for 2 pages, not saying you should apologize, just say something like "Well finally it's been proved, congratulations etc etc"

Not necessary, as long as they are cool, then I am more than happy to share all my work.
I am not 100% correct, but at least I won't hide anything I know of tweaking this benchmark.:) Fair enough.:toast:
10-19-2006, 02:00 AM
kemo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onepagebook

Not necessary, as long as they are cool, then I am more than happy to share all my work.
I am not 100% correct, but at least I won't hide anything I know of tweaking this benchmark.:) Fair enough.:toast:

You said you got many sub 9 sec but the CPU froze
Is that screen is your absolutely max
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juggalos
10-19-2006, 02:01 AM
Langley

In my opinion... tons of fan boy are there... only this.
OPB and now? The next run be careful and marks another .4/.5s with the same freq/multi/timings ;)
10-19-2006, 02:16 AM
kemo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Langley

In my opinion... tons of fan boy are there... only this.
OPB and now? The next run be careful and marks another .4/.5s with the same freq/multi/timings ;)

for how long you have been waiting to say this
________
Chevelle
10-19-2006, 02:28 AM
Ghost

Quote:

Originally Posted by Langley

In my opinion... tons of fan boy are there... only this.
OPB and now? The next run be careful and marks another .4/.5s with the same freq/multi/timings ;)

langley ...my friends....stop please....

è inutile continuare...abbiamo capito ke so de coccio ^_^
10-19-2006, 02:34 AM
funkflix

Really ridiculous what some guys are posting here, and how they do it..

Great time OPB and thx a lot for sharing ur tweaks! I'm a bit confused now, because it is really much, but i think i will find a way to understand all of this stuff! :toast:
10-19-2006, 03:00 AM
lawrywild

Quote:

Originally Posted by Langley

In my opinion... tons of fan boy are there... only this.
OPB and now? The next run be careful and marks another .4/.5s with the same freq/multi/timings ;)

Grow up.
10-19-2006, 03:06 AM
kemo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghost

langley ...my friends....stop please....

? inutile continuare...abbiamo capito ke so de coccio ^_^

it is a good thing that you know ?it is useless to continue ?
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hashish
10-19-2006, 04:17 AM
Dumo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Langley

In my opinion... tons of fan boy are there... only this.
OPB and now? The next run be careful and marks another .4/.5s with the same freq/multi/timings ;)

Hey Langley:( Just run your own 8 seconds SDuper PI and stop crapping this thread ok?
Its benching and probly sooner or later OPB or someone else (probly you) will passed 7 seconds, so if anyone doesn't have any positive things to say then take a hike.

@Langley....Your 43 count posts mostly started whit congrats or bleh:) Post your Super Pi run.
It is not healthy!!
10-19-2006, 05:00 AM
Ghost

Quote:

Originally Posted by kemo6600

it is a good thing that you know “it is useless to continue “

yes....but...can you translate the second part? no i think....^_^. Stop please...i'm bored.
10-19-2006, 05:02 AM
andL64

the World Is Yours
10-19-2006, 05:23 AM
kemo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghost

yes....but...can you translate the second part? no i think....^_^. Stop please...i'm bored.

well I can translate a few words from the second part but it doesn?t make any sense and I don?t care
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Honda Zest history
10-19-2006, 06:18 AM
skaktuss

if someone makes some good job in the name of his recently gone friend and others call it bs... damn you guys have no respect at all! :slapass:
10-19-2006, 06:25 AM
gillll

just out of curiosity if the system had used lets say the gigabyte iram as os/pf partition would the results be better ?
10-19-2006, 06:27 AM
VictorWang

I think, cpucore is very very hot over 5.4Ghz, even under LN2 cooling.
doesn't matter if you turns off C1E or CPU internal thermal control in bios or not.
Intel cpu always protects itself very well.
maybe that's one reason why OPB's 5.45G pi_1m faster than coolaler's 5.5G.
and higher fsb/different mobo/higher ram_clk and better ram_sub_timings.
besides,conroe runs slower if you disable one core, 'coz there is always other tasks in the OS.

