Making P5WDH ready for Conroe: An Illustrative Guide

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08-09-2006, 04:53 AM
Shrekogre

I tried the pencil. increased another 0.2-0.3v on the mch. get my mobo from 420 to 450x7 prime stable. i tried clockgen to 470 but not stable.
08-09-2006, 06:53 AM
ruler22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.President

I just called them: "There is no possibility to send a new chip ......"

other people have gotten new BIOS chips from them, so maybe try again with a new person and stress that even though their board says it is compatible with conroe, that it doesnt ship with the BIOS required for that compatibility...
08-09-2006, 08:19 AM
GoldenTiger

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haltech

Send me a link to the file.. ill be more than happy to host it. Ive been hosting a lot of beta bios for gigabyte and msi so far.

I'll be happy to download it once you get it ;)!
08-09-2006, 08:36 AM
ruler22

Oh and about prepping the motherboard, is a computer desk (wood) an anti-static area, i say this because some people said about the outside of the bag being where the static is
08-09-2006, 08:38 AM
berty1425

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.President

I just called them: "There is no possibility to send a new chip ......"

I just called them and they said no problem on sending a newer bios chip! I would have to pay the shipping if I want it tomarrow or wait for 3 to 5 days for it! I chose the ground and got it free!!!! I have to get the mobo tonight and prep it anyways. So I'll wait for it like everything else! Atleast I have my E6700 and mobo in hand! Well tonight I:banana: 'll have the mobo
08-09-2006, 09:46 AM
ruler22

What did they ask when u wanted a new chip? and how much was shipping for the overnight?
I would hate to get my mobo and then have to wait longer for a chip, so i was thinking of calling in and acting like it wont work just so I have a chip when my mobo comes
08-09-2006, 10:59 AM
berty1425

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruler22

What did they ask when u wanted a new chip? and how much was shipping for the overnight?
I would hate to get my mobo and then have to wait longer for a chip, so i was thinking of calling in and acting like it wont work just so I have a chip when my mobo comes

I just said the truth! I'm buying a mobo tonight the p5w dh and was told that they can not see what bios it comes with and I do not have another cpu to flash the bios with to make my E6700 work! So all she did was ask for my address and told me the deal about the overnight. I did not ask the price because I was not interested.
08-09-2006, 11:18 AM
Mr.President

Hm where do you live?

I try it one more time but i´m really angry ... some other users from germany also tried but nobody had a suceede...
08-09-2006, 11:20 AM
ruler22

Well if it doesnt work, your only other option is to either buy/borrow another socket 775 CPU, and then flash the BIOS from there
08-09-2006, 12:42 PM
xgman

new versions of asus pcprobe II and asus aibooster on the ftp here for anyone who uses them:

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/misc/utils/
08-09-2006, 01:52 PM
Prelim

dates on the FTP arent correct...names of the new ones plz :fact:
08-09-2006, 02:33 PM
Supertim0r

is there really a 0801 modded bios with 1.85vmch ?
08-09-2006, 03:12 PM
Grendel66

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prelim

dates on the FTP arent correct...names of the new ones plz :fact:

AIBooster_20301.zip & ProbeII_10302.zip seem to be the latest ones. What a messy server.. :rolleyes:
08-09-2006, 04:40 PM
Crankybugga

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supertim0r

is there really a 0801 modded bios with 1.85vmch ?

Haltech should be hosting it shortly, keep an eye on his response in this thread :)
08-09-2006, 05:21 PM
Haltech

Asus Modded BIOS
08-09-2006, 05:22 PM
m0da

thanks, will update.. now :D
08-09-2006, 05:31 PM
ruler22

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruler22

Oh and about prepping the motherboard, is a computer desk (wood) an anti-static area, i say this because some people said about the outside of the bag being where the static is

anyone know the answer to this?
08-09-2006, 05:39 PM
Crankybugga

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haltech

Asus Modded BIOS

cheers fella

Also it probably doesnt need to be stated but, sufficient cooling to the mch might prevent flames leaping from m/b at 1.85v :D
08-09-2006, 05:41 PM
Crankybugga

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruler22

anyone know the answer to this?

I have also heard/read that static bags can store se on outer side, true or not im not sure.
08-09-2006, 05:56 PM
Tallman

is the vmch change the only thing modded in this bios?

Anyone try it yet?

