wow... nice result bingo13.... congrats... :clap:
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wow... nice result bingo13.... congrats... :clap:
Nice results Bingo, that's some nice ram you got there. Cas 3 @ 449mhz...
abit is officially back in the game.
lets see what bingo gets with a 4mb cache cpu..
Switching over now to the E6600 and then on to the Asus P5W-DH with a bios that we assisted on this week, had dual prime stable for about three hours and then ran a couple of the 3dMarks with the 7950GX2, not bad scores for the combination. Figure 7x450 is the limit on our board with the E6300, air, and no mods. One strange issue is that booting at 7 x 450FSB with this bios will either result in 449.8 or 451FSB readings depending upon the instant you take a screenshot. I loaded uGuru (it has some issues with this bios) and the most I could extend the FSB was maybe one or two before the system would crash. Still buggy in my opinion, better to boot with optimized bios settings at this time and leave uGuru on the CD. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by raju
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/574...0x73d06dz9.png
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/2...0x73d01oy7.png
that's still nice for a 975 board on the 1066 strap..
This is not so nice, still playing with it but I was able to do 9x433 with the previous bios with memory timings of 4-4-3-10. The board would do 9x422 at 3-4-3-9 with previous bios also. I could post at 9x449 and do CPU-Z screenshots at 9x444. With this bios I am able to post at 9x441 and do screenshots at 9x434 now, nothing is real stable until 9x421 and that is with the memory at 4-4-4-12 but so far 9x415 with 3-4-3-9 has been quicker to some degree. Will update again shortly and test with a X6800 later on.Quote:
Originally Posted by raju
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/8...5x7sp1mgh5.png
Thanks for taking the time to do that, I think the bios still needs work if this board is really gonna put ABit back in the frame..
I'll let you know how I get on with the E6600 next week hopefully...
regards
Raja
If I increase the FSB the memory timings go to hell, 9x416 requires 4-3-3-9 setting, 9x422 requires 4-4-4-12 for stability. I topped out at 9x427 and all that did was get me a single SPI32M run and five minutes in Quake4. I think this beta is a step backwards for the 4MB chips. I am sticking with 9x415 for 24/7 type operation at 1:1 for our CPU and board sample. Anything above 9x422 and Orthos Beta would crash within a minute. At 9x415, it ran for four hours before I stopped it. Also, my ram usually does 3-3-2-8 at this speed, 3-3-3-9 would crash at 9x415.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by raju
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/1...x7sp32mqd8.png
Time to pull out the X1950 CrossFire setup, moving on now to the 4:5 testing and will test some high end Elpidia modules. Those are separate runs of SPI 32M, testing the thermals on each core. Will post up true dual runs shortly. :)
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/171...5x93d06bw5.png
Wow, thanks for your efforts bingo :toast:
Obviously your Elpidas run a bit better than mine :D
What kind of mem timings and vdimm did you have for the RAM at 520Mhz? (4:5 ratio = FSB 416 : 520 RAM ) :)Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo13
Some update with SEMI-Moded mobo and Corsair C3 now.......1:1 action........Vdimm = 2.75Volts via DDR Maximizer......:)
http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/C...1_1_C3_png.png
I'll be back of course......;)
looking good, hipro & bingo! Glad to see that ABIT's board is doing pretty well!
Nice hipro :toast:
What was your RAM again?
he had 2x512 fatbodies and now hes on 2x1gb corsair 6400 c3.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sicness
Nice results hipro!!!
Now show us pictures of your board!! :) (just kidding mate, im sure you will when you are ready. ;))
Revv, old grouper mate ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
I'm rather new to DDR2, all I know is that Micron D9 are supposed to be the best arround. But what exactly are D9 fatbodies? Thanks.