beside, OPB is the master in OS optimize.
but 88MB mem usage before pi running is not something special.
mine=33MB as bellow, normal system start and with memset running :
http://vic.expreview.com/attachment/1153232377.jpg

still Congratz OPB's great results.
wish I have time to play with u guys... but .......... :(
10-19-2006, 06:32 AM
VictorWang

and here is the System service opt thread on my blog:
http://vic.expreview.com/read.php?34&part=2
10-19-2006, 06:39 AM
Onepagebook

Dang, I hate you victor.:D.you deserve as XL no doubt.
10-19-2006, 08:25 AM
thunderstruck!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onepagebook

Dang, I hate you victor.:D.you deserve as XL no doubt.

I'll second that. Nice work Victor.
10-19-2006, 08:38 AM
K404

Quote:

Originally Posted by VictorWang

and here is the System service opt thread on my blog:
http://vic.expreview.com/read.php?34&part=2

Damn I wish that was in English :)

K
10-19-2006, 10:52 AM
Onepagebook

Quote:

Originally Posted by K404

Damn I wish that was in English :)

K

That part is what he taught me..honestly

OT:
He will do the translation if you find any girl sing for him.;):D
10-19-2006, 10:58 AM
Maxxpower

ok...I've seen the validation...so..the wr is your opb...excuse me for same reply...

sorry for my bad english

maxx
10-19-2006, 11:53 AM
Enoc

congrats OBP...:banana:

:D
10-19-2006, 12:27 PM
Onepagebook

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maxxpower

ok...I've seen the validation...so..the wr is your opb...excuse me for same reply...

sorry for my bad english

maxx

No problem at all, I hope everyone just no such bad feeling.
Forget about everything and if you guys need my hands to help,
I will definitely do my best.

Thank you for your understanding.

OPB
10-19-2006, 01:34 PM
v_parrello

I red this thread with a lot of interest.
First of all OPB, congratulation man, you are best in the world for SuperPI 1M and one of the best overclockers in the world:clap: :worship: . Anything to say about your world record, only an insane curiosity to know how you made this incredible tweaking (I know thath you will not share your secrets with everybody, but after a lot of hard work this is the right thing to do).

My great curiosity has been provoked from a previous post that I red in this thread. I want to stress and to underline that my following argumemtation is only because I would like to know more about these arguments, and I am shure that the score posted in the previous post is true and is not a fake (congratulation also to this man, coolaler, that is at the moment the best overcloker in the world:worship: :worship: ), but there is something that I can't figure out how it is possible. Before the argument opened from this thread I had not never watched to this score with attention, and after the tiscussion started in this thread I watched with more attention to the screenshoot of previous superpi 1M WR, that is contained in the following screenshot (I underlined what I can not figure out ):
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/2...69000s1qn0.jpg

I try to explain better what I cant figure out and I am shure that there is an explanation related to the tweaking used to make the previous 9.0s world record. The last two run have been made with the following times:
loop 19 in 0.642 seconds
last loop in 0.140 seconds
In understand ( I don't know if I understand right) that the curent version of SuperPI 1M makes calculation of 1 Million decimal digits of pi calculation using Gauss-Legendre algorithm. This algoritm as second order convergent nature. Then if you want to calculate up to n digits, iteration count of the order log2 n is sufficient. E.g. 19 times for 1 million decimal digits.
To calculate superpI 1M it is necessary an initial run for value setting, 19 loops are necessary to calculate the digit with the desidered accuracy and the last loop to close the calculation with pi value.
Now if there is a tweaking to minimize the last run of SuperPI 1M this will be very exciting and I think that your record soon would be exceeded from Coolaler:) .
What I mean is that the first run and the last run of SuperPI are different from other loops in the middle, in every score I have seen the time necessary to do the first run is very short, for example: 0.125S in your WR, it is the same in S.O.T. score and in coolaler score. Instead the last run was done in 0.375s in your score, 0.390s in S.O.T score and 0.140s in coolaler score (incredible).
In the followings a chart with the run of the best three score in the world for SuperPI 1M to better understand what I mean:
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/7...perpi1mha5.jpg
from previous table it is easy to understand that the last run time of coolaler it is very impressive.
At the end is 0.140s time a result of a tweaking or is this just casuality?
Please tell me if my argumentations are totally wrong, or if is something true explain me some about this tweaking for last run.