Also @ Haltech....Do you mind if I share the link to your site with others?
08-09-2006, 08:41 PM
Supertim0r

thanks haltech :toast:
08-09-2006, 08:45 PM
GoldenTiger

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tallman

is the vmch change the only thing modded in this bios?

Anyone try it yet?

Also @ Haltech....Do you mind if I share the link to your site with others?

I wonder too if anyone's tried it yet... I don't have my Conroe yet so I can't even think of doing so, but I'm excited about this BIOS!
08-10-2006, 01:05 AM
hot_fifty

it works here, that bios..
08-10-2006, 01:10 AM
lawrywild

Quote:

Originally Posted by hot_fifty

it works here, that bios..

:eek:

brilliant, now someonemod the latest beta, the 1101 orwhatever it was called.. :)

edit: Oh and cheers Haltech mate, how did you manage to get ahold of that? Any ideas what app they used to mod it? AMIBCP just crashes when I try to open any recent ami bioses with it..
08-10-2006, 01:37 AM
GrossmeisterB

Quote:

Originally Posted by hot_fifty

it works here, that bios..

Did you try 1.85Volt MCH?? If yes, did it work?
08-10-2006, 03:17 AM
M3kk

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrossmeisterB

Did you try 1.85Volt MCH?? If yes, did it work?

Here not works.. Max is 1.65 :(
08-10-2006, 04:01 AM
Hyperformance

Quote:

Originally Posted by M3kk

Here not works.. Max is 1.65 :(

my max is still 1.65 as well.
08-10-2006, 04:11 AM
lawrywild

have you both cleared cmos yet?
08-10-2006, 04:33 AM
M3kk

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrywild

have you both cleared cmos yet?

Yes.. just flashed with afudos, same sh it, max is 1.65 :/
08-10-2006, 05:51 AM
xgman

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrywild

:eek:

brilliant, now someonemod the latest beta, the 1101 orwhatever it was called.. :)

edit: Oh and cheers Haltech mate, how did you manage to get ahold of that? Any ideas what app they used to mod it? AMIBCP just crashes when I try to open any recent ami bioses with it..

yes that would be nice. maybe Bigtoe (Tony) at OCZ could mod it for us. he is very good at that.
08-10-2006, 05:52 AM
xgman

Quote:

Originally Posted by M3kk

Yes.. just flashed with afudos, same sh it, max is 1.65 :/

Do the unplug, remove battery jumper on clr for 30 sec. replug everything , reasave cmos, then check again. :confused:
08-10-2006, 06:09 AM
nop

my max is still at 1.65 also :(
08-10-2006, 07:00 AM
alpha0ne

Quote:

Originally Posted by nop

my max is still at 1.65 also :(

Oh well, now I have the board out I'll do the Vmod too ;)
08-10-2006, 07:47 AM
M3kk

Quote:

Originally Posted by xgman

Do the unplug, remove battery jumper on clr for 30 sec. replug everything , reasave cmos, then check again. :confused:

Done but without any positive result..
08-10-2006, 09:53 AM
VL125

Damn, now its Vmod time ;)
08-10-2006, 10:31 AM
xgman

I am guessing that IF the 1.85v has worked for some, that the voltage controller for the vmch is somehow a different rev hardware version than that on the boards above that still only see 1.65v.
08-10-2006, 10:40 AM
xgman

Quote:

Originally Posted by hot_fifty

it works here, that bios..

What works? You now have Vmch options to 1.85V? can you take a screenshot?
08-10-2006, 12:54 PM
xgman

Quote:

Originally Posted by VL125

Damn, now its Vmod time ;)

From this pic of the pencil mod, I'm not sure where the red line leads to exactly. Anyone know more precisely what points on this pic are suposed to be penciled?

http://resources.vr-zone.com.sg/Sham...whpencil/2.jpg
08-10-2006, 01:10 PM
fornowagain

Quote:

Originally Posted by xgman

From this pic of the pencil mod, I'm not sure where the red line leads to exactly. Anyone know more precisely what points on this pic are suposed to be penciled?

