Conroe 2.4Ghz on 965G mobo, brief test...

VictorWang, can you run Comanche 4 Demo Benchmark ?
This is an excellent benchmark for CPU and Memory.

Download : http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/57

Thanks.

awesome results looking forward to your am2 results

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Originally Posted by arisythila

Im personally not Anti-intel, or anti conroe. What I hate is when people say stupid stuff, "Intel is going to kick AMD's ass", "AMD is screwed", "Wowie. Conroe owns AMD"

Technically Conroe is not even released. From what we've seen conroe rocks yes. But who knows whats going to happen in 6 months when its released? Alot can happen.. We didnt know Intel was doing Conroe until about 1-2 months ago.. Maybe AMD is doing the same... hit us with a sneak attack. Who knows tho. Right now, AMD owns Intel. In 6 months when the Conroe comes out, lets see who owns who.

~Mike

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Agreed.

My opinion of Conroe based on what I have seen so far is that it will most likely be the fastest chip you can buy when its released. What AMD, and indeed Intel, or whoever releases 6 months further down the line is irrelevant.

If Conroe is the fastest thing around when its released, as it looks like it probably will be - even with AM2 on the horizon, then it will be the chip to have. It doesn't matter to me whether Intel manufactures it, or AMD, or anyone else.

Well now... no yonah for me then. Will play with my Opty144 meanwhile. Conroe is gonna 0wn all

How can you say it's irrelevant what they will release? We can see the next generation of Intel is superior to the current AMD generation, what we need to note is that everything is in "beta" stage also and we don't know how AM2 "preview" rigs will perform. What we can say is that this can only get better from Intels side and wait for AM2 results to do a real compare. But it's not irrelevant since you form a opinion when you see the pre-samples. And no right now Intel Conroe owns AMD since Conroe performs better, if AMD releases a better chip they will be owning. It's probably just a matter of how you see on things since we all are different we might think stuff are relevant and irrelevant. Now lets just enjoy this and stop flamewar AMD vs. Intel and see how the Conroe performs and then AM2.

subscribed;and glad your sharing this with all of us victor!

The only problem is, if AMD guys get their unheard-of-wonder just a little late, it will have to combat quad cores from Intel..

No stoppin' on this rollercoaster.

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Originally Posted by FUGGER

Send the Presler out in style if all goes well.

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Bleed it slowly. Then a quick death

Hi all,
new here and subcribed.
Thank you very much for victor for sharing the info :)
Great job :clap: :clap:

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Originally Posted by mzs_biteme

Well, Intel's got it's "apples" (read Conroes) now, and we've known of them for at least 2yrs (unlike 1~2 months you stated in your earlier post) link> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/03..._4mb_l2_64bit/
So AMD has had at least two years to get ready for Conroe, but to this date they have released (or leeked) nothing (!!!) concerning their "Conroe-killer" CPU :stick: .
And we all know AM2 ain't it....:nono:

Mike S.

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Does AMD every leak anything? Maybe. Sometimes. I know AMD has just been sitting on thier ass for 2 years. no way.

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Originally Posted by vitaminc

AM2 is merely a new platform for AMD to build its future 65nm CPUs that's so far down the road. We are talking a full three quarters before you see any 65nm CPU in the channel.

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Actually they make sample until they get it right, there is no way to test the CPU's and add optimizations to the CPU's until you make a "engineering sample" Engineering samples have stopped for the AM2 line, and they are starting to finalize it for release.

I had custom laser cut plexi fan holes with a pair of 120mm fans blowing on my ram , video card and if I wasn't water cooled on a heatsink.

just because he had the slow rpm fan on the zalman off doesn't mean the heatsink wasn't getting air flow.


Still like to see some benches other than SuperPi and Thanks for your input so far Victor.

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Originally Posted by vitaminc

That's really pathetic of you being a hardcore fanboi.

Truth is, Conroe is using very similar marchitecture to K8

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BAHAHAHAHA!
Ignorant, please leave the internet. Now.

Conroe has a modified GTK+ fsb architecture, shared 4mb cache, four-issue per clock cycle, 14 stage pipeline, 65nm. Oh! and it has 128 bit SSE registers.
Whereas K8 has a three issue clock cycle, MOESI bus architecture, 64bit SSE registers

Go here: http://www.intel.com/technology/arch...icro/index.htm
Click on the "View flash video", easier to understand for numbskulls like you.

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Originally Posted by arisythila

Does AMD every leak anything? Maybe. Sometimes. I know AMD has just been sitting on thier ass for 2 years. no way.

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are you sure:slapass: :p: :)

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Originally Posted by Copycat

BAHAHAHAHA!
Ignorant, please leave the internet. Now.

Conroe has a modified GTK+ fsb architecture, shared 4mb cache, four-issue per clock cycle, 14 stage pipeline, 65nm. Oh! and it has 128 bit SSE registers.
Whereas K8 has a three issue clock cycle, MOESI bus architecture, 64bit SSE registers

Go here: http://www.intel.com/technology/arch...icro/index.htm
Click on the "View flash video", easier to understand for numbskulls like you.

