All are equally important, if you have a weak link in the chain you wont get too far.
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All are equally important, if you have a weak link in the chain you wont get too far.
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xenolith, your right, I never considered the PSU because mine has never failed me for 6 YEARS :)
But I still stand by the MB being the most important, prolly cause mine is a peice of junk heh :)
This is true, however, would you rather pull a bad stick of ram, a viddy card, or remove the whole system? oh wait, I have to replace my MB but now all the other outdated components won't work with this newer crap! ARGGHHH! here I go again! :) [throws monitor out window]Quote:
All are equally important, if you have a weak link in the chain you wont get too far.
I posted about the caps issue @ Sapphire forums, guess what? that forum no longer exists, just hours after my post! Sapphire changed the whole damn layout, new forum with, you guessed it 0 members and no posts! I guess I'm prolly member #3 and I'm going right back there to repost the message (in case they forget to include it in ther back up) ;) Now you have to enter your language preferance to get to thier site.
Coincidence? me thinks not...heres the new Pure Specifications page.
http://www.sapphiretech.com/en/produ...s.php?gpid=117
Heres the forum Addy: http://70.84.187.178/en/forums/index.php?
Doesn't look like we can post there yet :(
Edit: Here's a quote from the header for the motherboard section of the forum.
They think they can win our hearts and minds on aesthetics alone?Quote:
Is your Rig running on a Sapphire mainboard? Want to discuss the latest and greatest from ATi's IGP series? Pop in here and learn about Sapphire's plans to win over the mainboard performance enthusiasts.
I call BS :stick:
WTH is Pure Crossfire II? and Pure element and pure performance?
how many boards exactly are they releasing? :stick:
Now i really don't know which board to get :( :slobber:
I hope they were just jerking our chain with the caps issue...
EDIT: MaxT, you forgot to mention the name and version of # '10' :)
EDIT#2: And heat dissapation #'s please :D
EDIT#3: If anyone is interested in what I posted over at the old forum I saved a copy of it and posted it @ Elite Bastards
Well, the item # 10 is self-explanatory. ;) It's a dual-core "server" type model , running very hot, overclocked to multitask faster, performing cooking and cleaning actions at the speed of light. :toast: :woot:
:rofl:Hopefully you weren't sucked in by the hype, and she runs as well as advertised?
Forgive me for the pic size but let's take a look at THOSE CAPACITORS !
Anyone capable of confirming the brand/model of them just from the pic ?
http://70.84.187.178/en/productfiles/117image3.jpg
I can properly Identify about 1/3 of them as good Japanese caps.. but the rest I can't tell..
im going to say that the caps issue is blown out of proportion, its been said by grayskull and bigtoe now that a bios issue has been blowing the caps, not the caps themselves.
good caps don't get blown by bios....
at this point of the game, shouldnt it worry you that the bios (if its true) kills mobo and cpus?Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
Well that pic, although it's high rez has a bit of a :banana::banana::banana::banana:o focus method (vasaline on the lens and soft light)
to me it looks like:
*Teapo's on the power managment area (the big green ones).
*Nichicons by the dims (the big silver ones) and i believe the small black ones too in various spots on the board.
*the short purple ones are sanyo's.
:mad: Can't say I'm enthused to see those Teapo's as i can look over at my 8rda+ and see same brand very similar caps blown at this second, but to be fair this was reported to be just a bad batch of caps that affected alot of differnet boards from nf2 era. That said that's the one that blew up in the xbit review.The 8rda+ is running still actually needs to be put on it's side to do so now though it'll die soon enough at least mine leaked out a bit after a year not in my burn in.
I was really hoping this would be a feature equivilent upgrade for me with the board not able to output ac3 the price premium is much less justified to me, I'll still have to buy a sound card, I don't think the dfi uses the propper realtec chip either. But i guess we won't se any boards that unlock multi's oh well not a big deal this time around. With the whole big push for pcs to be the center of the entertainment system I did not think that this was going to be a big issue, it's just one tiny friggin chip, probably means they don't have to pay dolby lisence though.
Sapphire i have to say it looks like you "missed it by that much" i do appreciate you made it so i can look in on the retail boards and see if there are teapos for me to poop on.
:stick: So Bigtoe any idea when we might even hear some more word on this last player? Does it's name start with an a and end with a ummm bit? With their radeon cards thats just a random guess i'll shoot out.
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Originally Posted by Revv23
Uh?! no he didn't, he said that the reason they (Xbit-labs) didn't think there were any temp monitoring was due to the BIOS. The cheapo caps are what killed the board and the CPU. And yes they do get out of proportion when they blow :fact:
Looking at the caps on the latest Sapphire boards and my reference here they are different, whether they are el cheapo i have no idea.
I know the caps on the reference board are of the highest quality as I spec'd them to ATI last year as a must use. what Sapphire have done i have no idea :confused:
Screwed it up by cutting corners, that's what.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtoe
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I have a feeling you are right, maybe we need to lobby Sapphire to come post over here and explain what they are doing with the board.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master_G
I tried posting some less than favourable info at Sapphires forum, with less than favourable results....they nuked the site :(
Edit: One forum member that I was talking to claimed "Sappire didn't even know the forum existed". I tend to believe him as his post count exceeded 2000. I don't know how we could effectivley lobby them. :slap:
Pure Inovation seems to have turned to Pure Incompetence :(
Edit#2 Here's an interesting read.*apparently not eh?Quote:
Possibly reformed
Teapo — Teapo has denied these claims, *but evidence suggests their new capacitors are sound*. However their older ones appear to suffer from the same problems other brands do.
I do feel bad for all the effort ATI's team has put into this design only to have a board partner crap all over it in the name of profit.
Theres an old saying, 'if ya want something done right.....
:banana::banana::banana::banana: profit and cheap, I want it to overclock like a son of a :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:...
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Originally Posted by bigtoe
Uh...what's there to explain? Why they butchered the board? We know "why". Only way this board will fly is if it's less than $125 US retail. There is no real features her to make ANYONE wanna spend more than that on this board, and that price will get you decent Nforce4 board, and 30 more will get you SLi. :fact:
Abit AN8 SLI for under 120 I believe.
drop good features not good caps....
assuming Sapphire pre-tested the boards and sent cherry picked boards over, it would be even worse. Dead cherry pick boards. Imagine how the non-cherry picked boards would perform!
Great and I wanted the Sapphire board
months of hype all ruined by a few cheap caps. some things can be overlooked, but quality isn't one of them.