http://resources.vr-zone.com.sg/Sham...whpencil/2.jpg

Its soldered at both ends, you need to make a graphite path from one end (of the solder), across the top to the other bit of solder. And don't blow any graphite dust on the board, not a good idea.
08-11-2006, 10:56 AM
rpg711

when are the voltmods coming
also, to the people that are afraid to hot flash, u can request a bios chip from asus... be sure to include the model and serial number
its free and free ground shipping
if u want next day shipping, include the credit card number
edit: found a pencil mod http://vr-zone.com/index.php?i=3876
edit2: heres a more detailed thing, just fill in the needed stuff and copy to a mail... DONT COPY THE STUFF IN THE **
rma@asus.com
- "The motherboard does not work as advertised without a newer BIOS than what it shipped with. I need a newer BIOS revision to work with my Intel Core 2 Duo processor. I do not have a spare processor to flash the BIOS with. Please send me a new BIOS chip with revision 0801 or newer using the information below. Thanks in advance."*
- name
- street address
- phone number
- model number & serial number
- ground(free) or overnight($20)**

*supposedly 0801 is compatible with ALL Core 2 Duo processors, but if you want the beta revision 0901 (as of 8/9/06), specify that here
**for overnight, give them your credit card info as well (account number, expiration date, and CSV)
08-11-2006, 11:16 AM
over@locker886

Quote:

Originally Posted by fornowagain

Its soldered at both ends, you need to make a graphite path from one end (of the solder), across the top to the other bit of solder. And don't blow any graphite dust on the board, not a good idea.

My pencil mod works well on mch. I used 2B pencil, and up to 1,77v.

Will next vdimm..
08-11-2006, 11:55 AM
unit365

Hello all

anybody know where we can find bios 1101 because i have an X6800 retail B2 and of course on the P5W-dh it doesn't work, not found any links on asus site. Maybe on asus FTP ?
08-11-2006, 11:58 AM
rpg711

rma@asus.com
- "The motherboard does not work as advertised without a newer BIOS than what it shipped with. I need a newer BIOS revision to work with my Intel Core 2 Duo processor. I do not have a spare processor to flash the BIOS with. Please send me a new BIOS chip with revision 0801 or newer using the information below. Thanks in advance."*
- name
- street address
- phone number
- model number & serial number
- ground(free) or overnight($20)**

*supposedly 0801 is compatible with ALL Core 2 Duo processors, but if you want the beta revision 0901 (as of 8/9/06), specify that here
**for overnight, give them your credit card info as well (account number, expiration date, and CSV)

dont copy the asteriks into the email
its safer than hot flashing becuase u dont have the chance of burning ur mobo
08-11-2006, 12:14 PM
unit365

ok found !! on others posts on this forum. thanks
08-12-2006, 12:13 AM
Jimbo

So if I take off this...

http://gallery.weyland.be/d/9803-2/DSC02399.JPG

http://gallery.weyland.be/d/9803-2/DSC02399.JPG

Its not a good idea to take the gunk of it? becuase if you apply AS/thermal gunk it wont fit again?

Can I take it off and apply Arctic Silver 5 to the chip on the NB and re-use thise on the radiator thing?

Im sure when I done the Southbridge it was on firmer and thats why it seems a bit loser? should I apply thicker amounts?

EDIT:

Gonna leave the gunk on the mossfets cos they dont get to hot, but i'll apply thicker amount to the nb/sb heatsinks.. oh and lose those gay covers too.
08-12-2006, 02:43 AM
Jimbo

Well I just done it all and Im very pleased to announce my temps are now 40c motherboard and 29c cpu. Muuuch better than 54c board, thanks for the guide.

Edit:

Oh screw it I spoke to soon, the temp has gone in to the red again with pc probe...
Whats a good temp to set pc probe alarm at for the motherboard temp?

It gets to 45c and goes into the red and gives me warnings.

Its at 51c now... christ I give up.
08-12-2006, 05:52 AM
Jimbo

Can someone tell me what causes the heat, the south or northbridge?

And is that temp a combined reading ie 50c = 25c N and 25c S bridges??
08-12-2006, 07:01 AM
Mykou

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbo

Can someone tell me what causes the heat, the south or northbridge?

And is that temp a combined reading ie 50c = 25c N and 25c S bridges??

Mobo temp is related to southbridge but northbridge is the hottest

You also can replace the stock HS as I did

http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/8096/dscn2262hv1.jpg

:)
08-12-2006, 07:13 AM
linflas

how did you attach you heatsink, I am thinking about clipping the asus cooler, leaving the power cooling part of the system with the included fan and adding a water block to the northbridge, just have not seen a good way to connect it, as I will not be on a bench, but in a case.