He is using the Corsair 6400C3 (what all of my tests were based on at this time). It appears at this time that the high end Corsair - 8500C5, 6400C4, 6400C3, and Dominator are the only modules that Abit has tuned for 1:1 operation in a reliable manner up top. My testing with a variety of PC8500 modules from other suppliers indicates this pattern currently. I am still working on it. ;) While I can certainly post at higher FSB settings and run basic benchmarks I am finding with the E6600/6700 chips that 24/7 capability is quite a bit lower as indicated in previous posts, especially on a board that has not been modded. As usual HiPro5 works his magic in extremely innovative ways. :woot:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sicness
I bet hipro could even make EDO RAM working on this board :DQuote:
Originally Posted by bingo13
I'm looking for a new 2GB kit, currently looking at OCZ 6400 Plats Rev2, Cellshock (some new german brand) 6400s with D9 and TeamGroup 6400s. My budget is rather limited :(
i need to chime in with my usual remarks cuz im a bit put off by what im seeing.
to be honest. i see nothing too different than my $145 DS3 when using a 9x Mutli..
i boot 24/7 at 412 x 9. why that ? cuz its a nice even 3.7ghz... it only needs 1.43v vcore, and i dont have to increase anything else. no vmch voltage adjust ments needed or anything.
now i had hopes for this baord aside from the fact that its price is way too high, i would have paid for it had i seen better results.
but i do realise this is still early in the game. but since the day i got this DS3 i have been 100% stable at 412 x 9
now i can boot at higher FSB but it requires more volts.. and even with water.. this chip gets hot, not insanely but once i start hitting 60c i back down a little.
anyways, for me,, im pretty disappointed thus far but am holding off final judgement for now.
and yes i appreciate all the time you guys are taking to post this stuff, it takes alot of time and work to do all the screen shots and upload them and write up your findings.. not to mention the time spent doing god knows how many 32m Pi runs lol..
so keep up the good work, but when faced with $145 965 board or a $300 975 board.. of which hasnt shown me that it can do any better at 9x multi and definately hasnt done better at a lower multi. (the DS3 still can do 500 fsb on a lower multi) i honestly can't see a reason why someone would switch.
switch for 2 seconds difference on Pi ?? come now,, seems a bit silly so do that.
anywho keep up the good work guys, and i hope abit is able to make the board act better with 9x multi.
We figured out some of the bios optimizations and now have OCZ PC-8000 VX2 working at 1:1 on this board with improved timings. :D
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/4...9d9x416bc2.png
this is why i got badaxe, badaxe is a pretty mature board in terms of OCing
i think in 2 months this board should be able to reach 450-ish fsb,
bingo, did you change any other settings besides timings to get the VX2 to work? i cant get teh vx2 or soe pieces to run 1:1.
I'm starting to see fewer & fewer reasons to keep this board over my P5W DH when it arrives. Keep the benchmarks coming guys. They are some very impressive results:)
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/3...nchmarkkv8.jpg
We had to change the SPD to match up with some internal bios timings. I am testing a final SPD release from OCZ currently, will post up results shortly. I also spoke with Abit about the issues tonight so maybe it will be resolved in a new bios quickly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dubz
Nice results with that 1404 bios, hopefully the next spin will work out better for you. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by The Nemesis
Final SPD results for the OCZ PC8000-VX2 modules. This SPD was tuned by Tony tonight. :clap: I still have a lot of testing left to do but so far I can increase the FSB slightly with another lowering in the memory timings.
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/585...d9x418act7.png
what about MAX clocks for the E6600 and how does it compare to the other boards tested
So this board doesn't do the power down and then power up again crap that all Asus boards do right? I would gladly trade a few secs in SuperPi for longevity of my harddrives and other hardwares. Few seconds in SuperPi won't pay for new Raptors or waterpumps. The results look more and more promising. Keep it up guys. Hopefully, Abit will have another bios soon and improve overclockability and performance because once DFI comes out with the RD600, its most likely game over for Abit
why drive in a lada if you can afford a ferrari :), please stay out of this topic with this replys because nobody needs it only your inner self ( lucifer )Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
We all know the ds3, we all know it`s 150 bucks and that it`s like 9 months on the market. Here @ xtreme systems we are xtreme and if 2 seconds of pi makes a difference, it makes a difference. If you don`t get it, xs is not the place for you.