Tanks in advance and again congratulation for your new world record. :clap:

P.S.: sorry to everybody fom my little english
10-19-2006, 02:08 PM
K404

Thats a really useful table! Seems like Coolaler only loses out compared to SOT right at the end, despite his excellent finishing time (loop 19-> finish) OPB is ahead from the get go, suggesting an improved set of bench tweaks.

*Maybe* a Maxmem/page file tweak separates SOT and Coolaler?

-> you`re English is fine! :)
10-19-2006, 02:24 PM
mursaat

If you add OPB's "loop19" and "calculate pi" it adds 0.781.
If you add coolalers "loop19" and "calculate pi" it's 0.782.

Something between the cpu, caches and memory made the loop19 to be slower and the calculate to be faster. Don't ask me why because my best 1M time is with an Opty165@3ghz :D:D
10-19-2006, 02:34 PM
cpulloverclock

I tested some tweaks and for an 1M :

- "Diagnostic Startup" is worse than "Normal Startup" , you must remove some processes (userinit.exe, svchost.exe, mdm.exe, explorer.exe, spoolsv.exe...).

- "Prefetcher"=1 is the best.

- Change "Processor Scheduling" to "Programs" and change "Memory Usage" to "Programs" is better than "Background Services" and "System Cache" (but I dont know if that will cause some problems for the highest frequency for a bench and screen).

- In "Performance Options", just "Use visual styles on windows and buttons" and maybe "Use drop shadows for icon labels on the desktop".
10-19-2006, 03:07 PM
GoriLLakoS

i think that the last loop is written on the hd...and the score is little affected by th disk....

try to run a 32m on an ide hd
and then at a raid o with 2xraptors and see the last loop
10-19-2006, 03:12 PM
camouflage

:D Yes - maybe also the astrologic constellation had an influence on that run............... :slapass:

:toast:
10-19-2006, 05:53 PM
Onepagebook

Quote:

Originally Posted by v_parrello

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/7...perpi1mha5.jpg
.....

Well, before I did that bench, I really made a table to think about any possibilties that either I can win over them by the delta between initial and 1st iteration or the 19th iteration and pi value output results. So, according to this, if you wanna win by getting faster results from these two points I set. you have two ways. I can give the hint:

** before that. Gautam ask me from 2 days ago. He wonder why I use tras as 1 instead of 4. Certainly I know 1 won't be fastern than 4 or 8; but this will affect the hint I would like to give.

Master GoriLLakoS is about correct.:D
the initial result can be faster only base on:
1. Good setting of permanent paging files (Set that file @ other HD not partition)
2.Good result depends on the writing speed on both I/O chip from Motherboard and HD block size especially on Raid (0 for the most) HD system.
3. Good result will be gained from the write to read , read to write even write to write along with precharge timing of command related settings. well what are those settings? You definitely can figure those out especially from Memset 3.0.

Hope this clear little bit.

OPB
10-20-2006, 01:20 AM
anubis

congrats:clap: :clap:
10-20-2006, 08:56 AM
Pirated

Oh! my godness... what the hell is that...
10-20-2006, 12:43 PM
CapFTP

OPB, my personal grats for the WR, you're going to make 1/3 of my best pi1m time...:D:slobber:

if the matter is to be truthful or not....this is not up to me. So...all can I say is...c'on guys (italians or not), let's go and catch him.

V_Parrello and cpulloverclock, you are the guys to look at.
I love this "I wanna understand"-style....
:)
10-20-2006, 01:03 PM
dominick32

WOW!!!! :toast:
OPB,
Can I get some of that OPB certified ram that does 3-3-3-1 @ 500 mhz? lol

Congrats on an excellent job breaking new WR's.
10-20-2006, 01:35 PM
Shaotai

boy, these pi runs have gotten waaaay too complicated for me... ;)
I just remember being happy breaking 30sec with my opty...