So need to hold it down, was thinking of using arctic silver ceramique, the heat epoxy stuff I used on the ram sinks for my video card, any other ideas out there?
08-12-2006, 07:25 AM
Mykou

this NB cooler is chip with retention clips which fit perfectly over the P5w dh NB :)

it is the coolermaster "blue ice" ( didn't want to wait for extreme spirit 2 )
08-12-2006, 07:27 AM
fornowagain

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbo

Can someone tell me what causes the heat, the south or northbridge?

And is that temp a combined reading ie 50c = 25c N and 25c S bridges??

They both get hot only the north MCH is going to hold back any overclock. The temps are reading from the south ICH and not combined. Stick a small 40x10mm fan on both costs about £6. Run them both from the motherboard headers in silent mode you can't hear them and your temps with drop to 30C at 400MHz.
http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/1496/36x12ls4.th.jpg
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/6...8cy5xh7.th.jpg
08-12-2006, 09:06 AM
Jimbo

Any links where I could buy those 40mm fans in the uk? and are those fans sucking or blowing?
08-12-2006, 09:34 AM
fornowagain

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbo

Any links where I could buy those 40mm fans in the uk? and are those fans sucking or blowing?

They have them on the shelves in Maplins or OcUK have them.
08-12-2006, 09:40 AM
Jimbo

Might pop in to maplin, no way im paying ocuk £8 for postage lol.
08-12-2006, 11:29 PM
hot_fifty

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mykou

Mobo temp is related to southbridge but northbridge is the hottest

You also can replace the stock HS as I did

http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/8096/dscn2262hv1.jpg

:)

what about the mosfets besides the cpu socket.. Dont they get hot, without the stock Asus HS
08-12-2006, 11:33 PM
hot_fifty

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mykou

Mobo temp is related to southbridge but northbridge is the hottest

You also can replace the stock HS as I did

http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/8096/dscn2262hv1.jpg

:)

dont the mosfets besides the cpu swocket get hot, with out that stock asus HS
08-12-2006, 11:44 PM
Mykou

no , I let the stock HS for the mofsets .I cut the pipe between to just remove the northbridge HS :)
08-13-2006, 02:09 AM
hot_fifty

ok so you have a problem by RMAing that MB, som e day, maybe.LOL
08-13-2006, 02:28 AM
linflas

And from what has been reported the mosfets seem to be the coolest part of the board, so no need for any type of cooling other than a case fan blowing down on it.

I was planning on doing that as well, until all the reports have come in regarding temps, seems an unnecessay hassle. Will just put vga ram heat sinks on them just in case and call it good.
08-13-2006, 03:11 AM
Mykou

Quote:

Originally Posted by hot_fifty

ok so you have a problem by RMAing that MB, som e day, maybe.LOL

That heatpipes are already crap with that board ( if you put off you 'll undestant what I mean ... ) so RMA would bring me same problem :p:
08-13-2006, 03:40 AM
Durzel

Those black blocks with "7RIO R47" (?) on them get hot as hell though, but I've never felt any heat from the little blocks that the ASUS heatsink covers. Interestingly unlike the Gigabyte board they only cover one half of them, the ones at the top of the motherboard are uncovered.

I think the heatsink on the standard ASUS cooler is just there to act as additional cooling for the NS heatpipe system, not to cool whats actually underneath it (if that makes sense).
08-13-2006, 05:24 AM
Mykou

Quote:

Originally Posted by Durzel

Those black blocks with "7RIO R47" (?) on them get hot as hell though, but I've never felt any heat from the little blocks that the ASUS heatsink covers. Interestingly unlike the Gigabyte board they only cover one half of them, the ones at the top of the motherboard are uncovered.

I think the heatsink on the standard ASUS cooler is just there to act as additional cooling for the NS heatpipe system, not to cool whats actually underneath it (if that makes sense).

That's what I think too ;)
08-13-2006, 08:24 AM
miochza

Quote:

Originally Posted by fornowagain

They both get hot only the north MCH is going to hold back any overclock. The temps are reading from the south ICH and not combined. Stick a small 40x10mm fan on both costs about £6. Run them both from the motherboard headers in silent mode you can't hear them and your temps with drop to 30C at 400MHz.
http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/1496/36x12ls4.th.jpg
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/6...8cy5xh7.th.jpg

How did you mount them on the stock heatsinks, drilling? And where did you buy the small LED fans from?
08-13-2006, 12:04 PM
mion

Quote:

Originally Posted by linflas

And from what has been reported the mosfets seem to be the coolest part of the board, so no need for any type of cooling other than a case fan blowing down on it.