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I think things are going too far in this thread to keep the ban stick untouched. Well that's me, and I'm not being here so long. But from what I've read this months, I clearly see this is not what XS wants in the forums.

funny how the :banana::banana::banana::banana: stirrers have half a dozen posts between them ........maybe IP addresses should start getting bans

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Originally Posted by s7e9h3n

Get ready to be warned or banned NOOB.....And by the way, 65nm is already here for AMD:rolleyes:

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what the deuce do you mean by that? what "here"? AMDs 0.65nm is slated for Q1'07.

XS AMD 0.65nm isn't "here". "Here" is stores. Right?

And the 4-5 reviews i've seen of AM2 on the net, hasn't got me any exited. Not that much better performancewise than S939. Of course, it's more "future proof".

I think this has gone far enough now.

Leave the useless AMD vs Intel debates out of this topic. All what is resulted was starting a flame war. This is the Intel section anyway, so if you wanna talk about AMD stuff, you do that in the appropriate section, but not here.

The staff also notice the lack of respect towards several X.I.P.'s here lately.
The deserved their title over a longer period of time because of their huge positive contribution towards the community. They deserve the respect we all owe them, so let's give it to them instead of insulting them.

I hope this is the last time one of the staff members needs to step in in this topic.
Any more insults of flame wars will result in a 3-day ban.
I hope this is clear for everyone.

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Originally Posted by arisythila

Actually they make sample until they get it right, there is no way to test the CPU's and add optimizations to the CPU's until you make a "engineering sample" Engineering samples have stopped for the AM2 line, and they are starting to finalize it for release.

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Then you should have your access blocked for bringing up AMD as well. He was right. No one's brought up AMD more than you.

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Originally Posted by vitaminc
AM2 is merely a new platform for AMD to build its future 65nm CPUs that's so far down the road. We are talking a full three quarters before you see any 65nm CPU in the channel.

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Surely you guys aren't saying that's not the case, right? It's almost worth a good laugh that bad positive info is passible while good negative info is a no-no when it comes to AMD.

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Conroe has a modified GTK+ fsb architecture

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I bet he meant GTL+ and that's not quite the case either.

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Originally Posted by Victor

the system passed all the benchs in about 1hour
everest told the cpu temp=27c idle, 35c load

then I can tell why my conroe E6600 don't need a fan but just a Heatsink for cooling.
1.18v core is much lower then Yonah's 1.45v

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The best hope to keep the playingfield somewhat level is that nVidia will keep blocking SLI performance on Intel rigs. Then that ATI's never gets better.

There's really not a damned thing to argue about when it comes to Conroe, it's Faster, Cooler, uses less power and most importantly will cost less=P I hope my access is not blocked for pointing that out.

"Truth is, Conroe is using very similar marchitecture to K8 "

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Originally Posted by Copycat

BAHAHAHAHA!
Ignorant, please leave the internet. Now.

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Bahahaha well said!

So can we have some 01's??? :P (sorry for the persistance)

If only Intel would set asside their pride and use Hypertransport in their platforms... A free performance upgrade of as much as 30%.

FSB is a hopeless outdated technology and cannot give the performance and bandwidth needed, only with outrages clock speeds which require a lot of cooling on the northbridge.

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Originally Posted by Thorry

If only Intel would set asside their pride and use Hypertransport in their platforms... A free performance upgrade of as much as 30%.

FSB is a hopeless outdated technology and cannot give the performance and bandwidth needed, only with outrages clock speeds which require a lot of cooling on the northbridge.

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How do you then explain the "Core" micro-arch? It uses FSB, and it sure as hell doesn't need 'outrageously' high clock speeds to crush AMD 64s with hypertransport and at higher clocks.

Hypertransport isn't free, and does take some time to implement.

Edit: And i seem to remember that Intel is working on their hypertransport (CSI) for future processors. (servers first -where it's needed the most)

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Originally Posted by Thorry

If only Intel would set asside their pride and use Hypertransport in their platforms... A free performance upgrade of as much as 30%.

FSB is a hopeless outdated technology and cannot give the performance and bandwidth needed, only with outrages clock speeds which require a lot of cooling on the northbridge.

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The FSB is comparable to the HT (well not really the HT - moreso the onboard MCH) in performance. In single cored, it's probably better, but in say a PDEE, you notice the bandwidth limitations. But naturally in dual core dual Xeon setups it'll prob fall behind.

And besides, AMD's onboard MCH is full of troubles. 2T at >16 chips per controller, Cold bug, etc

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Originally Posted by Salvador

How do you then explain the "Core" micro-arch? It uses FSB, and it sure as hell doesn't need 'outrageously' high clock speeds to crush AMD 64s with hypertransport and at higher clocks.

Hypertransport isn't free, and does take some time to implement.

Edit: And i seem to remember that Intel is working on their hypertransport (CSI) for future processors. (servers first -where it's needed the most)

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Yeah, do a search of AMD investigating using a Co-Processor LOL! They're looking at using a chip just for Hypertransport. I too wish Intel would update the FSB completely. Then move the Hub architecture to a Switch Arch while they're at it. The DMI link already shows it can be done. It is very fast, stable and Point to Point.

Conroe will get the ICH8 version.

Signed up a few days ago but only able to post now.

This is great news. I don't care how Intel have done it - architecture smarchitecture.
This CPU looks to be leaps and bounds ahead of anything else. I just hope they don't bump up the price of the CPU and mobos when they realise that almost everyone is going to want one.

By the way, great work VictorWang. Your input is thoroughly appreciated by me and the rest of the community and I look forward to any of your future reviews as well as other contributors.