MAX clocks or MAX stable? I work on MAX stable, the high FSB clocks do not matter to me if I cannot use the system for more than a SuperPIfest. ;) I am currently comparing the board to the Asus P5W-DH with the exact same components and drive image. I should have results up by Tuesday. As far as my E6600 is concerned, it has run up to 4.0GHz on air in limited testing. Also, all testing is in a case, on air, full complement of optical and hard drvies, along with using a 7950GX2 for video results and should have X1950CrossFire numbers in the near future once I take the cards out of their boxes. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
Bingo13 here's a quick run @ 419 FSB to compare when you do your P5W DH:)
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/5...nchmarkce7.jpg
i don't care whatever you consider max is good enoughQuote:
Originally Posted by bingo13
i'm asking how this board compares to others you've tested
I still like the Asus P5W-DH by the thinnest of margins over this board performance wise. My mind might change after Abit has had the same amount of time with the bios as Asus. I prefer the layout options better on the Asus board also. I am not ready to give up my PCI slots when using CrosssFire. I think Abit has made great strides recently with the performance and quality of their board releases.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
E6600 at 8x multiplier, not as good as HiPro5 results but I have a stock board. ;) OCZ PC-8000VX2 on this run.
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/999...51combopg3.png
i don't think you understood what i mean
i am talking about max OC MHz stable or benchable comapred between Asus and Abit
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Originally Posted by dinos22
As of me...........Moded ASUS P5WDH-Deluxe and SEMI-Moded ABIT AW9D, I got about 30 - 50MHz more on AW9D-MAX on air.....Haven't tested yet on cascade/LN2....soon......;)
I also would like to add that ABIT "played" my Fadbodies a bit tighter that ASUS or Bad Axe......In 2k5 I got about 80 to 100 points more with ABIT with the EXACT same config as with ASUS/INTEL.......No big deal especially on air BUT when you go for the max, it counts.....Those points will be 200 - 300 on LN2 so as for me it counts.....;)
yeap that's what i was afterQuote:
Originally Posted by hipro5
cheers ;)
So will this board do 450X9 unmodded on air with an E6600? Sorry, the question may have already been answered. But I'm too lazy to read through the entire thread.:D
So long since ABIT made a good motherboard. Can't wait to try this board out. Moding this board will be very exciting for me. :)
At the moment he's not testing the Asus, only the Abit. I'm displaying the Asus so we have an idea how it compares @ similar clocks and standard timings. It also gives a decent comparison for when he does test the Asus tomorrow or late tonight. My board has the 1.85v mch, is unmodded, & installed inside the case with the sidepanel removed. He has both versions of the Asus board, but I believe he's gonna use with the 1.65v mch version. My board won't do 450FSB benchable other than 1 mb Pi. 445 FSB is about my max & 440 is rock stable. I'm gonna grab another one since they are $249 + shipping in hope to reach 450FSB without modifications. Then I'll change the chipset's cooling. Hopefully my Abit board will hit 450FSB right out of the box too, but right now I'm leaning towards the Asus board for my primary gamer due to its layout and features.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
When you say 440 is rock stable, is that 440X8 or 440X9? I'm guessing it's the former.
8 X 440 everything except orthos. 9 multiplier 8mb Pi. Cpu is @ 3960mhz 1.65vcore maxed out in my opinion. I'm still testing though & can provide screenshots of whatever you'd like to see.Quote:
Originally Posted by sierra_bound
The reason I'm asking these questions is because I could do 457X9 on air with an unmodded P5W DH and a 6600ES. Granted, it was only 1M stable. But for me to get interested in the Abit board, it would have to do as good or better.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=105453
I think alot has to do with the cpu because when I was testing a week 28 with my previous board I could reach higher clocks than with this cpu. Unfortunately I sold it before I got this board. The new bioses that are allowing downward multi's will show where these boards FSB's really are. I personally don't believe the Allendale cores put as much stress on the FSB's as the Conroe's, and it seems as thought the ES chips were magic. When my Abit board gets here we'll see, but thus far I'm not seeing 470FSB without making from anyone. Which is why I'm leaning towards sticking with Asus. At least 'til DFI's 600 board.Quote:
Originally Posted by sierra_bound
I think the Abit board looks very promising. And I trust hipro5's findings.:) But one of the criteria I use for judging a board is top speed. I could run my 6600ES at 4.1GHz on both the P5W DH and the P5WDG2-WS Pro. Some of the other boards I tried struggled just to hit 3.95-4.0GHz.
nice ,but any test of Vdroop at 1.65v??THX:clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by The Nemesis
I know many people may find this hard to believe, but voltage droop on Intel boards is there by design. The output voltage decreases as the load current increases. This is normal. You will find this information in Intel's technical documents.