Mofest run pretty cool on this board. I am waiting for 6600 to become avialable but for now I am running 805 and they run cool. The only problem I see is the heatpipe from northbridge heating mofets.

I am planing on putting 4 of these on mobo mofets. There is eight of them but they are really close so one heatsink will fit on two.

http://www.jab-tech.com/xcart/produc...led/d_2736.jpg
08-13-2006, 12:37 PM
fornowagain

Quote:

Originally Posted by miochza

How did you mount them on the stock heatsinks, drilling? And where did you buy the small LED fans from?

Glue gun. Maplins.
08-13-2006, 12:42 PM
fornowagain

Quote:

Originally Posted by Durzel

I think the heatsink on the standard ASUS cooler is just there to act as additional cooling for the NS heatpipe system, not to cool whats actually underneath it (if that makes sense).

Not so sure, why is there thermal tape on the bottom? If it was just moving heat away from the NB, why pass heat into the vregs?
08-13-2006, 12:46 PM
Nosfer@tu

Quote:

Originally Posted by fornowagain

They both get hot only the north MCH is going to hold back any overclock. The temps are reading from the south ICH and not combined. Stick a small 40x10mm fan on both costs about £6. Run them both from the motherboard headers in silent mode you can't hear them and your temps with drop to 30C at 400MHz.
http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/1496/36x12ls4.th.jpg
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/6...8cy5xh7.th.jpg

What is you bios settings?
havent installed but my freind has problems surpassing 387 fsb with the E6600 adn G.Skill 6400 HZ
08-13-2006, 12:53 PM
fornowagain

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nosfer@tu

What is you bios settings?
havent installed but my freind has problems surpassing 387 fsb with the E6600 adn G.Skill 6400 HZ

There's a lot of them. You post your freinds up and I'll tell you the difference to mine;)
08-14-2006, 08:16 AM
Jimbo

Quote:

Originally Posted by fornowagain

They both get hot only the north MCH is going to hold back any overclock. The temps are reading from the south ICH and not combined. Stick a small 40x10mm fan on both costs about £6. Run them both from the motherboard headers in silent mode you can't hear them and your temps with drop to 30C at 400MHz.
http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/1496/36x12ls4.th.jpg
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/6...8cy5xh7.th.jpg

Hello mate,

I have been into maplins tonight and bought those fans. They are pretty good, I have to say and they just screwed right on the heatsinks.

At the mo my temps are @ 42c Thats a drop of around 10c.. Im happy with that. I will post pics shortly. :)
08-14-2006, 08:31 AM
rpg711

put a 65watt peltier and a fan on stock and its good to go ;)
08-14-2006, 08:42 AM
Jimbo

2x 40mm akasa cool Blue chipset cooler / 3 hi-bright blue LED. Here you are...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...cture002-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...Picture004.jpg

:D
08-14-2006, 08:44 AM
Jimbo

Before...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v144/Jimbo68/ever.jpg

After...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...fterfanmod.jpg

Nice. ;)
08-14-2006, 09:09 AM
Mr.X

I also installed two 40mm fans (exactly the same ones as you) on the North and South bridge. My MB temps dropped from 50C to 41C at the momment (32C room temp). It drops even more when it's not so hot outside. When room temp is around 27-28C my MB temps is 38C.

Does anyone know if the Zalman CNPS9500LED fits without problems with the fan on the NB?
08-14-2006, 09:15 AM
rpg711

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.X

I also installed two 40mm fans (exactly the same ones as you) on the North and South bridge. My MB temps dropped from 50C to 41C at the momment (32C room temp). It drops even more when it's not so hot outside. When room temp is around 27-28C my MB temps is 38C.

Does anyone know if the Zalman CNPS9500LED fits without problems with the fan on the NB?

the CNPS9500 is a relatively small cooler, being only about 96mm diameter
it will fit, the cnps9500 is not very big
08-14-2006, 09:19 AM
Mr.X

Quote:

Originally Posted by rpg711

the CNPS9500 is a relatively small cooler, being only about 96mm diameter
it will fit, the cnps9500 is not very big

Yeah, I know it's not very big. I just don't know if the fan will prevent it from fitting correctly since it increases the NB height by 10mm.
08-14-2006, 10:20 AM
Durzel

Quote:

Originally Posted by fornowagain

Not so sure, why is there thermal tape on the bottom? If it was just moving heat away from the NB, why pass heat into the vregs?