NICE WR!
10-20-2006, 04:07 PM
cpulloverclock

I made on AMD many tests and I know which are the best tweaks for Intel and AMD with 1M :D
10-20-2006, 06:51 PM
wedfighter

Quote:

Originally Posted by dominick32

WOW!!!! :toast:
OPB,
Can I get some of that OPB certified ram that does 3-3-3-1 @ 500 mhz? lol

Congrats on an excellent job breaking new WR's.

yeah waiting for 3-3-3-1@500 to see sub 8s :woot: :banana:
10-21-2006, 02:36 AM
Gray Mole

I am late in my post, but I want to add my congratulations.

Your tweaking and overclocking skills have been proven time and again, doing the impossible and better :)

Every time we think 'it cannot be done' you or one of your peers come along and smash our conceptions :woot: and a WR along with it.

Well done sir :toast:

Gray

PS. You must be saving a fortune in LN2 making your SPI runs so fast :D
10-21-2006, 06:07 AM
massman

OPB, great OC'ers prove their skills with insane results, but don't bother to share their tweaks. You, on the other hand, show the results AND share tweaks, what makes you bigger than other good benchers.

Big thumbs up !
10-21-2006, 07:08 AM
fatty

I'm always late but great job OBP you are a very talented overclocker :toast:
10-21-2006, 07:37 AM
Onepagebook

For those are late:D
No problem, just remember I am just as normal as you guys, but little bit more focus. So I thank you guys for the encouragement.:)
10-21-2006, 08:33 AM
hipogtr

Outstanding work as usual, OPB. Keep the WRs fresh!
10-21-2006, 08:36 AM
34th_H.uGe

:cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:
10-21-2006, 08:37 AM
34th_H.uGe

Quote:

Originally Posted by wedfighter

yeah waiting for 3-3-3-1@500 to see sub 8s :woot: :banana:

2.7V＋＋ needed :banana:
10-21-2006, 08:46 AM
OC_Windforce

Onepagebook congratulation ~!
Nice result :eek: :eek:

Bios VER and Vcore ?
10-21-2006, 11:30 AM
Onepagebook

1407, Asus p5wdh
Vcore: 1.855v
Vdimm 2.55v
Vmch 1.92v

:)
10-21-2006, 02:02 PM
OC_Windforce

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onepagebook

1407, Asus p5wdh
Vcore: 1.855v
Vdimm 2.55v
Vmch 1.92v

:)

Thank you. ;)
Is the P5WDH Vcore OVP function?
10-21-2006, 11:49 PM
Onepagebook

simply do this:

you can go under the monitor section, ignore all the monitor settings
and the key is that you can even ignore the vcore monitor, so when you save out to the Bios even you use over 1.83v(the the OV critical point Asus set for warn you got OV), the post screen won't stop.:)

OPB
10-21-2006, 11:53 PM
zbogorgon

I had OV warrning point at boot for vcore on P5WDH at 1.9v
10-22-2006, 01:13 AM
Dynasty

congrats opb.....:toast:
10-22-2006, 01:22 AM
gloatlizard

opb congratz for the result
have you ever tried an asus w64? do you know how they are under ln2 clocking? have 'em issues?
maybe i should go with a p5wdh
10-22-2006, 11:16 AM
Onepagebook

Quote:

Originally Posted by gloatlizard

opb congratz for the result
have you ever tried an asus w64? do you know how they are under ln2 clocking? have 'em issues?
maybe i should go with a p5wdh

Certainly yes Sir,
Don't go with P5WDH, That board is only my 3 rd choice and I only use that because the day I bench, I killed p5w64 ws pro then a cold bug free P5wdg2 ws pro also died, that's why I use p5wdh.otherwise I can get better result no problem.

All you have to do is get the vcore mod correctly. Andre has post the correct vcore mod. at intel section. Good luck:toast:

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