Some people have noticed the Asus workstation boards hardly have any voltage droop. That's mainly because they overvolt. If you look at it another way, the overvolting is just compensating for the droop.
Now, this doesn't mean VDroop is desirable. But don't blame the motherboard makers for the problem, if you want to call it that. Blame Intel. And by the way, Intel uses the term "droop" in its technical papers.
Look.....As we ALL know, it depents in many reasons:Quote:
Originally Posted by sierra_bound
a. On CPU itself if it can handle high fsb.....
b. On chipset 975X how it does......cuz they are like the CPU's......Some do well and some, not....
We may see EVEN 30MHz difference from chipset to chipset......;)
If you ask IF the mobo ITSELF can handle them, YES it can handle them....;)
Some quick updates not to make another post for them.....
Sisoft Sandra Memory Unbuffered....
http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/C...1_1_C3_png.png
CPU-Z Velidation.....
Very nice, hipro5.:toast:
Yes, the CPU definitely makes a difference. But I just want to see some higher clocks on the Abit board. I'm sure you will oblige me.:D
As soon as they give us a bios that unlocks the multies upwards on the X6800's (at least ES's), I'll put it in cascade/LN2....For now, I'm just testing to find mobo's max and benchable frequencies on air so as to see what it will do under cold....;)Quote:
Originally Posted by sierra_bound
Someone please test what it does for 24/7 cuz I'm not interestead about it.....:D
LOL :DQuote:
Originally Posted by hipro5
3.5, 3.6, 3.7GHz doesn't excite me. I don't like those 3's. I want to see 4's and 5's.:D Good luck with your board. I hope you get the bios you want.:)
What kind of voltages for the vcore,chipsets and all that will we be looking at with the AW9D-Max if I'm looking to take a E6700 near 3.4 Ghz? I know this is quite lazy of me, but im curious.
The only way to know the real Vcore is to measure it with a voltmeter.
Where is the measurement point on the aw9d?
18 boards left at the Egg ;)
Ohhhh Baby I bit.
Should I wait and observe you guys or jump the bad wagon? $227 shipped sounds like a steal.
You can do it ! :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by amx
Buy it, I did:D I'm gonna keep which ever of the two I got coming reaches the highest FSB with no mods.Quote:
Originally Posted by amx
Jump on, bandwagon's are alot funner but you'd better be quick about it :DQuote:
Originally Posted by amx
got in! hate you guys!
Those of us that have the boards now are finding out they are very stable and damn good overclockers. A very safe board to go with currently.
man that price wow NICE price that makes it worth buying if they can make it do what they designed it to do..
dang im tempted to drop the ball now but you know when they are all gone new egg will jack the price to $300
Quoted for truth. :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
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Originally Posted by Lestat
so for 300 $ the upgrade is silly / you honestly can't see a reason why someone would switch, and for 215 you are tempted to drop the ball.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
:clap:
Hehe Got it!! Printing out my invoice now. Hell of a deal at 219.00. I sure wanted this board but not at the price ZZF was asking. Also knowing that ZZF was jacking the price up. Happy camper now:D
Bastids! lol no wonder the egg upgraded my shipping to overnight for free on my p5wdh... should of waited, oh well.
you know newegg is gonna jack up the price after they get rid of this initial stock :)
better get in for one!
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Originally Posted by [timko]
yup, Opera simply tells which camera are your pictures from......:cool:
I bit ordered one too :banana: guess the p5wdh will go back to its home in Tennessee, (already on its way here lol).