Maybe the tape is just to stick it down? :p: I honestly don't know to be honest, but it doesn't really make a lot of sense that one set of vregs has a heatsink on and the other set is completely bare.

The Gigabyte board covers both of them.

Maybe it's just Asus cutting corners.
08-14-2006, 10:53 AM
fornowagain

Quote:

Originally Posted by Durzel

Maybe the tape is just to stick it down? :p: I honestly don't know to be honest, but it doesn't really make a lot of sense that one set of vregs has a heatsink on and the other set is completely bare.

The Gigabyte board covers both of them.

Maybe it's just Asus cutting corners.

Nah, it proper heatsink tape, I've bought it online for graphics cards. Since I stuck some active cooling on the NB that area is cooler than a witch's tit. So its not very important. Just a bit odd.
08-14-2006, 11:52 AM
Durzel

Witch's tit - I like that :D

I plan to remove the ASUS heatpipe system entirely, because I've got a Swiftech MCX159-CU to replace it. Just trying to work out where I need to put the little Swiftech heatsinks that I bought with it... on the vregs? or on the big black blocks (theres 8 of them around the CPU socket).

Thoughts?
08-14-2006, 01:39 PM
rpg711

ur supposed to put them on the vreg mosfets...
there should be 8 mosfets
use thermal adhesive, not that crappy thermal tape that it comes with
i reccomend Arctic Silver ASTA silver adhesive, but the ceramic will do as well, may not get as good temps though
08-14-2006, 02:32 PM
zaina

I would like to thank freecableguy for the excellent guide, altough I still get 50+C on the mobo. Tomorrow my 40x40x10mm coolermaster fan will arrive and I will report back. Cheers! :)
08-14-2006, 03:17 PM
miochza

So are these tiny fans mounted on the chipset heatsinks pushing air into the heatsinks or sucking it up out of it? (I would think the latter)
08-14-2006, 03:20 PM
Mr.X

Quote:

Originally Posted by miochza

So are these tiny fans mounted on the chipset heatsinks pushing air into the heatsinks or sucking it up out of it? (I would think the latter)

The former.
08-14-2006, 03:52 PM
miochza

Good thing I asked the question then, I assumed wrong.
08-14-2006, 04:05 PM
fornowagain

Quote:

Originally Posted by Durzel

I plan to remove the ASUS heatpipe system entirely, because I've got a Swiftech MCX159-CU to replace it. Just trying to work out where I need to put the little Swiftech heatsinks that I bought with it... on the vregs? or on the big black blocks (theres 8 of them around the CPU socket).

Thoughts?

Its just dawned on me what you meant, other set??

The 8 little chips under the copper heatsink are the final stage mosfets, voltage regulators.:slap:

They need some form of cooling, the black blocks are solid capacitors.

Excuse the crappy drawing, but I couldn't be asked.

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/3...4mb4jz3.th.jpg

Oh and you can get Sekisui #5760 thermal adhesive tape on ebay for a few quid and it's about as good as your going to get for tape.
08-14-2006, 10:03 PM
zpert

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbo

Before...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v144/Jimbo68/ever.jpg

After...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...fterfanmod.jpg

Nice. ;)

Jimbo, what did u all do to it? Did u just take the NB and SB heatsinks off and replace the thermal compound on them with Arctic Silver 5??

MyKou, if I don't replace the heatsink on the NB like you did with the coolermaster blue ice will my temps still be ok? Or Jimbo, did u get the blue ice?

I just want to make sure I'm not going to hurt my mobo without getting a separate heatsink for my NB or SB. Do you guys think I need to? I'm getting my mobo tomorrow, and I don't have a lot of time to build the system, just a couple days before I move, so I'm hurrying. Is it something that can wait or even skip, or is replacing the NB heatsink a must? Thanks guys!
-Paul
08-15-2006, 12:59 AM
Mykou

Quote:

Originally Posted by zpert

Jimbo, what did u all do to it? Did u just take the NB and SB heatsinks off and replace the thermal compound on them with Arctic Silver 5??

MyKou, if I don't replace the heatsink on the NB like you did with the coolermaster blue ice will my temps still be ok? Or Jimbo, did u get the blue ice?

I just want to make sure I'm not going to hurt my mobo without getting a separate heatsink for my NB or SB. Do you guys think I need to? I'm getting my mobo tomorrow, and I don't have a lot of time to build the system, just a couple days before I move, so I'm hurrying. Is it something that can wait or even skip, or is replacing the NB heatsink a must? Thanks guys!
-Paul

I think you can manage like Jimbo and be safe too if not pushing hard your fsb . I also changed HS for southbridge and put a Zalman ZA NB32 (it has a 60 mm fan on it ) so my mobob temp idle is now 37° ( I expect less with AS5 applied few days ago cos cpu temp lower now at 37° :banana: :banana: running 3.5ghz 24/7 , I lapped my chip too )

I personally didn't like asus heatpipe so it 'up to you , blue ice is all the way better cooler than stock :)

I'm very satisfying like that for an all air cooling rig
08-15-2006, 01:43 AM
Durzel

Quote:

Originally Posted by rpg711

ur supposed to put them on the vreg mosfets...
there should be 8 mosfets
use thermal adhesive, not that crappy thermal tape that it comes with
i reccomend Arctic Silver ASTA silver adhesive, but the ceramic will do as well, may not get as good temps though

Quote:

Originally Posted by fornowagain

Its just dawned on me what you meant, other set??

The 8 little chips under the copper heatsink are the final stage mosfets, voltage regulators.:slap:

They need some form of cooling, the black blocks are solid capacitors.

Excuse the crappy drawing, but I couldn't be asked.

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/3...4mb4jz3.th.jpg

Oh and you can get Sekisui #5760 thermal adhesive tape on ebay for a few quid and it's about as good as your going to get for tape.

Ok now I'm even more confused..

The 8 big black blocks (capacitors?) around the socket get very hot, do they need any kind of cooling? As for the ones the stock ASUS heatpipe covers - they don't seem to get hot, certainly the ones at the top of the motherboard (the ones the Gigabyte solution covers, but ASUS one does not) do not seem to get hot.

The capacitors - if that's what they are - are pretty hot to the touch.

If I'm replacing the NB heatsink with a Swiftech MCX-159-CU - what should I be cooling around the socket? I don't really want to cut off the heatpipe unless I can get a replacement easily enough because of warranty issues.
08-15-2006, 01:50 AM
Mykou

Durzel , You can refer to FCG'post related to mofsets

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...3&postcount=47
08-15-2006, 02:02 AM
Durzel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mykou

Durzel , You can refer to FCG'post related to mofsets

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...3&postcount=47

Thanks Mykou, that's what I thought... that basically the heatsink on the vreg MOSFETs (whatever the stock ASUS one covers) is really just there to act as more surface area to remove heat from the NB cooler.

Is it a waste of time me putting heatsinks on the black blocks? (shown in red below)

http://www.superficial.net/miscstuff/p5wdh_cool.jpg
08-15-2006, 02:49 AM
Mykou

hmm don't know .. I have with the TR ultra 120 a paspt 120 mm fan blowing out to psu so I imagine it refresh this area and I have a second case fan 120 mm located near the mofsets
I only let the mofsets HS in place , just had cut the pipe to remove the NB heatsink
08-15-2006, 06:02 AM
Mr.Kakarot

Great post, do you have it in a word format... or something, I can print easier? I copy and pasted in word, then printed... but only some of the pics came out, and they are small. Sorry if this is a noob question! But i have this mobo, and the X6800, gonna try it out thurs!

thx

kakarot@theedge.ca
08-15-2006, 10:09 AM
rpg711

Quote:

Originally Posted by Durzel

Thanks Mykou, that's what I thought... that basically the heatsink on the vreg MOSFETs (whatever the stock ASUS one covers) is really just there to act as more surface area to remove heat from the NB cooler.