Best decision I have seen all day. :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDro
Mobo came and gone once again, as Newegg is sold out.
Yes, I'm glad I made the decision as well now... though I was just going to pass on it and stick with the p5w originally. A little longer waiting time, plus spending some $$ shipping the p5w back is still worth it for the aw9dmax. Lack of PCI slots aside, its still better than having a feature I didn't want that kept the usb devices on even when pc is shutoff that the p5w does (got alot of stuff thats lit up like USB hardware lock for CAD, and the usual mouse, keyboard).Quote:
Originally Posted by vowkilmer
Hopefully they don't jack the price. Hey looky what comes with this board, an ATI graphics bridge.
what a dumb reply! :fact:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sentential
Maybe and maybe not... First of all his statement was 4 days ago and early in the thread, up to that point I didn't see anything that impressed... Unless you're an Abit fanboy it's a little premature to get too excited 'bout this board yet... It's been quite awhile since Abit released a "Great Board" so the jury is still out, it's hardy time to attack the naysayers... :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by kenofstephen
It's clear that Fugger and hipro5 can make it dance, let's see what it does in the hands of the less talented or experienced! :)
:hehe:.... back on ABIT agian? Post your result when you got it set up :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
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Originally Posted by Lestat
Eggy might not. This isn't the Abit of old. I'm sure htey know how much other retailers like ZZF and Excaliberpc is selling them for. They could have easily sold it for 30 to 40 dollars more but they might not sell out since they seem to have a relatively big stock. The Abit of old would have commanded 300 dollars, but not these days. Well regardless, I got on the deal right now.
WOW! heh... that's pretty cool... a fun keep-sake if nothing else. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by G H Z
Still got a bad taste in my mouth from the AN8 fiasco. If this board is at the level of the AN8, this will be my last Abit board EVER. BTW, when are you going to work your magic on this board?Quote:
Originally Posted by tictac
Wow.... dual graphic link? What does it use for? Crossfire or SLI the graphics ? :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by G H Z
No matter the skill and ability of the motherboard user, I still thinkQuote:
Originally Posted by pcdoc1
it will be in the company of the best Conroe motherboards available until C55's are released.
Hopefully everyone will start contributing their results in an Official thread. :toast:
Me too. 9:49 PM, Monday night... Just got an email from egg, but no tracking.Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
Hopefully, I got on board before they sold out. I'll know tomorrow.
Maybe Abit knows something that we don't. SLI licensed to Intel? One can only hope :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by tictac
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Originally Posted by derektm
Something to do with this?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=99109
very informative thread, thanks for all your hard work. wish i had some new toy to play with :(
So it is the SLI bridge? There must be a reason they adding it in... :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by derektm
not really, coz on 8th Sept. Gary Key released his review on Anandtech.:fact:Quote:
Originally Posted by pcdoc1
Whoa, an AT review.... That's fine, say good night...Quote:
Originally Posted by kenofstephen
:rofl: yup, i guess AT is the standard review to judge mb's by nowadays:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by pcdoc1
I see in voltage monitoring in bios no V DROP !! I think this board very rock solid.
Asus sends ( at least sent ) SLI bridge with P5WD2 ( non -E ) so its not really a new thing.
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Originally Posted by tictac
Tons of people already run SLI on 975x, its not hard to do at all.
And for the records: My XFX Geforce 7900GX2 runs fine too.
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Originally Posted by situman
mine worked great?
Congratulations, you're one of the few.Quote:
Originally Posted by tvdang7
Not for SLI, it's for CF ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
I finally sourced a few of these today as well. I tell you, getting some of these decent Core 2 Duo mobos has almost been as hard as getting the chips themselves originally :D
My order shipped today from Newegg. They're next eta is September 22nd & they've also upped their price. Go figure:rolleyes: Seems Zipzoomfly has lowered their price to match yesterdays Newegg price.
Mine shipped too about an hour ago, refused shipping on the p5wdh & atx 4pin ext about 45 minutes before the egg said the abit shipped, hopefully they didn't kick around my Abit lol.