Is it a waste of time me putting heatsinks on the black blocks? (shown in red below)

http://www.superficial.net/miscstuff/p5wdh_cool.jpg

i would replace the stock with a zalman passive nb cooler zmnbf47
and buy two heatsinks from a computer surplus store and use a drivel (i think thats what the rotating thing on a stick is called) or a saw to saw some sinks for the mosfets... u can use arctic ceramic thermal adhesive if ur afraid the thing will short out and glue the 8 sinks u made to the mosfets... if u are getting high overclocks, that is what u will need to do... and just to make the comp more stable
its a big waste of time to put heatsinks on caps... caps shouldnt even be getting hot, unless too much curant is going through them and that is bad, once caps are damaged, there is a 100% chance for them to blow, and thats not pretty
08-15-2006, 10:30 AM
Jimbo

Quote:

Originally Posted by zpert

Jimbo, what did u all do to it? Did u just take the NB and SB heatsinks off and replace the thermal compound on them with Arctic Silver 5??
-Paul

Hi Zpert,

I just did what was in the guide ie I took off the heatsinks used AS 5 and took off the covers (the ones that said Asus/digital home)

And went to my local store - Maplins and bought 2 40mm fans and they screwed right on. Connected them to PWR fan1 and PWR fan2 headers and bobs your uncle.

Simple really, but effective. :)

these are the fans...

AK 160 BL-S Cool Blue Fan

http://www.akasa.co.uk/

http://www.thecoolingshop.com/produc...oducts_id/1372

http://www.overclock.co.uk/product.php?productid=18502

They come already screwed into a heatsink, you just unscrew em and put them on the Asus.
08-15-2006, 10:32 AM
pen1234567

Quote:

Originally Posted by rpg711

i would replace the stock with a zalman passive nb cooler zmnbf47
and buy two heatsinks from a computer surplus store and use a drivel (i think thats what the rotating thing on a stick is called) or a saw to saw some sinks for the mosfets...

I think you mean dremel.... :slap: :D
08-15-2006, 10:37 AM
rpg711

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbo

Hi Zpert,

I just did what was in the guide ie I took off the heatsinks used AS 5 and took off the covers (the ones that said Asus/digital home)

And went to my local store - Maplins and bought 2 40mm fans and they screwed right on. Connected them to PWR fan1 and PWR fan2 headers and bobs your uncle.

Simple really, but effective. :)

these are the fans...

AK 160 BL-S Cool Blue Fan

http://www.akasa.co.uk/

http://www.thecoolingshop.com/produc...oducts_id/1372

http://www.overclock.co.uk/product.php?productid=18502

They come already screwed into a heatsink, you just unscrew em and put them on the Asus.

what about a US site?
also, a delta 40mm 15cfm fan
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/delfub.html
08-15-2006, 10:46 AM
Jimbo

Not sure where to buy in the US although these guys have a nice selection of 40mm fans...

http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/50milfan.html
08-15-2006, 10:11 PM
^turkish

Will the bios hotflashing work with my old P4P800 Deluxe? He recommended current generation, but will it still work with one slightly older? And I assume it needs to be an Asus board at least, since doing it with my already hooked-up Abit AI7 would just be far too convenient of course.
08-16-2006, 02:31 AM
Primoz78

I have the Thermaltake Extreme spirit 2 at home and I was just wondering if anyobody tested it on the P5W DH yet? I have now temperatures about 20-43°C with stock cooler under load...So the chips under the heatsink on the top of the board near the CPU slot don`t need to be cooled or...?

https://www.cool-pc.org/shopimages/t...mespirit2a.jpg

Regards,
Primoz
08-16-2006, 03:38 AM
EpaL

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.X

Yeah, I know it's not very big. I just don't know if the fan will prevent it from fitting correctly since it increases the NB height by 10mm.

Incase nobody has answered your question, I just installed (ok, glued) a couple of 40mm fans to my NB and SB and I have a Zalman 9500AT cooler. No problem with clearance - at least 10-20mm between the blades of the Zalman and the fan on top of the NB+Fan.

Now I just need to figure out how to slow these little suckas down. Plugged straight into the mobo they're doing 11,000rpm! Not exactly quiet. :cool: I was hoping i could control off the mobo but they dont appear to support PWM.

Does anyone else have this problem?
08-16-2006, 06:42 AM
kenc3dan

This guide really works. :eek:
I lowered my idle temp by 4C and my load temp by about 6C. This seems to be what was giving me slight Primt95 stability problems around 3GHz. Now I stress test (dual Prime95) for hours at 3GHz. Time to push my luck a little more. Does it make sense that going from 46C to 40C on the NB (or is it SB?) would improve stability so much?

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